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Is it only me who prefer Jihyun???
My eyes cried a river when they talk in the hospital. I can feel his pain like I'm the one who's getting heart broken.
Oh Jihyun I'm here for u ٩(๑´3`๑)۶
To anyone who hates Jihyun character please don't. If you know the feeling of losing or someone taking away ur most important person u'll definitely understand him.。・゚・(ノ∀`)・゚・。
From now on I'll stay away from BL manhwa my heart isn't strong enough to take it.(。ŏ﹏ŏ)
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They do but even the author made it well known it was sexual assault. Chiwoo made it known it was nonconsensual, crossed the boundary, and it was a traumatizing event. And the story was realistic enough that just bc its yaoi doesn't mean yeah okay whatever. Its just a story.
To K-ty08
And how come Jihyun only gets the sympathy..what about Chiwoo.
You say you feel what it feels like to lose someone but what about Chiwoo who was forced down and to take it by his precious friend. Shouting no no no. So messed up that after Jihyun kissed him first meeting, he was nauseous and had a barfing reaction.
Personally since this all my opinion, I think its fine to feel bad For Jihyun absolutely . His childhood, what his dad did to him, the lack of teachers ever asking whats going on at home. But that doesn't mean for me to ship him with the person he loves when he still in such a mindset. More so to get help, maybe fall in love in future with someone new and to have changed from those toxic habits.
But imma keep it honest. I know the age range when people make those comments and due to such - they see things naturally different.
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That's just me. Ok! I know/maybe as a Yaoi fan there are time that some of the ships that we like doesn't end up together. And that hurts and make us sad (again maybe I'm the only one like that)
With that said I like Jihyun now if u don't ,fine I ain't forcing anybody.Create topic about ur thoughts and talk to people with the same thoughts as urs.
You are u and I am me. We're different.
No matter how realistic is it we're still talking about this MANGA!! Mangas are diff. to real life ok. I like Jihyun the 2D character.
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I was just adding my input but yep everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I did create my own topic. But I was just reading what everyone comments to see and if you comment sometimes you may get responses that aren’t well liked. I don’t mind hearing differing opinions or thoughts or analysis of stories. However, I agree entitled to say whatever but I was curious why a lot of ppl are sympathetic towards Jihyun but not so much Chiwoo in this situation.
But I’ll let it go and move on from this conversation.
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If the uke drives you mad for what he did and his reasoning, you'll gonna hate him more in the ff chapters (why the F*** he and his new bf have more chapter(╯°Д °)╯╧╧ )The Uke will be together with his boss and the poor seme will found a new lover
(thier story is really short though) In his new found love he become an UKE. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
At first I want them to get back but with the Uke's reasoning Hell no!!!
What if Chiwoo gave him a chance when they met again or what if during the fall Jihyun protected him so instead of Chiwoo his the one who got badly injured would that make him realize that Jihyun just love him so much that his world is nothing but darkness w/o him
Hmmm what if he tried to killed himself in front of Chiwoo in the hospital maybe then he will see that his really sorry and didn't meant that to happen then later he will finally be good a guy coz seriously lack of communication is what lead to these mess. Plus Chiwoo is indecisive. If he just clearly and properly denies Jihyuns feelings when he keeps on checking it back then
I don't think they will end up like that.
Oh gosh why I’m so affected
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----- Note: This is just MY what if OK
If u don't like it or disagree that's totally fine I'm just stating my thoughts. I ain't forcing anybody. Besides there's also manga with that kind set up and they end up together. *If I came accross it again gonna link it here*
Plus, you can make ur OWN.
oh hun, i pray you are kidding. Everything you mentioned is what abusive, manipulative people do. They give you love, and then do things to guilt you into staying. Into thinking you are changing. They say that they will commit suicide if you arent with them.
it wasnt lack of communication that caused this mess, but the fact that the uke was raped. Please dont blame the victim, even if he didnt respond to jihyuns feelings it doesnt excuse anything he did. Especially by the time they reunited he was too afraid to reject him.
It's not that I'm blaming Chiwoo I was just saying his at fault too for being indecisive
It's not being manipulative.
It's clear that Jinhyun is really sorry and devastated on what happen.However there's no way to prove it that's why I've thought of that what if besides his world revolves around Chiwoo so w/o him his life is meaningless so which makes killing urself a better idea since living in a world like an empty is practically the same.
What you said is all manipulative. Other people aren't responsable for our feelings. It doesn't matter if he really was sorry, not only he did what he did in the past when he came back, he isoled and threatened the main character to make him leave a person he cared. It doesn't matter if he loved the main character or not, if he had a difficult past or not, people aren't rehabilitation centers for crappy lifes. Trying to kill yourself so "the other person understand what you are trying to say" is abusive. Google it very quickly and you will see it. We all have terrible life stories, some worse than others, that doesn't justify abusing others and putting on them the weight to save you from pain. Some people don't love you back, that's sad but that's life. If you have any other reacting besides letting the person live their life is where you are at wrong. He almost followed an abuser manual: he had angry tantrums than said how sorry he was (over and over), isoled the "person he loved", threatened a third part and put the blame in case he did anything on "the person he loved" because he knew what he could do (and explictly told him that), forced his presence in the life of the "person he loved" even though the person explicitly told him to leave (in name of love). LOVE ISN'T A JUSTIFICATION FOR ABUSE.
Well that's you.
Yeah, other people aren't responsible for our feelings but they do have a big influence. Coz people words affects our feeling no matter how hard u deny it.
Just like in raising a child
If a child grew up in an environment where killing seems normal of course that child will do it .
Besides it's just my what if. I wrote it coz I’ll keep thinking about it if I don't.
Now if ur good with the story great.
ARE YOU HEARING YOURSELF?? DID YOU READ BACK WHAT YOU WROTE?? DID YOU JUST SAY HE SHOULD TRY TO KILL HIMSELF TO SHOW HIS LOVE??
THATS CALLED EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION
HE DOESNT HAVE TO DECIDE. NORMAL PEOPLE DONT FORCE SOMEONE TO CHOOSE. YOU DONT FORCE YOURSELF ONTO SOMEONE WHO IS TAKING TO LONG TO PICK WHETHER THEY WANNA BE WITH YOU OR NOT
ESPECIALLY AFTER SAID PERSON HAS REJECTED YOU ARE YOU REALLY OKAY?
HES NOT SORRY HE JUST WANTS TO FEEL BETTER AB HIMSELF AND JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT
That's just my what if I ain't forcing my thought to anyone. OK!
If ur ok with the ending then be it.
it’s not the fact that you’re forcing me to think of it a different way. it’s that what you’re saying is wrong and dangerous. this is such a narrative and i hope others don’t see this and adopt this way of thinking
That's what if for the manga ok ! FOR THE MANGA ! If I were the one to do a what if chapter.
Chill lax
This is getting toxic.
Those are my thoughts if u have ur own then write it.
We're talking about the manga here.
There's so many books out there with dark thoughts. If its dangerous then why do they publish it ??
If an authors can share those what u so called dangerous why can't I ?? Coz I ain't an author?? I ain't famous??What's the logic?
Well, You are u and I am me so think whatever u want. I'm out.
this discussion isn't getting toxic! your ideals/opinions are whats toxic. i understand that this is a work of fiction but that mentality is just NOT the move.
i unerstand 1000% that this is just a work of fiction. but it's just so dangerous to put stuff like that out here bc there are SO many younger readers on here who DON'T need to romanticize suicide or emotional manipulation!!
You need help sis. Even if it was a "what if" there's a truth you believe in in some of the stuff you said and that's seriously messed up.
Threatening someone to stay with you, isolating them from friends or hobbies, stalking them and RAPING are serious issues and obvious red flags of someone you'd want to stay away from.
Maybe you.
That's just my what if of the manga AND FOR THE MANGA!!! now if don't like it write ur own. If ur good with the story Great for you!!!
I just share my thoughts just like the others sharing thier own about the new seme and Chiwoo.
hahaah Then create ur own
It's clearly written MY WHAT IF.
If there's books with those thoughts out in public already what's the difference???
Status of the person who wrote it?
If ur ain't an author sharing ur thoughts are forbidden??
What nonsense.
How come it's toxic??? My thoughts /opinion didn't do anything. Did it hurt u???
Ur the one making it toxic just because u don't like it ur saying those things why don't u create ur own instead of insisting urs to me.
If u really think it's dangerous then go out there search for everyone who put up similar thoughts to mine. Even respective authors tell them what they are putting is dangerous include everybody don't just randomly pick or come to someone just bcoz they ain't labeled or popular.
Yeah So many youngerster reading here and so many manga about dark thoughts, killing and suicide here as well. If you really think that my what if is dangerous Before u telling me those shouldn't u start with the authors first!! Coz manga is more important than my thoughts.
And It ain't gonna change I still like Jihyun 2D character and my what if won't change.
i’m not making anything toxic. there’s a difference between fiction, and someone who is REAL promoting such dark/dangerous ideals. i don’t really care who you like or dislike in the manga because you’re correct, it’s a MANGA. but when the character you’re supporting is a mentally unstable, abusive, manipulative asshole the. you should probably expect some clap back when people are upset by your “what if’s”
the entire “what if” is so manipulative and i just don’t want you or anyone else thinking that anyone should ever be treated that way. some people get wrapped up in fantasy, and while that probably isn’t the case for you i just wanted to call out what i saw was harmful in you made up “theory”.
i don’t mean you any disrespect and it’s great that we can have an open discussion about things like this. but i can wholly agree with supporting jihyun after he gets help and wants him to find someone he can actually LOVE and not obsess over. chiwoo never did anything completely wrong in this series. when he was a TEENAGER he brushed off his friends feelings instead of openly discussing them. that’s the only thing i can think of that he could’ve handled better.
anyways ik this is long and i’m annoying but i’m done arguing this topic just like i feel you are. i hope you’re staying safe during the pandemic! best wishes for you and your family.
I DIDNT JUST RANDOMLY PICK OUT YOU HAHA SORRY I DIDNT READ THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH
i pick on everyone who says some bull like this in the comments. ive commented on here sooooo many times it’s SOOO ugly istg. i’m not trying to force my opinion on you but if anyone else sees this conversation i want them to know that jihyun ISNT okay hahah. sorry i need to stop reading only the first sentence
nah this manhwa does nothing to glorify the abuser so i don’t think i will be telling the author anything
When did I promote such things???
Seriously???
Well whatever.
I ain't enforcing my thoughts on u or anybody else.
If u don't agree or hate . K. Fine but don't u dare say I'm wrong.
I respect u disliking it u respect mine
that's it.
I'm talking in general not just mangas
hahahaha just like a racist picking on someone just coz they like it or they aren't known
supporting dangerous and absusive thought by authors but strongly disapproving a mere what if
That what a hypocrite being does
nah you’re still wrong and imma call you out on it.
also i’m not respecting an opinion that glorifies abuse and manipulation. i give my respect where respect is due. i respect the fact that you have an opinion, but not the opinion itself.
WHAT DOES RACISM HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING IM SO CONFUSED
also the author didn’t even promote abuse she brought it to light, talked ab it and what was wrong with it. don’t compare your half baked what if to a beautifully crafted story that discusses such a heavy topic.
No one has to respect your whack-ass ideas. I have so little respect for you and everything you have said so far. Insane.
Really??? If u say so
...... Ok I'll do the same.
lashing out just coz my fave ship is diff
...... What a pity(≧▽≦)
u came here and started like I'm pertaining to some human being when I was just merely talking about a 2D world.
Is there anything else????
Go ahead Lash out until u get satisfied forcing ur thinking on someone I know u will say ur not.. if ur not why bother commenting when u can just dislike it
anyways it's up 2u
Manga is manga it ain't gonna be a reality they won't turn into human whether I sympithize Jihyun a rapist or try to think another ending.
the fact that you think i'm lashing out at you because of a SHIP?
you're definitely a child. i hope that you realize how terrible this is one day. i also hope you don't allow anyone to ever treat you like this.
also you can't compare being racist to me calling you out?? that makes no sense. anyways i argue with trolls for fun but im over this aha. i hope you come to realize how awful and degrading this type of mindset can be.
That’s legit not the reason why I’m yelling at you. I don’t care if your ship is different. Im yelling at you because you’re romanticizing AN ACTUAL RAPIST. You’re making excuses for yourself at this point.
...... hmmmmm ......K. (^^)/~~~
......... Hmmmm K. what do u wanna hear let know so u could rest in piece
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"Hmmm what if he tried to killed himself in front of Chiwoo in the hospital maybe then he will see that his really sorry and didn't meant that to happen then later he will finally be good a guy coz seriously lack of communication is what lead to these mess." what. w h a t. "tried to kill himself in front of Chiwoo" w h a t. that's what manipulators do. they mess with your feelings like this. it ain't "romantic" or "cute" and it really sucks. its terrible and you feel trapped and guilty. you feel as if you have to be with them or else its your fault that they do something as crazy as hurting themselves. im sorry but like... n o. i just cant see it your way with this statement.
but feel whatever you want about this im just saying what i think. we're free to have opinions on topics im just not very into the statement you made.
PREACH SIS
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Jihyun (ӦvӦ。)
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