This is actually getting annoying. The kid just really won't listen or even consider what anyone else is trying to tell him, but then expects others to listen to him and understand what he wants. I think its good that the author is trying to portray the pit falls of this kid's stubbornness... but its really annoying. He doesn't realize that without a high school education, most people don't look at you as a real adult even when you actually are one.
No offence, but that's called being a stupid teenager. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I know, that's why I said the author was doing a good job. It's realistic, I've met many kids like this. Buuuut....doesn't make it less annoying.
I read half of it all at once! I love it! Hate that I'm caught up and will have to wait for updates!
She probably wants his diary so she can get even more into character and solidify this personality of pretending to be him.
I'm honestly happy to see all the debates in the comments. Usually I see people posting stuff and wonder if they get that the relationships are fucked up or if they're actually rooting for the relationship as if it isn't problematic. Or if they are actually taking the story seriously and not treating it purely as porn. So I'm actually pretty happy to see that people do care about rape and its troublesome history within yaoi. Also I'm happy to see that people are able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I know a lot of young/adolescent people frequent this site and sometimes the comments I see are pretty scary. So its pretty cool that everyone gets that manga tropes are problematic and are able to appreciate the story for what it is.
Exactly, people can talk about whatever they want to talk about! End of story
That's right~
After looking at your comment plus others it got me thinking. I do wonder why people have such strong reactions, anything negative when it comes to manga, sometimes even calling the author or people who read it messed up.
For example when I read a novel. Which some I've read are a ton more messed up than this. People usually react with more critical thinking
wondering why the fictional characters think this way, or what is this leading to.
I dun think anyone called the authors messed up, even if they did seem like they're implying it, there's an element of consideration when they hear sound points from other fans. Now the debate has transitioned from the whole Rape is wrong to the responsibilities of using the rape trope for quality not quantity. I think everyone here is generally moving in a direction of understanding and the people who newly commented about the issue isn't bashing in caste heaven anymore, they said the tropes are fine but are wanting to tackle the larger issue prevalent in the yaoi world. I like the fact that the discussions are going on. Faith in 'hue-manatee' restored
Ah yes I agree.
Yes I like the discussions, especially how some people mentioned past current events, is what I love the most about these discussions.
With the whole calling the authors messed up thing, are from a few comments from the further past.
:) I like the discussions too
Kind of dislike that he rapes a child and then mentally abuses him for years. But for some reason messed up shit like that is normal in yaoi. It was an interesting read.
You just said what was in my mind.
Its kind of cute to think about the truth behind both scenes where the twins crawl into each others beds. They each do it when they fall for the black haired guy. Kana fell for him first, and crawled into her brothers bed that night with a troubled heart. Then later we see the brother ask to sleep in her bed and the sister is asking what's wrong and he doesn't really respond. That time he was troubled because he was falling for the other guy. Nice little insert by the author.
And yet again, yaoi normalizes rape :) That was 100% rape. If the person says no, and he did and he meant it, you have to stop. Maybe the guy forgives him in the end and doesn't feel mad and thats okay because he doesn't have to be offended by it, but do not misunderstand. That WAS rape. Why its wrong is that the manga makes it look like its okay if you apologize for "losing control" and dismisses responsibility from the rapist. You do not have to forgive them just because they think you're so "cute and amazing that they couldn't hold back". It was his responsibility to stop and if he doesn't he is a rapist. Plain and simple. There is no excuse. Overall though, I did find the manga sexy until the rape at the end and can dismiss it because the uke was not upset. I just hope that everyone can distinguish that what happened was wrong and that if somebody tries to say its not their fault because they just couldn't hold back, it IS their fault and you are not to blame.
So right man! （￣へ￣）
We're all the woman on the last page XD
I NEED MORE IMMEDIATELY
This is really heartbreaking....