A funny read overall, it deserves some extras (︶︿︶)
Each chapter it’s Mc being an idiot and acting in a dumb way, the story is driven by that... ╮(￣▽￣)╭ It would be fine if it was for comedy, but it’s either not (like in this chapter, it’s more for the drama) or is supposed to be funny but already got old (like for example the dreams, the authors used this card 2 times).
If Endeavor character were a women/ a mother and had the same development arc, no readers would be understanding and compassionate towards him. I saw mother characters doing less shits than him and they still get hated. The truth is as a society we are weak against the “paternal father” type: when a man shows a tiny bit of paternity and care for his kids, everyone is in awe and is willing to forgive his potential “mistakes”. And that’s the case here, Endeavor shows a bit of paternity so people don’t treat him objectively anymore.
Whereas if a woman is caring for her kids, we see it as normal. The bar is low for fathers, that’s just it.
You know what children protection does with cases like Endeavor IRL? They separate him from the kids. Yes, even if he is no violent anymore, because his presence constantly reminds the family of what he did, that’s how trauma works. If he is repenting, he can visit from time to time, but nothing more. If readers were objective towards Endeavor, they would want the same. Being overly compassionate with his character and emphasizing his POV downplays abuse.
You said everything I was thinking
That's because society is still contitioned to think men belong to work and women belong to the house.
If a mom is in charge of the kids she has to do an excellent job and more.
If a dad is in charge of the kids, well, we can't expect a lot! Can't we? He's a man!! Men are not designed to care for kids, even his own! Of course he will make mistakes, and we'll forgive them, because he's a man (even if he's not actually putting in the effort he's supposed to)
Exactly and that’s sad
My brother has a child he has seen exactly once in his life (by his own choice), I'm sure that if I (a woman) were to do the same I would be disinherited.
Oh please that’s bulshit.... did you see how many shit the author got because he tried to give Endeavor a redemption arc (he got death threat and people accused him of fantasizing domestic violence..) nobody blamed the mom who throat hot water at todoroki’s face and did nothing against her husband (...because poor her, right?)
And also in real live mothers/women get way with a lot of things man/father wouldn’t.
kids getting abuse by their mother, alienated from father, mother trying to screw over father with lawsuit and more... still the judges would still favor them over father . And those that get in jail don’t do long times like the mans.
I think you are not understanding what we're saying.
Thankfully, the world is changing bit by bit, so in some countries parents even have 50/50 when they divorce but in most of them this is not the case.
The reason is this, women are seen as natural caregivers and men as stoic workers (as in a job, not in parenting)
What happens here? That they're both getting a disservice! They're being put in this little square and told "don't move".
You're right, usually, when there's child abuse if it is from the mom is not taken that seriously because "mom knows best". And with dads it doesn't matter if daddy doesn't hug or praise or kiss their child right?? He's a man! Emotional abuse is not a thing because dads don't do "emotions" (sarcasm)
Usually exeptions to this rule are hits, because you can see it more clearly, and thankfully in some countries the law is being more fair in genders in that regard though there is still a long way to go. But speaking for the society (and not the law) how many times have you heard a woman forgave a man because "he regretted it"?
An example I can give you (in my own experience, there's A LOT of cultures in this world besides mine) is in cheating, when a guy cheats, is because "it's in their nature" and "they can't control themselves", the girlfriend forgives him. When the girl cheats "she's a slut" who "didn't deserve a good man when she had it" the boyfriend doesn't forgive. As everything with humans these are not rules (and cheating's not okay), but somehow society still expects this of us.
Another example, a friend of mine (woman) had just given birth (cesarean) and went with his husband and child to get the baby vaccinated. She gave the baby to the husband and was going to wait outside, because she was still very much hormonal and an emotional mess, she said "If the baby cries I'll start bawling right beside him".
What happened here? They didn't let the husband enter with the baby to the room to see the doctor. They said that it was the mom's duty to attend their child
As if the husband was not capable of it!!
In the end my friend entered while the husband was denied, she said she cried with the baby, did it kill them? No, but what was the need for that? She didn’t marry a man incapable of caring for a baby.
The Todoroki story this:
Shows a Rei that was supposed to be a mother (a sold one who was giving him children), a weak willed woman who's duty was to their child, and what happened? She broke, and then taken away because "poor her, there must be something very wrong with her IF SHE COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN", notice how when she was wasting away before that there was nothing wrong (the hospitalisation was after SHE hurt Shouto, why wasnt there an intervetion in that family before? Or even after Touya's "death"?)
It shows an Enji that was supposed to be a working father and instead of trying to fix things with touya he just decided to keep having children and told Rei she was supposed to take care of him, he just kept working and emotionally neglecting Touya (only speaking to him when he realised just how hurt he was getting). Even with good intentions those are the facts.
Women are more than cargivers, some of them don't have much maternal instincts, and men are more than working emotionless machines
That’s really well put, I relate to a lot of things you said.
(About the other comment:)
I just want to add that the mother in the Todoroki family is either portrayed as a crazy woman (early on in the story) or a victim (that’s still the case in the current timeline). And that’s a very flat and common way of portraying women or mothers. The mangaka isn’t more compassionate towards Rei than he is towards Endeavor: I admit that the mother is not portrayed as an abusor (anymore) but contrary to the father, she is not given a range of emotions and a lot of screen-time. I am not saying we need it, simply that it shows the author’s choice to make the readers empathize with the father. He considered that Endeavor is worthy of a character arc. So no, I don’t think Rei is favored
(Chapter 80) “Your abilities, it’s not even close to Ci Nian skills and you can’t even support the family”
“I only hope you will find a woman and give me a grandson”
I personally don’t care about the brother but tbh with a father like that anyone would become a scum
Lewellyn is such a mood
And he is shining in this chapter, all of his face expressions are drawn so nicely. I love how the artist makes smiles btw
Happy to see this licensed finally! It’s one of my favorite BL and I’m glad I can support the author ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
The downsides being that it’s going to take a loooong time to catch up ;-; and that lezhin is expensive compared to t@p@s (if it was t@p@s I could buy all the chapters but not with lezhin...;-;)
Anyway go show the author some love
I don’t really follow this story anymore but I scrolled through the latest chapters to see my boi Nadricka (⌒▽⌒) ML like him are so rare, he deserves the world :’)
My comment is basically filled with unpolar opinions (I just need to rant a bit hehe), so be aware of that before reading
-Concerning Nadricka, I saw a few comments that think he is too softie... Yet, I noticed that when it comes to regular harem (Male mc + girls) no one mind that some girls are “weak”. I don’t see why it shouldn’t be the same with this story, especially when the male concubines don’t have political power so there is no reason or need for them to be strong-willed. Therefore, I think Nadricka can be a softie as much as he wants
I know the comments are referring to their own preferences (they just prefer strong-willed that’s their taste). But, it’s still important to note that, in general, people who disregard male softie are often biased by toxic masculinity
-The author should calm down with the unexpected fall that don’t make much sense: FL falls from balcony, in a fountain... (and that happens quite closely in time). This is so stereotypical of shojo at this point I just roll my eyes
-the translation notes are the most entertaining thing about this manwha (ouch). Love their energy
I didn’t think that at the beginning of the story (I liked it quite a lot), I actually bought a lot of chapters, so please don’t come at me saying that I’m ungrateful to the author
If we read until now and still don’t hate me, I would like some recs with ML like Nadricka
The panel with the two Mc hugging while sleeping is sooooo cute
Btw, I just thought about a great potential development: I don’t really like the boss but it would be so interesting to see a “taming the beast” dynamic between him and Blond friend Basically Blond guy taming him hehe
Fr...I'd like that too.... (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I meant to like
I’m disappointed, I didn’t expect much because we all know the characters are going to get together despite Keith shittyness.... But still, the Mc is fickle like a weathercock: a few chapters earlier he hated Keith and wanted revenge and now he loves him and thinks everything is his own fault (which is the biggest surprise, what has the Mc done wrong lmao). The hate-to-love trope can work if it’s done well but in this case the change was so quick and Mc is emotionally inconsistent.
For those who see « character development » in the latest chapters, I’m sorry but you got the wrong definition.
For the record he did not fall out of love however he's angry towards Keith but doesn't mean he did not love him.
Yeah I know but realistically he should still be angry and when you are angry in general you don’t confess your love
He's life was on danger and even if yeonwoo was angry he still loves Keith so can't blame yeonwoo. Keith's current action is confusing for him since Keith was trying to show his love for yeonwoo although he did not say the magic word ILOVEU but he's showing it though his actions. Remember Keith was straight until yeonwoo came so he was really confuse and tries to deny yeonwoo's feeling towards him Hahaha. However I believe seme like Keith will treat their ukes like a queen and I'm looking forward to it. Perks of reading the novel but looking forwards to the manhua since it has a great and beautiful art style.
I’m simping, wicked phase trap Iruma is the best