So I got more info from the great spoilers person. I appreciate the good info. I can freely and safely hate on this piece of rat shit. Free Yiyoung and Kang, the top priority problem is Doyeon besides Yiyoung being careless and Kang’s insecurities:
“This dude called Yi internationally. Not Kang, his damn friend of more than 10 years. Doyeon is in a gay club and is pretending to be drugged. He called Yi and when Yi told him "I'll tell Kang to pick you up"
Doyeon said "NO!! Kang doesn't know I am gay" BUT HE FUCKING DOES KNOW AND THIS POS IS LYING!! So Yi called Kang and told him he is going to pick up D who is drunk, and when Kang said he'll go, Yi gave an excuse that he will be there faster (to protect D's sexuality), bcs Kang is currently stuck in traffic.
So not only is he lying about Kang not knowing about his sexuality, and by that making Yi feel like he has to keep the secret and protect fellow gay person, he is also lying about being drugged. He is a piece of shit.”
Kang is spot on, why is Yiyoung apologizing unless he has something else to feel sorry about? I hope they talk more than this though. Kang pissed me off earlier but right now, he’s not doing anything wrong. I just hope he doesn’t get too upset, I mean his reaction is valid though. A lying partner is icky.
I’m honestly glad that Yiyoung told him it was Ha Dohyeon, but the whole lying threw me off and I’m still stuck on it. Why would you lie, then say it? I guess it was a moment thing, but it feels really icky.
It felt like borderline cheating if I had to describe that moment of lying, especially after Yiyoung knows Doyeon is into him. He should’ve told Kang at first.
But this isn’t what pissed me off, just annoyed:
Saw recent spoilers from someone in comment section, and I’m right that Yiyoung needs development.
And all I got from this spoiler is that Doyeon is a red flag. The gaslighting and forcing to drink, icky. Anyone who forgives this because he looks handsome, go take a chill pill with extreme low libido side effects.
“YiYoung is a sweetheart and went to save this drunk ass from some damn club. Brought him home to and was about to leave when the dude poured him a glass and told him to drink it ... I don't blame Yi here for drinking it. Doyeon is older and he is fully using it. Also, Yi has been trying to put a physical distance btw them, which is huge for Yi who is totally oblivious to his surroundings sometimes... anyway ... after the galss Doyeon said they should order food and Yi declined that he has to go, so Doyeon proceeds to try and guilt trip him for leaving him to eat alone last time. Yi still says he is going to leave so Doyeon says "I'll let you go if you call me Hyung.”
YIYOUNG: I won’t hear anything else. He’s bothering me with the way he’s so…careless, it worries me. Is nobody concerned with how careless he is? Alright, just me I guess. And how does a partner not realize another partner is insecure about their age? There were big hints of it in main story and now here.
Before anyone says anything, Yiyoung is not a bad person at all and he is a good partner, maybe too much at times, but he should be a more of good partner by setting boundaries with someone who clearly likes him, and not, you know, go over to them when invited, despite your partner’s disapproval. Not just for his partner, but for his own sake. Or go together with your partner.
Him having lack of dating experience doesn’t mean he’s not capable of thinking. Clearly he knew it was wrong to be hanging out with someone who likes him.
KANG: he shouldn’t have said some stuff he said, but he was being logical and honest. It is hurtful to hear that, but resolving it via verbal communication is way better than miscommunication and angry sex (Kang this is to you). I’d rather have a honest partner over lying and manipulative douchebag. Of course I do hope he apologizes and they discuss it more thoroughly. Nor do I justify what Kang said. Both of them having different life experience adds to this conflict, and on top of it— Kang has insecurities!
He does not need to be any more jealous than he already is. Is it not more childish to make your partner jealous by going on date with someone who’s trying to get in your pants? Not towards Yiyoung, but those in comments who support it. I hope people aren’t seriously supporting borderline cheating.
DOYEON: I need that Doyeon dude to F off. He’s not respecting what Yiyoung said about being with someone else. I dislike him the most. Honestly, Yiyoung should’ve told him it was Kang and be more strict about the boundaries.
Like dude couldn’t have called anyone else? He had to call someone he hit on and knew not even for a week? Yiyoung shouldn’t have given him his #. He’s pissing me off (not Yiyoung, but Doyeon).
Lmao thanks! I get a heart attack every time I see notification, thinking someone hating my essay. Haha.
It’s honestly not dramatic, it’s just how people feel and that’s totally fine. I really dislike people who say it’s just fiction, not that deep, and more, they’re invalidating how we feel as readers.
We resonate with stories and thus our feelings come out. This is a pretty realistic story. It makes us happy, then pisses us off, repeat.
You’re right, the whole jealousy only led to angry sex, which was not needed. This fueled jealousy in Kang, and his won partner doesn’t assure him (or he did but I forgot.) and doesn’t realize Kang has insecurities?
Their relationship would be nearly perfect if Kang’s insecurities were discussed. It’s so uncomfortable seeing a partner not feeling comfortable. I’m sure Yiyoung means no harm, not directly.
A comment like this with logic and maturity - I don’t mind the essay read personally lol. Kang being insecure is also a point I previously commented on as well. Everybody keeps not wanting to acknowledge that - probably because he is an older seme (emphasis on “seme”) and the common bias’s on this site seem to only allow empathy for insecurity when it comes from the uke’s in these stories. Yiyoung needs to show some maturity, as likable as he is, he needs to step up and set boundaries. Kang never said anything that was horrible!
in fact is was so real it caught Yiyoung off guard and hurt his feelings and Kang hasn't had the chance to explain to the inexperienced much younger tunnel visioned Yiyoung how he doesn't expect him to want be with a man so much older than him forever. Even hetero age gap relationships will sometimes have this insecurity hang over them. Its common. I wasn't surprised when yiyoung lied just disappointed, korean shows and comics always portray the characters casually lying and not being transparent in both their romantic and familial relationships even when its something very serious to something not that big of deal which is a common cliche for them. Fingers crossed this doesn't get dragged out too much longer (this particular lie scenario) or have Kang act in a forceful aggressive manner(another over used cliche) so they can finally talk this over so we move on.
Love your response. lol the shade towards bottom/top positions, it’s very much double standards that is happening. If it was Kang making Yiyoung jealous while ignoring Yiyoung’s disapproval of him going over to another cute guy’s home who is trying to get Kang’s D, the comment section would be less lenient.
Yiyoung being less experienced in dating does not justify the lying and hanging with someone he knows is crossing the lines. People may call me dramatic or thinking too deeply, but this is a story I resonate with.
I have dealt with partners that have little to no boundaries, and careless as well. I’ve tried to communicate but to no avail. I hope they talk things out and it won’t be dragged on like you said.
Lying while being with someone is really icky. Yiyoung won’t get a pass regardless of the sex roles. I love him, but I want him to discuss Kang’s insecurities, that is all.
Just saw recent spoiler in comment section. Boy am I more annoyed to know the full context of raws, sigh:
Again, Yiyoung is really careless. And all I got from this is that I hate Doyeon.
Don’t scroll down if you don’t want spoilers. It’s similar to the spoilers I said in my post:
“YiYoung is a sweetheart and went to save this drunk ass from some damn club. Brought him home to and was about to leave when the dude poured him a glass and told him to drink it ... I don't blame Yi here for drinking it. Doyeon is older and he is fully using it. Also, Yi has been trying to put a physical distance btw them, which is huge for Yi who is totally oblivious to his surroundings sometimes... anyway ... after the galss Doyeon said they should order food and Yi declined that he has to go, so D proceeds to try and guilt trip him for leaving him to eat alone last time. Yi still says he is going to leave so D says "I'll let you go if you call me Hyung".”
I dont mind spoilers. But this sounds like again Yi is not using good judgement or even common sense. Like he isn't friends with this guy, he just met him and see’s he’s pushy. Why would you keep putting yourself in positions to be alone with him.
If anything Kang should be the one to get him from a club while he’s drunk and
take him home smh ( ̄へ ̄)Im not blaming Yi if anything happens but pointing out he’s making stupid decisions (like the lying) that can result in an uncomfortable or dangerous situation, Plus cause more misunderstandings in his relationship that is already having that issue.
Okay so I found out why Yiyoung didn’t let Kang come. This makes sense. So basically Doyeon lied to Yiyoung about Kang not knowing that he’s gay, and Doyeon is at the gay bar, so if Kang picked him up, he’d know.
In reality, Kang knows. Yiyoung just doesn’t know he knows.
So the real problem is Doyeon, he’s pissing me off. Yiyoung is careless of course still and Kang’s insecurities are at peak .
I made a post earlier about the updated spoilers, it’s not the most accurate translation though but also based off raw observations. If you want to check all future chapters raw spoiler:
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/16771058/
I feel you on dealing with partners like that in my case just 1 who was careless and didn't establish boundaries. Once was enough for me and never again. It’s such a unnecessary thing to become an issue in a relationship and easily solvable but not for the silly, selfish, or weak/passive minded people. Its gets turned into a mountain issue when its shouldn't get bigger than a mole hill And in this case looks like its going to get dragged out longer in the story. What I really wish we get to see is these getting COMFORTABLE with each other so that they feel more organic as a couple and not some random troublemaking
third wheel causing unnecessary problems.
Right now some are really trying to turn what Kang asked in the recent chapter against him. All he did was ask a question, god forbid he asks! But Yiyoung gets a quick pass, meanwhile I’ve seen MLs do something similar and get beaten.
Honestly I’m not even too mad Yi lied but the double standards gets me heated.
Exactly! We don’t need some third party dude to interfere and be the catalyst. I really really really hope it won’t be dragged out. I hope the sequel isn’t that long, just one forking season should suffice!
Thanks for the link. I read it. Im disappointed. Kang and Yi started on a horrible note in the BEGINNING. Kang was a jerk at first (Typical) but we moved SOOOOOOO far from that. Forcing sex out of jealousy and your partner uncomfortably, reluctantly going along with it while internally saying how they dont want it, is sad. Making characters likable and then turning them into rapists after you’ve grown to like them is weird move on these writers. Its twisted - even if it’s prevalent in manga, again an unnecessary and cliche move smh. Another manga im reading “mad dog”? I think its called - did the same thing in the extra’s smh which leaves a sour taste for me but anyways Kang’s insecurities in this relationship is the most interesting part, Doyeon being thrown in wasnt needed to dive into that issue. It just makes it messy early in their new relationship. And why is he so damn persistent with Yi! Like he’s not reciprocating your advances have some pride and move on predator damn!
Holy fuck after I saw Professor Cha’s partner, he’s #1 good looking than Wooju in my opinion. Something about that slutty face is something lighting me up.
Not sure where the website is but it’s in another language non translated, he looks so good. I hope he takes Cha away so I don’t get annoyed with Cha trying to break things up.
Plus I rarely get 2nd ML syndrome.
I really hope the author does not make Je Oh have sex with the blueberry dude just to run away. Hell no! I know ML and MC aren’t dating, but it feels like they’re already together with how much they’re calling each other their savior.
And Je Oh (MC) saying: Well I guess you’re an accident to me.
I’m sobbing. Y’all can’t do this to me. And I guess this is deserved with what Seongrok did, but I really hope Je Oh doesn’t go back to the prostitution life or sex with blueberry dude. I dislike that dude even though he may be good help for both MC and ML.
And what does blueberry mean in end of ch 75: Whip him into shape?
Bitch don’t fucking touch Je Oh.
Many acting like Sky is the only victim, and as if everyone blames him. Nobody blamed him without reason, some blamed him because he beat until the other bled. But I promise they don’t hold a grudge about what Skylar did, nor do I.
Skylar had a reaction, his trauma was also triggered in a way without Cirrus realizing because they have yet to discuss. Cirrus was in the wrong, I don’t wanna see nobody babying him except for the jokes (I know we like to have fun sometimes), and same for Sky. Their relationship IS progressing, slow progress does not equate to no progress!
To that who commented on Cirrus’s mental health: Calling someone’s trauma a tantrum and insecurities is really…icky. And no a rational choice isn’t beating your partner up when you know they have trauma relating to physical abuse. That’s fucked up.
I promise you not everyone blames Skylar. If anything, I’ve seen a lot blame them equally. Nobody is hailing Cirrus like a saint, we know he has problems. All I care is that he apologized and Skylar accepted that (for his past faults), but I also accept that Skylar will doubt him at times (even though he did believe in him instead of fatty in raws).
So what is up with some weird Sky fans gaslighting by bringing up the past? Y’all are worse than Cirrus in the gaslighting (insert laugh emoji since Mangago won’t let me).
By the way, I said: WEIRD Sky fans.
There’s a difference between normal Sky fans and normal Cirrus fans, versus seriously deranged fans who disregard the other and favor their own, not even comprehending the story nor trying to.
The comments I see:
“Let’s not forget what Cirrus did in the past.”
What are you gonna do then? Hold a grudge when Skylar himself accepted the apology and asked him out first? Nobody forced Sky to be in the relationship, and he can leave anytime. As for Cirrus, he definitely needs intense therapy because I doubt Sky can help him.
I’ve not once invalidated Skylar’s mental health, so I don’t get why so many invalidate Cirrus’s mental health. I think this is the difference between biased people vs people who actually care for both of them.
2) this shit is coming from someone who claims to be Cirrus fan. At least don’t lie and be truthful:
It's good that the genre isn't 18+ so readers can relax he wouldn't do unhinged shit sexually.
I don’t know why ANYONE would come to this conclusion., that if this was 18+, Cirrus would do something rapey when we know he has trauma from being nearly raped and SA’ed by a teacher he trusted before. That’s so insensitive and clearly they did not read.
I’m ashamed that @Cher loves cats loves cats, my favorite pets.
Also it’s weird when some people basically count who did more wrongs between the two of them to justify/minimize Skylar’s wrongdoing when it’s more about what they are capable of doing. Chapter 101 showed us that Skylar is someone who’s capable of beating the shit out of his partner if they trigger his anger issues enough and Cirrus just let him get away with it. It doesn’t mean that he’s irredeemable or deserves hate (obviously Cirrus was at fault too). It just means that he’s also morally grey character not just a complete victim and their dynamic is much more complex than a plain victim&abuser portrayed in many popular BLs.
Is it cheating if they aren’t together? Or is it confirmed that they are together? I can’t understand Japanese, so yeah I wouldn’t know if they agreed to date.
It seemed like the UKE was only helping SEME get over his repulsion of kissing and they had sex, but nothing more. Then the SEME saw the UKE and his boss together in another room, the UKE was sucking his boss’s pp.
The UKE’s face was blushing, but I’ll give the benefit of doubt and assume he was coerced to do it. Redness on face does not alway mean he’s happy, it could be embarrassment.
CH 28– I used poor translation so don’t get too excited. In Ch 28, Yiyoung was trying to find ways to explain. In monologue, Yiyoung said: “To me I liked that I was with someone who was interested.”
If anyone knows Korean and can explain that, thank you. Yiyoung also said that he’s not interested in Doyeon, so I doubt it’s that.
Yiyoung believes that Doyeon isn’t out of the closet, so he’s not sure if Kang knows and decides to not tell that Doyeon hit on him. It’s not because he wants to keep it a secret, it’s because he’s keeping it a secret for Doyeon, so he won’t out him.
Then next panels, Yiyoung asks Kang: Is there any reason why I shouldn’t meet him? And Yiyoung continues to ask why they shouldn’t meet, but this time with a smug expression.
Kang gets upset. He asks Yiyoung if he’s doing all of this because he said something about how he would let Yi go if their relationship won’t last long in future.
And then Yiyoung is like: Wait! Do you think I’m interested in Doyeon? No I’m not!
Kang: You are, are you not?!
Then Yiyoung gets a call from Doyeon. And he hangs up on him after a few seconds, saying that he will contact Doyeon later. And Kang is more upset, and this is when the angry sex begins.
CH 29– Kang pushes him on the couch and strips his top off, groped Yiyoung’s nipple and Yiyoung thinks: “I don’t like this.”
“I feel it right away. I don’t like this.”
“Don’t do it.”
Yiyoung thinks something about running off. But then Kang pushes him against the door (not rough), and sticks his pp inside Yiyoung. And Yiyoung went along with it, but he still doesn’t like it although his body enjoyed it. I think he won’t mind having sex with his own partner, but being raped by his partner isn’t comfortable to say the least. Yiyoung asks if he’s gonna stop now, and Kang says No.
Then they continue onto the next chapter.
CH 30– Kang and Yiyoung continue the sex. Well mostly on Kang’s side. I’m disappointed in this rape, but they’re gonna be together anyways and rape is prevalent in the BL community. I just hope nobody justifies it, is all. Anyways, Kang continue to thrust, and I think he says something to Yiyoung: Why is your hips bouncing back/rolling back?
He sees Yiyoung’s erotic expression and gets turned on even more. Honestly despite the rape scene, the sex position were hot as hell and the expressions. Whew! Then Kang finishes and so does Yiyoung, and has Yiyoung suck him off and he cums. DONE
CH 31– Kang reflects on his actions and says something like: “How could I do this even if I’m angry? Was I such a petty and impulsive person?”
Then next panels show Yiyoung waking up pretty energetic, and he remembers what happened last night, he smiled big and all giddy about how hot Kang was during the sex. Dear Yiyoung! Please! Have some self respect, your partner did something bad and he better kneel.
The panels also show Kang going to Yiyoung and apologizing to him early morning. Yiyoung remembers that and is even more happy.
Yiyoung is lying on his bed and with sparkles around him, he says to himself (comedic): “Why go on a business trip? Is work better than me?”
Then he gets up and heads to his own work with an energetic self. I’m here reading with a “brother what” mind, cause Yiyoung is weird lmaoo. He gets a call from Kang and cheerfully answers.
At the end of that chapter, Yiyoung gets a call from drunk Doyeon. Yiyoung gets concerned and asks if he’s alright. Doyeon says he drank alcohol, and Yiyoung gets ready to hang up until Doyeon lies about being drugged and needs to be picked up.
Yiyoung makes up a whole scenario where a chaebol guy (doyeon) is being drugged and kidnapped for ransom. And I think Yiyoung was going to bring Kang with him since Kang knows Doyeon more, or he said that he would send Kang to pick him up.
Doyeon lies about him being gay is not know to Kang, and that he’s in a gay bar, so Yiyoung should be the one to pick him up since Yiyoung knows he’s gay. But it’s revealed in next panels that Kang knows Doyeon is gay. He remembers the time when Doyeon basically slept with many guys, fucked around, etc.
Kang disapproves of him going to Doyeon and that he will pick up Doyeon, but Yiyoung declines and suggests that he go himself because he’s closer to Doyeon’s location than Kang. He hangs up before Kang could say something. Then Yiyoung rushes and drops his phone, not realizing. Kang tries to call again, but no answer cause Yiyoung dropped the phone.
I think he was going to tell Yiyoung that he knows Doyeon is gay and a lying piece of shit.
In the next panel, Kang looks horrified because he doesn’t like Doyeon getting near Yiyoung. He tries to go as well but there’s car traffic, “FUCK!”
Kang imagines and thinks that Doyeon will potentially force onto Yiyoung. And then he tries to calm down and with a horrified expression 0_0, his monologue says: “No he isn’t that shitty.” (Referring to Doyeon.)
Next panels, Kang imagines a scenario where Doyeon becomes more successful and still younger than Kang, and he thinks about how Yiyoung might be into him.
Kang remembers what he said to Yi:
“If you were my age, you would have plenty of relationships by then.”
“I’m not confident that I’m a worthy person.”
“If the day comes when you leave me because I’m not good enough, or want to experience another date, I’ll just accept it.”
He said something else too but not sure. Kang finishes remembering those and is mad, he probably wondered why he said that while drunk. He’s really mad at the end of chapter and said something like: “What bullshit am I saying?!” Or “What bullshit was I saying?!”
Anyways Kang’s insecurities make me bawl, it’s so sad. He’s not that old to be thinking this way, yes Yiyoung is younger but he’s so into Kang and Kang’s insecurities blind him. I don’t justify what he did to Yiyoung, but this is all so sad.
PT 2) Yiyoung is at the gay bar and sees Doyeon with two guys hugging his chest and touching him. Doyeon looks relaxed and just sitting there. Yiyoung goes over and pushes the other guys off, fearing for Doyeon. This pisses me off cause Doyeon is taking advantage of Yiyoung’s kindness. This also causes the other guys he pushed off to grab Yiyoung and pull on his hair.
Doyeon doesn’t even seem to care and is like: “Pick me up, I’m right here!” And Yiyoung grabs him and leads him out of the gay bar. Then he puts him on the sofa once they reach the apartment building. Yiyoung is about to leave right away, but then Doyeon stops him.
Doyeon asks if Yiyoung wants to drink some too. And Yiyoung takes the offer and drinks a bit. Yiyoung is offered wine by Doyeon, but Yiyoung turns it down, but Doyeon kinda is pushy. So Yiyoung drinks it and says, “Wow this wine tastes really good!”
Yiyoung realizes he almost got caught up and says to Doyeon that he has to go. Doyeon is gaslighting and is like: “Do you want me to eat all by myself?”
And he acts like Yiyoung leaving isn’t right, making Yiyoung feel guilty. Then Doyeon says: “Call me hyung and I will let you leave.”
And Yiyoung says just that, Doyeon laughs and calls him cute, inching a bit closer.
Ugh, I hate Doyeon!
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