ICE QUEEN's Topics (746)

waiting too :)

Being a top is subjective so you cant say both seem like tops to me when nothing determines whether someone is a top/bottom.

That doesn’t apply when it comes to fictional drawings like in yaoi. Often times, the one with the bigger dick tops. That’s how they go about it and that’s why people like to guess who might top based off the energy the artist is going for.

I personally think blondie looks like the top.

"Thats how they go about it" of course they do because they capitalise of off gay culture and turn things like top/bottom into stereotypical heteronormative terms. You should aknowledge that instead of just saying thats how they go about it.

its the white haired one i thought we all newthis already

Umm chill anyway.. I do think blondie is giving me top vibes but from the dream iam guessing the top is the black hair guy.

Proof!???? FML I am gonna stop reading if he's top

Give it a rest, you're wasting your breath. That's one of the reason fujoshis are negatively viewed. Especially when they got out of line and started narrow mindedly labeling everything into their fantasy. It's annoying to say the least.
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I'm just disappointed and fed up with these bigoted & ignorant people =_= + they didn't even aknowldeged what i said and willfully choose to be dumb. >Straight people really be getting too comfortable...

SPEAKING FACTS. THIS IGNORANT DUMB BITCHES DONT LISTEN THO

wait hold on you self aware or are you on our side?

@lazyparrot and @disappointed: whatever made you feel like your words meant something when I’m going by what’s the norm in yaoi is beyond me. Before you start calling people names like “ignorant,” why don’t you start by paying attention to the fact that we’re discussing bedroom positions as per the way it’s generally portrayed in yaoi instead of getting all up in your feelings about how that’s not not how it works in real life. I’m too perplexed to even be mad, this shxt ridiculous.

I dont think u understood anything we have said sorry but if being called ignorant hurt u its probably cuz its true. God damn it, i know we are fighting over somthing not so important in your eyes but it still is so wrong to even discuss things like these when they negatively affect the queer community because they affect ur subconscious mind, i know thats how yaoi portrays top or bottom but it was literally written by straight women who dont know shit about gay men so we should all stop using these stereotypicall terms all together+ i dont care if yaoi portrays them like that its still wrong

… yeah, hurt isn’t the word to describe how I feel. Annoyed is more like it. Annoyed because the top commenter was simply asking themselves a question based off what they know of yaoi. And now basically what you’re saying, is you took your own annoyance at how yaoi isn't a good representation of the gay community on the rest of us and decided to call people ignorant as if this was a platform meant for that specific topic: the misunderstanding of straight women toward the gay community.

If you want to start such a topic, then open or search for a platform that’s meant for it. At least there, you’ll have someone give you appropriate responses and maybe counter what you have to say by going about how yaoi was ironically created by women FOR women “and is distinct from homoerotic media marketed to gay men.” I remember researching it a long time ago because I was curious about the reason why girls, regardless of their sexual orientation, loved it. I mean if you’re going to criticize something, try to see where it’s coming from before jumping down people’s throats about what it is you believe they don’t understand.

I understand y’all are mad because you see it as a misrepresentation of your community, but how about understanding its origins as well? Then if you’re still mad, then that’s on you. But I personally found respect for the subject matter by understanding what led to it and how it was a helpful tool of sorts for women in Japan a long time ago.

Here’s a link if you’re interested at all:

https://www.quora.com/What-makes-the-yaoi-genre-appealing-to-women

There’s probably more source material out there.

ik why they read it

First of i never critisized girls for reading BL, never said it was wrong, anybody can read it im not gatekeeping anything, but i just dont want these discussion being made (whos the top/bottom when they havent had sex or if its shounen ai because it really is hurtful towards the gay community).
I've also done my research and i know more than you think, i know its origin very well, and i dont have a problem with it.
Where i draw the line is here + dont twist my words to fit your own intentions i never said yaoi is a bad representation i was talking about the seme/uke situation and straight people getting to comfortable with these terms!
Hope this helps clear up the misunderstandings we had.

I mean nothing about the very first comment you dropped reflected that this was your thought process. And even so, you’d have a point if people were getting comfortable with those terms when they weren’t addressing a yaoi they were reading. But you went off about how we don’t know shxt as if we were discussing that in an entirely different setting. So this makes it even more puzzling to me.

Anyway, I said my piece and that’s that.

Actually, my bad. Before you go off on me again: It wasn’t your first reply the problem. The problem was that we were having two completely different conversations (you were mad at a term being used, I didn’t know that and replied for the sake of what the first commenter meant and then you went off about ignorance and what not). It spiraled from there.

baby?-

What?????

why stop reading just cause hes a top-

Ou okay so it was just a misunderstanding on our parts, I probably overreacted a bit so sorry about that!

Because its cringe

odd

Waste of space

I know it's a bit late to enter this discussion but..
I'm going to guess you are a gay man. You are wrong. Now I'm not saying that all gay man have a preferred position, but I know for a fact that some do. I also remember hearing that out there you can actually find statistics on who prefers the passive role and who the active.
Now, nobody in real life who is also a decent person will ever go to a couple and ask: "are you a top or a bottom?"
But for F*** sake if someone asks the question on a manga you don't get to do whatever you felt entitled to back there.
There is a time and place for such discussion, but I don't think it's under a media that is written by women (mostly I'm guessing) for women.
Or what you think we all think that gay man that like taking the passive role are like those princess like ukes that so many artist like to draw in this genere?

Straight people getting comfortable with these terms, dear god you are a child and it shows.

NOBODY IN REAL LIFE DISCUSSES ABOUT THEIR PREFERRED SEX POSITIONS IF IT'S NOT A PERSON THEY ARE REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH

You wanna know how I know? Because I'm a f** adult
Grow up

Sigh.. thank u for saying that tbh iam not good with my english since it not my first language and iam too lazy to reply. I only ask simple question and expect simple answer. Iam talking about what happend in manga not in real life. I dont randomly and i never ask my gay best friend till now. who is top or bottom it

Also Pls stop commenting. Iam too lazy to reply and i feel like deleting my comment if it really is that offensive

yea I wasn't replaying to you, I was replaying to the other guy. It just so happened that it was underneath your post