Viira's Topics (331)

you say it all sister, amen for thatヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

I like him. I like Hee. I like Jumi. I just find that Hee and Jumi are more approachable, though Yoo Won seems more reliable. I think the reaction is that 1. we see Hee Bum's broken heart and 2. we don't really see Yoo Won's emotions. People tend to sympathize with the person who is clearly, openly hurting.

I think that's why so many are rooting for all three to be happy. I actually don't care what form the happy ending takes. I want all three smiling.

And also, we don't really know what Yoo Won is thinking. WE GUESS. You don't actually know why Yoo Won broke up for sure, not with the chapters we have here. You are guessing. We're all guessing. Because their love story/background/etc is still pretty much in the dark.

Since we assume Yoo Won is a good guy, we assume he's got a good reason. But when the story focuses mostly on the heartbroken guy, our reader sympathies heap that way--and the author has forced that.

Dude can you stop replying to all my Yoo Won posts. Like...okay thanks for your input, I've heard lots and lots of your opinion. I think we have exhausted the conversation that the two of us alone can have on the subject. All you keep doing is explaining to me, what I have already inferred and understand as I have a functioning brain. I know its all speculation, and thats exactly what the comment section is for. So really, its okay for you to stop picking apart my comments to try to find flaw in my thinking or whatever you're trying to do. Thanks dude, I get it. You just say the same things 100 different ways. I know what you're trying to communicate already. At this point I don't even want to comment on this story anymore if you're gonna leave a string of comments telling me to what we can all see with our own eyes and infer with our own brains. I'm not saying all that stuff because its obvious and its not the subject I think would make for a more interesting conversation.

Again thank you, but I want nothing more to do with the conversation. We are just at dead ends and discussing different ways to think at this point.

Honestly, didn't even notice your name. I reply to the comments and NEVER read the names (does it matter?)

I will reply to any comment I feel like responding to. You are not the God of me. YOu don't get to tell me who to reply to. If you dont want responses, don't post.

He's the one who broke up with Hee and he's the one who avoids socializing. I'm sure he has his own reasons for his distancing, but if he doesn't get comforted, it's really him who is making that situation--so far, anyway. I bet Hee would spoil him if he allowed it. I bet even Jumi would.

Thiiisssss^^

I think Yoo Won is a good guy, so he must have broken up for a good reason. I'm sure in time we'll get his story. I like all three of them, even though at the start, Hee Bum was so pushy and annoying with Jumi, he was irritating. Then you see it was about his broken heart, so you understood and felt sorry for him and liked him. And I think when we get Yoo Won's story and his reasons, we'll likely be the same--understanding and sympathetic. Cause you can tell he's got a heart and, like Hee, he's probably got some hurts. We've seen he can be caring....

I need them to be HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!! Sniff.

Thats not the point...sure they would try to comfort him but they still wouldn't actually understand his problems and....that feels even worse. Even if your friends are trying when your problem seems so out of touch with their reality it makes you feel bad. You don't want to live so differently or have problems that are strange to other people, especially to people you love. Also, we don't know the details of their relationship, Hee Bum might really like or being infatuated with Yoo Wom but that doesn't mean their relationship was good or healthy. We will have to wait and see.

He hasn't done anything that I can see to make them understand his problem much. And you're right, we don't know what their relationship was like. That remains to be explained. The author is not giving us that. She's given us enough Hee and Jumi that we know they're not bad people. We see him being nice to Jumi and putting himself at risk to help her. He's more impulsive and emotional than Yoo Won.

But it's not other's people's job to read our minds. We have to express ourselves clearly and try to be understood. That is also part of a relationship.

Again, I think you're speaking a bit biased. We don't know the details of their relationship or personal lives. Not everything in our lives is easy to talk or be open about. I think its too soon to criticize Yoo Won. I agree that Hee Bum and Jumi are good people. I just think its like Jumi said, Yoo Won seems to live in a world pretty different from their own; its not their fault if its hard to empathize with him. I was just saying I wish he had somebody there for him like Hee Bum and Jumi are supporting each other, he seems depressed and lonely.

Also like you said about Yoo Won avoiding socializing, thats typical for people with poor mental health or depression. Im not saying he without a doubt has depression, but from what I can see it very much seems that way. Depressed people tend to push others away. I don't think we should blame people that are having a hard time and that need support to get better for doing things they have little control over or don't realize they're doing. When you're having a hard time you don't always realize you're alienating yourself.

Yeah, I can see the possibility of depression being there. But don't blame the people who don't want to be an imposition or look at him and think he's pushing them away. Again, people aren't mind-readers and shouldn't be expected to be.

Lol idk why you keep acting like I blamed them, I never said anything was Hee Bum or Jumi's fault. I actually said that they both have tried and are good people and friends. All I said though was that I feed bad for Yoo Won and that I wish had somebody close to him right now like Hee Bum has Jumi. I want all of them happy.

Reread your opening post. You totally blame the others for "not understanding," "not treating him well."

Okay, thats wasn't me blaming them, I will explain. I am not blaming them by saying they do not understand. I didn't say it was their fault they didn't understand him, but it is accurate to say they don't understand him. They are not doing it purposefully or to hurt him. I have nothing against them, I love them. They don't get what his life is like but thats not their fault. I don't see how you can interpret what I said as blaming them for his problems. Also, they are not who I a referring to when I said people that don't treat him well. A lot of people try to get close to him for selfish reasons. The red head girl, the girl from his old school, etc.

Also, by not treating him very well I was referring to how he always ends up getting ditched. Jumi always goes with Hee Bum when he is upset, but sometimes Yoo Won is upset and its sad that nobody choses to comfort him. Thats nothing against them, but it would feel bad from Yoo Won's perspective. He doesn't blame them, and neither do I. Hee Bum makes his sadness clear and so people naturally will try to comfort the people who are making their feelings obvious or openly crying. But that doesn't mean Yoo Won isn't sad too. I wasn't saying they should choose and comfort him, just that I wish he had somebody that did.

And that goes back exactly to what I said: He needs to do something to get comfort if he wants it. Because if you act like you're absolutely fine and another person is bawling,w ho are you going to comfort? Not the person who is acting all in control and unbothered. You're gonnba go hug the person who is open enough to show they are hurting.

He didn't act like he was fine. Hee Bum just always runs off and cries, so how would Jumi have time to notice Yoo Won was sad? Also, what you're saying is just messed up. You think people that don't show their emotions do it because its fun? Because they want to be alone? Sorry but that isn't how it always works, you act like its so simple and black and white. People have different lives, raised differently, have different interactions. Who knows what Yoo Wons life has been like that he has a hard time showing his emotions? Also, I think its pretty clear that he doesn't like hurting Hee Bum so when he is forced to do something that will make him sad he probably thinks he deserves to be upset. This is clearly no simple break up. Yoo Won didn't just break up with Hee Bum because he couldn't stand being with him anymore. Yoo Won is older and is trying to be mature in front of both Jumi and Hee Bum. As the elder and being in Korean culture he is expected to "suck it up" and act like he is okay/ look out for them instead of himself. I think that Yoo Won had several reasons for breaking up with Hee Bum. I think he was genuinely trying to do what he thought was best for them both, especially if you see how Hee Bums dad reacted to the picture of him. He could be trying to protect him or both of them. I think you're being way too hard on Yoo Won who is clearly just trying to do what he thinks is best for either himself or Hee Bum which is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Idk what you have against Yoo Won but he clearly isn't a bad guy and has a lot of stuff and stress in his life right now. Being in a relationship when you're like that is usually a bad choice.

It's pretty clear to US, the manga readers. And some of it is obvious to Jumi and Hee, no doubt. But it's still a matter of the wall. If someone puts up a wall, others respect it If you want to be held, comforted, etc, the wall has to come down. Because as Jumi said, she's on Hee Bum's side. And that's normal. People take the side of those who make an effort to know them, be with them, interact, and be vulnerable with them.

I am not impuning Yoo Won about the relationship. I have no clue what went on with those guys--good or bad--because their backstory is still pretty much a mystery. Yoo Won is a mystery, moreso than the characters we see.

But the fact remains: if you don't open up to people and show your need, people can't always see it and understand it and give you what you need. Simple as that.

And, btw, when I read the first chapters when they came out, I assumed the breakup was for good reasons (or at least, manga-world good reasons). Be it a family issue or a "I need to focus on studying" issue or you're rich/I'm poor or my family has a cirminal background and yours has a high status issue.

In fact, I thought Hee Bumw as the asshole at first, with how he was so aggressive with Jumi. It was seeing his broken heart that softenened me. I like him a lot now. :D

That's beside the point. The point is that if you WANT to be understood, then make a damn effort to BE understood. That's what Hee Bum, in his weird little way did. He made himself and his hurt and his needs known to Jumi and she responded.

Yoo Won, in his own personality way, has to be more open if he WANTS to be comforted. If not, he won't.

Okay cool dude. But realize real people with real mental illness are reading your comment of "The point is that if you WANT to be understood, then make a damn effort to BE understood" and feeling even shittier about themselves, which in turn makes doing what you're telling them to do even harder. Its not that easy and it takes time and close and serious connections with people to be able to do that. Stop over simplifying. You do not display a personal knowledge of battling severe depression or any sort of anxiety disorder. Stop telling people how to behave because its just bullshit. In the context of the story what you're saying isn't a big deal, but REAL people will read your comment and it will have REAL effects on them. You seem self absorbed when you over simplify and categorize things so black and white.

I have suffered severe depression, including suicide attempt, which shows you aren't as perceptive as you think.

Also, you only see things your way. Maybe accept not everyone is going to agree with you or with me. You gave your opinion and I gave mine. No one said we had to agree.

lol I'm the one who can only see things my own way???? WOO BOY (￣∇￣")
And you weren't even giving opinions, you were literally saying my thinking is incorrect because we don't have enough info. Like, what? Whats the point of doing that over an over? You're fucking craaaazy. You like just couldn't accept that I was saying stuff you disagreed with because you're the one who kept coming after me and couldn't just let a simple comment go. I'm done, nut job.

Yes. You are as entrenched in your opinion as I am in mine.

#relatable