bystander's Topics (28)

i took it for a history thing at one time even in europe it was considered a blemish or a sign youd been out working outside which if you were rich well you wouldnt have as many chances to get them. historically freckles werent a good thing . what i find funny is that leopards (actually those are cheetah drawings) dont like spots...and yet...

mmm, I just took it as social norms there and accepted it. I just like how they made her look cuter tbh

actually, i retract that statement about the blonde girl acting more like a child. They're both as pathetic as each other.

but to some extent the blond is more of a victime than her black haired half sister who came out of nowhere and was accepted and how do they know if she was actually the king’s daughter and not someone else’s
she appeared out of nowhere and took everything from her and was accepted easily by her mother if it was a son i would understand maybe unless the mother would have killed him
from her title of first princess to her fiancée it’s a bit unfair
sure she has the worst temper and bullied her sister but who knows if the sister wasn’t acting and faking her personality just so she could be more powerful who knows

I agree with that, still think they're both pretty shitty tbh. honestly I think it was obvious she kinda hid her real personality when she had that final conversation with the blonde? Like people don't suddenly go from being quiet and non-confrontational to telling their past bully (and alleged half-sister) they will get their revenge and will make them bow to her. Seems a bit sus to me -- almost like she could have planed it..

So you're saying that if someone treated you like shit for no reason except being the daughter of another woman, you wouldn't want to have the last world the moment you'd gain the upper hand? Don't you think that maybe Frotsche didn't say anything for all that time because she didn't have anything that could have helped her situation?At the eyes of the others the fact that she's an illegitimate child is already damaging enough, what could she have said in her favor? So i don't think it's that strange that after becoming the queen of a much bigger kingdom she finally decided to speak up.And don't tell me that you wouldn't be bitter after being treated like that all your life. I agree that now she's being petty and childish but who wouldn't?

I think the lot of you read too much Isekai stories where the villain is actually the victim and FL is actually the bully.
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but frotsche took everything from stautsche the moment she was discovered
but since she is a bastard child how can you be so sure that she has actual royal blood running in her vains plus in nobles eyes bastards are actually children that are shunned
and usually everyone hide their game until an opportunity to surpass their bully comes along

but you have to admit authors love to exaggerate the villains stupidness and them being bully when they are victims themselves
plus we can all agree that the actual female lead of the story is most of the time a hypocrite

That doesn't make any sense.First of all, what exactly did she steal from stautsche?It's not like her becoming princess forbid Stautsche of something. She still had her position and all and it's not like her mother stopped loving her. And it's not like she decided to suddenly barge in into the castle and said to the king "im your daughter!Make me a princess!" ". It was the king that brought her in, so all this thing you're saying about not being his daughter doesn't make sense. Why would he bring a stranger child into the castle?

Oh, and she didn't steal her fianceé. He was the one to fall in love with her, without her doing anything but standing there! He was the one to break the engagement. So why blame her? And honestly, "victim"? Don't make me laugh. She's a bitch to everyone, she hits her servants. I know that in that era there were probably many nobles that did the same thing but does that excuse her?

She didn't come out of nowhere ...she was born before the blond girls mother got married....snd Blondie abused her... made her life a living hell....older sister just took advantage of the fact that he fell in love with her... and used it to escape the torment Blondie placed on her.....

I mean what really got me suspicious was her expression. It didn't look like someone who had been scared of their abuser, more like someone absolutely hell-bent on revenge than anything. A bit more than just being petty and childish. I honestly think its quite possible she isn't the best of persons (which makes sense regarding her situation) and will happily use her newfound status to her advantage. Also, the fact she suddenly spills the beans about the abuse to her abuser's fiance who she's only known for a few days? Like I'm sure there have been other foreign dignitaries in the past etc who have visited and by no means do Frotsche seemed to be in love with this prince so it does come off as suspicious...

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that is definitely a big mistake in the manga and I was like eh when I saw they said anorexia instead of bulimia lol people are really misinformed and also who the fuck would say that to another person in front of the sick person, like it's just a cold or something lol

I am sure that that bulimia. I'm surprised too

I'm surprised too. I am sure that that is bulimia

Idk for sure but this did come up in another manga before. And someone said it was the same or a type of anorexia?

You know we really cant say the manga got it wrong because its a different language. Unless you know that language.

For example, i called my dad one time because i needed his help to translate the word for back spasm. For a patient/dr and my dad just said back pain. He said americans have words for everything, but in our language we just say back pain.

Another example: in vietnamese theres no phrases for "good morning"

Some language dont translate well, but we cant assume they are wrong.

maybe it is considered anorexia in other countries because the end result is the same if you vomit everything. Then that can also mean you are starving like anorexia cuz u lack food.

So because ive seen this mix up before, im assuming some language may consider it the same. Then as a translater, its tricky to translate things excatly vs improvised.

Idk for sure but this did come up in another manga before. And someone said it was the same or a type of anorexia?

You know we really cant say the manga got it wrong because its a different language. Unless you know that language.

For example, i called my dad one time because i needed his help to translate the word for back spasm. For a patient/dr and my dad just said back pain. He said americans have words for everything, but in our language we just say back pain.

Another example: in vietnamese theres no phrases for "good morning"

Some language dont translate well, but we cant assume they are wrong.

maybe it is considered anorexia in other countries because the end result is the same if you vomit everything. Then that can also mean you are starving like anorexia cuz u lack food.

So because ive seen this mix up before, im assuming some language may consider it the same. Then as a translater, its tricky to translate things excatly vs improvised.

both are official medical conditions, so I don't think it's that, even though you have a valid point considering translations. Rather than wrong translation, I think the mistake is in the original, since many people are not informed, so maybe the mangaka put it there because she does not know the difference/it was just a mistake or she wanted to illustrate, how normal people confuse both.

One thing I do have to note is that you can have anorexia combined with binges and purging, it is a specific subtype. What makes it different is the focus on still wanting get extremely skinny, while Bulimic is more of a reaction towards the binges. You also have purging disorder, which is when you don't have binges or want to be extremely skinny, but you don't want to gain either. Right now I would see he is bulimic since it is not clear yet whether he wants to extremely underweight, but people can switch between being anorexic or bulimic.

Bulimic people are also more often than not actually overweight, which barely is shown in media.

I still disagree with you. (Sorry just talking as debate not trying to sound like a dick or a jerk. Just playing devils advacant)

I mean yes i could be wrong but be cause i know 2 langues i know not everything will translate word for word well.

So my beef is language and culture is still language. Just because its a medical thing here doent mean its the same everywhere else. Also think about about it. One we dont know the language well but it apears several times in different mangas. Then you are are assuming they all are wrong? When these medical conditions are very common that even teenagers can tell them apart? Thats almost equivalent to saying that japanese person is dumb and didnt do thier homework.

But also the most likey the translater knows thw difference between anorexia and bulimia (most likely) why didnt they change it? Thats another question. We arent reading this in japanese so did it really say that? Because dont forget we are reading it in english not japanese.

Just to note:
I think a few years ago japan changed thier term for schizophrenia. Because the the term they used was "split personality" and that was deemed rude.

Also from what i understand if you are dying of an illness i (sometimes?) but i was told the dr wont tell the patients for some reasons.

Thia culture is based around not offending ppl. They have different medical practice and idk about thier medical terms but im sure most of us dont since we are all reading translations.

Sorry just my opinion. Yes i could be wrong but food for thought

yeah, I get that, I speak 5 languages and I know that not everything translates the same, but these are scientific and correct terms (not terms used by the folk). They are universal, otherwise PROFESSIONALS all over the world would not know what the other one is talking about. What I intended to say is that ORDINARY people in japan may use the same term for both, so that is why they put it in the manga, but that does not change the fact that it's the wrong term, since these are two different things. It's not like in japan they can be the same, if they are two different diseases lol I hope I don't sound offensive, I just wanted to explain what I wanted to say. There is sometimes a difference, what people call something and the actually right term. It is the same as people labelling everything pedophilia, when there are actually pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia.

Lol key word debate :)

Still you are assuming just became its a certain way in your culture doesnt mean its the same every where else. English stantard medical terminology is only standards in english countries. Its not the standards for all over the world. Even if it is established and well known in english.

Language is still lanuage and culture is still culture. Medical terms is still a word. Yes its 2 medical condition. Like a person has stated sometimes when you have have bulimia you may also have anorexia. That is a possible reason.

I get what you mean when general puplic normally use terms wrong like nationality vs ethnicity. Idk about Australia or england but i do know Americans always use nationality for ethnicity and thats incorrect, but because i know the lanuage. I know its wrong. However With jp we are both blind. We can only speculate.

Yes in that sense a word can be use incorrectly. But before assuming. We dont know the actual word use or what connotation it has. It could possibly be a vague word that encompasses the 2. Also you said yourself. If the general puplic uses the word interchangeably or if it can mean both. Then its not wrong, but they could be using it wrong. But if its a vague term or if it means 2. Its when it was translated they didn't use the correct one.

Ps. One thing i hated about japan/japanese ( l love japan/Japanese . Just what fustrates/confuses me) the culture and lanuage is very very vague. Like a whole sentence can be said with one word. Also alot is emplied. Before i went to japan i have to learn whats acceptable and whats not. I had a lot of wtf momments. Like that dr thing. Id be pissed if the dr didn't tell me i was dying. But who knows maybe times have changed.

Lol one funny/ wtf momment.
American guy: oh do you have a cat?
Jp guy: possibly passed ( maybe, it may have died)
American guy: *thinking wtf is it dead or not. It cant be both*
The american guy learns jp ppl dont like to be upfront. They prefer to be vague to avoid conflicts.

But this is common. Americans are pretty straight to the point jp ppl are not. Jp is very vague lanuage and a lot are emplied. They perfur to omit thing rather than say it in fear of offending someone.


Anyway to be honest we can speculate and debate, but we wont really know or grasp the reasons or answers unless we master the lanuage. Cuz in japan words can have emotional conotations.

Lol key word debate :)

Still you are assuming just became its a certain way in your culture doesnt mean its the same every where else. English stantard medical terminology is only standards in english countries. Its not the standards for all over the world. Even if it is established and well known in english.

Language is still lanuage and culture is still culture. Medical terms is still a word. Yes its 2 medical condition. Like a person has stated sometimes when you have have bulimia you may also have anorexia. That is a possible reason.

I get what you mean when general puplic normally use terms wrong like nationality vs ethnicity. Idk about Australia or england but i do know Americans always use nationality for ethnicity and thats incorrect, but because i know the lanuage. I know its wrong. However With jp we are both blind. We can only speculate.

Yes in that sense a word can be use incorrectly. But before assuming. We dont know the actual word use or what connotation it has. It could possibly be a vague word that encompasses the 2. Also you said yourself. If the general puplic uses the word interchangeably or if it can mean both. Then its not wrong, but they could be using it wrong. But if its a vague term or if it means 2. Its when it was translated they didn't use the correct one.

Ps. One thing i hated about japan/japanese ( l love japan/Japanese . Just what fustrates/confuses me) the culture and lanuage is very very vague. Like a whole sentence can be said with one word. Also alot is emplied. Before i went to japan i have to learn whats acceptable and whats not. I had a lot of wtf momments. Like that dr thing. Id be pissed if the dr didn't tell me i was dying. But who knows maybe times have changed.

Lol one funny/ wtf momment.
American guy: oh do you have a cat?
Jp guy: possibly passed ( maybe, it may have died)
American guy: *thinking wtf is it dead or not. It cant be both*
The american guy learns jp ppl dont like to be upfront. They prefer to be vague to avoid conflicts.

But this is common. Americans are pretty straight to the point jp ppl are not. Jp is very vague lanuage and a lot are emplied. They perfur to omit thing rather than say it in fear of offending someone.


Anyway to be honest we can speculate and debate, but we wont really know or grasp the reasons or answers unless we master the lanuage. Cuz in japan words can have emotional conotations.

Damn this is the most respectful debate I’ve seen in this website (⌒▽⌒)

The answer to both is simple.
They're Korean, and in Korea and Most of Asia it's considered taboo to be Gay or Lesbian and brings dishonor on your family and yourself because you can't propagate children to give to society, and since their all more communal, it means that there will be less people to join workforce, less ways to make s name for you family, which means more shame, as more people makes the community stronger, which makes the country also stronger.

It's not a concept alot of the rest of the world has, so it's difficult for most people to grasp unless you've been exposed to it for an extended period of time.

As for the Rumour Mill stuff. It is very common in Asia to have s very Harsh rumour mill flying around during high school, as the tact that they are supposed to have when older(as most of their societies are based around a keepyour thoughts to yourself unless you need to speak out something model, along with a 'insult others while maintaining the high geound/gracefully insulting others' type way to Express ones opinions, which develops as they are more cemented into society after high school and usually solidifies around college or temp work, and usually why 'yankee/ganster/punk' behaviour is commonly shown in series to be from mostly drop outs of either college or high school types) is not there as of yet, so instead of doing so in hushed corners, it tends to be done more in a shaming mannerism such as would happen at family gatherings as they all think of themselves as a community in the schools, meaning closer relations to what a family is seen as, or a group of extremely close friends.

I'm not sure if I stated as much as you needed for these explanations to make full sense, however it is late and I need to sleep, so please excuse me for now.

"Why do people care so much about if a guy is gay or not?.....it's 2018 and the teenagers are heavily influence by western media and opinions so why do they make a big deal about such a thing?" Its 2018...and yet why do i see gay kids killing themselves cuz they got bullied? Just cuz lots of people nowadays "agree" tht your gender or whtever doesnt matter in a relationship doesnt mean everyone in the entire world agrees w it. Teenagers are influenced by western media sure...but how about adults? Most adults are still stuck in the traditional way of thinking tht a dude can only end up and marry a girl. Why do people care so much about if a guy is gay? Uhh...duh it's cuz lots of people still think tht liking someone the same sex as u is "abnormal". So wht if people talking about the rumor aren't close w them? They'll still care. Why? Cuz they're afraid tht it'll spread and their parents and relatives fill find out. They're scared they're gonna get judged.
So mangas are making a big deal out of it cuz obv it's still fucking happening.

"I can say for a fact when there was crap going around about my friend being bi that I never once thought 'What if she likes me? How disgusting' and ignored her. If anything, I felt more hurt about the fact that she didn't share it with me and instead with someone who wasn't as close" just a question....did u ever realize how shitty your friend mustve felt when the rumor got out??? I get why you're concerned about why she didnt tell u first...u wnna be there for her and say shit like "dont listen to them"....it comforts them sure...but it's not everytime tht it works...maybe first figure out why she didnt tell u. Soemtimes...people focus more on wht others thinks thtn wht their friend thinks.

As for the gossip shit....again...mangas are just emphasizing how scary it is for someone to know about your deepest secret. Wht if people find out my deepest secret? They'll syrely think differently of me...thts wht they're focus on cuz thts wht theyre scared of. And again...like the other person said...people in asia are terrible at gossiping. They will judge u in anyways they can. Ik cuz thts wht i experience when i was in my home country and thts still wht i hear and see now.

Sry if the first part seems harsh......You're a good person for thinking tht people shouldtn care about wht other's sexual orientation is..but maybe try and see how it rly is in real life and whts spreading around online. Not everyone has the mindset of "oh idk them so idc". Also...western media aint tht acceptable about gay people either...

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