I love this couple. Their communication is top notch and I really love that he didn’t quit his job as a porn star and they talked about it. The whole part with the “am I a pillow princess” really solidified it as one of my favorites. Ibuki is so self assured and confident in their romance LOL
This is just so depressing…I read a lot of manga with yakuza or dubcon etc. and this is just the saddest one I’ve read…I literally just want this poor guy to live a peaceful life with his daughter…bro deserved someone nice and kind…
Look this isn’t the most insane thing I’ve read by a long shot, I’ve read some wild stuff. But it IS the one that makes me wonder about the fucking smut worldbuilding? What caused the rib thing!! Why him!! Why are more growing?? So many questions that are left unanswered that are lowkey way more compelling than the whacky ass porn…idc that his ribussy is getting screwed, tell me the lore!!!
The Speaker has the best written poly relationship I’ve read, honestly. Sometimes when reading stories with poly characters they stilted/underdeveloped on all sides and I just end up feeling like I wish 2 of them were together, or just feel like the third has no role. This is not that. This is a set of characters who are literally not complete without each other and fit together so well. It’s so clear how incomplete they are when it’s just 2 of them on their own, I’m so happy the triad have each other…
I love how the artist draws the little mushroom baby as a chibi, especially when he’s walking. Too cute!!!!
This is one that I continue to dwell on even after finishing it. They really are very well suited to each other, even though at first it just kind of seems like their relationship would be exhausting. And, like, yeah. It would be exhausting. But that’s exactly what eachother needs. Seonwoo needed someone that incessantly cares for him despite his protestations and insistence that he’s fine/doesn’t need anything. Yuri needs someone who needs him and gives him the kind of endeared-but-exasperated love he was constantly searching for as a child. The result is very volatile and codependent, and I have this feeling they would absolutely implode if they were in relationships with literally anyone else, but it just works for them.
well said. I just finished reading this and you pretty much summed it up. i’m not very pleased with their dynamic at times but that chapter in the cafe with yohan and mukyung really epitomised it well. the author took lengths to make sure the reader knew that yuri does show very toxic traits but seonwoo’s love allows him to work with it and he sees their relationship as a work in progress.
I kept trying to make sense of what the fuck I just finished reading by going through the comments and this seems to make the most sense. It's still unsettling as fuck but I guess we're supposed to be like yohan and moogyung and just say good for them and let it be.
Moralizing about character development and consent on mob gangbang ppatta work is like asking for a laundry machine safety disclaimer on a “got suck in the laundry machine with my ass out” porno…this is the kink, this is the fantasy. It’s not that deep, enjoy the beefcake getting fucked six ways to Sunday—or don’t! The consent is between the author and YOU, not a bunch of illustrated lines, and you can revoke consent to experiencing this at any moment by backing out of the page and reading something else…
Something that makes me lose my mind upon reread is how, like, contextualized Klaus’s behavior is when you’re faced with the way he used to interact with Taki in the past. Like he worked really hard to either see through Taki’s seeming lack of desire but also helped him come into his own as a person who feels and wants things, and so much of that is built on Klaus’s ability to infer and telegraph what Taki wants or needs without him verbalizing it. Like their first kiss/first time they had sex Taki doesn’t talk and Klaus just kind of takes the lead and understands what he wants implicitly. Taki will never say yes or no for himself so he relies on Klaus knowing that for their romantic interactions. Consent isn’t something verbalized in their relationship, because Taki has been both raised to have no concept of his own desires and raised with the inability to voice his dislikes/things he doesn’t want. He’s essentially been groomed since childhood to be a vessel filled with other peoples’ wants and not a person—he will say no or yes so long as it aligns with self sacrifice and greater good.
And the first time we see them have sex is when Taki has just been told that he shouldn’t cry over his soldiers because he’s the maiden rose, and then Klaus tells him to go to his room and they have really violent sex. It’s so fucked because Klaus is like once again accurately reading Taki’s desires—to have intimacy (both sexual and non sexual) with those around him but is lacking important context about what Taki’s role is…especially be cause he (and we know later) that in terms of physical prowess Taki could totally kick his ass if he wanted to…and like the way I interpret it at least is that Klaus’s mindset is like “he’s stressed out and in his own country so he’s being extra resistant to what he wants, so I’ll be a little more forceful because I know him so well” but as the months progress proceeds to get angrier and angrier and loses himself. And it isn’t until Taki says sorry and bleeds/passes out later that he realizes he like severely fucked up and is completely out of his depth…because he’s only been in situations where Taki has wanted something and not permitted it, but now he’s in an environment where he’s not wanted something and permitted it (though that in and of itself is complicated on Taki’s part) and is becoming the thing he hates most…and Taki allows this because he feels guilt for the one selfish thing he did (agreeing to Klaus becoming his knight while also not communicating to him what that means because he wants love) and knows he’s hurt him as a result so just takes what he thinks of as punishment…AUGHHHHHHHHHH *rips out hair*
AUGH MAIDEN ROSE IS SO GOOD THEY JUST DON’T DO IT LIKE THIS ANYMORE. LIKE HOW FASCINATING IS IT THAT KLAUS HAS SWAPPED PERSONHOOD IN HIS HOME COUNTRY TO BE OWNED BODY AND SOUL BY A MAN WHO IS OWNED BODY AND SOUL BY HIS COUNTRY, WHO USED TO LOVE KINDLY BUT SINCE GOING TO WAR CAN ONLY SHOW CARE FOR EACH OTHER VIA VIOLENCE BECAUSE THAT’S ALL EITHER OF THEM ARE NOW?? VESSELS FOR WAR?? NOT PEOPLE??
WHEN DID BL STOP MAKING ME WANT TO WRITE ESSAYS AND ANALYSES ABOUT THE MESSY EPIC INTRICACIES OF THE RELATIONSHIP AND START BEING 2 DIMENSIONAL. RAPE IN BL USED TO HAVE A BIT MORE NUANCE BC IT WAS TREATED AS AN ACTUAL ELEMENT BEYOND A QUICK KICKSTART TO PORN SCENES, BL RELATIONSHIPS USED TO JUST BE MESSIER AND MORE COMPLICATED AND MORE FUCKY WUCKY WITH THE POWER DYNAMICS.
You did not have to go so hard in the comments section but you did!!! And i loved everything you wrote!!!
Maiden Rose is definitely one of a kind imo
IKRRR Everything is so subtle and yes sometimes too many metaphors but people who doesn’t understand this masterpiece just need to reread it all over again!! The story DOES makes sense!!!
Reading the raws, idk but the blond guy is just so suspicious. He’s so overly affectionate, I have a feeling that there’s going to be a reveal or something that he somehow caused the MC’s seizure or something.