3rd story : That must've felt awfully horrible being told all that while having sex (lol I feel bad for the seme). Can't believe he even reached to the point where he said "Go, do it with someone else first and get practice" and instead of being sorry for saying something so rude, he was the one who threw tantrum because the seme agreed ╮(￣▽￣)╭ like
Crybabies, Rude people - two types of people I hate the most lol #－.－) What a combination.....
#Okay but that extra doujinishi with their roles reversed was really realistic and cute.
No need to take it that seriously..
@Peach, I just love analyzing stuff, that's how I enjoy reading. Sorry (￣∇￣") Now I can't change what my heart genuinely felt during reading this.
I completely understand what your saying and I completely agree with you on the way you analyzed this story ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I only analyzed a moment which managed to trigger my heart a bit in the whole story but anyways, thanks ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Hahaha you don’t know how much that related to me on a spiritual level ╰(*´︶`*)╯♡ I love analyzing things especially if they trigger my heart too!
#analyzingbuddies (only if u want to of course)
Aye ofc (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy let us continue to analyze stories together and have wonderful conversations!(▰˘◡˘▰)
The 2nd story's seme be like all those overpossesive selfish guys who doesn't give a fuck about the uke's feelings. I mean he's literally like - (I want to do it, so I'll do it!) (I told you to strip, so STRIP!!) (Don't go around doing anything without my PERMISSION!!) (Doesn't matter if your body hurts, just ENDURE!)
Like wtf man? If someone was being like this to me, I'd be like - Get the fuck outta here asshole.
Meh....it's a no.
Agreed
Seriously dude, just how old a man get at the age of only 32?! I always thought that's the age when men starts getting actually sexier and bolder. And here this guy literally acting like he's at his 60 or something. I gotta admit, I got hella annoyed by the uke in this manga. He made me almost frustrated at how he was handling (?) situations......meh :|
The 2nd story of Kan and Shuuna has 2 prequel manga named
1. Sabita Yoru Demo Koi Wa Sasayaku
2. Azami (It's a doujinshi where it's shown why Kan started becoming so violent)
The 1st one is Kan's past where it's shown how he used to cruely abuse his boyfriend Yumi. The story's more focused on his ex-boyfriend "Yumi" and how he overcomes Kan's violence and starts a new healthy realationship.
You guys should check it out if you haven't already. It's absolutely worth a reading.
Prequel - Sabita Yoru Demo Koi Wa Sasayaku, Azami
Sequel - Hadakeru Kaibutsu
As I read the prequels first and know Kan's past, it's hard for me to forgive him this easily. I wonder if Shuuna still would've accepted him if he escalated how exactly he used to treat Yumi. He kinda escaped by saying an easy sentence "I hit him." I wonder how Shuuna would've reacted if Kan actually said "I used to burn holes on his skin with cigarettes" "I used to kick him, fuck him and punch him until he bled like fountains."
I just wonder.
He never even properly apologized. But I'm glad that he's happy now.
Oh wow yeah he really downplayed what he did to his ex! I wonder if we'll ever get a reason as to why he did all those awful things
There was a reason. He was being abused at work and he couldn't handle the pressure.
His situation at work was also downplayed and it was never handled. Most of his self loathing stemmed from his abusive behavior towards his ex, but he never talked about being physically, verbally and sexually abused at work.
this highkey late, but if your mental state is that bad, i find it hard to simply forgive kanchan for abusing his ex because that downplays what his ex went through lmao. even kan chan blames his actions as his conscious decisions,,,,sooo
So...
Finally I found a decent yaoi manga. God this is so good I almost cried. Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous artwork. And the story made my heart ache 'cause it's just so beautiful. Ahh...I feel really good after having such a nice trip. God bless you author-san (▰˘◡˘▰)
Read Sign its korean but it's the best thing that will ever happen to you. And most other manga will start fall just a lil shirt, that's the only down side.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sign_language/?av=5
I've read it already but thanks! I'm well aware of manhwa and manhua and basically I'm a freak of all ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Sign language is among my top 5 manhwa (▰˘◡˘▰)
I feel bad that this is the only decent manga you know. Looks like you're not reading much.
Almost a year ago - Yes, true. Wasn't reading much.
Now - You don't have to feel bad anymore :D
Good to know that.
Yep ^^
Myunghan was never gay from the first place right? I mean yes, he was super attached to the imaginary red haired dude because of his psychological imbalance at that point and both of them were really close, but it's not like he had any romantic feelings toward him. So why is Myunghan acting so worked up over thinking that another male friend might've stayed the night at his place and kept asking if anything weird happended? If he's straight and think of the red haired dude straight as well, isn't it pretty normal to stay overnight at a friend's place, on top that when they were drunk? What's the big deal? Myunghan seemed really relieved hearing that Sihoo didn't sleep at his place. Why? Or did I miss something? Someone care to explain?
Isn’t he in a way dating hyung ish? Not sure but there should be soMETHING going on between them so I don’t take Myunghan as straight
True. He's got that typical uke vibe who easily gets manipulated by the people around him...so...I guess that's why he felt so nervous...who knows..
Dumbest uke I've ever seen in my life for thinking of someone "cool" even after being raped and toyed around by the guy just before. Not to mention I wanna punch that seme (I think it's pointless saying how fucked up his mentality is, specially his point of views about gays that they're forbidden to have any male friends 'cause gay people only wants to get fucked by them, so just even talking is considered as flirting I mean like - wtf? Who are you to make the rules here when you yourself has just come to his life a few days ago? You fucker literally know nothing-)
And the uke, how should I say this, can I just punch him harder to shot some fuckin' sense inside that weak-airhead of his? When the seme said "Are you breaking up with me?", weren't you suppose to say "We were never in a relationship in the first place, you never loved me back" instead of "Yes I want to breakup with you" ? Like wtf is wrong with your replies man, get your facts right. I can't believe you still went to his house just because he told you so even after he just abused and raped you a while ago?
And even after five years, you motherfucker weak uke just used and betrayed a third person's feelings who genuinely loved you and respected you. Left him behind and went back to the rapist "lover" of your's who didn't even apologize to you nor felt a bit guilty for doing all those horrible things to you in the past till the end. God I just hate it when they use a third person's feelings to clean their own way out. The uke is just as worthless as the seme.
This entire manga was a nice joke, lol.
Tell us how much you really love the seme, sweetums. Every time you victim blame you pass off any responsibility the seme had onto the uke, after all. Oops. And if the uke hadn't shown up at his door that time he would have done something worse to the uke. Don't know how you couldn't figure out something that obvious and simple when he hung out with his friends and the seme raped him because of that showing he couldn't get away no matter what. Not being able to figure out something like that given that you at least have a choice, I wonder what that makes you by YOUR 'logic'. Yeah. What I thought. Dfba.
Lol first of all, clear your idea on "victim blaming" dude. Do you even know what that means?
I never said it was the uke's "fault" that he got raped or the uke "provoked or seduced" the seme to rape him. When people overlook the rapist's crime and holds the victim as if he "deserved" it, that is what called victim blaming.
I very well cleared what I felt 'bout the rapist seme. And just judged the uke for going back to his rapist "lover" while using a third person's feelings. And I know he very well deserves to be criticized for that. Sorry but despite of who the MCs are, I fail to act biased.
I know what my logics are and who makes more sense considering the upvotes and one downvote which clearly came from you.
Peace.
I was so disgusted by the seme he even left a foul after-taste in my mouth and I wrote is very clearly in my comment how much I despise him. But for some reason that totally went over your head and you reply me asking how much I love him like...lol I mean I'm at loss of words I don't even know how to react to that.
Agreed Sugakookie and the other seme was so much better for him.
I can't take one more death, I don't want any other innocent people die...god Sangwoo..die. Just die already.
I know many people might sympathy him because of his fucked up past (also he's the main character) but just so you know, no matter how many shitty experiences you've gone through in your life, that just doesn't give you any right to commit crime or kill human beings. Only one's family or close ones will understand how it feels to lose someone forever. It just haunts you down all your life. If you had lost your father/mother or sister, if they got ruthlessly murdered or vanished somewhere for the rest of their life, and then you finds out who's the cause behind it, believe me you woundn't want to know or give a single fuck 'bout what the criminal's perspective was or how shitty his past was. He'd just be a filthy criminal to you who took away someone close to your life.
Not only I want Sangwoo to die but also Bum as well, because he's just as psycho. Blinded in love, he also stayed quiet even after knowing and witnessing Sangwoo murdering people. He even had the chance to reveal everything to the police many times but, what did he do? Only if he had spoken the truth back then, all these murders afterwards could've been stopped. All these lives could've been saved. Goddamnit, just thinking bout it hurts my heart. When you stay quiet 'bout one's crime, that makes you just as criminal.
I know people might be bashing me after hating on both of the main characters of the series, but no matter how much shitty past author-san had given to both of them, their actions still would never be justified to me nor I'd ever sympathy them.
If they both wants to live together/die together, I want them to die together.
I don't know ... i totally agree with you ... if this happened in real life i would hate the criminal with all my herat and i would want him to pay about his crimes... but this is fiction ... and samgwoo has won our heart a little bit so... i can't decide what i really want for him ... do i want him to die ... do i want him to get arrested or do i want him to be with bum (happy if possible ) but i know this won't be how it ends ... and don't know what to choose either
I agree with you about sangwoo but I don't really think bum deserves to die. He is so deep in stockholm syndrome that he doesn't know up from down. He should at least get thrown in prison for life or maybe a psyche ward where he can't be harmed or harm others anymore.
Nobody has won my heart in this series tho lol. I'm pretty sure I want both of them to die. Both are psychological patients and either they need help (I wonder if they are still worth of receving help after taking away so many lives) or they need to die. Obviously it doesn't matter what I want because at the end of the day, it all depends on the author's decision. But you'know, we still give opinions even though it's pointless (￣∇￣")
And to be honest, from that point of view, this fiction is an absolute success (so far). It was good enough to make me feel this way. If we hate a character, that means the author wanted us to feel that way toward the person and wrote the character that way herself. So I gotta say none of her efforts went in vain.
True. But honestly, if someone close to me had been killed, and I find out another person was aware of the muder and also knew who the murderer was but still kept quiet even after having chances, I'd hate him just as much and would want him to die as well.
True. But honestly, if someone close to me had been killed, and I find out another person was aware of the muder and also knew who the murderer was but still kept quiet even after having chances, I'd hate him just as much and would want him to die as well.
Pretty sure everyone wouldn't feel the same way toward the one who kept quiet 'bout the murder, but god I'd go nuts. I wouldn't care what the witness's psychological condition was either. I'm not that strong to consider that far.
Kise can you please stop "I'm a man this" "I'm a man that" "Men were created to protect women" "Why didn't you hit me Daiki, I'm not a woman" and stuffs for god's sake? (Last two sentences reffers to another dj where Kise acted the same lol)
First of all, you don't know your own friggin' position. You're gay and in a relationship with Daiki, a "relationship". So it's obvious he's cheating on you why the fuck would you keep quiet 'bout something like this? What an idiot.
And god you're just a human, just like every women. You weren't born to protect anyone. Lol. Using " I'm a man" excuse to escape/solve any problem in your life is just.....lame.
THIS^^^^ I really don't understand why mangakas usually reinforce stereotypes in their story , I love Ogeretsu Tanaka's works but this mentality of her characters it's dangerous.
I know right? It's almost frustrating.
Same. I get that this mentality is common in a conservative culture. After all, it's definitely the mentality in my country. However, she reuses the same issues and arguments in every story sje makes and it's so frustrating that she does not even try to create a different one.
It's concerning because it's like she's having a slump as a creator. She's been doing this for what, years??? Like, I love her art and sometimes her story is good. But shit. The arguments and the way she tackles acceptance in her stories are so sudden and lackluster it does not help nor guide readers to understand the reasoning behind the characters actions.