Sabby June 12, 2025 7:42 am

The thing about a lot of toxic manhwa's is that there's an expectation that after all the abuse, misunderstandings, (and usually rape), the ML goes through some huge character development and ends up treating the MC like gold. Examples being Painter of the Night, Love History Caused by Willful Ignorance, Paper Flower, Codename Anastasia (from the novel), Jinx (eventually, we all say hopefully), and so on. Like yeah these MLs were horrible abusive ass holes in various ways, but as readers we know that there's going to be character development and a happy ending which is why a lot of people read those stories.

My issue with this manhwa is that there was no real character development, no connection, no eventual understanding or mutual love forming. Ziegril is still a jealous dick, Kay is still an oblivious himbo, neither understands each other (or even attempts to understand the other). So reading about their silly domestic bliss feels flat. I only read to the end because I anticipated them actually being genuine with each other (which hey, it may still happen), but the whole story seemed to have a lot of build up and ended up giving us nothing. Hell we didn't even really get to see Kay's pregnant belly or pregnant sex. Like come on! There may be zero emotional connection but at least show more of the mpreg!

Anyways, story had potential. Execution of the story fell super flat. Could have been amazing, but the plot got fumbled.

Thanks you for coming to my TedTalk. I'm going to go touch grass now and chill. I'm far too worked up over a fictional story, lol.
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    EdwardVamp June 12, 2025 12:05 pm

    I wanted to write that I largely agree, but then I read about that mpreg I absolutely disagree there, it completely fucked up this story. This story was developing and Zigril was starting to be more empathetic, relatively respectful of Kay and just making fun of him. And then suddenly BOOM - Zigril wants to impregnate him with a snap of his finger. Like wtf bro If it continued to develop as a fantasy story full of their joint adventures and gradual rapprochement - that would be a million times better. And not put that disgusting mpreg there (I stopped reading it at that time and now I was bored, so I readed how it ended). Absolutely rushed nonsense and huge wasted potential tbh

    Ilovetoxicyuri June 12, 2025 3:26 pm
    I wanted to write that I largely agree, but then I read about that mpreg I absolutely disagree there, it completely fucked up this story. This story was developing and Zigril was starting to be more empathetic,... EdwardVamp

    You're probably biased cause you dislike mpreg, wouldn't have been better without mpreg at the end of the day it'd still be romanticized rapist x victim

    Ilovetoxicyuri June 12, 2025 3:31 pm
    You're probably biased cause you dislike mpreg, wouldn't have been better without mpreg at the end of the day it'd still be romanticized rapist x victim Ilovetoxicyuri

    Also not saying that the mpreg made it better either way it'd still be below mid ┑( ̄~  ̄)┍

    Sabby June 13, 2025 1:14 am
    I wanted to write that I largely agree, but then I read about that mpreg I absolutely disagree there, it completely fucked up this story. This story was developing and Zigril was starting to be more empathetic,... EdwardVamp

    Just going to put this out there, but literally the entire plot of this story was Zigril looking for a magic pregnancy flower. From the beginning it was obvious Kay was going to get pregnant because otherwise why introduce a magic pregnancy flower in a M/M story? You call it disgusting and that it messed up the story.... when the obvious point of the story was the mpreg. Maybe just in the future avoid stories that are tagged mpreg if you hate it so much. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Still not saying this was a good story, it was actually pretty shit, but the mpreg was not the main issue here friend.

    EdwardVamp June 14, 2025 5:26 am
    Just going to put this out there, but literally the entire plot of this story was Zigril looking for a magic pregnancy flower. From the beginning it was obvious Kay was going to get pregnant because otherwise w... Sabby

    When I started reading it, there was no mpreg tag anywhere, otherwise I wouldn't have read it in my life And I stand by the fact that mpreg is the main problem, because say what you want, but baby trapping someone is the most disgusting thing and it wouldn't be here without mpreg

    Sabby June 15, 2025 2:37 pm
    When I started reading it, there was no mpreg tag anywhere, otherwise I wouldn't have read it in my life And I stand by the fact that mpreg is the main problem, because say what you want, but baby trapping some... EdwardVamp

    There are plenty of non-mpred novels that end up with the main character being coerced, blackmailed, imprisoned, or developing Stockholm syndrome. Even without the baby Zigril would have found a way to ensure Kay couldn't leave him. He's a yandere character, so with or without mpreg Kay would never be able to leave his side.

    EdwardVamp June 16, 2025 2:24 am
    There are plenty of non-mpred novels that end up with the main character being coerced, blackmailed, imprisoned, or developing Stockholm syndrome. Even without the baby Zigril would have found a way to ensure K... Sabby

    Yeah sure, but he wouldn't be forced to carry a parasite inside him for 9 months

Sabby June 9, 2025 4:39 am

Honestly, this is a bit weird, a lot kinky, and also oddly sweet and heartwarming. The story is just about a couple of freaky guys who love each other a whole lot.

And honestly, if someone let me live in a penthouse for free, cooked me incredible meals every day, bought me anything I wanted, and pampered the hell out of me, I'd probably let them piss inside me too. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Neecute June 13, 2025 7:02 am

    (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) ain't that the truth

Sabby June 6, 2025 5:16 pm

Gyeonwoo is really doing 100% of the emotional labor in this relationship isn't he. He always needs to be the one understanding Ido or understanding Jin and trying to make them understand how to be decent humans. I get that the right partner can make you a better person, but my god Gyeonwoo is still just being psychologically abused in this relationship.

This story is lowkey so unsettling and yet I cannot stop reading it. Somehow it's also just so damn compelling.

    neuro June 6, 2025 7:54 pm

    Gyeonwoo isn’t doing all the emotional labor. Jin, Ido, and Gyeonwoo ALL avoid conflict in different ways, Jin runs, Ido deflects, and Gyeonwoo cares deeply and wants to give and receive love, but doesn’t know how to face problems, so he stays in his own comfort zone. He definitely suffers, but avoidance isn’t emotional maturity, all three have flaws and contribute to the issues together

Sabby June 6, 2025 5:03 pm

Am I the only one who gets why Sol doesn't act as unhinged as a human as he did as a bird? I keep seeing complaining comments but like, he's still super silly and cute even as a human, but obviously as an animal he had a lot more freedom to be wild because he was an animal... As a human I assume he is intentionally moderating himself because humans have different standards for behavior than animals do. I love both the human and bird version of the MC.

    Big tiddy goth gf June 7, 2025 7:37 am

    i mean canonically sol has too small of a brain as a bird to really think, which is why hes mega dumb in bird form but a bit more normal in humsn form

Sabby April 13, 2025 4:09 am

Man Cheongrim I don't think installing more cameras is going to stop our little mini mart from having a full psychological break. He was already right there on the edge... and now with what just happened...

I can't remember the last time a manhwa had me this stressed!

Sabby March 1, 2025 3:59 am

The communication between these two is already peak. I know they both probably have loads of secrets but at least right now they are communicating! Seeing actual communication in a BL manhwa, especially at the beginning, feels so rare.

    sunrisedarlings March 1, 2025 4:07 am

    I appreciate that so much because Ive seen a lot of Mcs who rambles in their mind instead of speaking it out loud like the whole chapter could be the mc saying things on his mind only and misunderstandings keep building up

Sabby February 22, 2025 3:24 am

This is both cute and vaguely unsettling at the same time. I love our MC and Guwon, but the author is doing really well at creating an underlying tension. There are little hints here and there that things in the town are odd, and hints that something is going on with our MC (I don't feel like it's just PTSD). I'm really curious how this will develop, I just hope Guwon and Jinwoo end up as a fluffy couple.

Sabby February 10, 2025 11:22 pm

Seeing Ray's body grow up just continues to highlight how creepy Jiskar is. He was sexually assaulting a child and everyone around him was just like, 'yeah whatever the child is actually the problem here.'

Sabby February 8, 2025 6:32 pm

Taesung has no right to be surprised by Sooyoung's behavior. He regularly used sex and violence to punish Sooyoung. Sooyoung is legit like a battered spouse who thinks he deserves to be hurt any time he perceives he made a mistake. Taesung did this to him so now he has to live with the consequences.

    Ichigo February 9, 2025 6:03 pm

    all of this!!!!

    hope world ^ ♡ ^ February 14, 2025 12:06 am

    Yet sooyoung has to suffer still while taesung asks for a break up. Ugh cant taesung suffer alone and not break my sooyoung's heart??

Sabby January 31, 2025 5:44 am

Seeing Yeomin so happy just being able to afford public transit was both cute and heart wrenching. He has been through so much.

Also, as much as Yeomin's dad is awful, seems like that company pulling funding literally in the middle of a job is shady as heck. Most companies wouldn't be able to recover from that. I wonder if we'll learn the reason the funding was pulled. But regardless, that loss of funding directly contributed to Yeomin living a life of extreme poverty and abuse. We'd better see the ML grovel at some point. Baby Yeomin deserves nothing but happiness.

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