Anais_cheonsa's Topics (50)

i feel like that’s not the point, i don’t think he was saying it’s okay when the villains do it since it’s expected of them, i think he was trying to say that the thing people resent villains for is also done by heroes. like what makes u think a normal citizen life is worth more than a villain’s one? in the end they are both the same, both human beings, and if someone kills another one, regardless of the reason, it should be punished since that’s a terrible thing to do

I have to agree. Toga herself is not sorry. She doesn't kill because of her past, she said as much. She kills because she wants to and is only angry people try to shame her for urges she considers normal.

THIS!!

Omg Yes I 100% agree with you on this!!!

Do you not know Toga backstory. Her parents were the typical Asian parents. They gave her a home and an education. She had friends. But her quirk appeared when she was a kid after she killed birds. Instead of giving treatments for killing birds. They pressured her to have a normal quirk. She went crazy about it. This becoming a serial killer. It's people like you that are faulty. Toga shouldn't be cheered for but she shouldn't be boo. She's a victim of a society she wants to change the society thus League of Villains.

Honestly tho

Calm down tbh she is a fictive character-
You can like a fictive character and not agree with what he/she did too

I haven't seen ppl justify Toga's actions . . . I mean really, what's to justify? . . . but whatever . . . they probably do . . . Hey there are people that justify Mineta's harassment and general repulsiveness as him just being like any horny human.

But you're really bringing BLM into this rant about Toga? This is so left field I can only assume someone Black told you you should feel empathy for Toga so now this is a reflection on the BLM movement. I'm going out on a limb here and assume whoever you spoke to doesn't consider the actions of a Japanese comic book character in a fantasy world (that doesn't even reflect normal society) equivalent to the real life killings of innocent people.

Im not justifying mineta's harassment but tbh 99% of the my hero fandom is just as horny as he is and do shit like armpit sex and shit like that but thwn hate him, but when it comes to toga, which is a lowkey cannibal necrophile, they seem to let it slide and its all bc she is cute, if she was ugly like mineta everyone would've hated her.

And why do you assume that someone black told me that only bc i took BLM as an example? I took it bc everyone seem to fight for justice of innocent people being killed but then hype up toga and be horny for her saying things like "she was abandoned" shich is NOT true bc her parents still took care for her and she still had friends. I just took it as an example to point how they are being hypocrites

Ok but Toga is fiction and BLM is reality ┗( T﹏T )┛you can't compare them

I agree and disagree. I agree that Toga's actions shouldn't be justified. She kills people, for fun. That's just sick, and weird. But we all have to remember that they're fictional characters. They're not real and they shouldn't be compared to real life situations. Their world has different rules than ours, I mean there's literally a person with engines in their freaking legs!!

I regard Toga as a interesting character. I'm NOT saying that her actions should be justified. I'm NOT saying that I think it's interesting to see her kill people. I'm saying her story and her character itself, without the killing, is interesting.

Again, they're fictional characters and people should like these characters without having to keep it to themselves. If people want to like Toga then let them like Toga. It's not as if people feel sympathy for a murderer and all of a sudden they're a bad person.

What I'm trying to say is, let's just read the story and get more info. If people want to like Toga, let them. If people want to hate Toga, let them. If people just want to read the story cause they enjoy it and don't have an opinion on any of the characters, let them.

(Sorry if this sounds rude, it shouldn't sound rude, I'm trying to go for a neutral opinion)

She can be an interesting character? I think but she is just too much and everyone are too hyped over her like she is extravagant and unique, she is as messed up in her small brain as muscular yet no one is getting hyped over him. I knew her character way before i watched the show and thought to myself that yeah she may be a villain but maybe she's gonna be cool one, but then she made her appearance in the training camp and i was just disgustingly uncomfortable like... The orgasm over thinking about sucking someone's blood dead and the face she made... Since then i was just not blind by her cuteness and saw right through her. And the thing is that people tell me that i support child abuse bc i think that overhaul is a well written villain but still simp for toga, who is lowkey also a child abuse. So like... Its the hypocricy of the people bc of age a looks that haunts me and just sad

Yes, she's an interesting character. Yes, those things you mentioned are creepy, disgusting and weird. But telling people to not simp over someone, is like hitting a hornet's nest and telling them to "fvck off" when they come for you. It's impossible. Yes,

Sorry, was about to type something else but then accidentally hit the send button.

You do you. I do me. I don't want to get into an argument, especially when everyone is already pissed with this whole 2020 thing. It will just make me sad.

You make a lot of great points and I agree with you. But, a lot of people won't. Just saying.

Anyways! I hope your safe and have a nice evening/morning/night/noon/afternoon!!
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I don't tell them not to simp, i like chisaki he is also a villain. But i tell them not to be hypocritical. Imagine someone beating the shit out of you, but when you hit them once back everyone immediately hates you. I know the comparison isn't good but its just that... People love toga altho her actions but shit on other characters and PEOPLE that likes characters that has done nothing wrong. They don't care that toga killed people and TORTURED them while doing so having sexual orgasm but shit on bakugou on something he did when he was 15, stupid and insecure, they can NOT like him but its just funnily stupid how these people justify her cuz she is cute but shit on a kid that tries to atone his actions

You do realize that one of her closest friend was killed right? An underlying theme is this is analyzing if the heroes are the paragons on justice as they claim to be. All I am saying is don't think one dimensional and criticize a character just because she is a villain. She is still human and is processing thigs in a strange but different way so if people feel empathy for her, nothing is wrong with that.

toga is a complex character and i'm pretty sure her desire to drain the people she love's of blood is somehow related (or even caused) by her quirk. i agree with the other commenter that because she just lost a friend she is acting irrationally, and her interaction with ochako is supposed to make you question if heroes are truly acting as keepers of the peace when they make the decision to take someone's life. twice was undoubtedly in the wrong in the eyes of the law, but did he deserve to die ? heroes are not supposed to be executioners. you aren't supposed to love toga (she's a villain after all) but hating her glosses over her character depth entirely.

THIS COMMENT FINALLY. people who think villains and heroes are black and white don't see the true essence of superhero stories.

Ok and?? She and jin are murderers that kill people without any care and won't help to people in need. Jin literally passed by a person being robbed and was like "who gives a shit" toga literally killed someone mom, someone grandma, a human to FUCKING ASK A DUMB ASS QUESTION she could've lured ochaco without killing a person. Villains kill hundreds of people and no one cares but a hero can kill ONE villain and THE WHOLE FUCKING HERO SOCIETY is wrong and suddenly "villain are humans" bullshit. Don't get me wrong the hero society is not gold and pure but it makes more sense than "i kill people but everyone hates me for that, so I'll kill more people until i will be accepted" in real life a cop can kill a drug dealer and everyone is at his throat but when killers are out there ruining families and killing people suddenly everyone blind and deaf

Hawks killed Twice.. murder is murder no matter the intent because all human life is sacred. You should probably get over your own biases and develop your intellectual capacity to better able to comprehend certain complexities in the story. If you are unable to do so and will just stick with looking at the story as just “villain bad hero good” logic then I have nothing else to say to you.

Replying late but you’re exactly right. Batman and Joker is essentially a great example of this nuances between “bad guy good guy” and how not everything can be explained by using a linear metric

So this is what people mean by "do hundred good things and no one will care but do one bad and everyone will remember it forever"?. Yes murder is murder regardless but you don't see the whole picture- if everyone mad about hawks killing twice and have sympathy to toga over it, but don't hate any other villain for killing a lot of people its just a goddam hypocrisy. If you want to stick to "mirder is murder" and "justice to everyone" hero or villain everyone should hate all the one who killed whcih is 100% the villains and some heroes so suddenly saying "idk that toga is a psychopath stupid killer for her own entertainment" is like... Just shows my point over everything. And im not "hero good villain bad" i have villains that i love, but they need to have logic and something relatable to stick to, toga is literally nothing with no understandable personality and just cute face and THAT'S why everyone love her and it makes me hate her the more i see everyone like ":( poor toga no one understands why she wants to kill people" but then like "hawks bad he killed a psychopathic murderer >:(" so like wtf

What the hell are you talking about?? Toga is like on par with Twice and Shigaraki's conviction as villains. She may have done unforgivable shit but to call her "nothing with no understandable personality" makes me question whether you really understand the story or if you're just convinced every other villain became criminals just for the fun of it.

How does it feel to be told your quirk isn't normal and that it won't be accepted into society? That you're better off concealing your true self and blending in to social standards otherwise you'll embarrass your family name? Her family didn't even know her. Her "friends" saying she was a bright and nice girl only justifies the truth that Toga was so good at acting like she was okay that everyone else believed her. You clearly haven't gone through an identity crisis so I doubt you'll be able to comprehend that.

Don't get me wrong, I totally get what you're going for. "Humans are flawed but the choice to overcome those flaws or not is what draws a line between heroes and villains". Villains aren't justified, that's established. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be empathized. I agree; I also recommend you to get over your own biases and develop your intellectual capacity to better comprehend certain complexities in the story. If you don't see the essence Horikoshi-sensei is trying to portray with Toga then please read the story again.

YOU HAVE SINGLEHANDEDLY SAVED 2020 WITH YOUR RESPONSE

They won’t understand the complexities and underlying themes which occur throughout the story because they refuse to step outside of their clouded perspective and actually do some amount of ANALYSIS but umm anyways, let them grovel in their own pits of ignorance.

It is indeed feel wrong when people say that her quirk is not normal but her quirk is NOT NORMAL or at least acceptable? Like not in a bad way but in a safe way, her quirk requires human blood that's why she got crazy and addicted to human blood but the thing is that she is 1. Stupid i am sorry she gives these vibes and she let the wrath of magne being dead destroy the LOV victory over human society by NOT helping overhaul which shows she cannot see things and their consequences. 2. Hypocrite, i want to see someone in here killing a pregnant woman(for example) and then everyone will go apeshit to NOT let him be punished bc "he has childhood trauma" or "they are also a human". She kills people on right and left but then "heroes are baddie cuz they killed one villain >:(" ALSO she always gets pissy annoying when her life is in danger like?? Wh- she kills without remorse but then suddenly with curious life is something that matters? Well she's a villain whatevs3. Her reason for everyothing she does is "i want my life to be easier" - understandable "i live like every normal person by being a lowkey necrophile cannibal and i want to destroy society to continue live like that" - not understandable, acceptable or relateable. Like she said she joined bc of stain but then she literally says "i love stain he was covered in blood so i love him and want to stab him" you immediately see that its there's no one to talk to, her brain is covered with walls. 4. She has no fucking personality?? What IS her personality besides "i want to love and kill the things i love" and "i do
She is just another villain to just BE there and strain the plot but like everyone else could also be a fitting role or have a beetter story. People like her just bc she is cute if she had nose and eyes like mineta everyone would've agreed with me. The only thing that's cool about her is indeed a little of her madness that she has like dabi and her quirk THAT'S IT

Lmao whAT are you kidding that's not true? I understand, or at least try to, every character. I have villains that i like myself toga is just like.. Too much of a mess and nothing helpful she just.. She just THERE there's nothing relatable in her besides "no one accepts me" YOU need to get out of your "gen z 2020" acceptence lil box and not be all "oo boohoo no one understands you" and see WHY no one understands them. If you feel anything relatable to toga then... Im kinda scared? She is not the only one being unaccepted, even spinner is better character than her. You are probably one of these people who hate chisaki bc of child abuse but love toga tho she did way more terrible things, and like toga just bc she "looks cute

Gosh. I literally put the effor to make you understand "empathy" but I just wasted my time. You are not seeing the plot in a general standpoint and only allow your hate for a character's antics to define their value. It's sad that not everyone is able to appreciate the greyness of this manga. NONE of it is black and white. Good day to you.

I can't believe you say i think this manga is black and white when i say its not you put words in my mouth to look like an anti or a dumbass when in fact yall just the ones that don't understand basic human justice. Everyone fan over the villains but bash heroes and why? To make thwmselves look like one by showing love and empathy to serial killers? I said that i myself like villain amd hate some heroes but you still make me look like shit bc of a cannibal and necrophile wow just shows about IUR society. But yall won't show any mercy to a cop doing its job, talking about mercy alek. Have a great day also being a hypocrite

At this point, I have nothing else to say to you because you’re OBVIOUSLY dense and obtuse asf. Dont burst a brain cell trying to understand simple logic because that hasn’t been working well for you and it’s been days. Heal.

sure. whatever helps you sleep at night

Oh ok nvm i see that you are one of these people who hate mineta for being horny and wish him to die but still justify serial killers, yeah you are right maybe i should stop this nonsense bc you are obviously you are blind dense and can't handle the fact that im right over you liking her character for her looks. Don't worry people make mistakes its ok to admit it. Your malfunction is lowering people's IQ so you don't need to bother to answer bc i can already see that its like talking to a dead rat

the thing is at first she joined the league of villains because of stain. his ideology was that the hero institution should be taken down, that they put themselves all high and mighty when they are not that pure in reality. I guess what she's saying is a callback to that i guess, to the heroes being hypocrites. i'm curious to where this is going.

You are completely not wrong but not fully right. Stain hated the hero society bc there are fake heroes like endeavor that are just doing hero work but then act like shit and being abusive or that they are being hero for personal uses like revenge (iida) or money(ahem ahem ochako) and he wanted to change that. Toga said "i love stain he was beaten up and bleeding" she "loved" stain like the way she "love" midoriya and uraraka, bc she saw that they were beaten up and bleeding. Technically she has no real purpose like dabi or overhaul. She just... Exists and is cute that's it. Ppl ship her with ochaco, deku or bakugo but she'll just stab them, suck them dry out of blood and throw their corpses while turning to look like them, she doesn't know real love she doesn't understand it

Yeah true but I think her quirk took affect on her behavior. There was a scene of Toga where she was younger and ate a bird because her quirk developed so it is a possibility she changed because of her quirk.

dude...i was so dissapointed when they basically discarded overhaul. he was an even better villain than shigaraki for me

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Overhaul was such a good villain, in that I hate him for what he did to Eri, but that's also exactly why I like him as a villain. Plus I think his quirk is cool.

pRAISE THE LOOORDDDDDDDD Overhaul supremacy

RIGHT???!! His final fight with midoriya on the anime was so incredible...he seemed like a tank that would stop at nothing. And he actually was a leader to his people, he made the plans and was the head all the time. With shigaraki i always feel like he's been led more than being a proper leader and to me he is lacking some charisma. So overhaul is definitely the one i love to hate

Overhaul was the first villain i felt bad for for losing. The only reason he lost was bc deku is the MC and bc overhaul would torally wreck all might with his OP quirk and intelligence. His villainous intentions are so understandable, if i was a villain i would've try to do the same and people hate him over what happened to eri but then love shigaraki for killing kids like her nonstop, kidnapping and chasing (to kill) poor teenagers. If eri was a 30 yo women that was tortured the same amount of time (2 to 3 years) no one would've give a shit and everyone would've simp for overhaul. Its so sad horikoshi took him down only after one arc :(

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