Their faces during sex...are kinda ugly. Made it a bit hard to read honestly. Also, the way the connection between the characters was established was really rushed. Don't think I'll be coming back to this
SAME. What a putting off manga. This mangaka has a habit of rushing plots for porn :/ i did come back to this because i want to give it a chance.you got 12 dislikes though damnn
17 now
You do know it's all about realism here? Their faces are exaggerated that's why it looks 'ugly' And whats rushed about the webtoon? I see tons of mangas and webtoons that has a rushed relationship, their sex obsessive people. That's why they have 'sex too fast' don't be too overly sensitive. The plot isn't gonna be all fluffy and angst like the ones you prefer.
Its not being over sensitive. Its about the quality of the manga. Just because there are loads of other yaoi that are rushed too doesnt make this manhwa any better. Whats your point?
Yeah, it's what made me drop The Baker On The First Floor too. Also, hot damn I'm up to 19 dislikes!
I just explained my 'point', and the expressons that they do that may look ugly because of their art style (which I clearly like unlike other ahegao mangas that looks disturbing ). I doubt you two can make a proper webtoon. Let alone a stick man. If you want to Criticize the author, prioritize yourself first.
I'm not being over sensitive, just stating why I didn't like it -_- Also, where's the realism in this? This is literally a fantasy story. I don't think any of us came here looking for realism.
Jesusssss christtttttt I meant the expressions you pleb. You don't expect every fucking webtoon or manga that their uke or seme has a 'cute' expression every time you read my god. I'm just gonna stop here because all of you people are being blunt rn. And because I know that one day you'll read GyaGa's works and think 'it's actually not bad'
How sad. Youre getting way too worked up over a simple manhwa. This discussion is over.
Did...did you just seriously call me a pleb? Are you trying to be some sort of elitist or something? Also, nobody is criticizing the author. I simply said I didn't like the damn webtoon. I actually do like the art style, ugly sex faces or not. My main issue is the author's style of storytelling, it's just not to my taste. I have read their other work, and I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like this one. Please pull out whatever is stuck up your ass and come back down to Earth. You need to realize that a difference of opinion doesn't automatically mean one side right and the other is wrong. Grow up
This started out as being promising, but quickly went downhill. The pacing was way off and the characters were very flat. It felt like the main character was stripped of any personality for the convenience of the plot and as a weak attempt to tug on readers heartstrings. In the first chapter we got to see bits of her actual personality and I liked what I saw. A refined, educated girl who knew how to be herself in a place and time where noble women are seen more as property and status symbols than people. But after that it's like someone popped the balloon that was her personality and she was reduced to nothing more than a plot device with sad eyes. And the so-called 'villain' of the story swung so much between honorable prince and possessive Asshole that it gave me whiplash. In the beginning it's established that the 9th Prince and Yun Qie have a friendly relationship despite status differences. He's also shown to be quite fair and level headed, so his sudden switch to Asshole mode completely came out of nowhere. I was expecting there to some issues with jealousy and even a love triangle, but the author butchered their own story and characters so much that it just became a jumbled mess. In an attempt to create drama, the characters and plot were sacrificed to lazy writing. Even the happy ending was rushed and felt insincere. All in all, it was a good idea but poorly executed. There are much better manga with similar setups out there, I'd suggest reading one of those instead.
Can someone please tell me what happened between chapters 8 and 9? It seems like there's a whole story missing, it jumps right to Misonoi being the vice president seemingly out of nowhere. It's driving me crazy to not know if I'm actually missing something or not!!!(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Hi, yes there are definitely chapters missing. I bought the manga many years ago and suddenly decided to revisit this while I'm overseas. I realised they skipped out at least 2 whole chapters!!!
*spoilers*
If my memory served me correctly, Hashizume's brother came to Seiryou wanting to "destroy" their relationship and Misonoi thought that he was Hashizume's past lover or something. After the whole incident was cleared up, Misonoi officially confessed his love for Hashizume. Anddddddd, the sex scene was pretty intense. It was then when everybody also found out that Hashizume's family was the super rich, powerful, influential type they had initially imagined to be.
I got the books from Barnes & Noble all four of them... (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Thank you so much! I was driving myself crazy with curiosity, I really appreciate the summary ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I didn't know they sold yaoi manga, now I'm going to have to get them!
Idk if it's just me or what, but I seriously love characters that actually use their legs. Like, in most yaoi manga the legs are just kinda there, or in the way, but Ayumi uses his legs like an extra set of arms to grab and hold onto Kotaro. Ya know, LIKE AN ACTUAL HUMAN BEING WOULD. I always thought that a lot of manga, not just yaoi, was missing something to make it more realistic, and I finally figured out that it was their fucking LEGS! I mean, I'm sure most of us have used our legs and feet to do things like pull something(or someone) closer or push them away, or picked things up with them when we were too lazy to reach that far to out arms. (Right?? No? Just me?.....) Its makes them seem inflexible to me, in a way the human body shouldn't be. (We'll leave the other inhuman feats of flexibility that can ONLY be achieved in manga/anime alone) Its part of the reason I like Yashiro from Saezuru Tori Wa Habatakanai so much as well.
So, in short, GIMME MORE OF DAT SEXY LEG ACTION! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I agree x)
Look at us and the little details we obseve that is important in the making of every yaoi sex scene hot and realistic. We can honestly just talk about legs/clothes/sex position/sex inuendos/sex speech and make a whole damn bloody essay on why this certain type of thing is certainly important in every.yaoi.sex. EVER
And i very much agree with you! Haha!
I think I've gotten too used to the trend in yaoi of the handsome playboy falling for the quiet, meek uke at almost first sight. I let my guard down. With the way the story was going, I just wasn't expecting Kou to pull such a 180 like that. I got swept along with Shinobu's side of the story, so much so that Kou's complete change in attitude hit me like fist straight to the heart. I thought it was safe since they'd already slept together several times and were still going, but the fact that he waited until Shinobu told him he loved him, then dropped him like soggy newspaper made it so much worse. I was really liking Kou but I don't think I can forgive him, especially since he knew Shinobu was just recently heartbroken and he broke his heart again. ╥﹏╥
I don't know why, but this just leaves me heartsick. I absolutely love Roy's character in the anime, and in most fanfics and dj's, but in this one he's just being so awful to Ed. That scene where Roy dove to save Fuery and left Ed wide open to attack made my heart clench. Ed had unconsciously trusted him to watch his back and cover him under fire, just like Ed had done for Roy against the Water String Alchemist, and Roy didn't even shout a warning. I'm not saying he should have left Fuery to fend for himself, but a simple 'Move, Ed!' would've been great. If Al hadn't followed them Ed would've been full of bullet holes. And then he has the balls to imply it was Ed's fault he almost got shot? He was just bitching about how Ed never feels safe enough to sleep at his house, and look what he did when Ed did put his trust in him. Watching Roy twist himself and Ed into knots like this just leaves such a sour feeling in my stomach. Other than the ending, I don't see anything sweet about this.
To the people trying to reason out who is in the right and who deserves what, there is no 'right' side. There is no black or white here, and arguing over which shade of grey it is serves no purpose. We already knew that Dohyun wasn't a decent guy right from the beginning, and finding out he was the same in high school shouldn't be much of a surprise. It's been made clear that he feels no attachment towards people, dislikes them as a general rule actually. It's not all that surprising that he doesn't remember someone he probably didn't put much emotion into. Yes, his actions towards Sungho definitely ping pretty hard on the douche-o-meter, but Sungho thus far hasn't clearly told him to stop the sexual advances. We haven't seen Dohyun force Sungho into anything yet. Sungho is clearly aware on some level that if he starts to bore Dohyun he'll likely move on to something else, so he feels pressured to do things he doesn't like, but that's his choice to make. He seemed to have a weak willpower and subservient personality in high school, and his sexual relationship with Dohyun clearly put a lot of mental and emotional stress on him. That coupled with whatever accident he apparently had seems to have sent him off his rocker. Regardless of what happened in the past, kidnapping, confining, and violently raping someone can't be justified. Dohyun doesn't deserve the treatment he's receiving, just as Sungho didn't deserve to get caught up with a dick like Dohyun. This story isn't about trying to figure out which side you should be on, so just hang on tight and enjoy the ride, because I'm sure this roller coaster has plenty more wild twists and turns to keep you occupied.
it's about who you choose to side more "mini asshole" that play with people in high school or the "crazy fuck up raper that become Obsessive on ever since high school and torture him to the extreme".
the very thing they choose to put the MC POV that was "mini asshole" has first person view is besically making us to be on his side!!
even if he was a "mini asshole" in high school and play around, he still the victim here much more then the CRAZY "Seme"
I do agree that Sungho is committing the worse crime here by BY FAR. I just wanted to get the point across to the people saying Dohyun deserved what he got and had it coming that not everything is as clear-cut black and white as they want it to be. Each side had their reasons. Even if those reasons were that one guy is emotionally stunted and the other is a total yandere
Thank you, I really wasn't sure what to end that rant on lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I think Goong Ha has high functioning autism. His lack of interest in anything and problems eating certain foods, as well as not communicating in school and getting bad grades due to lack of interest can certainly indicate that. It would also explain his attachment to his first love, and why he was so quick to latch onto Sun Hwa.
As someone with autism - no, he doesn't have autism. Autistic people actually do have interest in a certain thing. Actually an extreme interest. Autism also doesn't equate a lack of empathy and anger issues.
You are completely right; he likely has disorder along the lines of ASPD.
I don't think it's autism spectrum...though I also don't buy "ADHD". He isn't having trouble processing other people's emotions, or seem like he's unable to process so much stimulus around him or anything that really fits. It's hard to diagnose fictional characters, but it could be childhood depression (as in a mood disorder) or simply a child having a hard time in a new family and culture. The fighting seems more like a reaction to having been rejected, and the covering it up with "boys will be boys" (or "children do that" is a cover. The psychologist they took him to is a quack though. The answer to any child's problem is not to just give him whatever he wants.
This is possible--but I think it's too early to tell if he completely lacks sympathy/empathy or if he is acting out because he feels upset and does not want to talk about what is really bothering him. If he was killing live animals, that would have convinced me. A teddy bear is a bit different--children can be rough on toys.
I'm just gonna say this now but.......This feels like fucking Criminal minds episode, you all are just like your own little team of Wonder bread! Like wtf! Lol, sorry but I just wanted to point that little funny out lol
Character strikes me as textbook definition of a sociopath
It's just for fun. :) Like I said, it'd not like fictional characters will match real life.
That may be true, but wouldn't it be awesome to just be like manga world CBA? Lol jk, it's just fun to think about
I have a rule of thumb in yaoi: the first to lose their pants (even outside of sex scenes) is the uke. Thus far I haven't been wrong (☆^ー^☆)
Hana's expressions are the best! I swear her face is what makes this manga so good