• Does MC have sex with others? Forced or consensual?
• Does ML have sex with others? Forced or consensual?
• Why did the MC wear lingerie and did um, that, with the old man in video that his younger brother was with previously?
• I hear that ML and MC are both toxic to each other and it gets worse as story progress, how so? What do they do that is toxic?
THANK YOU!
Here we go :
1. mc obviously had sex with other male before, he’s gay by default so yeah.
2. I believe ml was straight before he met the mc, so yeah his first time with a guy is with mc, and he did horribly js.
3. mc’s younger brother is an actor and the sponsor is the old man, he got caught in situation where the old man die while they were having sex, out of guilt from the past (please read it I’m not going to spoil) the mc helped his brother out of that situation by filming himself with lingerie on, because it seems his younger brother wore it as well, to cover his tracks imo.
4. I would say they didnt know their feelings very well, and how to navigate them because both never had serious relationship prior to this. Hence why people say it’s toxic, but it’s more max misunderstanding imo.
They do have some kind of arrangement here : the ml had very deep interest on the mc, but didn’t know how to act, or even treated the mc the ‘right’ way because this is basically his first time with a guy , and also his background and past (not spoiling). While the mc, had to follow the arrangement, (the arrangement has no sex rules whatsoever) and I will say he had pretty active sex life, so when that night happened, it happened, and the sex just keep happening. What he mad about basically at first the ml never prepared him enough since it was his first time with a guy and he s big.
“While the mc, had to follow the arrangement, (the arrangement has no sex rules whatsoever) and I will say he had pretty active sex life, so when that night happened, it happened, and the sex just keep happening“— What do you mean? Like he has sex with other guys while in an arrangement with ML or he’s just having a lot of sex with ML continuously?
And lastly, I don’t understand sorry!! So, the MC wore same lingerie or similar lingerie on to cover tracks for his little brother…how is that helping? And iirc he jerked off, why?
Also, thank you!! Appreciate it. These are all I’d like to know before I start reading today.
I’m curious, you haven’t read this story at all, not even first 5 chapters? I really suggest you should, to answer your first question here. If you did and still don’t get what I was trying to say, you can ask me again. IMO, their early dynamics is the key to better understanding their characters.
Oh! I would like to correct myself when I said the mc filming himself, that’s a mistake.
To answer your other question, there’s this thing called evidence all right. For covering his brother’s identity (since he’s an actor, this called sponsor will obviously destroy his career if known to public) the mc had to create his own proof, one cannot say he had sex with other man without any evidence such as : semen present, kinky play (I believe there are stuff laying around in that room, including the lingerie).
The chronology of the event probably this : the brother called the mc to ask what he should do basically >> the mc arrived and did whatever he could to cover his brother >> call the ambulance >> police involved >> he had to make a statement about what happened in taht room.
Don’t get overwhelmed by people saying their own opinions, you read it and make your own judgement. If you curious, or even like it but don’t quite understand it, then ask. It took me several re-read to finally get the plot. And I came to conclusions that I love this story a lot. Probably the very first BL manhwa I got to finish reading it.
I did. I have read this a while back and still remember some scenes, I also remember I think the MC had a sexual relation or something with his coworker in the office but he got blamed for whatever his coworker did, I forgot and unsure if that’s even this story.
Besides that, I did read the lingerie part and over, but I’m confused as to how that’s gonna help the brother of that makes sense.
If I understood you, you’re telling me that the MC became a stand in for his brother to hide his brother’s identity and take the fall or something? I’m so sorry if I got that wrong. And, you’re saying that since MC jerked off, he has evidence that HE is the one that was with the actor, not his brother, thus his brother won’t be in trouble.
Much thanks to you with your detailed explanation!!
Thank you!! I appreciate you taking the time to send me responses . I usually try avoiding asking too much since people get frustrated, which I get, but they don’t have to reply or make a reply at all if they don’t want to spoil yknow? I’m just waiting for those that want to.
I already like the dynamic between ML and MC. I’m re reading the chapters I read before dropping it, and I dropped it like a year agao.
Thank you again.
About that coworker stuff, it did happen in the story. That’s probably one of mc’s main reason why he really wanted that inheritance his little brother got from the old man, he wanted to show whoever in that old firm he could come on top.
You got it now! The old man is not an actor though, he’s only a sponsor to his little brother, he’s pretty rich. So, even if this case go public, it would stained his reputation as well, and no one in that old man’s family wanted that attention.
1. In previous relationships, yes. Consensual. Later in the story after forming a "relationship" with ml, he was forced to do a bj with the main antagonist while drunk and on drugs. Nothing else happened. Was saved in time.
2. In previous relationships, yes. No other sex, except with mc once they formed their "relationship". ml was the adamant one about exclusivity once he has interest in a partner.
3. Mc did not touch to old man or anything, he just rubbed himself off to make it more authentic. he did it to cover for and protect his younger bro, who was an actor being sponsored by the old man. Gotta protect his image for fans, ya know, even tho It is industry open secret that sponsors is normal.
4. Not as toxic as I expected. They just bicker a lot. There were some physical, like pushing/shoving, and grabbing hard on the shoulder/should dislocation, but overall, their toxic behavior is mostly just their own outburst at each other for thinking they're playing one another when they really arent? Just trust issues.
Yeah so I read. God do I hate and love them, both MC and ML are annoying lmaoo
• Does MC have sex with others? Is it often or occasional? Consensual or he has to/forced? I randomly skipped to a chapter where he was forced to have sex with some guy who recorded I believe. Is that the only time he has sex with another guy as bottom?
•Does ML have sex with others? ^ Same as above. In most recent chapter I believe, he was jealous and possessive to find out that MC let another man fuck him. “I had to watch this!”
• ANY other spoilers!
• How many seasons until the end? Someone said season 3 is the finale but another told me it isn’t.
• What is the main conflict in the story? Doesn’t have to be detailed spoiler.
• Do ML and MC love each other? Have they defined a relationship? Undefined?
• How trashy is the ML? It’s usually always the ML that is trashy so I’m asking about ML.
—I am going to save this to my reading list and read. I wish I can just go through the story but I’m on a tight schedule, and my brain is curious otherwise I can’t focus. Stories have rotted my brain.
Weird questions from someone reading "The Boundary of Delusions". Talk about double standards.
True, but I’d still like to know.
Just read it if you wanna know all that lmao
Don’t reply if you don’t want to spoil it’s fine if you don’t want to. I’m aware that I can read it but I’d just like the spoilers so I don’t have to go through 50+ chapters, I already have 60+ other stories in my queue, give me a break
I think the authors should PAY you for reading their stories which you paid nothing for. Oh and, they have to apologise to you for clogging up your read list with all their stories when you clearly have no time to read them. What an entitled little twerp you are!!
Look, you don’t have to reply. Save yourself the time!
You’re always hating on other people’s posts. Your parents must’ve never loved you, so you have nothing to do but spread hate, that’s all you’ve known.
And you’re reading on an illegal website, what pay?
Ok fair but heres the deal. A lot of the story is so convoluted its hard to say anything
From what i have read. There is A LOT of forced sex and dubcon.
Their relationship is confusing. I think ML is sort of up front about it but his intentions feel misplaced. He was kidnapped and tortured by MC’s father as a teen. And one time there was a seen MC and ML were having sex right after he trauma dumped on MC and choked MC picturing his father.
He does say he wants him, he missed him etc but MC always felt like an object and that he doesn’t feel loved so in throes of his woes he made the dumb decision of going to ML’s jealous sadistic brother who is into stuffing people. Taxidermy and all that and that bit you know.
Personally, I find the ML low-medium trash. He is still trash and coerced sex millions of times and rubs it on MCs face that he is nice to him and sometimes insinuates that he is better off with him than whoring else where. Now i wanna change my answer… but relatively he is still trash even if not as scathing as other trash in BL.
As for the main conflict there aint much to say. Its still ongoing and i myself have no idea. Basically MCs father would collect dirt on people and left in in a usb for MC to find when he grew up. ML bought him out of his debt for that reason and made him pay the debt with sex and a promise of forever. Which was kinda romantic i guess but you know, not the time or place
Everything i say is my personal interpretation but hey you asked for it so if you do decide to read it no hard feelings xD
*scene where ML imagined MCs father while choking him during sex
Also i should clarify he went MLs brother to make a deal over wikileaks not for sex. There is no love triangle
Oh wow thanks for the switch up, now I feel like an asshole XD.
1. Is the forced noncon/dub between ML and MC mostly?
2. Did MC’s father SA ML or nothing sexual?
3. The ML’s brother didn’t do anything to the MC, right? Or he got to? Or attempted at least?
4. Can’t tell if you’re being satire with the “which was kinda romantic I guess.” —Suuure
Okay that answered one of the questions I just sent. Thank you!! I am not a fan of love triangles…
Haha its okay i was kind of an ass too but alls well ends well right?
1. A mix of all, really. He was developing feelings for ML and more of a mix of all it started to feel like. Like he felt like while he was giving his body one thing he cannot give his is heart. That sorta thing.
2. Not that I remember. He was trapped in a dark place and has ptsd related to that
3. Er... You are not gonna like the answer. It was absolutely noncon and recorded it. Where the last season ends is ML saw the recording and is distraught over it bcs in the vid he says that him both of them are the same to him. That really hurt him.
4. Me neither xD
have you ever considered chilling out?
I did not see this notification sorry. I have like 10+ notifications since I comment almost everywhere with questions. Then someone different replied here, and I just saw, good timing.
1. Ah, the usual trope I see. Thank you!
2. Okay, so nothing sexual, but claustrophobia maybe and darkness fear …which is still frightening. He even got ptsd.
3. Just saw the season 3 finale, damn. ML was really mad , ugh the miscommunication. I mean ML is probably the same type of scumbag, but not exactly. And MC stated in his monologue that ML is probably the first to treat him like a human, which says a lot ig. If ML had heard that instead, he wouldn’t be as mad.
4. Lol no worries, and also thanks for answering all!!
They’re always hating on other people’s post. Read their bio and comments, jeez. No lifer
And idk if you already answered this but that noncon with the brother is one-time thing right?
And did ML or MC sleep with anyone else? Multiple times?
Also one thing I fucking hate is when the author makes it seem as if the victim enjoys the rape. But it’s fiction so can’t do nothing about that. I’m also someone that likes toxicity, funny I know.
LMAO i just saw it. when you're in the craziest bio competition but this person is your opponent...
honestly, this site is so full of weird, emotionally unstable fujos, where are they even coming from
So real
So far once and to the extent of my spoiler knowledge just this once. But there is this thing where everyone wants a piece of him bcs he is that charming just like his father. That bit pisses me off so much.
I'm a sucker for toxic angst myself. The MC isn't a pushover but he sure does get pushed around a lot. Man I hate the whole Cinderella troupe with a passion but has never stopped me for dipping myself balls deep into the lore hahaha
They sat and wrote that themselves. Think about that.
EDITTT: never mind I saw. Lmaoo
Edit: Also what chapter did main couple meet with ML’s brother and boyfriend? I remember they were in a living room talking. I dropped it around that timeline.
I dropped it cause I was heavily turned off by this: I heard a few people wanting the main couple to have a foursome with ML’s brother and his brother’s boyfriend (the dude that ML used to like). MC and ML are for each other, thanks..
FUCK NOOO. How did that even come to mind? I thought I was a pervert, I see a bigger weird one here.
This is coming from someone who enjoys threesome or orgies (in story, not real life…real life is full of std).
Mokyeon (light haired) clearly doesn’t care for his friend of ten years. I assume he’s never cared for Seonhwa, more of sex buddy reasons only. What friend will call another friend’s body a lowly body?
Anyways, can’t wait to see Nanjo being railed.
Why this have 4 dislikes??
I feel like this story would be much better if the second couple didn’t exist (the bodyguard/secretary dude and the druggie.), no offense but I’m so disgusted by the way the druggie Uke had sex in front of the bodyguard.
Have some decency and not do it in front.
I can’t be the only one disgusted by this action! Am I abnormal?
It’s worse that he’s not getting support and probably will continue to be this way. I can’t say get a room since he’s already in a room (laughing emoji since Mangago deleted mine), but it’s just how I feel at the end.
I do pity and feel sorry for the state druggie is in. He’s relying on sex and drugs to cope, and the Secretary dude is pretty crazy to wait for the Uke to ask him for help. I’m not sure how they are going to end up together, if they even will. I’m curious, who’s the initiator and who will hold back.
I’m just not a fan of this type of dynamic. How many seasons will this story have? Anyone know?
First of all, Jin was the one who actively requested to stay and supervise Jian when he was with other people. He wanted to be by Jian’s side even in his most miserable state—perhaps to ensure Jian didn’t go too far, and also because it was his job. Evidence? In chapter 47, he could have left if he wanted to, and in chapter 37, Jian even told him to leave. Jian was in an extremely bad mental state and wanted to push Jin away after discovering that Jin had been secretly working with Jitae behind his back. Before that, Jian had already been wary of Jin because he was someone working for his mother. Jian had his own plans and didn’t want to be monitored by her.
If you don’t like the uke being with other people in front of the seme, that’s your personal preference. But let’s not forget that Jin is merely an employee right now, and they are not officially in any kind of relationship. Jin has been consistently rejecting Jian’s advances.
Secondly, these two are crucial to the plot—Jitae wouldn’t have gotten this far without them. Without Jin acting as a loyal subordinate, feeding Jitae Suryeon’s dirty secrets, there’s no way Jitae could have gained the leverage he has over her. And on the other hand, if Jian hadn’t been shielding and interfering on Jitae’s behalf all this time, would Jitae have been able to act so freely?
It was Jian who brought Mieum to Jitae, giving him the final push to take action. Otherwise, Jitae would have continued his long-term revenge plan of mutual destruction alongside Jin.
You don’t have to like the secondary couple, but don’t erase their significance.
I’m aware of them not being together. But let’s be honest, having sex in front of others who aren’t there to participate is nonetheless weird. That is all I’m saying. Not sure who likes this (sex in front of someone else and drugged up, keyword: drugged) happening, but preferences like you said.
Thank you for the reminder that Jin stayed willingly, and of course he doesn’t like the state Jian is in, thus he stayed, NOT because he wanted to see him having sex with others. Plays in my point.
Me disliking them won’t erase their significance, you’re absolutely right. As you said, it’s personal preferences, I’m aware of their importance in the story but some scenes can be left out. They can absolutely be the same significance without those drugged up sex scenes. Now that is completely different from someone not participating in sex and drugs, relying on them.
And I’m not sure why Mangago cut off the rest of my post and I realise how shitty it made me look. Big sigh on my part, sorry:
Had to rewind through my website to find the edit post of this:
“I feel like this story would be much better if the second couple didn’t exist (the bodyguard/secretary dude and the druggie.), no offense but I’m so disgusted by the way the druggie Uke had sex in front of the bodyguard.
Have some decency and not do it in front.
I can’t be the only one disgusted by this action! Am I abnormal? It’s worse that he’s not getting support and probably will continue to be this way. I can’t say get a room since he’s already in a room (laughing emoji since Mangago deleted mine), but it’s just how I feel at the end.
I do pity and feel sorry for the state druggie is in. He’s relying on sex and drugs to cope, and the Secretary dude is pretty crazy to wait for the Uke to ask him for help. I’m not sure how they are going to end up together, if they even will. I’m curious, who’s the initiator and who will hold back.
I’m just not a fan of this type of dynamic. How many seasons will this story have? Anyone know?”
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Regardless, my only ick is the whole messy situation in front of another, and I swear I remember Secretary guy wanting Jian to come to him first which made me grossed out. It has nothing to do with how they are overall, or that Uke has sex with others. That’s his business.
Why did Jin reject his advances, please remind me because I’m currently reading bunch of other so you can blame me for forgetting.
I feel bothered as well by this couple but after hearing jian saying "a villain will be stripped off everything" I kinda sympathize with him. I think Jian wanted to push the secretary away because he is ready for his own downfall and doesn't want to drag anyone else with him. That's why he is doing all that, petty actions. I hope he will get his own chardev since this story got the potential for it.
Oh no don’t get me wrong, I do feel sorry for Jian as well. I just don’t like anyone in this fucked up situation (drugs coping and sex), then the in front of another who is supposedly waiting for Jian to ask for help, a whole mess. Which I don’t blame Jian for being in, he has his circumstances.
Yea, Jian is self destructive. As for why secretary rejected his previous advances, probably to do with his plans.
I’m also looking for his character development. It would be a shame if he’s just discarded. Do you know how many seasons we have left?
Tbh I don't know. I just don't think the author gives a shit to this couple at all lmao
Wow, this is like a rare BL where the Uke actually tells the seme what’s going on (being blackmailed) and right in front of the blackmailer! Instead of hiding it, usual boring trope…no offense .
Love it.
Um…I hope there’s no endgame and just harem, the MC is a hoe I see. But I have a strong feeling the purple haired guy is a ML, based on his appearance and being on the cover with MC.
Does white hair end up with that guy that likes him? Both are on cover. The guy standing in the back.
If so, what ch does their story start..
Edit: OH
Spoiler
The white hair guy dies
Credits @Farscapewho747
“So obviously this is a bad angle, Hyobin's seatbelt is stuck and the other guy is helping him, so not kissing. After this Hyobin goes to one of Hyuk's shows to surprise him and... sees a bad angle of Hyuk and the pink haired guy looking like they are kissing, but Hyuk is just helping that guy with his piercing. Then at the end of the 4th chapter they both finally accuse the other, and talk it out in the fifth side story chapter.”
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Both being idiots. Not confronting one another but hiding their insecurity because they think of trying to be an adult. One idiot didn’t think about letting his partner know that his car engine failed, and the other was cuddled up with the pink haired guy (unsure if on purpose but prob not).
Expressing your feelings and insecurity IS NOT immature. These two idiots are thinking: I have to be an adult, I’m so immature.
Yes, you both are immature by not talking about what you feel and saw as uncomfortable.