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it freaks me out when ppl who have mommy or daddy issues are attracted to older people (from what I see irl too) makes me think their looking for that parental love in those ppl but they just dont know it or maybe im wrong who knows

Yupp called opedipus complex men tend to look for women that resemble their mothers or can replace them in. Sense but well i dont think thts happening here tho

You gotta admit there’s some clear projection in this case. As a woman going through divorce and him clearly having a lot of trauma around both his mother and divorce I think it’s a big reason for his interest in her. Not necessarily saying it’s an Oedipus complex but there’s not way the two women/situations aren’t linked in his mind. I think he’s subconsciously trying to work through some of his issues/trauma with this woman and because she’s not family and is attractive it ads a layer or intrigue for a young straight boy and makes sense those feelings would also conflict if he’s seeking closure/closeness/affection through this women that’s paralleling his mother

wait so is opedipus complex is an only men thing? like is their a thing for women too?

Mostly seen in men more than women its like when sons get jealous of their dads n resent the same sex parent
Girls dont really get jealous of their mom usually? Idk not an expert just watched sm documentaries on it

ok so I searched that term up, its when men are attracted to their mothers, either sexually or something else etc, I was just wondering if their is one for women, with their dads too. since I see that girls with daddy issues tend to be attracted to older men, I was wondering if there was something like that too but with women instead. but I guessed its not talked about or no one has done enough research on women too? who knows? lol this convo is interesting

The Oedipus complex can be applied to either gender. It's a theory by Sigmund Freud and the name comes from the Greek story of Oedipus who killed his father and married his mother. Carl Jung has a similar theory, the Electra complex, specifically about girls and their attachment to their father and resentment of their mother.

I read in an article smwhere tho tht electra complex is less common than ooedipus complex

If you’re curious to see mommy issues/oedipus complex in action look up the show from tlc “I love a mommas boy”. It’s extremely disturbing. Completely different from what going on in this manga but it highlights the effects of emotional abuse by mothers to their sons which isn’t something we see or talk about very much in popular culture outside of horror films like psycho.

lmao i think you’re blaming the wrong person here. Rather than blaming her for their stupid actions why not blame the men that did these things such as touching her inappropriately, also she wouldn’t have had to live on the streets if her stupid ex husband hadn’t cheated on her in the first place.

I’m blaming the writer. I’m not seriously blaming her. I’m sick of these unrealistic fake strong women! It’s not strength to be so stubborn you hurt yourself. She should have been an adult and taken part of their money as an equal partner and gotten herself a place if she didn’t want to live in her old house. She’s acting like a kid. And no woman is this dumb.

Also I’ve made a million comments in this comment section talking shit on all the men so I didn’t feel like repeating myself in this one. Yes they’re abusive, and sexual harassers. They’re trash. They’re lower than trash. But she’s also written to be a naive idiot. I’ve already talked about it in past comments but she’s literally a misogynistic stereotype of a woman that is popular in Japan— make her fake strong but an airhead because character designers in Japan have openly said that to balance that out in a woman they have to make her an airhead to make her feminine and to appeal to fans. They literally think being naive and an airhead is a cute inherently feminine trait. Go look up videos about Nintendo designing their little assistant dog Isabelle. Look at haruhi from ohshc. They’re supposed to be capable women but they sprinkle in their misogynistic ideas of woman hood into the characters. I’m sick of it

I mean that still doesnt mean hayame isnt being stupid.
Of course the men are horrible in this manga (except for Yoshitora, he is a national treasure) but lets not ignore her stupidity

It’s their fake progressive woman archetype lmao. I’m so sick of falling prey to it. I loved haruhi and ohsch but looking back the show was extremely misogynistic, homophobic, literally called lesbians predatory and portrayed the all girls school characters as LITERAL feminazis (had a shot of them doing the salute and wearing nazi uniforms) etc. I’m sick of these fake progressive characters and fake progressive storylines. They’re just reinforcing the same old gendered stereotypes in new ways.

I hate this part of Japanese culture, like they have so many cool things but under that are really ugly things like the misogyny, toxic expections and other horrible bullshit.

I really hate these parts of asian culture in general (im from asia myself) and i hope that next generations can erase all the toxic stuff.

They really did haruhi dirty and im so sad about it ╥﹏╥

yoo i meant to like this. you have a very valid point. The FL has a powerful personality with alot of potential but she falls victim to the bad writing/plot.

1. I’m not sure if this is the same in JP, but especially if you don‘t work and divorce occurs, you are legally entitled to a percentage of your ex-partner’s income. What does she do instead? Walk out without demanding reimbursement. Her exhusband was clearly feeling guilty as well. SHE COULD HAVE HAD MONEY TRANSFERRED TO HER PERSONAL ACCOUNT. WHY IS SHE CARRYING PHYSICAL MONEY ONLY?

2. Her personality does a 180 for some scenes to drive the plot. Contrast the time she physically subdued the ML when she was homeless to a her running around stupidly with her curry rice while the ML tries to chase her. Clearly a better route to go about her situation. (but since she needs to get in a contract with the ML shes going to become a victim of the plot...)

Hard agree on this! I honestly don‘t understand why OHSHC is hailed as “feminist” when there‘s literally an episode where Haruhi gets punished by the characters and plot for standing up for women being harassed and trying to do the right/heroic thing. Apparently, since she’s a “girl”, she shouldn‘t have tried to help other women who were getting harassed?? what?? and then it gets passed off as cute and romantic...

Anyway, that episode really put a sour taste in my mouth. JJK is probably the one anime/manga that subverts the whole “lets make this capable woman an airhead to make her more likeable”. honestly... there isnt a lot.

Agree agree agree. And yes, she’s so flimsily written. She changes for whatever suits the narrative so she has no concrete values or personality. Or rather, her “bad ass” side is slowly being unraveled to have meant nothing more than that she can throw a punch or flip a man over her shoulder. At the end of the day she hasn’t treated herself with respect and has demanded respect from and of the men taking advantage of her! Get what you’re owed girl!

I think the fact that ohshc was ever hailed as feminist says a lot about society. That was they “type of feminism” institutions tried to appeal to women...feminism that isn’t really feminism. And the characters that were literally feminists were made into negative stereotypes to send the message to young girls “don’t be like this! Look how awful these lobelia girls are! Nobody likes them, lesbianism bad, feminism=man hating”. And YES. The episode you’re talking about straight up ruined it for everyone. Somebody in YouTube recently did a video essay on it and all the comments are girls and women saying the same things, that the episode was terrible and hurtful and that they had to pretend it didn’t happen. I haven’t given jjk a chance yet but from what I’ve seen I thought it might treat its female cast better. Of course though, the best and least problematic shounen are the ones written by women like FMA and ive heard good things about kimetsu (?) no yaiba (Idk if I said it right) and even they fall prey to the authors internalized misogyny at times or the misogyny of the directors adapting the anime versions. Japan offers us narratives we can’t find elsewhere, but every genre is still filled with misogyny that holds all of its works back from being truly great.

yup thats why i always say straight dudes are creeps lol
but on a serious note i mean what we've read up till now, she can beat shit outta you but seems unable of critical thinking? like why would you apologize to the mf when he was being a dang creepo? i know that men like somewhat naive women so i thought a pinch of it was inevitable, but author went and spilled all the naivete they had in their pantry to come up with her character lol

i dont consider today's women feminists, like nowhere near the word. they dont even know what the word stands for they're just white upper/ middle class women who love going on social media calling men idiots like they're really doing something for the betterment of society and playing politics like it's some kind of sport team cheering lol

oh i remember reading about women's experiences with harassment and how when one confronted the perp everyone gasped (i think she was in a club or smthng) and look at her salty for ruining the "mood" like mfs didnt you see the dude grabbing her ass? thats so ingrained in society that i remember watching a movie with mom and a serial killer tortures and brainwashes a young woman, he leaves her alive and with a broken mind for the police to find, bur what stuck with my mom was: aww he really fell in love with her... and im like mom wtf that aint fucking romantic at all lol

Right!? I feel you on this. My mom acts like I hate all men whenever I call out bs or deconstruct old rom coms for their misogyny and stereotypes and she thinks I’m too extreme..but I think she’s much too lenient! Different generations...I’m glad to see younger women are waking up to the casual abuse coded as romance in our society.

Ive finished the first season of jjk and its really good. The femake characters so far have not dissapointed me and they are actually badass. Also the first opening song is by eve and its amazing.

ah yes! they're the generation of women that taught their young girls the need to stick to their man swim or sink and to trash your dreams and happiness to make yo man happy (my mom is a victim of that). the narrative boys will be boys and women should just let themselves be felt up smile and enjoy it is wearing thin. and i blame the boomer generation for generally all the messes we're stuck with today -going all the way up to climate change. they did not make any progress whatsoever but keep complaining about back in ma day like broken down repetitive robots that miss the good old days where they could punch their spouses freely in public lol

The one with Minho isn't out yet! I'm waiting for it too... But if you haven't read the raws for this one, don't read it, it's what happens to Minho after the last chapter of the manhwa, so lots of spoilers!

im confused werent u one of the ones who was rly upset about minho's mistreatment in this comic? why would u want to read a spinoff that is entirely structured around him suffering? (is the suffering ok as long as a hot man is doing it this time? jw)

The irony

I know this comment wasn’t to me, but I am so confused about why the author seems to hate him so much and feels the need to punish his character so so horribly meanwhile the other guy is an ACTUAL predator and rapist and that fact is acknowledged in the story....I’m really wanting to check out the new comic to see if that really is her plan for that character...if it is I won’t be reading it. Honestly it’s disturbing and idk what the author is thinking!!!! I am hoping to get some clarity from the spin off but I’ll be upset if it’s just more torturing him. He was treated horribly by the end of this comic. Yes it was wrong of him to do what he did but he clearly has deep issue and spoilers if you didn’t read the raws ((( mc ties him up and his neck to a door to force him to watch her have sex with the small dude as punishment for beating him up I assume. It’s emotionally torturing him and then she has the dude fuck her right over byun Minho and he cries and actually wets himself. It’s very upsetting. He’s a douchebag most of the time but the two people he’s involved with TORTURING HIM and making his emotional and mental issues so bad he almost commits suicide before being taken by the rapist for the spin off set up....I just have no words for this. The author is out of her damn mind if she it going to make a spin off torturing him even more. ))

Very true but I’d love to read it

She hates Minho because she hates people like him irl. It's disgusting because she's saying that a rapist is better than a too-full-of-himself person. Like wth... I understand that Minho's character is annoying, like, he's annoying me too at times, but I could never cheer on Doona or Woongyung because they are abusers and rapers.
Ikr, like, I don't understand why some people saw the raws and still think that Doona and/or Woongyung are better than him. Like, wth, the dude got abused (mentally and physically) and raped. Doona is just sad because "He didn't love her enough" and Woongyung is doing this for pleasure, how can you still cheer on them? I don't get it

Same, I'm just curious as to what will happen. Also, it's part of the series, aka the real ending in a way, and I read all/almost all extras of the manga I read so...

Yeah it very much seems like she’s been scorned by an ex in the past because her hatred of minho is so disproportionate and twisted. I don’t even understand how she can write a character like woongyung...I wonder if she really is going to try to redeem him or what...she confuses me because she realizes that minho is at a point where he is literally ready to kill himself...yet she’s doing a spin off that’s literally just set up to be torture porn...? She also has characters acknowledge, in canon, that woongyung is a rapist, predator, and horrible person. I’m just so baffled!!! What is her point!? If you’re going to weave a story around your smut people will care about the characters. If you want to just draw torture porn...make it that way from the beginning! I have never been mad at a hentai manga for being messed up or gross because it’s marketed as such and as porn and we all know the point is just because people wanna see it and get off on like a bloody nose or bdsm or non on or something without actually connecting to the character and thinking about the broader implications or emotional impact of that character in the long term and won’t have to feel bad about them. But if you write a 121 chapter manga fleshing out their lives and stories and having readers bond with them it’s no longer just porn! It’s a story and it makes the reader feel gross and sick.

It makes me sad to see minho get tortured by the only person he has been able to show a little bit of vulnerability around. If you want somebody to change sometimes you have to help them...not saying he deserves doonas help but she does send a lot of mixed signals to him about whether or not they are still friends/have any sort of social relationship. If she wants to be done with him she should say it but she doesn’t because she hopes when he’s at his lowest point he will come to her and when he’s like that he will do whatever she wants. God it’s depressing. But I’m interested in seeing his story through to the end...