it always irks me how in korean bls the top is always superior to the bottom, if it isn’t economically it’s usually physically or socially. The top will always be stronger or smarter or richer and that totally bugs me cause i can count in one hand the number of bls where the pair is on equal standing and the bottom isn’t in a disadvantaged position which forces the relationship to be unbalanced af. i think that’s why i prefer japanese bl when it comes to plot or characters because they are so much more nuanced and developed they always feel like real people (and the usual lack of sa of coerced sex is also a plus)
legit got blasted for calling out a korean bl for coerced sa .
OMG REAL LMFAO☠ i JUST posted a question asking for CEO bottom x assistant top I'm tired of those dynamics too I need sumn fresh
Yuh ts so annoying gng like cm how hrd is it to be a decnt prsn
totally!! the top always has some fucked up personality without reason cause they have the most perfect background never suffered a day in their lives meanwhile the bottoms suffer more than jesus christ and end up without a personality disorder
Preach brother!!!!
Japanese BL's actually explore broke couples living in tiny run down apartments and a shitty job just to get by. Koreans be like nah babes, CHAEBOL all the way, heir to some top company, and women/men cheeks spread at the ready.
Cheeks spread at the ready got me gagged LOL
That's actually so true, the tropes are definetly those. It's rare to not see chaeobol dynamic in Korean BL and it's getting very repetitive
ikr everybodys a chaebol somehow. when everybodys a chaebol no one is.
it's so funny to me how people will read any kind of bl with SA and rate it high too but will draw the line at cheating like that's your limit you can excuse abuse but god forbid there's a cheating trope
somehow they can separate reality and fiction for SAs but not cheating.. cue the alpha's circumstances
or a character just being annoying like SA is fine but god forbid a character cries a lot /s
totally. a normal trauma response discarded as being weak willed or a crybaby insane ass behavior
most bl I read nowadays have the the following premise: the uke is living his calm perfect life and then here arrives the man that will ruin his entire existence (the seme) what happened to two people falling in love smfh
Yeah and it’s ass, like give us sth good
Yeah and it's either college guys or just employed fresh out of college
thank you. a sane person.
yeah what about two people meeting and falling in love in a sane way? is that so boring that these authors have the need to add SA or emotional and physical abuse
Literally, like what happened to DRAMA and not straight up assault? Authors will add the most graphic unnecessary drawn out rape scenes and people in the comments would read our dislike of it with a straight face and just tell us to stop reading it if it’s not our cup of tea. Like yall are these reason authors are sacrificing plot of straight up porn.
And can I really be mad at that? I know what I was signing up for when I read but this shit is so tiring. Atp we’re reading the same plots over and over with no good substance or memorable story lines. And this is why I got so much hate for saying BJ Alex is mid and so is jinx. We have to be honest with ourselves guys they’re literally just porn plots. Forgive me for actually wanting a piece of media that demonstrates a genuine relationship rather than fostering agonism. Take SIGN for example, or 19 days, kings maker, blood bank, or never understand or even nanohana boys. At least if you’re going to add rape to the plot make it critical like in a cruel god reigns or kings maker.
But that’s just my two cents before I rant fr fr
Nothing wrong with ranting a bit, that's good for the moral and the com. scet. is there for this.
I've never dropped so many readings because they're too much but at the same time have too little substance and romance. And yeah, they end up looking the same with the practically the same archetype rich ML; authors know what made a manhwa popular, popular, so instead of being creative they just use the same recipe, that's why we get this now... Nowadays, any shonen-ai can have more passion and tension than a hardcore, smut yaoi. Shonen-ai contain a proper plot most of the time and are more focused on developping the relationship of the two guys, telling about some drama or peripeties if there was any than just showing sex scenes, that often are more fan-service than actual sex between two (consenting) lovers.
There's nothing worse than two people ending up together despite having no chemistry together, or they ending up together because they're meant to be (by the supreme will of author) or because one was raped too much he's "started to love it" (mind-broken).
What is absent is also the e-ro-ti-za-tion of what is supposed to be a sexy reading (BL, Yaoi). When there's nothing but rape and SA that are not even hidden behind a thin romance (like our old yaoi mangas) and the ML just shoves his d*ck in the a** of MC, I don't know about you but I can't, I can't eat that...
It is a fact (though) that most yaoi viewers today just consume Yaoi for porn, and don't really care about the plot or romance; this has never been so true since these last years with manwhas webtoons overtaking these "mangas" sites.
I'll add I asked My Deskmate to Beat you in the list of lectures mentioned.
BJ Alex left me cold like an ice and Jinx as well, despite the great progress of art of the author, though BJ Alex had at least an original concept...
so trueee!! that's why I've been reading good shounen ai this days like Love Tractor
can't read half of the ongoing bls right now cause bottoms might forgive tops sa them but I sure as hell don't
Yeah I totally gave up on them now I just rely on recs and other bls by an author I like
mokhwa was done dirty fr
this is such a problem for me cause I can't remember a single title and always associate each manga/hwa with its cover so now I'm like wondering what the hell is in my notifs
It's hard to read anything cuz i can't see any cover
genuine question but do authors hate the uke in their stories? I never ever read about the seme being abused, manipulated, gaslit, their lives are never ruined, they never fall in love with abusive assholes who destroy them. So like are authors taking their frustrations out on ukes? not that I wanna read the opposite you know I have to search for hours to find something unproblematic where the seme isn't the biggest piece of shit on the planet, it's getting tiring I guess healthy relationships don't sell as well as toxic shit.
I think the authors are the type who would've been into fifty shades of grey so they just copy it's shitty story telling to share to other people who probably would've been into fifty shades of grey i.e white women who like shitty guys who are rough in bed
Some time i feel like since a lot of Bl’s are written by women they are projecting their own experiences on the uke
I might go into a tangent so bare with me lol. its a fantasy, more or less. its typically between two reasons. one of the idea is mainly rooted in misogyny that ukes are petite and feminine with a small body are ideal of what ukes should be. playing into a gender role stereotype for men. they get projected hard because people have a notion of who's the woman and the man in the relationship? so then they proceed with the same idea of portraying those roles into stories. it's just a really common trope to begin with in all forms of romance novels or movies, having abusive ideologies converse into "its just possessiveness" when in reality its nothing like that. it just ads another layer with gay people because of the heteronormative idea that there should be a woman in the relationship.
I mean.. look around.. the most popular BLs are the most toxic ones lolol, the authors don’t contribute to it alone. If everyone was actually sane in the head and no one would hype up the most disgusting BLs to the point where it’s normalized then.. what do you think.
Have you ever read "Les Misérables"? Misery has a weird charm...
Very very heartbreaking story of seme
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hanbun_ageru/
hiii any bl with an incredible amount of sexual tension? in the sense that you can feel the horniness and the desire exuding from the characters so much so that you scream at them to just fuck already
leaving a comment under here to echo your words, was gonna ask a question for the exact same thing - tension tension tension, all I'm looking for rn
Lmao Shutline is the only I can think of cause the sexual tension is so
https://www.mangago.zone/tag/Sexual+Tension/
full moon alchemist. they have crazy sexual tension
Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_melting_season/
Dash
A bit hesitant to recommend this, but it’s one of the best things I ever read until I get to the last, like, 10 to 15 chapters—that’s when everything unravels. Honestly, the ending is horrible, but the sexual tension, THE TENSION, yeah…it has that. Unfortunately, that’s all it has. Enjoy!
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/december/
you're a legend for dropping this list, thank you!
:)