I'll wait to see what Inwoo thinks. it's Jiho's choice to quit his job and accept the potential consequences of it, but if the person he's doing this for sees it as jiho coddling him or completely misunderstanding the problem, then this arrangement won't go through smoothly.
let's wait for them to reach an understanding
? I was skeptical about rereading this cuz everyone keep regretting it but it's fine? there's issues in it but it's mostly about the handling of mental illnesses and the lack of professional help given to the main cast. "the power of love" cliche doesn't do well went it comes to resolving mental health issues
it was underwhelming, decent but could have been a lot better if it wasn't so fast paced and took its time with characterization
im back at it again, re-reading one of the five-star classics of BL
felt like the author set the stakes too high but couldn't find a way to properly resolve them in time or had enough chapters to dedicate to a proper ending. it was a good premise but sorta wen fell flat
i spent the last 4 days catching up to the raws and slept regularly till 4am so i just wanna say a /FEW/ things:
FUCK THE DUANMU FAMILY
FUCK THE SITU FAMILY
FUCK THE SHENLONG FAMILY
FUCK THE OUYANG FAMILY
FUCK SEN PHARMACEUTICAL
FUCK THE ZHIREN HOUSE
Qin family, you raised Qin Shiyao so game recognizes game
I wish Jinghua and Xi have a HE!! this deserves more overseas recognition!!! they're codependent lovers your honor!!! they had (implied) sex inside a metaphysical mind space!!!! they can't LIVE without each other!!! they are each other's GODS!!! THEY MET FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN XI WAS STILL IN HIS MOTHERS WOMB!!!!
i am very normal about this in a chill and idgaf kinda way
IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THIS IMPLIED SEX CH PLS TELL MEEEE I CANT FIND IT
it's definitely NOT confirmed but who says we can't dream??!?
spoiler chs below
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it's in s4 when jinghua enters xi's "sea of the soul" chs456-459 then a snippet is seen again in a panel from ch462
AGIIIIIIII BAOBEIIII BABYYY BEBECITOOO BEBIIIIII (づ￣ ³￣)づ !!!
Me
they're both assholes and cross each other's boundaries OML. does consensual sex mean nothing to them?
To everyone just now disappointed because of this chapter, I'd like you to refer back to the start of the story when Leo fucked JJ and left him there before the reward ceremony. One of JJ's reasons for breaking up was that Leo just wanted sex whenever he wanted (Chapter 7), regardless of what JJ felt about it. Is that an excuse for JJ to rape him? Absolutely not, fuck JJ.
Also, in this chapter, we learned from Leo that JJ hates outdoor sex. Que back to Chapter 1. In fiction, this can be regarded as "dubious consent." If it's not a yes, then it's definitely a NO. In the end, dubious consent is still rape. Leo has also coerced JJ to have sex with him. Fuck Leo, too.
I am not defending JJ's actions nor justifying him. Both Leo and JJ disrespected each other's boundaries and from the start, this was not a healthy relationship. If your partner pressures you to have sex whenever they want and won't understand the basic concept of consent, DUMP THEIR ASS and REPORT THEM. What JJ did here is fucking disgusting.
Omg. I just realized this now.
THANK YOU!!!!!
You are literally the only person I've seen who pointed out the parallels of this chapter and chapter 1. If this scene is dub-con then that one is too cause JJ wasn't into it and tried getting Leo to stop but he placed his hand over his month and continued riding him like he was his personal dildo. Then he also came on the dude and left him with his dick out to clean up the mess... just like what JJ did this chapter.
Yeah JJ was wrong for taking out his frustrations on Leo through angry, rough sex. But the vitriol being aimed at JJ while simultaneously letting Leo off the hook is mad stupid, I started trolling them.
At first I thought Leo toxic and JJ needed to communicate more but now they're just BOTH toxic and both need to work on themselves ALONE. I doubt the author is gonna go that route cause they typically don't flesh out these kinds of stories but we'll see
spoilers!!! I read up to the most recent chapter (30) and I think I'm starting to understand why ML decided to abduct the MC:
apparently the ML witnessed MC breaking up with one of his gfs (shown in MCs perspective in the start, then MLs perspective on the rooftop)
ML must've pieced together how much of a jerk and cold hearted MC (egotistical too) really was. not to mention, ML is friends with (I think) MC's sister (dooyoung?) and we know that MCs sister hates him because he is favored more than her (gender norms) in the family, he even took away the money for her college funds after pleading with his parents (cuz he kept failling to get into university and depleted his funds ig)
MCs sister doesn't disguise how much she dislikes her brother, not even bothering to file a missing person request that MCs only friend Jinsoo begged her to do. MC doesn't call her at all n vice versa. ML is close to the sister so it's safe to assume he knows how much of a shitty and selfish brother MC is too.
ML was brought up with a lot of love around him. his mother and brother, his nanny, and babysitter. he was coddled a lot. In one scene with his babysitter, he asks her to stay with him because if she loves him, then the thought of leaving him shouldn't even cross her mind (that's my assumption).
when he gets a girlfriend in high school, he willingly follows her demand to not hang out or talk to other girls, he agrees. his friend sees it as him being a fool in love, but there's more to it. though it's a short relationship, we see that ML is perfectly happy following the demands of his partner, the notion of killing someone if his partner asked is definitely something he seems willing to do.
from his childhood, I can guess he's someone who idealizes love and can devote himself to his lover. however, just as he is willing to do these things for them, he also expects them to be loyal and only think of him. leaving him should never be considered. (hence why he asks MC, "Do u love me?" in the beginning of the story and why he continually tests and punishes MC for attempting to leave him.
now we get two characters. one who pushes away his partners and cares for no one but himself, and the other who has unrealistic demands for love and believes in reciprocity. ML is definitely crazy and he likes a challenge. I think he chose MC because he wanted to mould this seemingly selfish person into a partner who would never leave him. it could also be that he wants to punish the selfish MC to become someone desperate for love, given the MCs past records of failed relationships. it doesn't help that MC is also ridiculously handsome and aloof
as for whether or not the ML actually loves to MC, I think he absolutely doesn't. I don't think he loved his past partners, he just romanticizes the idea of love and wholehearted devotion (to him)
I should be writing an academic paper and instead I wrote this oh my lawdd
Who is MC and who is ML btw lol
ohh MC is Jooheon the black haired one and ML is Bitchan the blond kidnapper
I see, you know we usually refer to seme as ML and uke as MC that's why I got confused. Thank you for the explanation.♡
no problem! i dont like to conflate the seme/uke terms with the mc/ml roles because i think its problematic. i consider jooheon to be the MC because he's the one whose events we follow for most of the story and we also look into more of his emotions/thoughts than bitchan. in any case, here's to hoping the eng tl catches up to the raws~
Wait this is an extremely coherent and well rounded, perfectly captured essay on Bitchan's psyche, your professors must love you. Bitchan as a character kinda different from the usual flavor of 'obsessive psychos' that populate the bl tag simply because he's not really obsessed with the mc as a person but rather, he's obsessed with his idea of perfect love and devotion.
Also, you were able to access chap 30 and 31?? My bomtoon account is malfunctioning idk and I only read up chap 29 and I've been agonizing because this manhwa has become my new personality and obsession and I desperately need a buddy I can talk/yap essays about this with srsly.
lolol if only i could give half the analytical mindset i give to bl to my academic papers >_<
you put it quite succinctly, i agree w u completely that his obsession is toward an ideal rather than a specific person (for now?) also, i read the spanish raws u provided in a previous topic then google translated just ch30 on a kr raws site, i didnt even know ch31 was out yet
omg send me a msg n i'll hear you out 100% i have a lot of NORMAL thoughts about this pairing and need to know what other ppl think about them!!
Omg if you have the link to the kr raws, send me pls, i just can't concentrate on physics cuz i keep thinking of them i need to get this out of my system
Also, as for exchanging detailed presentations (yapping) with eo, let's be moots if you have twitter! My @ is fnkjyongtory