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Gawd damn. IMO something like this should be required reading in some capacity, I think a lot of folks would be more tolerant if they realized what exactly people who go through SRS had to do—it’s not something people do just for fun.

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Man all of this mangaka’s works hit me like a semi truck. As I get older so much of what she writes about just becomes painfully more and more relatable

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Yaoi manga where one of them is a pathetic loser or just lame in general

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Retro BL or BL with retro art styles. Thinking along the lines of Go for it Nakamura-kun, that sort of late 80s-90s aesthetic

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  • Author: KUROI Yodaka
  • Genres: Supernatural / Yaoi / Action / Drama
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"You're so cute, it drives me crazy."Watanabe is a Sub, and a high school teacher who...

  • Author: KUROI Yodaka
  • Genres: Yaoi / Romance
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Hi! I’m a PhD student with a focus media and sexuality studies, specifically BL. Long story short yes, I 100% believe it is fine. In fact, these sort of fantasies can even be healthy, when they remain within the realm of fantasy. I’ll be leaving links to academic sources about this below. This goes with other kinds of illegal things—murder, c......
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Alright I’m doing my PhD in media studies with a focus in BL and have gotten like 5 messages telling me to off myself for saying this is expected, so I’m going to explain this trope and what it means to eastern BL readers because yes, this was expected, just not for you, because you are not the target audience.

So. First off. There’s this idea in media studies called an imago, which means that not everything in media directly correlates to its literal counterpart. There’s a dissonance between the fictional representation and IRL understanding. In the context of romance this means that the love interest’s implied facets are what appeals is, not the literal. If there’s a murder mafia guy, chances are IRL we wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who kills people, but in fiction the imago is that he’s a capable protector and responsible. Irl he’d just be an organized criminal, but the implications of the fantasy in fiction mean different things to readers within the context of the fantasy. If he pushes a character up against a wall against their will and says “you’re mine” while the person says “no”, the imago fantasy is that someone will still want you/love you despite your protestations—not that someone harasses you. When working with children’s media it’s important to make the imago have direct correlation, but with adult media we already know right from wrong and can explore these ideas.

Now, about this comic. Raising your top/gong. Incredibly popular trope in China and Japan that involves a mentor figure of some kind, whether it be shizun, teacher, or a situation like this story, mentoring a younger person who eventually becomes obsessed and in love with them. Mentor usually doesn’t reciprocate at first, but after urging from the character starts to see them as an adult and comes to love them later. It is distinctly not grooming, because that mentor character doesn’t have romantic intentions—you can say it’s weird, but what frustrates me when people use that word bc it dilutes the actual meaning of it. This trope is as widely loved and beloved in east Asia as enemies to lovers is in the west. Why?

The subtext here builds off of a few things that are culturally different from western counties—a history of how East Asian queer people socialize and historical media prioritizations. The first one can essentially be boiled down to queer marriage—in countries where it isn’t legal, to get the same rights one person in the relationship will legally adopt the other so they can share the name. In the eyes of the law, and the public, they will be seen as father and son or mother and daughter. But to each other, they know the truth. There’s an inherent implied queer romance to the opacity of legal or societally perceived bonds. The other facet is cultural lodestones—in the west we have Shakespeare so a lot of our media reflects Romeo and Juliet dynamics. Chinese media has had the shizun/disciple relationship for a long time, and so there’s historically been another layer of romance to the sort of mentor-mentee relationship. It also follows the same pattern—reluctant shizun and eager disciple, as a way to invert power dynamics and add interest.

Combined into one is how you get the papa wolf dynamic; it’s one that’s been replicated in Chinese BL for as long as there has been Chinese BL. People in the west tend to not perceive it that same because our cultural foundations are different.

In China, some media groups view enemies to lovers as extremely toxic and unhealthy, and if you’re looking everything without the facet of imago, who’s to say they’re wrong? But the west has foundations that emphasize that trope, so we think it’s weird that they might think that. But because we all have media literacy, we can look at this and understand not everything means something else directly. Shed your Eurocentric and americentric mindset and try to consider this from that perspective. You don’t have to love it, you can be personally squicked by it, but you do have to understand that if you’re bitching about it happening it’s like watching a rom com and complaining that the people with rival cupcake stores ended up falling for each other.

End rant. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.

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And alpha x alpha or alpha x beta recs?

Or even omega x omega or beta x omega, just omegaverse that isn’t alpha x omega

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Y’all are fr shocked? The creator has had explicit smut and ship art between the main characters on their weibo and lofter since 2020. This (raising the gong) is an incredibly popular ship trope in China/danmei in general, and is why the Chinese readerbase is reading in the first place. This kind of promotion isn’t out of left field lmao

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(Edit: Sorry about the salty comment I left an actual explanation below) Because it’s fictional and fantasy doesn’t mean you condone it irl. Hope this helps Ok I left a really salty comment and I wanted to apologize lol, it’s been a long day. I’m doing a PhD in media studies with a focus in sexuality and here’s an actual explanation fo......
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High school student Hoshino Terumichi always sees the same dream. A dream of a boy from the Taisho E...

  • Author: syundei
  • Genres: Historical / Horror / Supernatural / Yaoi
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Eeee this is sis so so cute! I love age gaps so much, especially when the older one feels that life has passed him but and the younger one works to make him feel like that’s not the case…this is just so sugary sweet and adorable

I love the main pair together their dynamic is so interesting unique and twisted. I’ve only ever seen this sort of dynamic approached by Harada or Asada Nemui, it’s nice to see that sort of deranged seinen vibe brought to another mangaka’s works hehehe

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This is the story of Udou’s brother, Takayuki from “Gosan no Heart”.One day, at th...

  • Author: ogawa chise
  • Genres: Drama / Romance / Yaoi / School life
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Ah this makes me so nostalgic, this was the first ever yaoi I read back when it was first released in 2013. In retrospect it’s kind of a hot mess but it’s an indulgent, interesting hot mess that really is like a time capsule into what BL circa 2013 was like, and really marks an interesting transformation point for the genre. Around that time mangaka started to incorporate more popular tropes into BL where previously they’d just kind of been strictly individualist and very id-serving bc BL started having commercial success. This was definitely riding the Future Diary/Battle Royale wave and ended up being one of the more unique and fucked stories at the time. Though it’s by no means my favorite, or even my favorite of Ogawa Chise works, it holds a special place in my heart and it was nice to finally read the end

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Stories with intersex MCs like Requiem of the Rose King? I loved how that manga had the MC explore his identity while also being a problematic little bitch in medieval England, it was super fun and I wanted to know if there were more manga with protags like that

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I actually really liked the main couple and their dynamic! It was pretty realistic for the situation they were in and the lifestyle they led—practical, subdued, utilitarian. In a world like theirs I kind of appreciated that the love reflected the setting and its values rather than the sort of overwhelming passion seen in a lot of BL. It isn’t a dynamic or style I think I’d seek out, but it really fit the story and the 2 MCs in my opinion, and made it a refreshing and interesting read.

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BL Regression manhua/manga/manhwa recs? I’ve read Turning, 2ha, Palace if Bardo, and Kill the Lights