While I liked the changes to Edric in the manhwa compared to the novel (he's less vicious and less purposely cruel compared to the novel), I can't say I like the changes to Millie or Francis.
The whole second male lead subplot that didn't exist in the novel, undercuts Millie's motivation and drive. Bc in the novel, MILLIE ran away on her own, SHE did it by herself, SHE carved out a new life for herself without anyone's help.
She threw Edric away. Although someone stole her ring and it did sadden her, her ring being stolen by a woman is what made ppl believe she was dead.
Can someone explain the Guide of Sin to me and how they work? I'm just so confused. They stop ppl from climbing bc why?
I also don't understand how solo mode works. So all these "NPCs" like the ghost, dwarf Smith, the witch that's learning magic, the Guide of Sin captains etc, are also available in the other solo mode player's tower? Bc they have to be since the other two met that one knight that followed the goddess of beauty(?) earlier in the story.
The solo mode is confusing for me too ╥﹏╥ How I understood it was that they were challengers once, but gave up their freedom to seek power ; and now they're anchored in the tower and can't go out ? But then does it mean they exist in each solo mode, so if Taehan kills them it won't change the other solo modes ? Or is it the same tower for these characters, it's just the challengers that are ?
And if I remember well the Guide of Sin are just monopolizing ressources to go further in the Tower ; that way they pressure every newcomer to join them (or die). They function on a hierarchy based on the floor you're in : the 20s, 30s, 40s, etc. The higher ups are the most influential and powerful (they're the ones we see talking in the round table in this chapter 109)
Sorry if my response isn't accurate it's been a while I've been reading this
So what I understand from the guides of sin is similar to @tea dealer, basically they want to monopolize resources and are scared of losing their lives by risking climbing further in the tower and want to cling on to the power that they have. To ensure they remain in power, they don't want to have to deal with other challengers becoming too strong and opposing them, so they try to get rid of them if they won't join their cause.
As for solo mode, I think of it as almost parallel universes, each player is in their own "universe" of the tower. The NPCs exist in all of these towers, but I'm not sure if Taesan's NPCs will have awareness of others in solo mode. Iirc though, they're all immortal after having signed contracts in the tower, so while they are bound to the tower & the god they follow, I don't think they can be killed by any of the players climbing the tower. Hope that makes sense!
Thanks for the explanation. I guess my hang up is the ghost and Guide of Sin are/were players. Are they unique to Taesan's tower, or do they also exist in the other solo mode's tower? That's what's confusing me.
During the tea scene where Millie asks why did they get married, Edric in the novel says, "If you stop whining like a child and play the role of a wise wife like you are now, I think I can believe the feeling (of love) I felt back then wasn't an illusion." When Millie says nothing in response, he shoos her off and says if she has nothing else to add, he would like her to leave him alone. His reasoning? He was stressed out from subduing the rumors and newspapers of Millie's infertility. He had to fight the royal family to get the articles removed. And he ended up taking his frustration on Millie (kinda implying she doesn't even know the difficulties he had to go through in order to keep her happy. She should be grateful~)
Millie's disappearance:
Felton gifted her an estate. It was an apology for his harsh words when she asked about why they got married. However, right before she got the papers of ownership, she overhear Felton and her MIL talking and found out she's infertile, so the MILk suggested Felton get a mistress. Millie assumed Felton wanted to her to move to the countryside so he can have a mistress at the main house. While she goes to his office to tear up the paper, she finds Felton's drafted divorce papers. She signs it, tucks it back into its secret place, and immediately runs away. She lies to the staff and said she's taking a carriage to the Marchioness (the art patron). No one thinks anything of it. Felton comes home, exhausted, and asks where is Millie? The staff replies and Felton is like okay. Takes a bath, relaxes, and when a few hours pass and Millie is still not in sight, does he then realize something is wrong. He thought Millie was late from coming home bc of the rain. Instead of being worried of her safety, he was annoyed at first. He thought he needed to give Millie a firm warning about come home on time and ordered a carriage to be ready so he can go pick her up himself. When he arrives at the Marchioness', she says Millie never arrived at the appointment, which isn't like her. Millie actually got off the carriage halfway through and decided to walk the rest of the way. And it's during this time she goes missing with the staff being oblivious and inattentive to Millie.
Another scene that wasn't included during Millie's run away arc is that Felton goes to Millie's academy friend's house to see if maybe Millie was there. He finds out the friend was just using Millie so decides to ruin the husband's business.
Felton starts to feel guilt and wonder if what he said to her about "it was love" and if she acted more obedient befitting a duchess was too harsh. But then he is like Millie wouldn't leave home bc of that. She's not so weak to be hurt by his words...right? Even if he was hurtful to hear, Millie smiled the day after and fixed his clothes, and said she would do better. He convinces himself Millie wasn't such a weak and narrow minded woman to leave him over something so minor. He convinces himself that Millie probably fell asleep somewhere while taking shelter from the rain. She's probably home by now and fidgeting while waiting for him. He'll be magnimous enough to forgive her and nod scold her for making him worry. Then he'll apologize for what he said about not loving her anymore.
A month goes by, and his life goes on as normal. He secretly is searching for her but does not put any news or ads out bc he doesn't want to ruin his family reputation.
As he's rummaging through his paper, he finally finds the divorce papers with millie's signature. It is then he realizes why millie ran away. He puts out an ad finally about her disappearance.
3 more months go by since he started advertising for Millie. By now, Millie has been gone 4 months. And I should clarify here. I misremembered the events. It takes about 6 months before Felton finds out "Millie" is dead. Not that he didn't try to find her for 6 months.
Anyway, oh poor, wittle Felton~ His impeccable manners and reputation goes down the drain bc he's pining for Millie. The women of the aristocracy swarm to his home, hoping to become the new duchess, but he's being mean to them! Kicks them out of his home and threatens to ruin their family if they try to seduce him again. He bans women from entering the dukedom ever again. Woe is, Felton! Ppl are gossiping about how crazy he's become.
He goes to Milrod Square, the place where he stood Millie up in the rain. He stands alone in the square and FINALLY, after 4 months, regrets standing Millie up. He starts crying.
5 months after Millie's disappearance, Felton begins to deteriorate (oh boo hoo). He becomes listless, making more mistake at work. He broke his glasses (bc in the diary, Millie said she wanted to be his glasses and so he broke his glasses in some convoluted reasoning Millie needs to be the one to help him see). He was losing contracts and being excluded from important political deals. His entire life's work was unraveling, but Felton didn't care bc only Millie mattered. Nothing else did. Without his glasses, his falls down the stairs, but even as his head is bleeding, he has no reaction (okay, so?)
He orders for a carriage so he can go back to the square to hopefully even find a trace of Millie. But then, when he mistakes someone for her, he gets disappointed. He decides to injury himself. He got a thought in his head. If he gets hurt, wouldn't Millie show up? No matter how much she hates him, she would come back if she heard about his accident right? He thinks maybe Millie regrets leaving him, but is too embarrassed to come back. That made him feel better. Millie will come running back to him with tears on her face and blame herself for his injury. The idea of dying didn't deter him. After all, he is good as dead without Millie (barf!!). So Felton PURPOSELY runs into traffic and gets run over by a carriage.
Anyway, Felton almost died. His body was crushed and he needed 5 blood transfusion. Then the infection almost kills him. 2 months goes by after his accident before he is able to walk again (So this is about 7 months after Millie's disappearance). His accident was a big deal, to the point the imperial family cancelled events. But of course Millie didn't visit him. Felton gets angry. How dare Millie abandon him! He will find her and bring her back, even if it means chaining her up.
The events of Felton confronting his mother is a little different, but essentially he finds out his mother has been poisoning Millie and she is the reason Millie miscarried. He banishes his mother from the estate and revokes the title of duchess from her. Also, while yes, the mom wants him to remarry a noble, the countess didn't play a big role. Francis, also does not have a big part either. He felt sorry for Millie, and he felt like he was the reason Millie ended up marrying Felton and living a miserable life bc he purposely provoked Felton's possessive jealousy. So, like the manhwa, he offered to be her wingman and provoke Felton's jealousy again to respark their passion. When Millie refused him, he told her to watch what she's eating bc she's showing signs of poisoning. That's the extent of his part in the manhwa.
About a week goes by after he kicks the mom out and a man visits the estate and says he cremated Millie. It is only "confirmed" as Millie bc the driver said recognized Millie, and that the person he cremated wore Millie's ring. Once Millie's urn arrived, Felton looked relaxed and relieved, much to the staff's shock (and disgust).
Unlike Felton, Oz did not believe the urn belonged to Millie. She questions and badgers the guy until the guy confessed that he doesn't remember the face well. Only that she was petite, had brown hair, and had a ring on her middle finger. Oz brightens up, realizing then the corpse that was cremated CAN'T be Millie, bc the ring should be on her ring finger. Millie keeps the news to herself, and even pretends to cry when they received the urn bc she feels Millie is finally free from this miserable life.
As Millie is tiding up Millie's room, the butler interrupts her with a funeral invitation he received from Felton. Felton wrote a funeral invitation for both Millie's and HIS funeral. Realizing his intention, the run to Felton's room and they find him with a gun to his temple, ready to kill himself.
Aaaand this is about where the manhwa is. So I'll stop here to avoid spoilers
Like I said, novel Edric is the scum of the earth. I hate him SO MUCH. The manhwa actually softened him up a bit and he doesn't save half as much the hurtful things his novel counterpart does.
wait no, tell me more. Im too lazy to read the novel
Thank youu
Girl thank you so much i was just about to read this nevermind lol
Wow. I thought they only changed how Millie ran away and how Felton reacted. But they're adding a whole new 2nd ML plot. In the novel, Francis only sympathized with her. He stayed in the capital as an artist and also had no idea where she ran off to. The only person that knew Millie was alive was Oz, and that's bc Oz deduced Millie was alive from the bits and pieces of news that she discovered. Not bc Millie sent her a letter.
Dude, knew it was a had idea to send a coward with them. Already knew he'd be a liability.
They got no choice. Tbh better than that money hungry guy as he's cunning and dangerous. At least blondie is just a coward and not evil
They didn't need to bring a second guy at all. If they no one wanted to go, then forcing them is just going to be more of a hindrance when they're paralyzed by fear.
They felt they needed equal number of men to women, for physically strength help. In case they need to carry someone (1 man to carry 1 woman) or lift something
And look where that got them. The guy alerted the zombies by dropping the crow bar and started the car alarm, panicked and threatened to get them all killed if he wasn't the one on the tree, then almost got himself and the MC killed when he fell off the tree.
I'm sorry, but this "dilemma" of her's is dumb. If she is really concern about her "use" then talk to sion. She's unnecessarily burdening the staff. If she really wants to do something and be of help, talk to the owner of the estate then. Sheesh.
Exactly. Nobody wants to lose their job because of her. I know she means well but she's embarrassing herself. A simple chat with her friend the owner of the estate, will suffice.
I see where you all are coming from, but also she's been a nobel lady all of her lives. She never succeeded in running away and living an ordinary life. This is a very logical outcome for her to think about and for why the maids and everyone is rejecting her. Yes she could talk to Sion, but there's a sudden power shift, and she probably wants to find a solution herself rather than bother Sion. Not the best solution, but a reasonable one to think of when you're in that situation. She also probably thinks that one day she'll get kicked out, or that she'll be stuck in the role of a guest. No one wants to impede on others forever (though she did just fine at the Countess' house... Which is probably the only logical flaw. But she also knew she'd leave in a year, so there was a deadline and a purpose.) maybe I just relate because I've been in a similar situation
The part where she was fine at the countesses house threw me off too bcuz she was so comfy there as she knew sion would come for her eventually which is why it seems so unusual that now that the time has come she’s suddenly doubting her place in sions house. If becoming a burden was such a big concern for her why did she not think ahead during those years how she would live in his mansion as a guest so plan ahead a job for herself to not feel like a burden when the time of his return actually arrived. Think it’s just a poor device plot from the author tbh to get sion to comfort her later once he finds out
:/ I thought of it as her thinking she was gonna be kicked out or leave that estate eventually but before she had to go she wanted to learn how to do *some* kind of skill not her taking someone's job
The flaw I find is that she is fine asking the staff rather than Sion. This would've solved itself if she went to Sion from the start bc either he can ask the staff to teach her a skill or ease her mind that she won't get kicked out. I find it frustrating when authors make characters dumb for no reason. And like you said, she had no problem living as a guest at the countess'
You really said it all. I wanna like her so bad because the art and plot are so interesting, but she can never manage to not be dumb for 2 chapters back to back. She has died like 7 times and never once thought "I should learn a skill so I can live independently". But now all of a sudden she's getting ideas?? Just sit down and talk to your friend lady.
Just read the latest chapter (194) of Desire Me if You Can, and the author explicitly states Joshua is 185cm.
Grayson and Dane were introduced as being sex addicts or at least plowing through ppl like a truck. But through their story, they only had sex maybe 3 times. Chase and Joshua had more sex than them, and Chase was a virgin lol
In this story they learned abstinence.:D An important lesson for Dane.lol Spoiler
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Grayson was cursed after he saw Venus, Virginia only wanted Dane.XD
I was surprised that Dane graped Grayson.lol
I still think that Dane is the worst of them all.:D
And Joshua was bad, too. Better keep their mouths shut around Chase.:D
But Grayson really had an incredible development.^^
Haha chapter 195 was hilarious. Poor Chase. Guy was turning pale from hearing about Joshua's wild days clubbing.
Yes, those two were digging their own graves infront of Grayson and Chase.lol As you mentioned Chase, the poor guy, was a virgin and only slept with Josh.^^ Spoiler
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And he also has to hear that Dane (Grayson's Partner!) even got his secretary Laura.XD
And remember Grayson who tracked down Dane at that night club for two weeks to stop him from cheating on him?lol
But weird, at least the male children of Ash and Koi go after promiscuous male partners.
I read in spoilers that Chrissy (lol it's still kind of cute nickname to me, so weird), is also like this and even had a partner? But not sure, there were also spoilers that Chrissy would get turned, but he is still a beta here, hmmmm.....
And females, we only know of Larien...and her 8 or 9 wives.lol Nothing on Stacy so far.
I don't think we know about Bliss either, the only dominant omega out their 6 children.
Spoilers, the colering of Ashley, but looks like Koi or something like that. His health is not the best
and the press calls him poisoness marshmellow.
From what I read in spoilers, don't know if it's true his pair will be beta. Someone older than him, he knew for years. A doctor of a teacher.
The author announced two extras for DMIYC, one short and one long (with the tag that has been removed before...). The short one will be released very soon, the longer one will take time. And we know she'll start to release another novel next month, so that really means we have to wait for that one.
Yeah, I'm waiting for the side stories for DMIYC. Been refreshing the page like crazy.
Not super interested in Nathaniel's story but we will see. Maybe it'll surprise me.
Yes, Nathaniel's story, for me it will largely depend on Chrissy Jeans character.
A partner like Josh or Dane wouldn't really fit what we know of Nathaniel, and one like Koi won't fit either. But i don't want another mess like KML, so please not like Yeonwoo.
The question is how simelar will he be to Ashley Dawson? Well, he is alive, healthy, and not locked up. But I wonder how they avoid the turning to an omega, because I understood he is still a beta. And they must be together for more than 1 1/2 years or so, because in Grayson's story more than a year passed.
YEAH! KML, while interesting enough, towards the latter half with the amnesia and pity party, it made me roll my eyes. I liked KMIYC and DMIYC a lot more than KML bc Josh and Dane, despite being omegas, took charge of the relationship and set the tone of how their relationship will be.
So yeah, it will depend on Chrissy's personality for me too.
The first extras are out.:)
"If you name my hole, I'll kill you".
I FREAKING CHOKED ON MY SPIT HAHAHA
Poor Dane, too late! If he could read thoughts....Grayson making poetry in is thoughts,
the main cast: V..., V..., and A....!XD I died of laughter when I read it.XD
Had to drop it at ch 10. The author is pushing Jinah too hard for my liking.
Damn. If the unnie didn't freak out last minute, she would've lived.
The novel is one of the more interesting novel. Too bad the manhwa sped up the pace. It doesn't skip scenes per se, but they don't put emphasis on the internal dialogue and stuff. I tried reading past what was translated using MTL, but once you get into the Murim arc, it got Google didn't know how to translate the murim terms. I kinda dropped it around when the MC created a female avatar of himself.
Do you perhaps still have the novel link?
https://fictionread.xyz/novel/679cb098710a480a206b7a4e
I personally found the novel really interesting when the original body went into coma, and each of the avatars gained their own autonomy, and Hans went off the deep end. When the OG went into a coma, you really get the sense how each avatar have their own personalities.
Thank you so much!! (●'◡'●)ﾉ
You're welcome! The translated novel is catching up to where I left off. Much it gets to the demon arc, I fully plan to continue reading. From where i left off, the MC is planning to migrate from his designated world to Murim.