"It feels like shit is moving in and out"... In my whole entire career of being a professional fujoshi, I've never laughed so hard in a smut scene than this moment. Iconic.
I mean- I still don't like Taeho, he is portraying a type of person who is nowhere near to be a good guy or in this case a hero, but- I think I get him? Taeho is sick of his bad reputation and inability to truly devote himself and a lot of it is thanks to him since he developed a twisted personality that prevents deep and truthful relationships. Even though he doesn't have a curse like Eunwoo, he fears that nobody will ever love him. No. He fears not being worthy of love. Taeho had had the opportunities to fulfill his loneliness with people who were genuinely interested in him, like Minwoo for example. Taeho was the one that crushed chances of redemption with or without Eunwoo's curse on the line, meaning he's guilty of it. The problem is him. He is not mad that Minwoo got married, I believe he is mad because once again he saw people who cherish him, moving on. He is not irreplaceable and people can move on from him, especially if he wasn't even real to them. He knows he is no good and the man that hasn't forget him cannot be in love. Taeho is just a disaster and he won't have a good ending if he stays the way he is.
I kinda understand your perspective on this. Maybe because a part of me still can't give up on taeho and wants to understand him. So, I hope the author does it justice lol.
I also hope that, it would be pretty interesting to see some sort of development in his character. And I also want to get him since he is the main reason why I keep coming back to this manhwa while destroying my soul hahaha
You get the BEEEEEEEEST of both worlds
im singing while reading this comment (⌒▽⌒)
Why am I learning useful stuff that my lonely ass will never apply? I love this, tho-
Saaaame
After reading Karino's past, I can totally understand his obsession with Azusa and, from my perspective, the whole base of the story. It's pretty obvious how Karino's character and his true-self are radically different from each other, being the first one the most fluid since it changes according to the surroundings around him. His family and the classmates he met before the caste game saw him as this introvert and silent child who needed a little punch to invest himself into society. Nonetheless, it's pretty much a mask that Karino made since, at the time, he didn't even know what he wanted because nothing excited him.
Now that he is the king, Karino is indifferent towards the power he has over his "subordinates". What can an unpassionate and insensitive guy do if he has no goals in his life? Nothing... If Azusa wasn't there. Azusa is the most normal and rational person in this story. Why? Outside of the fact that he is a jerk with zero intentions of making true bonds with people, he has never abandoned his true-self for the "expectations" of people or the sake of the game. Something that even Karino didn't do when he was the "wannabe".
Azusa is a jerk but he is a jerk with passion and desire of accomplishment, he wants his mother to have a better life. He has dreams, he has goals and he is smart enough to do it.
Azusa excited Karino, who can easily see through his "evil" king. Karino couldn't understand why Azusa wanted to make his character a dramatic version of himself nor the constant desire to make clear who is in charge. He wanted to see Azusa's true-self, not his vilify persona. What would be the point of confronting a made-up person when you are not interested in it anymore? Karino could only achieve it if he removed all the environment that uplifted Azusa's confidence, something that indirectly put Azusa in the same situation he has outside school: He is weak, he has nobody, he most get out of there and he needs to make sure that his mother doesn't get hurt.
Now, I think the plot is envolving in the "environment" that makes Karino discover what he really is and probably, how he loses it... All for the sake of the Caste Game. And chapter 29 proves me right apparently. Geez.
Oh so when karino said that he wants to see Azusa when his facade breaks, he meant the facade Azusa got through being king?
But now that Azusa is a target, it felt like he is just like that towards everyone. Theres no facade anymore. So i dont really understand what Karino was trying to uncover after making Azusa a target.
Mmmm... It could be the case if we only take into account the caste game and not the ""romantic"" relationship between them, at least for me. As the king, it was expected for him to be in charge but he is the one who decided to be a tyrant because Azusa is not ashamed of the person he is. When he is the target, people expected him to follow his role and submit to them and as you said, he never did it.
It's very different for Karino's case. He even said he enjoyed Azusa's face-crack after his betrayal, to point of the expressing how much he wanted to see that expression. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/caste_heaven/bt/243426/Ch1/34/
Karino makes him suffer from the radical change of their power-dynamic and in many moments we see Azusa being submissive of it. Still, Azusa never breaks into dispair and he continues being himself, which the part that Karino liked even more than torture him (which is pretty sick lol). It's just a theory but that likeness he has for Azusa might be more important than his initial intentions, who knows
Some stuff are a bit unclear to me, but after talking with you, i think i understand more :
I think that when Karino said he wants to see how Azusa is when his facade is broken. I think he meant how Azusa would be if he wasn’t a Tyrant. Maybe Azusa is naturally a better person but he somehow puts up an act (??) and this is what Karino wants to see(Azusa’s true self)?? Some characters (the ghost-card girl and i think Atsumu) said that Azusa is being softer than before so that might be Azusa’s facade slowly disappearing.
Lol i’m not sure but this chapter made it clear that Karino is trying to achieve something right from the start about uncovering Azusa’s mask. And it’s more than just seeing the face he made in your link, because otherwise Karino would be done already.
And of course the whole power play between Azusa and Karino is purely about sex. Karino pretend he is only interested in using Azusa, and Azusa needs needs to be *forced* to accept it. But they slowly starts to realise they like each other.
Joowon is not a villain and it saddens me that most of the people who follow this manhwa feel that way. Joowon is a kid that, just as Haesoo, immaturely grew up while having big and deeper feelings towards someone forbidden. Both of them learned to deal with their problems with anger and resentment, hoping that someday they would understand each other while also never taking the first step: Talking.
This is why in the beginning Haesoo slept with many men to hurt Joowon and Joowon keeps getting himself in trouble since he couldn't find another way to reach him. It was obvious that they are in love but their situation, pride, and image did nothing but incremented their jealousy and pain.
Haesoo found in Taekyung what he couldn't get with Joowon: A relationship that doesn't punish him for his feelings nor the constant reminder of guiltiness... And that's okay. Even Haesoo doesn't love him, Taekyung is willing to give himself completely. Something that Joowon... Can't.
And Joowon knows it, reason why at the beginning he was making sure that Haesoo didn't fall in love with any of his nightstands or quick boyfriends. He was just as uneasy as Haesoo, Joowon also felt the fear of being replaced and these last chapters show it.
Joowon deserves as much redemption as anybody in the story. He deserves to move on, mature, forgive and if it is possible, to forget as well. He does since Joowon, the so-called bad guy, was willing to live "wrongly" than losing Haesoo's love... What a bad guy.
Finally! I've been wanting to comment that since the first chapters but every time I came to the comment section I saw so much misinterpretation and so many stupid immature comments I didn't think people would even understand. I think this manhwa has a storyline too psychologically deep for the majority of the readers here. Most of them seem to be horny kids with a gay fetish, and this is the reason why I never come here in the first place. But thank you for understanding, this story needs more appreciation for what it actually is
Yes I totally agree with your comment! Thanks for not making Haesoo the bad guy because neither him nor Joowon are bad.
My furryhub senses dangerously increased to these last chapters than all my experience watching Cats.
Did I just witness a tsundere uke confessing his desire for a relationship to a healthy seme who is not afraid of showing vulnerable emotions? I think I'm in another fcking dimension.
And in Omegaverse nonetheless! Pigs are flying somewhere lol
Taeho is the type of character who wants to be so bad "The asshole who pretends he doesn't love the protagonist because he has a deep backstory that prevents him from doing so" but in reality, he is just an asshole. The dude acts like he doesn't love him and at this point, I legit think he doesn't love or even cares for him. He is mean to him with the excuse that he doesn't want Eunwoo dead, but at the same time, he keeps pushing himself in his life like a parasite, preaching about wanting to free Eunwoo. The story has shown that Eunwoo is perfectly capable of making friends and even love interests, the one who doesn't believe it is himself and a lot of it is thanks to Taeho. I don't care at all what happens to him, all I care about is that the title is a metaphor of him being gone.
Joowon is literally the "these b*tches don't support me, these b*tches are waiting for my m*therfcking downfall, b*tch" meme. In the story and in real life lmaoooooo