Sugakookie February 18, 2019 6:07 pm

"Magical seme dick" cliche again. Lol the cringeeeeee (≧∀≦) They really exaggerate it a little bit too much ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
However, asolutely loved the intimacy though I've already read it many times in the raws. Never gets old haha :v

    Sugarcube February 18, 2019 9:46 pm

    Haha yeah especially the Jennifer-this-condom-is-too-small-bring a bigger-one part was really cringey..

    doxies February 19, 2019 1:52 am
    Haha yeah especially the Jennifer-this-condom-is-too-small-bring a bigger-one part was really cringey.. Sugarcube

    I mean McQueen is pretty much the porn king. Like ed said, maybe his popularity is due to the size of his dick (and lord knows the porn dudes tend to larger than average in general)

    Sugakookie February 19, 2019 2:51 am
    I mean McQueen is pretty much the porn king. Like ed said, maybe his popularity is due to the size of his dick (and lord knows the porn dudes tend to larger than average in general) doxies

    Actually, it's not only about this particular manhwa with this specific "Porn King" character. It's been 8 years I've been a fujioshi and have read atleast hundreds and hundreds of yaoi manga and mark my words, not a single one of them passed by without the Seme having this "Unimaginablely HUGE" lengthy dicks that leaves the other dude(uke) in absolute shock! That's why it's such a cliche to me, also a bit cringy (≧∀≦) I didn't mean any offense.

Sugakookie February 18, 2019 9:13 am

Am I the only one who wants the black haired dude and the other blonde dude (handsome-kun) to end up together? And ofc the black haired guy as the uke (oh my fuckin' god he's so unbearably ADORABLE I can't-)
Tbh, at this point I don't even care who he ends up with I just wanna see him as the bottom xxbgschj (≧∀≦)

Sugakookie February 19, 2019 8:49 am

Lol only 2 chapters in and I already hate one of the main characters (who's definitely gonna end up as the uke). He went through someone else's phone he just met minutes ago to secretly check out his girlfriend's pictures even though the guy himself refused to show it previously. Low enough? ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    YuzukiMikage February 17, 2019 3:18 pm

    Oh, what a cute little triggered snowflake ^.^

    Sugakookie February 17, 2019 3:24 pm
    Oh, what a cute little triggered snowflake ^.^ YuzukiMikage

    Yeah had my decent reasons. Don't worry it's just my opinion. You can read and love this manhwa, that's your taste.

    Sugakookie February 17, 2019 3:40 pm
    Oh, what a cute little triggered snowflake ^.^ YuzukiMikage

    Btw, the way you called "snowflake", that was fuckin' cute (≧∀≦) I've never heard anyone addressing someone a snowflake....it's really sweet. I think I just got a new nick name idea from you, thank you

    YuzukiMikage February 17, 2019 3:50 pm
    Btw, the way you called "snowflake", that was fuckin' cute (≧∀≦) I've never heard anyone addressing someone a snowflake....it's really sweet. I think I just got a new nick name idea from you, thank you Sugakookie

    Shit, now I feel bad for saying that

    But ok, we'll go with that :)

    Sugakookie February 17, 2019 4:00 pm
    Shit, now I feel bad for saying that But ok, we'll go with that :) YuzukiMikage

    Yep

    Vee February 18, 2019 10:01 pm

    I just finished reading it and hes really not like that and admits his mistakes later. He doesnt look down on women (what made u think of that?) And I didnt read a man like u for the same reasons u didnt like it so I understand. Give it another try! Hes not a perfect being but gets more likeable the more his character develops

    Sugakookie February 19, 2019 3:00 am
    I just finished reading it and hes really not like that and admits his mistakes later. He doesnt look down on women (what made u think of that?) And I didnt read a man like u for the same reasons u didnt like i... Vee

    Really?!! Omg thank you for letting me know I'll give it a try then.
    Btw, He says that in the very 1st chapter's page 5 - "Playing female characters is so easy. Spend a little money, doll them up, and pushover comes running." Tbh, at this point, I'm almost used to female shaming in yaoi stories but maybe I got a bit disappointed in this case 'cause I had my hopes high for this one. But anyways, thanks letting me know the story's worrh reading!

    Vee February 19, 2019 3:27 am
    Really?!! Omg thank you for letting me know I'll give it a try then. Btw, He says that in the very 1st chapter's page 5 - "Playing female characters is so easy. Spend a little money, doll them up, and pushover... Sugakookie

    Well hes saying that because fem game characters are really cute/hot and the games r mostly played by str8 males so the pushovers think that a cute girl is playing as a cute girl

    Sugakookie February 19, 2019 8:44 am
    Well hes saying that because fem game characters are really cute/hot and the games r mostly played by str8 males so the pushovers think that a cute girl is playing as a cute girl Vee

    Oh I see, I was wrong of him in this case then. I'll edit it. But that peeping in the phone's gallery incident truly pissed me off to death because I've experienced same thing once and that's the worst lol. However, as I've said, I'll give it a read now ^^

    Vee February 20, 2019 4:38 am
    Oh I see, I was wrong of him in this case then. I'll edit it. But that peeping in the phone's gallery incident truly pissed me off to death because I've experienced same thing once and that's the worst lol. How... Sugakookie

    Ya sometimes my friends do that and Im like wtf?! Of if they find it locked they clog my memory with 10000 selfies..well its just a select few and Ive expressed i dont appreciate it

Sugakookie February 17, 2019 11:43 am

Okay so Seme-kun, (considering your perspective), you really can't force a straight dude to turn gay and like you back just because you like him with all your heart. It's a matter of consent and sexuality. I know you're very much in love with him and have stated your confession clearly many times but, I think it was a very stupid choice to have sexual intercourse with the person without knowing his response back toward your feelings. Also there's no reason to tell him "you only have me now" cause he's not bound to accept your feelings just because you like him. It that's how it worked than one would have to accept all the confessions he receives in his lifetime (lol).

And 'bout Uke-kun, (considering his perspective), I can't really believe a grown up man like him can't even live by himself in a hotel without getting sick and had to come back to the seme's place within 4 days. I thought his resolve was strong enough and also pretty hurt from his ex-girlfriend's incident but meh. However, denying the seme's confession over and over again (that's pretty obvious 'cause he's straight), then suddenly getting jealous over the seme meeting other people doesn't make any fuckin' sense. There's also no need for you to think "he's only got you in this world". He kept getting swayed away by the seme's actions even though he's straight, uncertain of his own feelings yet didn't refuse to have sex with the seme (I'm pretty sure he's not that fragile that he can't protest). And if you didn't mind it, please response to the other party's confession first and make everything clear.

And comparing "smoochin"? Like if you liked the other dude's smoochin' better, you might've feelings for that dude? Okay, at this part, I can't even.


Okay lol why did I even analyzed it?
╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

Sugakookie February 17, 2019 10:31 am

I just started reading this manhwa and already got so bored. This is such a common plot like I literally read 3 similar stories this month. The seme and uke will be either actors or voice actors (on top of that, main protagonists). Then they'll be forced to live together or coincidentally such circumstance will appear where they'd have no other choice but to live together in order to "improve" their skills at their job. Then the seme will make seducing moves on the uke and suddenly the super straight tsundere uke be like "badump badump what is this?" and magically turn into gay ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
The artwork is so gorgeous....I really don't wanna drop this. Please tell me this manhwa has a decent story toward the end? :')

Sugakookie February 16, 2019 9:57 pm

Didn’t really like the plot. It's confusing and full of uncertain emotions more than necessary. Also sometimes super cringy. But I still look forward to finish reading it whole.

Sugakookie February 17, 2019 3:15 am

Sorry but no matter who the main characters are, I fail to act biased.
I hate both Ken and Kirara. And this plot is irritating on a whole new different level. Why?

Ken :

- Says he "hates" homos yet still going on recklessly making physical contact with the uke. The only response he gives while the uke resists is "Shut up".
Clearly says he doesn't like the uke yet gives fucked up logics when the uke asks legit quistions like why is he doing this if he doesn’t like homos, on top of that, doesn't have feelings for him? Everytime Ken's reponses were " You don't hate it do you" or "if it bothers you, let it bother you" and "you asked for it".

What the actual fuck?

The uke's so fuckin' backboneless that even after being treated this way, he was always the first one to approach Ken and Ken kept on ignoring him on first sight even though he was the one at fault and needed to give proper explanation for his actions. He didn't even deny it when the uke said " So you can do it with people you don't like too huh?"
And not to mention his indifferent behaviour even after playing with tons of girls feelings (it almost felt like the author tried to cover up or justify this fuckboy attitude of his by making the last girl make the bad guy but lol, that doesn't make any difference)

Just how irritating a character can get? It's possible that you might actually hate homos but now your own sexuality is being questioned so you're frustrated. But in that case, aren't you supposed to think things over and sort out your feelings for Kirara instead of making baseless physical contact with the uke?

Kirara :

- When he piercered his ears and gave that serious look, I seriously thought he was finally gonna try to get over Ken and start a new. But lol, only in looks. I know you're in love but god, don’t you have the slightest bit of self respect?

He kisses you but doesn’t give you any explanation why he does it, also admits he doesn't like you and hates homos. Yet how can you so shamelessly go on fanboying over him, approaching him first every fuckin' single time (when Ken acts like he doesn’t fucking care) , giving him yearning looks and "asking" him to suck your nipples?!! Like what?

I thought he's gonna get serious for real when he realized "oh so he's also just killing time with me" and Ken didn't deny that he can do it with people he doesn’t have feelings for but LOL, in my dreams. Kirara really surprises me at how backboneless one can be.

If it wasn't for the "finish it once you start it" habit, I wouldn’t have read it up untill now but yes, I'm dropping it. Just got mentally frustrated reading this, nothing else.

    Jss February 16, 2019 9:18 pm

    Altough I really love this manga and the pairing, I agree on 100%. When I read the part when Ken said "dont walk behind me, walk next to me" and Kirara got really happy I was like wtf, he's like an abused puppy who gets happy when his owner decides to throw him a rotten bone. It's really annoying because he's sincere and even a little rude with everyone (he even disrespects his own mom a lot, it makes me unconfortable), but he's a totally pushover towards Ken. And I hate when Ken tells him to shut up while being intimate, the ONLY good thing about it is when you think about the situation in a sexy way (lol).
    I love kid Ken. My heart melted when Kirara remembered when they were kids and a suspicious man was talking to him and Ken appeared shouting his name out with a serious and worried face, and them told him to walk together after school to protect him. I hope the actual Ken comes back to his past self.

    Jss February 16, 2019 9:35 pm
    Altough I really love this manga and the pairing, I agree on 100%. When I read the part when Ken said "dont walk behind me, walk next to me" and Kirara got really happy I was like wtf, he's like an abused puppy... Jss

    Ohhh and about the plot, I really hate when a story is mostly about a misunderstood AND the reader KNOWS about it and keeps on cheering on the characters to solve it, but the characters keep on not using their heads and on making stupid choices, and the story goes dragging on and on even though the misunderstanding is not that complex.
    In this case, the seme is like "He likes my brother and I hate it" and the uke is so "I like him but he hates gays and he doesn't like me, he's like killing time with me too" BUT they keep on kissing and making out like crazy. What are they then? Kissing friends? The worst is when Kirara is like "he hates gays but we kiss a lot, I cant understaaaaand" :p

    Sugakookie February 16, 2019 10:20 pm
    Ohhh and about the plot, I really hate when a story is mostly about a misunderstood AND the reader KNOWS about it and keeps on cheering on the characters to solve it, but the characters keep on not using their ... Jss

    Oh god I just couldn’t agree more, you just said my mind.
    Tbh, I wanted to state it in my comment how the uke keeps on calling his mom an "old hag" even while having a totally normal conversation as if he has given his mother a nick name like wtf?

    And he's so annoyingly clingy I can not. It's not like I hate characters who tends to persue their love on a serious note but dude, you gotta stop to a certain level because you gotta have respect for yourself.
    Kirara is basically - yeah i know you hate homos and you don't like me, play with people's feelings to kill time, kiss me and suddenly get all forceful and then blame it all on me that i asked for it but please, can i get your number even though you refused? please please please? and i know you're supposed to give me an explanation for your actions and reflect on it but instead you'll definitely ignore me in the morning but who cares, i will always say hi to you first and go along with it.


    Seriously dude, when Kirara gave that hurt expression and said "So you can do it with people you don't like too, huh?" and Ken stayed silent, I thought this was it. Finally some character development. But lol jokes on me.
    The next morning Kirara to Ken : Sup?!
    Me : (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    Jss February 16, 2019 11:38 pm
    Oh god I just couldn’t agree more, you just said my mind. Tbh, I wanted to state it in my comment how the uke keeps on calling his mom an "old hag" even while having a totally normal conversation as if he has... Sugakookie

    Haha IKR, just a casual dick play on the other day, nothing much! (Kirara's face when he encounters him in the morning is priceless tho xD)
    I think the author wants us to keep in mind that Ken used to be very nice and Kirara is hopeful that the old Ken is still there so he endures everything.

    eldian February 17, 2019 12:34 am

    actually you're right but since it's the classic tsundere seme thing i can't even bring myself to find this kind of behaviors unusual anymore. and even though you're right it's just common yaoi logic that most of the readers don't even bother to complain about it. still i agree with you

    Sugakookie February 17, 2019 3:09 am
    actually you're right but since it's the classic tsundere seme thing i can't even bring myself to find this kind of behaviors unusual anymore. and even though you're right it's just common yaoi logic that most ... eldian

    I know but both of the characters pissed me off so much I needed to relieve it lol ( ̄∇ ̄")

    combatcat February 17, 2019 5:57 am

    To be fair they are in high school though and at an age where you haven't figured out what you want or who you are.
    Ken is probably having a hard time with his sexuality and everyone is young and stupid lol

    Sugakookie February 17, 2019 7:26 am
    To be fair they are in high school though and at an age where you haven't figured out what you want or who you are. Ken is probably having a hard time with his sexuality and everyone is young and stupid lol combatcat

    Well if you gonna judge their actions based on their age in a Yaoi manga, then none of these sexual stuffs and playing with people's feelings makes any sense in the first place. They are only 15. And in that case, everything can be forgiven as long as they're young doesn't matter if they actually reflect on it or not. Nothing left to analyze on a plot, everyone's young so they can go on doing whatever they want we can't really judge because they are all confused.
    Like I said, the characters aren't gonna change no matter how much I complain so I'm just stating my opinion on it just like everyone else does. And I've dropped it anyways so at this point, it doesn’t really matter.

Sugakookie February 15, 2019 5:03 pm

Someone gimme spoilers. I just started reading this but suddenly lost interest. Then again as I've started it already, my brain wants to finish it. Soneone tell me what happens in the future shortly. Also who tops and bottoms. Please ^^

    Kittenface18 February 16, 2019 5:32 pm

    I would suggest to just keep reading, even if you lost interest. It gets a lot better, trust me. Who tops and who bottoms should be obvious by at least the 5th chapter. I’m going to give you some spoilers, so anyone who doesn’t want that can turn away now (though these aren’t really spoilers). I don’t remember much from the first season since I mostly focus on the second one, but the two characters understand each other a lot. The confess scene is so pure at first, but then it takes a comedic turn and you’ll understand why in the future. The season second is the one I know the most about, but two people who absolutely can’t stand each other end up falling in love. It starts off as an accident, I think from the being drunk, but then it morphs into something truly beautiful. I highly suggest you keep going, even if you lost interest. It’ll be better to read it than to miss out on it. Sorry if I didn’t really give you “spoilers”, I don’t really like giving away key information because it’s a part of the story. I really hope you continue to read it (●'◡'●)ノ

    Sugakookie March 3, 2019 12:46 pm
    I would suggest to just keep reading, even if you lost interest. It gets a lot better, trust me. Who tops and who bottoms should be obvious by at least the 5th chapter. I’m going to give you some spoilers, so... Kittenface18

    Omo thanks! I'll definitely continue this one then (⌒▽⌒)

    Lovena March 17, 2019 8:35 am

    Pls read it. This is one of my all time favorite bl. It's good. Great. Trust me.

Sugakookie February 15, 2019 2:41 pm

Some cringy ass solid sentimental bullshit right there (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

Sugakookie February 14, 2019 4:03 am

I've only read upto chapter 11.
I don't really like these sort of stories. Very young boys, totally unclear 'bout each other's feelings and ofc without proper confession, going on having sex based on random logics thown all over without any genuine plot. Actually, these types of manhwa are basically written based on sex scenes and the plot comes after (or maybe never comes).
Should I continue? Does the story gets any better?

And if the "teaching" sex thingy started so that the uke can get better at having sex with that woman, shouldn't it be the other way around? The uke should be fucking the seme lol. This manhwa doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. And playing dumb at it's highest peak from both sides ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Lezerman February 13, 2019 6:35 pm

    It's sex sex sex, it doesn't get any different

    Mac February 22, 2019 7:50 pm

    Thought they were in college?

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