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So like Subin and Hyung would be a more sustainable one even tho he gives no shit about Hyung, uses him than with the guy he is actually in love with and wants to be with? Sure, and Hyung would be happy to hear he is his toy for comfort and shoulder to cry on and that Subin won't ever love anyone as much as Hyunwoo and this wouldn't possible cause frictions btw them in the future if they stayed together. Honestly .... Hyung is better off alone than with Subin.

-.- yeas but we all know how it will end. he choose his childhood friend and they hurt each other again and again. "happy end"

I think Subin would become a better person through being with Hyung and that he does have feelings for him. I guess you don't understand how hard it can be to let somebody else into your heart when you've been in love with somebody that has treated you like shit and played with your heart for years. I don't think you're reading the amount of depth that is actually present in each of the characters and their emotions here because your comment displays an oversimplification of the plot as well as the characters narratives.

It's missing some pages. This chapter is just the screenshots from the official translation and I just read it on lezhin

But I do agree with you. The chapters are getting shorter and shorter, but that might be due to the authors wrist injury

Oh, that makes sense! Thank you

This chapter isn't missing any pages. I think it seems so choppy because it jumps from scene to scene. One second Hyung is coming home from work, their drinking, then it's hyunwoo working in the studio, to Subin working, then Subin getting coffee and seeing Noona, to the next page Noona telling hyunwoo she saw him, and so forth

Yeah I could understand it it just wasn't...done well. But I didn't know the author was injured, that makes sense for why it might not be up to the same standards that it usually is otherwise.

yeah! so sweet!!!!!!

Σ( ￣□￣||) I meant to like it
<(゜ロ゜;)>

One time I was so sleepy and tired after finishing a project. I remember locking the door then going to sleep. When I woke up the next day I asked my brother how did he come in since the lock I set cant be opened from the outside. He said that i opened the door for him but I have no recollection of me doing that at all.

Forgetting things when you're sleepy is possible

Well I get that, I've forgotten little things like that as well. Its especially easy to forget things you've done when you're sleepy. But certain things give you a rush and I have a hard time believing that you can forget what is being implied he that forgot when it appears to be a big deal to him to conceal his feelings for his brother in the first place. Normally you'd be worried about self preservation and that fear wakes you up. Im just saying...its certainly not the most plausible. If its trying to imply that they had sex idk if I can believe it at all, but maybe he'd forget something lesser that lasted only a short amount of time.

One time I fell asleep in a chair and I was told to move to my bed,but when I woke up the next morning I had no memory of moving to bed

Like I said, easily forgettable things are different. When you're in control of your actions like walking to bed its easy to forget. Sometimes the person I was dating would wake me up in the morning to get a hug before they left the house and I was so sleepy I'd fall right back asleep and forget it happened. So if it was a kiss I could buy the situation more easily but if it was sex for example, you don't just have a session of that half asleep. When you're sleepy enough to forget walking to bed and stuff, the people who saw you do it can report how sleepy and out of it you looked. I've done stuff like that and you're really slow and sluggish so I have a hard time believing he had sex and forgot it in that case, you have to be really active in that....or if his brother basically did anything sexual with him while he was that out of it....then its creepy and gross all on its own. But Im thinking maybe they didn't have sex but something else happened. Still its not okay to do anything like that with somebody that is that out of it....

Yeah I agree it's so weird that he forgot something like that. Shouldn't the rush of sexual pleasure have woken him up or at least remembered it? (If that's what they did)

There was time when I went to sleep and told my family to wake me up at midnight to see the firework. Next morning I woke up and complaining them abt not keeping their promise, I was so angry till I saw a video of me standing under the firework while looking souless
Guess there're people who can't remember anything when falling in deep sleep like me now and then:))

Imagine how scary if that plot is used in a horror movie.

Isn't that more like skeepwalking? (≧∀≦)

Not saying it's the case here or anything, but it IS possible to have sex while asleep if you have a condition called "sexsomnia" (and, no, I'm not kidding).
See here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex

Maybe he thought it was a wet dream?

Those were my thoughts when I first read it. Im now thinking maybe something else sexual happened like just a bj or something....but still, the way the brother was acting made it seem like sex. And if I remember correctly they were both nude.

I think you are right and wrong. Yes solidarity between women and all that bull, but at the same time, I think I should be able to use any word I want to describe a person. Bitch, isnt just limited to females and honestly, cunt is a much better descriptive word.
Also, I dont trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesnt die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KARPvncvqW8

I mean Im not saying that the word bitch doesn't have its place in the world for a lot of other uses. It can be used for comedic effect and a lot of other non serious things or even serious things when it really really actually suits it. But when other groups, especially men, see it being used like people are using it in this comment section thats when it get more insidious. All Im trying to say it for people to be more conscious of how they use it. The way people are throwing it around here is the way that when people see it it justifies subconsciously using it the same way when thinking about women fictional or not. I also think it matters what words you're using in a safe place versus public where it effects how other people think and view things. I'd have ways I'd use the words bitch and cunt that I wouldn't use here or in the environment where I could be misunderstood or use it irresponsibly. I'm no saint, I love my swears especially for exaggerations or comedic uses. However there are a lot of really young girls on this site though so I want to be conscious of that and the image they form about themselves and their peers.

I don't really know what do you mean by "really young", but this site is meant for either adults or children over the age 13 WITH PARENTAL CONSENT. If your little girls don't fit into these categories, then they shouldn't even be here and therefore it's not anybody's problem if they stumble upon material that is not suitable for children (comic books about serial killers or maybe even comments where the word bitch is used). If they do have permission - welp, still not my problem. You can't forbid adults from drinking in a nightclub, because a kid could accidentaly walk in and see something inappropriate.

Well if those kids get access to here, bitch word shouldnt be whats important. What worrisome is shota sex, rape, abusive etc contain in manga. What makes you think that those little girl friends speak polite? Ofc not theyre little kids after all ,even when we were young our friends said those 'bad' words without parents know

We live in digital era, information travel fast, surely those kids wont see 'bad' word in this website only, how to teach them that its bad? Well its what we call parenting isnt it?. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Lets not pretend that the internet is for adults only and that those only enter if you're 18 pop ups mean anything. The internet is changing and of course kids have access to material they're not mature enough to process. If you really understood what I was saying it wasn't to censor swears so kids don't see or learn about cuss words, its to be aware of how we use them and how people see them used. Even in middle schools little girl are calling other little girls bitches over the dumbest stuff. Im not saying oh no little kids can't know or use bad words, its about being aware of how we contextualize how they're used if we want to change how they're used towards us. Like a think to say something like "the bitch in this story is annoying" is a dumb way to use it because its reductive. Its meant to strip Yura of her personhood and make her out to be lowly and dehumanize her. Its one thing to say "Yura's acting like such a bitch" or "Yura is being a total bitch to her friends" than just referring to her as bitch. You can see the difference in how its used and how you read and internalize it. All Im saying is lets not teach other girls to reduce each other down to a slur meant to strip us of our power and voice, thats how its been used by men in power and even fellow women for its entire existence.

Again read what I wrote, I don't have problems with kids knowing and using swears its how they're used and the context. Im just saying we can be examples with how we consume and respond to media seeing as kids learn for adults reactions. "That bitch is annoying" and "Yura is acting like a bitch" are different. Im not saying don't say bitch Im saying don't use it as its historically been used as a reductive word to dehumanize women. Referring to them as bitch is literally meant to dehumanize us. Thats why the word comes from an animal, its meant to invalidate us as people. All Im saying is when we call girls bitches it might as well be justified. Like saying its bitchy to treat her friends the way Yura is and to not acknowledge her as a person are different.

Again, you should probably reread what I've said. Its not meant to censor cuss words its to realize that adults have always been models for kids around them based on our reactions to the world around us and how we use words. If we use bitch in a reductive way to dehumanize other women as its historically been used I'd say thats irresponsible and doing no favors to ourselves and other girls

Also to address the other themes in manga, its the same as I explained. When younger people see us react to things thats how they learn. So when we call out abuse as abuse in manga when its not made clear that helps validate the kids using this site to know what abusive behavior is or what rape is and help them understand what is fine to enjoy or read about in fiction should be separated from our attitudes in real life. For example, there are a lot of adults who enjoy rape play or porn like that, but they don't actually rape people and would have zero interest in doing so. Its like knowing the difference between safe bdsm play and flat out abuse. But we're also adults who can model knowing what fiction is and being able to enjoy manga with inappropriate content while separating it from real life. When the people too immature to be using this site but clearly are anyway because theres nothing you can do about it Ive actually seen a lot of adults here step up. I've seen them do it on lots of manga with abuse and rape. A good example is with Killing Stalking. A lot of readers addressed how its fine to enjoy the story as it is without romanticizing or fetishizing whats happening. You can read a story about abuse without condoning abuse. Lots of people reading that manga try to make it clear to the young readers that what they're seeing is manipulation and abuse not just twisted love, for example.

I find it funny how a while back, you commented a response to me telling me that this is a place for discussion, and not to moderate comments or the content in said comments. Yet you go around demanding people cater to your own opinions and beliefs. Chill. People will continue saying what they want on this site, and if you've got a problem with that, maybe you shouldn't be roaming the internet.

Lmao I didn't demand shit, all I did is make a suggestion and then back up why I personally thought my opinion was valid. People can do what they want with what I said and the reasoning I put forth. I didn't force my opinion onto anyone and openly discussed my opinion with the people who started a conversation with me. Nice try though~~

Y'all here comes the typical straight white homophobic girl comments

Sorry, I'm just wondering what thats in reference to. I guess I don't see how what you're saying applies to the situation and am just curious ^^;

OH. I meant to reply to one of your comments on another person's post when you brought u the BL stuff . My bad.

EXACTLY! IT'S TO LATE IN THE GAME FOR THEM TO SUDDENLY REVEAL A SECOND CEIL.... This leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and almost makes me wanna stop reading all together...

Yes I agree. I'm sobbing right now.