I can't even fucking believe it....after reading the girls prison arc it just hits me hard...that of all the fucking fan service and distortion of women's bodies and clear objectification present in this manga...It does more for its female characters than most shounen manga has managed in their centuries of running. The female characters here get to take center stage, be strong, be smart, and they steal the show in equal if not greater proportion to the men. And the girls can be just as perverted as the guys. Its a comedy and extremely exaggerates things but it really knows boys and girls well and doesn't shy away from a certain realness like a lot of male oriented content does to make women into a certain "likable" image for men. Like....I started reading this because I really liked Hana as a character and just wanted to see her and was worried I'd get super annoyed with it. But like the over dramatized sexualization constantly calls itself out and is a joke in the first place and pushed to the limits that it functions more being laughable/comedy than it functions as ecchi. The manga constantly owns up to itself and its characters actions. Its never just like "oh the girls were bitches and were way too hard on the guys" or "the guys are perverts completely without morals and only care about sex". The author makes fun of the guy characters and reminds us constantly that they do shit that of course they're gonna get punished for or called out on because we all know its inappropriate while also calling out the girls when they mess up too. And even kind of poses morals? Like the scene where Kiyoshi was debating fondling Chiyo where the author sets up a whole ecchi style joke just for the punch line to be "wait...shouldn't I truly be asking myself whether doing this in this situation and context is okay?? Like Chiyo is clearly upset and wouldn't want this under normal circumstances so something is wrong and doing this is wrong even if its what I thought I wanted". Like it takes some guys a life time to grasp the understanding of the situation Kiyoshi was in. This manga is really something else, I can't help but enjoy and actually respect it. For once I get to see strong badass women that are open to their sexuality and wants and whatever there is in between. Oh yeah, and they get to do that all in a genre where that almost never happens or only does so in small short bursts and hardly even seem canon.
I agree with you on most part. Can add from a guys point of view, 'fan service' is made in such a way that most of the time it doesnt look erotic, rather irritating or repulsive, especially scenes with Meiko. And its not a bad thing, rather it shows that its not the point, partly its about making fun of mans nature. Guys are constantly made fun of, but they completely deserve it, nothing good will come out of thinking with one point, grow up.
P.S. when I say irritating or repulsive, its more like a vibe of that, by knowing that it is intentionally exagerated to make fun and thus feels like a spit to your face (lol) - hope this made you laugh ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Lol yes, I completely agree. The scenes, like especially with Meiko, don't even function as fan service, I just wasn't sure how else to describe it. In all honesty this would probably best be described as a parody of ecchi and seinen manga. Its very effective in what its doing. Im also super invested in all of the female characters and their interactions, none of them are one dimensional. A lot of people call Chiyo plain but even she has a lot to her character imo.
Omg, they're everywhere
I can't believe the translator drew dicks for us
lol thank you translators~~
Ch 3 was cute...but the smutty scene felt so random and abrupt and out of character for oozeki (is that right?) to me. I mean it ended up flowing well with the story and it was cute but I was like...what the heck. It was just so sudden and out of nowhere.
I really couldn't read this one...who thought it would be a good idea to be like "every man in my office is gay...so naturally they're all engaging in sexual acts at work all day long"...like they aren't normal people that would just work their jobs but instead can't be professional. It just plays into the idea that gay people are sexual deviants and inherently sexual beings.
You can't possibly think this has any pretense of portraying real life... I mean, what are the chances of a company were 99% of the staff are men, with full sexual prowess (no old men, no impotence and no ED) and gay?
If you can not see the plethora of other comments, I have been informed that the comic is supposed to be satirical. I have read those kind comments and understand so hopefully people reading this comment know that I have read them so people can stop leaving the same comments. Also, I guess you'd be surprised that manga and comics like that obviously do exist which is why this comic is satire, its a gag referencing those comics existence because its generally a genre that is known to be written by straight women and fetishize gay men.
Unless that person really is just that dumb, no one reads the yaoi genre and think of it as accurate potrayal of real life gay people anyway. Even in the bara genre (where's it usually made by gay men for gay men), a lot of it are also highly unrealistic. Fictional stories let's you play with unrealistic ideas and crazy fantasies . Anyone with a properly functioning brain can differentiate between fiction and reality just fine.
I guess you haven't noticed, but this site is fuuuull of dumb underaged kids. I remember being young and reading my first yaoi and even just reading anything, shoujo, regular teen/young adult books...there are people on this site reading stuff and not knowing what is real, fake, or exaggerated or knowing its fake but learning messages subconsciously. Its not as rare as you think.
I am well aware, which is why I mentioned "unless that person really is just that dumb". Those that are sane would know better than to take fictional stories too overly serious, especially one in the yaoi genre with a blatantly obvious comedy tag. If people took every single work of fiction so seriously, treating it as if it's part of reality/accurate portrayal of reality and choose to be offended by a story that's not even real, then plenty of horror/erotica writers would've been crucified long ago for all those twisted ideas & dark fantasies that are taboo in real life.
lol I like how you made this about something that it wasn't about at all. Like nobody was talking about what you're talking about, you just brought it up. When I read the first couple of pages I couldn't tell it was satirical because I have read manga and manhua that REALLY is just that bad. Like its just bad and super dumb and unrealistic. I commented with that in mind and people let me know it was supposed to make fun of that. I thought the "comedy" was just cringy instead of satire. I know it isn't now thanks to a few comments. So really, I get that you have something on your mind you wanna bring up and talk about, but thats not what was even going on here. I guess I can see how you thought it was though. And I wouldn't put kids under the label of stupid people, they're just kids, they don't know shit yet but think they do. We were all there at one point. Somebody had to teach us all how to use a damn spoon. The only difference is that with the internet minors now have access to content they don't have to maturity and knowledge to understand and distinguish some situations and ideas.
Well as you said, this site is full of dumb underage kids.
Satirical or not, this was simply a fictional comedy to begin with..nothing more than that.
Point is, too many people take fiction a bit too seriously sometimes and they start overreacting or misinterpret things. I think it happens to everyone at some point, including myself. So I think it's good to occasionally remind ourselves and others that fiction is just fiction. Some have even become delusional enough to start harbouring immense hatred for something that's not even real at all. I've read some comments from people saying that this manhwa is giving them a lot of real stress, anger and frustration to the point that they can barely continue reading it anymore....which to me is kind of an overreaction.
I think those people just sound invested in the story. Or maybe the content hits home with a situation they've been in. Whats the point of stories if you can't become invested in the events or characters. Sometimes its hard to finish a story when you're invested and bad things happen, no shame in that. I remember people having to stop reading books about abuse because its just a hard topic. Stories are supposed to make us react so I don't think theres really an overreaction unless people are like sending death threats or something because of it
Sangwoo is probably going to make Bum kill the uncle...saying he should for the way he treated him. Its probably going to bring Sangwoo back to his abuse and how he killed his parents.
Highly likely, yea. It would be some sort of continuation from the kill of Jieun. In ch19, I think Sangwoo wanted Bum to feel relief from killing like he did. Sangwoo didn't get the response he wanted from Bum in the start of the first season. So perhaps killing someone who Bum hates might change Bum's thoughts about killing.
Im feeling so conflicted right now. I was hating Hyunwoo and was ready for Subin to move on from him but after getting a chapter from Hyunwoo's perspective...it compicates my feelings. I know that having a relationship with Hyung would probably be best...but I still feel there is a lot unspoken between Hyunwoo and Subin. Maybe I'll feel better if they were to talk things out for once. I want Hyunwoo to really communicate with Subin and to apologize. I want him to share his emotions and help Subin understand him better. But I also want him to listen to Subin and acknowledge his feelings and his pain. Its difficult to see Hyunwoos side because he struggled and everyone around him could tell he had feelings for somebody else/ Subin but he was so nervous, self conscious, and scared about living his life and connecting to others emotionally. He tried to fit into a role he thought would be easier, he was scared. I can't say anything bad on him for that. Korea is more conservative than where I live so I imagine it would be difficult. Also, Hyunwoo is moving at his own pace to understand his sexuality. If anything it is our societies fault for hurting these children that don't easily fit into one box/ for allowing them to be confused and in pain because of peoples selfishness. Hyunwoo made many mistakes and he hurt Subin so much and I think he knows that... I just need closure between them.
me too , arghhhhhhhhh
hyung is better , but , but,,,,