Chapter 33 was kind of weak ngl. I was hoping we would get more into Dahye's side, but Dahye's side from the past 10 years of their relationship. I feel like I already know Dahye came to that conclusion with Yuna through Yuna's perspective. So.. Like.. it kind of felt pretty repetitive to me? Well.. Let's see how the next following chapters turn out. I really do enjoy the story, just some criticism about it.
40% of wondering whether minju has a dick or not
25% saying minju is more toxic
25% saying hayoon is more toxic
10% liking the beta girl more
Ayo but stan beta girl, jus sayin ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Cha minju is toxic because she seems to be showing signs of overly possessive behaviors, as seen with her behavior with Hayoon and show she basically rapes her out of fear and a need to keep Hayoon to herself. I think the reason for this is because it seems like Hayoon is one of the only people in her life, if not the only one, who she actually loves. Any fear that the only person in her life who she feels can ever love will leave/be with someone else, causes her to go crazy.
Hayoon is toxic because she brings her issues of abandonment onto other people. I speculate that hayoon was abandoned/sold by her parents and was going to be sold as a child slave/prostitute, so this causes hayoon to think she's just some product and once people get tired of her they'll eventually leave her as shown from her past(this seems to have happened during her most developmental years as a child, so she will think this throughout her adult life). So she's hesitant on letting anyone get close to her.
Cha minju knows this, which is why she seems so confident even if hayoon flat out denies her. However, hayoon is getting scared because she probz realizing she really loves cha minju and probz cant live without her. She might of trusted someone in the past and got abandoned (her parents maybe) so she assumes (it doesn't matter how illogical this belief is, she will still think it) cha minju will do the same exact thing. As a result she's making up excuses (since she thinks she can't be loved ; cuz abandonment issues) as to why cha minju is with her, because shes just an omega, and she smells nice but once minju gets bored of the smell and leaves her she will be alone again. Hayoon really doesn't think she has much value and can be discarded at any moment because she is an omega, so for her she will always build walls around her so it's difficult for anyone to get close, and will just live her life alone since no one will hurt her then.
Will she be successful? No. She loves Cha minju too much tbh. Hayoon trying to leave is just her having a melt down and freaking out over the fact that cha minju was able to make her fall head over heels for her, and it scares the fuck out of her.
Okay so I haven't reread the manga, and to be honest i've read it a few years ago, but back then I didn't have an account (and too lazy to make one). So today I'm like scrolling through the yuri mangas and saw this one, and it's been YEARS SINCE I READ IT, but even then my heart ached and I felt heart broken. So I'm going to post this comment about how I felt about the manga since I didn't do it back then. I vaguely remember the manga but i remember just being really sad at the ending. The ending wasn't clear, it was open ended and people keep saying different stuff about it, but honestly it really does seem like the MC doesn't end up with the witch but instead the hunter.. BUT THATS SO DUMB.
Like okay so you're going to tell me if you have an obsessive/abusive sister who controls everything you do, that you're just forever doomed to have fucked up relationships? Yeah sorry guys if you have an abusive family member rn you're just forever doomed, lol sorry, no recovery. LIKE I WANT TO SEE THE WITCH BREAK AWAY FROM HER SISTER FULLY, AND EVEN IF SHE DOESN'T END UP WITH THE MC CAN'T WE JUST SEE HER END UP IN THE HUMAN OVER WORLD LIVING HAPPY AND AWAY FROM HER SISTER? like here I am getting super attached to the red hair witch only to see her get FUCKED. Yeah this comment was kind of mean, but anyways go ahead and read it if you're in the mood to get your heart broken. Unless you actually like the hunter.
I feel like this is going to be one of those romance mangas where the girl is like "omg no I don't want this" when like she's totally turned on. Which should be noted that relationships aren't like this at all irl, unless both parties consented and it's part of their roleplay or whatever. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying this yuri a lot. Just a daily reminder to read this for entertainment.
Y'all I don't think people realize this relationship isn't necessarily toxic. Part of the appeal of Sulwha asking these considered 'annoying' questions is to help the reader understand the past of what their faults in the past relationship between jaehee and Huilin. Also, the author wants Sulwha to make Huilin feel hopeless in their BDSM play sessions with the safe word being "huilin" for the fact that it's to add a layer of dominance vs submissiveness. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand how Sulwha and Jaehee's relationship is actually toxic, yes there are issues, but that doesn't mean the pairing is bad. We'll see in the incoming chapters to see how the author plays out the pairing.
If it werent for sulhwa jaehee would be having sex with every random female on this manga like in part 1.sulhwa loves jaehee for real. She became like this tp control jaehee urges.
Jaehee cheated on sulhwaa during chapter 24,when she got drunk and called huilin.
I agree...
Sulhwa raped her that the big issue for me and why I don’t stand her
Huh.. She raped her.. When?
Didnt they agree to have that relationship? Didnt jaehee betrayed her trust, even she knew how much sulhwa liked her.Since season 1,jaehee has been horny to sulhwa. Sulhwa on the other hand just wanted her unnie to like her. And what did she got in return. Betrayal, treated like an idiot.
Imagine ur lover fucking someone else behind your back.And u caring for her. One find out your gf sleeping with someone else. What would u do?
Options:
1) cry and apologize
2)You will leave her by saying, "i thought u loved me. Ok its my fault i guess. But im happy that found someone.
3)_____ fill in the blanks
And thats not all. Jaehee cheated because she couldnt control herself. So anyone is fine.. Really as long they make her cum.
Think on the perspective of sulhwa.
Yes there are issues they need to work out. I think a huge factor that drives jaehee to cheat is essentially the past that she and sulhwa share. Jaehee was in an emotionally abusive relationship with her mother especially, with her mom purposely playing favorites to Sulhwa and treating Sulhwa so much better. A part of Jaehee wants to be with Sulwha, but ironically enough, another part of her wants her to go through the same pain she felt through when she was pretty much betrayed by her own mother. But that complex relationship is what is able to help the author create a series rather than a few chapters. And when Jaehee realized how much damage she did to Sulhwa during the rape scene (honestly, and I may get a lot of hate for this, but I feel like that scene was created more to add drama to the series. I don't think Sulhwa would of actually raped Jaehee given how the author originally created Sulhwa's personality) she kind of realized that causing Sulwha this much emotional damage isn't necessarily what she wants anymore. They're still trying to work through there issues and understand the relationship better, which is why I don't think the relationship is toxic, for the fact that they're trying, at least so far in the series.
Same
What did u expect? Sulhwa was normal girl doing normal things. Wanted her oneesan to accept her.go on dates etc.Her personality flipped.have u never seen calm and easy going people getting sudden burst of rage.
Jaehee had it coming tho. Im on sulhwa side here. May be she went to extreme but i can fully understand why she did that.
May be one day u will understamd, when ur wife sleeps with someone else.
And jaehee will do it again... U will see.but this time, sulwa will just leave without saying anything. And dissapear from her life forever
Are you saying raping someone is okay just because they had sex with someone else even though they weren't even in a relationship? If you actually think that she deserved to be raped then I'm pretty sure you're insane
They were in a relationship. Sulhwa confessed said, "she always loved her. And if she didnt mind she would be her partner.So she doesnt need to have sex with other peoplr or associate with person like huilin, just to satisfy her desire. She woupd fulfill her lust".
and jaehee accepted. After that they had sex like 1000 times.If u think they weren't in a relationship, u r the one who is ignorant.
She made sulhwa a monster. Her innocence is gone because of her.If u think sulhwa would just stand there doing nothing, u r the one who doesnt understand anything about sulhwa.
Raping someone is wrong. No doubt about that. But u need to understand the ground they stand.U need to wear the shoes and look through her eyes. Feel the pain,anxiety of sulhwa to understand her the actions thats she took.Lust overtook her and the rage and disgust that she felt when she saw jaehee with huilin and even refusing to answer when she asked, where she was.
Dont think whats wrong and whats right. Dont see the manga through the eyes of social norms.Think why it happened.was it unavoidable. This isnt the first time sulhwa was disgusted.jealousy, anger, anxiety, lust overtook her.so i said, she had it coming.
Jaehee knew full well how badly sulhwa wants her.but still decided to cheat on her. She left her when sulhwa was a kid. Never contacted her for 15 years. U think nothkng will happen. Sulhwa is not some average girl
Wait r u 15 year old?
I'm not saying that Sulhwa didn't deserve to be angry. She definitely had the right to be upset. It's the fact that she rapes Jaehee that ultimately makes me lose all my sympathy for her. I don't care about her reasons, she shouldn't have raped her. Even if she did cheat (which she didn't because ch 24 pg 18 confirms they weren't in a committed relationship and that they were just fuck buddies), it doesn't mean Sulhwa has the right to do what she did.
That chapter 24 confirms nothing.
Sulhwa repeatedly said that she likes her to jaehee.she said that she loved her since last 15 years and that she was upset when she lefr her.and thats the only reason she agreed to have sex with jaehee in the first place.may be jaehee should have refused to have sez with her if she didnt feel the same way about sulhwa. Sulhwa is not some cheap slut.people have feeljngs.
But when jaehee had sex huilin she broke hwr heart and trampled all over her feelings.her confession meant nothing to her.This is her little sister we r talking about who never dated anyone and never fell in love except jaehee.And if u don't acknowledge that, i also dont acknowledge that sulhwa raped her.she just had little bit rough sex.
"Its not like i can accuse you cheating.its not like we are in a committed relationship "
" I like you unnie "
They were in a relationship.she proposed to her multiple times. Jaehee was the one who never gave answer to her. So just said yes to the sex part.Remember that. She was committed to jaehee. She took her relationship seriously. For jaehee it was just another fuck buddy. It was her problem, not sulhwa.
You can ask anyone in this group whether jaehee cheated on sulhwa or not. They will tell you the same thing as I.
It doesn't matter if Sulhwa likes Jaehee. They are NOT in a relationship at this point so it was perfectly fine that she decided to fuck with Huilin whether Sulhwa liked it or not (which is why ch 24 DOES actually confirm something). Like I said before, Sulhwa had EVERY right to upset, but she had NO right to rape Jaehee because of her anger. Sulhwa can't just go raping her just because her feelings got hurt (seriously, how the fuck is raping her gonna make her like back? Complete bullshit that Jaehee forgave her for that shit).
That argument doesn't even fit because almost everyone in this comment section is biased against Jaehee.
She never proposed to her as far as I'm aware of? Also, it's no surprise for Jaehee it's just another fuck buddy. Sulhwa herself said that she didn't care if Jaehee was in it for the sex as long as she just needs her.
Dude... Stop
She proposed to her twice. First when they were on date chapter 1
Re read lilith 1 and 2...now
She never proposed to her in Chapter 1, she just gave her flowers and then the people around them thought she was proposing to her.
Oi, didnt she say, "i like you unnie."
After she got drunk?
Didnt she try to touch her jaehee hands on movie theater when they were watching?
Even she heard from her friends who were talking how sulhwa likes jaehee and chases around her.but she got already dumped once, why does she likes her so much they asked.
Her friend knew jaehee was listening.
The date part was planned by their friends and jaehee listened to it.
Read chapter 24 of lilith 1.jahee and sulhwa 's childhood Friend talk about sulhwa. She asks, why did sulhwa came to this highschool and her friend says, "r u kidding. Dont u know the answer already. Do u not like sulhwa.she always talks about you. She has been doing that since she was a kid."
Also if u despite knowing this, if u r just trolling me, i will stop replying you back from now on. This will be my last reply to you
I don't think that's proposing unless your definition of proposing is different than mine. Anyways, we should probably stop arguing about this proposing thing since it's not even relevant
Can someone please pick this up and translate it to the ending?
It can be a project for people who are in quarantined right now
Ok the manga isn't terrible, but at the same time I feel like 8.7 is too high
This relationship is toxic AF. Still enjoyable read.