Spoil me.
Who is that crazy looking hwangchan or whatever dude at end of ch 50? I skipped to it.
—And how toxic is ML; spoil me why he’s toxic
—Spoil me anything else idc
I'm camping here. Have the same questions.
It's someone related to the MC's accident. He probably tried to hook MC up with some sponsor but he tried to run away and fell down, causing him to lose his memory.
he's a guy from ML's past. seems like he's jelly of the ML.
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he introduced some spons to MC. MC ended up getting beaten and r*ped. Implied in raws that the guy ended up not taking any responsibilities and no one is punished from what happened in mc. MC was hospitalized when ML is looking for him and called as ML's granny died. Eventually, MC decided to contact ML but ML became unreachable and moved house. He then found posters of ML on the streets. When he got home, he was lost in thought and it was implied that he jumped from the balcony.
This is the gist i got from the image and MTL-ing the raws.
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ML is toxic until he found out what happened to mc. ML is toxic to MC because he thought MC abandoned him during their HS days. He didn't know that smtg happened with MC. He has no idea that MC was hospitalized during his granny's wake.
Damn wtf that’s sad, and a big misunderstanding. How far into the chapters are we out of this misunderstanding?
9 chapters to go
Okay, not bad I guess. Thank you btw!!
np. I'm looking forward for the official TL of the flashback since I'm quite confused on some parts.
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It was implied that it was ML who asked the guy to introduced an acting academy director to MC. But of course, the guy introduced a scumbag who eventually became a spons to MC. MC felt conflicted being sponsored but has very low esteem, he seems to believed that if he's really good at acting, he would have been famous by then. Flashback starts at ch62
Is there only one ML? I heard MC sleeps with all Owens? Or is there more than one ML? Undetermined?
If more than one ML, are other MLs okay with sharing?
Not a big fan of jealous MLs.
And one of the Owen was pregnant? How did that work, you’d think the one getting it would bepregnan
ML is plural. One main body but 4 other clones with different personalities but all of their memories r connected to the main one. Ml is possessive. Even if its his clones.Its aliens so no use thinking abt the mpreg.
What the heek. Aliens and mpreg make sense.
Thank you!!
So they’re all just one ML.
Yes and no. They still have different personalities so they feel like different people and ML doesn't help since hes the one feeling jealous against his own clones. But since all the clone's memories go back to main one, it is kinda only one ML.
That’s so weird, but it reminds me of the world hopping Chinese BLs where there’s different MLs every world the MC goes into, but then at the last arc, the ML’s souls combine into one.
Thank you! I see it as one ML then.
About the other uke (dark green haired) named Yeonwu? And the brother named Taehwan of main story’s ML:
—How many chapters estimated is their story? I remember it went up to more than 123 chapters, so how many chapters is it for them?
—Didn’t Yeonwu eventually give up on Taehwan and slept around for comfort? Or did he sleep around even before?
—I remember Taehwan was a playboy and asshole. Didn’t he sleep around too?
—People say Taehwan has the best character development. Really? I’m excited to read it again. I remember dropping it around 100 something chapter. Taehwan lowkey was pathetic chasing after Yeonwu.
- Around 100+ chps
- He didnt, hes just heartbroken— he did have this one guy whom he had sex with but before he met taehwan again but after they argued again, yeonwu didnt go around searching for another men
- Its not technically sleeping around or being a playboy, hes just a people pleaser— if you read his backstory it makes sensee why he acts like they way he acts
- Yes. Taehwa did have the beat character development along yeonwu, they healed together, and each other and is living okay now leaving their past behind them
If u wanna read it, read it here—
https://pawmanga.com/manga/banana-scandal/
Thank you!!!
Everyone’s the dumb one for thinking Hyesung is a dumb ass. Almost everything Hyesung has done, I am 99% sure that almost every reader has done at least once or more in their lifetime. I have not fully remembered the main story, so feel free to correct me or add something, I won’t be mean. I’m welcoming!
Hyesung knows he did wrong with some of his actions and sayings in the past. Dude literally passed the GED despite not receiving proper stable education, went through heaps of conflict (rape, anxiety/mental health issues, having to face someone that abandoned him in the past, feeling intense guilt over temporarily abandoning Byul in the past, etc) and still managed to be a friendly person who forgave or was lenient on a bunch of shits that were shits in the past.
If I remember correctly, Dojin’s best friend I believe Heeseo was the one that encouraged Hyesung to hide or run away, or both after Hyesung became severely anxious and ran away after giving birth. Instead of having a proper guidance for once in his life, he had to deal with people like that. What about Chowon? He had guys almost gang rape Hyesung. Almost everyone in his damn life didn’t give a shit, but were they forgiven and became a bit closer? Yes.
But readers can’t forgive and forget some of Hyesung’s
irrational behavior, huh?
If I was Hyesung, I would’ve jumped everyone one by one in the past timeline before I can settle down. And the grandmother would’ve been 6 feet under dirt (I’m playing) if she tried to guilt trip me.
gurl thank you for explaining, im pissed too but i cant put it into word it'll probably full of cursing, they can't understand it to the fullest, guess they didnt read the story properly
THIS!!!!! it pisses me off how people be shitting on hyesung while forgetting that he is a literal VICTIM!!!
I used to be this downbad for Hyesung too...we do recover. Some people just won't listen, no matter what you say.
What do you mean down bad? If you mean in that way, no no, haha! I just wish people had comprehension skills and least bit of empathy.
Even if they didn’t read properly, you’d think they have empathy at least. What a sad person!
Victim of mental health, abandonment, and rape and another form of SA. But he managed to stay friendly and forgave all of them (besides grammar).
If I could thumbs up your comment 1000 times I would!!! So many ukes go thru so much and no one cuts them any slack on how they turn out because of it. It's sick and twisted!!!!!
geez why can't you let be ppl feel annoyed. just because they feel that way doesn't mean you have too. tbh I was really annoyed hyesung during "If you hate me so" and the early chapters of "Love is an illusion". but that's that. don't take it personally. let just people feel what they want.
@Nyt (you didn’t have to block me):
I never said they can’t be annoyed by his actions. I was too. I’m just saying the bias is too crazy. People go on about their day and excuse what some characters did, annoying behaviors, but act like Hyesung committed a crime.
Don’t take it personally because of what I said. This is how I feel, so let me feel this way please. All I ask if for some sympathy/empathy from people and not be so harsh. That’s different from being annoyed.
Being annoyed is fine. Hating is too much considering we do things Hyesung has, annoying behaviors and words he’s said.
okay but you do realize that feeling annoyed towards a victim of rape/abuse and not the actual rapists and abusers is not a good thing right
Thank you. I’m not even telling them to NOT BE ANNOYED, but acting this way towards a victim is not right and feels really wrong. Is giving sympathy or empathy hard? And they should take their own advice: let others feel how they want. Lmao.
nah hes an idiot. even knowing that he already changed as an omega, he still put himself into compromising situation and continue to never learn...and still contiues to be stubborn. are you sure we are reading the same webtoon? read it again. seme have to do a lot of things to win him over (like giving him money). I never liked him and still do.
@nyt
I don’t think YOU read. What do you mean seme has to give him money? He gave him a lot like supporting with education and encouraging it. Hyesung was able to have some familial love thanks to meeting Dojin.
I thought people liked toxic tops. How toxic is this ML for everyone to wanna jump him? Spoil me! I don’t wanna read it if y’all hate him this much, plus I have 100+ to read in progress.
Toxic?? More dumb assh ml
Not worth to read tbh
Ml steals his fate and then fucks him and pretends to be his savior. There is nothing this seme can do to make it up to the mc. I hope they break up the dude is so creepy to me and unhinged no chasing arc just get out of there. I feel gross watching them fuck it just is too fucked up to forgive.
Does mc find out? Lemme guess he still stays.
He hasn't found out yet but I doubt it will make them break up for real
I think this writer was looking for a shocking hook to gain readers but didn't think to make the action redeemable.
I don't think this will get better and I only come back and skim every few chaps. It's full of tropes which I usually eat up but this writer does them so badly
I think people like toxic tops when they are hot. Not the goggle-eyed, opened mouth that spits only insults. There is no real reason for the mc to like him.
I personally don’t like calling Hyesung and Byul dumb but they are at times. Especially with what Hyesung has gone through (rape, abandoned by mother, no education etc), it’s annoying to simply call him dumb. It pisses me off bad! I just don’t think they’re actual dumb people who can’t understand what a name is.
Byul in this case has been heavily sheltered by his parents, he is also privileged to have wealthy parents who can cater to his every needs and wants. That’s big reasons why he’s probably slow in the head.
As for Hyesung, it’s probably due to the lack of education and parental love. This is why I cannot support the grandmother of Byul (mother of Hyesung). Sorry, it’s just how I feel. Correct me if I’m wrong in the lack of education part. I just remember Hyesung attending school to graduate, thanks with the support of Dojin. So I assumed Hyesung was a drop out or didn’t do much of school.
People don’t realize how hurtful it is to be abandoned by own parents. I wonder if the moment when Hyesung left Byul to Dojin will come up, and if Byul will find out. Because Byul seems to be interested in spending time with the grandmother who abandoned Hyesung.
Perhaps the abandonment from grandmother and the temporary abandonment from Hyesung will come into play in the future. Maybe, after this conflict, the grandmother and Hyesung will try to be on good terms and Hyesung lets Byul see grandmother.
Byul will be the bridge in mending their relationship? I hope not. It’s not right, it doesn’t feel right. It feels wrong. And I don’t remember well but wasn’t Dojin supporting the grandmother too? Sigh.
I assume there will be conflicts before the possible reunion of grandmother and Hyesung:
• Scenario that I most believe will happen: Hyesung gets angry when he finds out that Byul has been seeing his mother. And refuses to let Byul visit his grandmother, causing Byul to be upset at Hyesung. Then, Byul finds out the reason why his grandmother and Hyesung are not on good terms: abandonment.
Hyesung feels bad about the drama, and soon comes clean about abandoning Byul after birth, running away out of fear.
Scenario: Byul will either feel angry but comes to understand Hyesung quickly, why Hyesung left and understands that Hyesung was afraid.
Or he will give Hyesung the silent treatment. Like how can I bring up the topic of my mother abandoning me, being upset about it, and then my son later finds out that I had also abandoned him temporarily, and came back — only quicker than my mother did?
I don’t remember how Hyesung and Byul’s dynamic is. In the main story, I remember Hyesung being unsure of how to take care of Byul who was a baby at the time. And Byul would cry whenever with him.
I definitely feel like Dojin is more of the “good caretaker” whereas Hyesung is carefree with Byul and doesn’t seem to worry as much when Byul was out late. It kind of makes sense why Hyesung is like this, he’s never really had time to grow up, no family and little education. Not that I condone. But this is just assumptions based on my poor memory.
Also, this is shounen ai and alpha x alpha (confirmed by author). So, no smut. Plus they’re teens, barely of adult age. Adult age in Korea is 19, and both the main couple here is 17.
TLDR, anyways I think they have broached that subject with Byul gently bc in the very first chap you see Hyesung crying and refusing to hold his daughter after birth with byul still in room bc he didn't hold Byul after his birth when Hyesung ran away for some time. I think Hyesung kind of fell in a pattern to over-comp Byul for abandoning him after birth.
The reconcilation, Dojin kind of tried. But Hyesung strongly refused to see her. He wants nothing to do with either of his bio-parents. I doubt that'd change after he too abandoned his own child but he couldn't live with himself. He regreted that decision a lot. Dojin is in a way doing Hyesung's filial duty for him as his spouse by supporting his bio-mom. Or may be he simply feels bad for her bc she too was a victim of Hyesung's abusive father. Tbh, the author should have left Hyesung's mom alone, may be they will try for reconcilation and are trying to show character growth in Hyesung after having two kids of his own.
And I would not call Hyesung dumb, he was really good at math. When he decided to take his GED, he did very well in it. He also enrolled into a college while he was raising Byul. I am proud of him. He may be a bit emotionally, intellectually and physically stunted bc his parents were shit and he very much lived on hsi friend's couch for some time. But Dojin made sure to fill in as much as he can once he knew the situation.
Idt Hyesung is being "carefree" kind of parent bc he grew up in some sort of way, it is a common pattern among couples when one partner is too immersed in their child's life the other partner has to step in and remind them to let loose a little. The kind of parent that acts as buffer. And it is pretty common for teenagers to hate their parents for interference in their life so he isn't wrong.
I guess I meant to say another word than carefree. I meant more that Hyesung, based on my poor memory (again), he seems less worried about Byul being out a little late. While Dojin seems too worried. Even before being parents, Hyesung is the same.
Not that it’s bad! It’s just interesting with how different the parents are. And I love how Hyesung is personally, he doesn’t need to do a 180. Byul definitely got some mannerism/external factors from Hyesung. And yeah, I wouldn’t say Hyesung is dumb when it comes to education, he didn’t really get a chance to show his potential due to struggles. As you said, it’s more of the non academic little stunts, which is perfectly explainable with how he grew up.
Lack of social support (especially from family who abandoned him emotionally and physically), which is quite detrimental to an individual’s well being.
That’s honestly why I’m not really interested in the grandmother. She was abused so I have some sympathy in that regard, it’s explainable why she behaved a certain way and left. But not justifiable that she left and abandoned her kid.
I don’t know exactly how to feel about the scenario where Hyesung might interfere with Byul visiting his grandmother. I do feel that Byul shouldn’t continue hiding that secret.
But I’m sure it’ll be revealed once the conflict of reunion and Byul possibly asking why it’s the way it is arises.
Honestly, I don’t want the reunion to happen. Sometimes it’s best to just cut off contact with parents that abandoned you for years. If it will, it should be satisfying. I don’t think that the author will make it a quick forgiveness. This is just how I feel, coming from my own personal dealings with abandonment. I guess what bothers me is Dojin trying to do filial duty when he knows Hyesung doesn’t want her involved, and now his son is hiding it in secret. But I know neither of them meant harm, so it’s difficult to blame.
I don’t think a parent should hold their child back from visiting grandparents due to their past conflict, but then again…eh, I don’t know.
The author probably will push for a scenario where everyone is happy and family gets back together, honestly i was kinda icked by how absolutely freaking everybody gets a partner, and that no one is alone for some reason in this story. It feels very happily ever after and a little unrealistic
I feel that a happy ending for Hyesung is not seeing his mother. The mother who abandoned him almost his whole life, and was living happily with her new family (if I recalled that right).
Not every relationship needs to be perfect. If they will reunite, there better not be any fast developments haha…
It would be realistic to cut off parents. Even if there are cultural plays in this, it’s not impossible to cut parents off. I think what gets to me the most is others making decisions for Hyesung, or to rephrase it: seeing the grandmother when they know Hyesung is quite uncomfortable.
I hope there’s a scenario where Hyesung tells Dojin firmly about where he stands with the grandmother situation possibly, but doubt it cause he loves Dojin and Vice versa. Too cute married couple, unable to keep their hands off each other even in conflict!
I also think that Hyesung can’t force Byul to stop seeing his grandmother. So it’s up to Byul once he finds out the reason for their family separation. He might be pissed off at the grandmother and limit his interactions with her, this is the best outcome if not the cut off route.
People were pretty chill (not really but more so than this) with Yiyoung “borderline cheating” (not cheating but felt like it due to the way Yiyoung was behaving, knowing the other dude apparently likes him. Yiyoung lied but quickly went over, and told the truth. Of course Kang reacted too harshly). But once this reveal of Doyeon liking Kang happened, WA BOOM I don’t like it.
Doyeon pissed me off so much earlier out of the three, I won’t lie. And I just think instead of jealousy, Kang can realize how much he wants Yiyoung to be his forever in another way instead of realizing through jealousy. It feels shallow to realize love through jealousy.
Jealousy trope is overused, childish, and annoying. I don’t like seeing my partner jealous, I want to make sure they are loved and know that. Why do some people enjoy making someone jealous?
Kang isn’t even a bad person (besides some moments) in the fiction world. That’s probably why I don’t like the jealousy on his face, it feels uncomfortable.
THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE JEALOUS AND CHASE AFTER MC IS: Jaekyung from Jinx, and so many other trash MLs that play around, don’t apologize or own up to their mistakes, etc.
Also, hate me but Dan is annoying. I need to see him run away from Jaekyung, and don’t take him back easily. Jaekyung deserves to boil himself in jealousy and regret.
Jaekyung can fall in a ditch. Stupid parentless man.
There are many right points you make. I Just think that the jealousy trope makes sense because of two Things: Our cute MC IS really childish and doesn't know much about relationships - a Problem on its own, but oh well... And Mr Kang never felt like that before. He was always Dating older women who left him at some point and he was mature about it. Him realising he can't deal with the same rn means more to him than any bad, toxic seme who doesn't deserve happiness.
Yeah, it’s childish is my point. I think Kang is quite mature and so is Yiyoung in his own way (emotion management, accountability, etc). But both are also childish.
After reading the spoilers, I’m sad for the first time that the second ML isn’t the endgame. ML is absolutely disgusting. MC went back to ML despite trying to run away with the second ML twice. I won’t be reading this.
The one that could’ve made MC at ease and happy, second ML, let MC go for his own sake.
I usually side with the endgame, but this one, no.
a lot of ppl were saying the second ML is the one who killed his mother so i don't think i can agree with you on this
so, did he loved de second ML? once rt but twice?ahh
Oh if that’s so, then alright. Besides that, he is way better than ML in almost every aspects. I haven’t caught up fully so yeah.
No, he's not the one who killed his mother. Garon did, I've read the spoilers from the novel.
No, I read spoilers that Garon is the one who kills his mother. Garon is scum through and through
Ohh, thank you! Cause I didn’t remember second ML with any motives of hurting the family, he didn’t even know them if I remember correctly and tried to help. So I wasn’t sure and figured it’s in the raws that second ML is confirmed to be the killer of the mother.
Thanks!!
oh wow guess i'm dropping this too
nvm chat apparently im wrong
Not the “chat”
uh okay...
It wasn’t serious.
ok.
Isn’t this basically ML and MC from Night Song, except their positions have changed.
that's what I was gonna say.