Eilselie's Topics (101)

Right! Like the redemption arc in Bj Alex didn’t even take this long.

BJ Alex felt like a weekend romance compared to this insanity.

That’s true but the episodes felt quick because I read it after all the chapters were released.

Dude you are reading a novel about a brother and sister hooking up. Also she apparently made the brother not gay anymore? And that's your issue with this? Dude, I and throwing a Redemption get out of jail free card to the only couple that isn't incestuous.

being an open pedophile like this isn't something u should be proud about you fucked up piece of shit

Being a dumb bitch sure is a choice for you

sorry can't take words from a halfwit

Oh no they WALKED INTO A “SHOTA FACTORY”!!!1!1!1!1 I PROVED MY POINT YIPPEE IM SO SMAAAARTT

girl the fact that you called this a fucking shota factory says enough
Grow the fuck up and realise what’s wrong w this
Show your mama the damn phone

I think the only point I proved is that y'all can't read to save your lives

or you should not have been given the ability to read, better.

right??? if they hated this, then why are they here on every update? smh there's a river in egypt...

Dang is it the point that YOU proved or us? Y’all are so delusional that it’s sad actually is that how you cope?

Oh thanks I know the only thing you guys can say against us which is also an ASSUMPTION is this because clearly you guys have NOTHING but still won’t accept you’re in the wrong

I could not care less if you assume we read this tho I’m pretty sure we don’t
We’re still better than y’all because at least we admit this shit is ass

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1DOhIOb-tI5NTJCtoUnpsQ8ntZvgqR5FW/htmlview# (press the censorship, fiction section, it's at the top)

https://www.yourtango.com/2016290629/3-myths-about-women-rape-fantasies

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/standard-deviations/201805/growing-up-kinky-research-shows-how-kink-identity-is-formed

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/intuition/vol14/iss1/7/

https://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1999-effects-of-pornography.html

https://www.aclu.org/documents/freedom-expression-arts-and-entertainment

https://www.treatmyocd.com/what-is-ocd/common-fears/if-i-like-lolicon-does-it-mean-im-a-pedophile-a-therapists-view

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1s2PL7TcWJfxDGzKn1M7jnMLViOI6Dvj_

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/therapy-types/prolonged-exposure-therapy  https://medium.com/howl-by-yael-wolfe/is-there-a-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-sexual-fantasies-b4c7798697aa

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-sex/202003/why-are-rape-fantasies-so-common

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/sexual-fantasies#novelty-adventure-and-variety

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/sexual-fantasies#novelty-adventure-and-variety

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/slightly-blighty/201508/womens-sexual-fantasies-the-latest-scientific-research

https://goat.com.au/relationships/what-do-your-taboo-sexual-fantasies-say-about-you/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201010/sick-secret-sexual-fantasies

https://youtu.be/79fvyfrotug?si=LfKUqy3Ah-kbVcmG

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1s2PL7TcWJfxDGzKn1M7jnMLViOI6Dvj_

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

blah blah

LMFAOOO RIGHT IN THE TRAP


the fourth from the top has proven to be a document which is not even a study, although what in that document is, is partially correct, what is does is said to completely redeem and rid of the people who are into pedophilic produces.
Also the rest of them are rape. And all of these articles are not official articles by high end studies. Show me an official article from someone who’s been at least studying this.


So, my point? And yes, this is still about morality and also ANOTHER point is that they are Twitter users writing this and are not even taking morality up as a topic… these cannot even be an actual document of study?? Can it??? Moreover it seems they could be talking about an even more kid friendly lolicon stuff btw. Anyways these articles were of NO HELP. I actually feel sorry for you that you found these for no use

rape fantasies literally tie directly to lolisho as heir both taboo

Pedophilia cannot be diagnosed using lolisho as the only reason. Pedophilia needs a real child involved inappropriately with an adult for it to actually be pedophilia, otherwise it's just a fantasy


Their psychologists. With a degree in psychology. I think they should know about these topics

Only one document was written by a TWT user and they provided names of multiple professionals as to why fiction does not affect reality on a one to one basis


Lolicon is mostly about attraction they're definitely talking about sexual and physical attraction

Many of these links provide info about paraphilias, the reason behind taboo interests, and research conducted to test theories

I really don't understand how you can turn a blind eye to 'minors' (characters) being traumatized, abused, killed but the second sexual topics come up it's wrong


The reason why you see all the mentioned above as okay is because it's a
fictional character.

An object, a doll, a design
They do not have personhood, agency, boundaries or feelings
they're not real and have no capability to feel emotions
They cannot be disrespected

They exist solely to entertain real people in various ways, without harming anyone in the process

They are not people, stop treating them like victims and go help an actual survivor


Engaging in anything with violence does not mean you endorse it IRL. Since I can differentiate fiction and reality, I don't have thoughts about harming/exploiting real people who can experience trauma and go through horrific events


Of course there's going to be pedophile lolicons, but contrary to popular belief, 'proshippers' do not find that acceptable because it goes against the whole idea of fiction stays in fiction

This wasn't much of a problem until around 2020, when we were all isolated. These spaces are not for you, since the fandom culture here is mainly the mindset: 'Don't like, don't read' just like with many other sites and social media platforms

I'm sorry for ranting but I just find it so jarring that me and other CSA victims are being called predators all because of a fantasy (often used to cope) that is usually engaged in a safe, healthy environment


To add on, if you're having thoughts about children in sexual situations all because of a piece of media then I recommend looking into a professional, because sane people do not blur those lines

You’re entire paragraph were filled with links about “taboo interests” and somehow they end up all justifying humiliating things.

Yes people can have a rape kink and yes they can have a choking kink. That they justify. But that is not the same case here. Just because you like rape doesn’t mean you will justify and condone the behaviour of a rapist. Doesn’t mean you will accept and like a rapist character from a book you’re reading and justify him.

This is exactly what these people have been doing. It is WRONG to portray children like this. It’s the same theory as how women are affected due to the porn industry, especially when women dress younger and end up making “step bro step dad” videos.

If they really are great “psychologists” then why am I not getting their names? I’ve received only four names, that also it is a completely different topic, and in the end she asks for you guys to seek help too. (I think it’s a she?)

These are not trusted sites for I’ve already been thru most of these and as much as I want to say they are wrong, only two or more facts are almost correct, that is, it is okay to have a kink but it is to keep it to yourself. Nor should you go ahead and justify if that kink is used wrongly. That’s why “role plays” exist. This outrightly show it.

Instead of asking me to get help because “you can separate fiction from reality” I think you should get your average iq checked. It’s actually very idiotic and selfish to see only about yourself as this is attracting viewers of all kinds. YES, it affects children irl. This is the base, foundation where it starts. And don’t even get me started on “police are tired of finding cartoon cp as there are real kids who need help and are getting distracted from it” when most or maximum have done nothing or rather have been bribed and helped child trafficking cases while very few have actually come and helped kids. So many cases, if you’ve actually gone through any, had started with subtle indications as such and ended in drastic decisions so when police say these they could have stopped a monster by then.

I don’t actually think you understand but these links have NO POINT in this conversation at all because what you are trying to justify are minor “kinks” which is only for the sole of oneself and that also these studies are still very controversial and I do not believe are from trusted sources.

I also cannot understand why you bring up about abuse, that is completely different. That is also my point. It can be shown in abuse because WE WILL GET TO KNOW IT IS WRONG THAT WAY. We are made to know it’s wrong and that the action that is done is a wrong action.

That is my point, the situation is wrong.
If it were abuse and if it were psychological I would be reading this.
Since it is ROMANCE I will be blocking this.

“Don’t like, don’t read” mindset is that of somebody of no open mindedness. I mean, it’s not that I can actually ask for an open mind from people like you, but actually saying this doesn’t it disgust you?

Educated people seek to learn more than be closeted to only their comfort zones.

It’s humiliating how you just go “don’t like don’t read”

Sorry I will insult people who need to be insulted.

This frankly makes no sense bc by ur logic ur endorsing abuse simply under the guise of the psychological genre

Are we not talking about lolisho? In real life that would most definitely be considered abuse

Its the opposite, really

You criticize something that makes you uncomfortable. 'Dont like, dont read" means dont force urself into reading something ur not comfortable with, not bc of a lack of open mindedness

educated people of course can indulge in something out of their comfort zone but that doesnt mean its right to harass or shame people, try to falsely accuse people of being predators, etc

"They all end up justifying humiliating things"

Now I KNOW ur running out of arguments cuz theres literally nothing to 'justify', who is being harmed here

"Minor kinks" is just pedophilia

And the said minor is an object

Abuse? Isn’t that the next paragraph, where is ABUSE coming from?? Have you actually lost your mind because abuse clearly has nothing to do with this story

Oh, consider what abuse?

Do you actually get what I’m saying? Lack of open mindedness because you don’t seem to understand the harm.
I criticise this NOT JUST because it feels uncomfortable. And in this case, you’re uncomfortable because we told you the truth.
I’m uncomfortable clearly with you people more than the story but I’m still indulging

Predators are more prone to disliking lolisho, rape

I've been reading about dark fiction since I was eight. Not once have I ever thought about harming a child. Fiction does not affect reality on a one to one basis as I've already said, if it did there would be tens times more of crimes


U said it urself; the system doesn't care about the safety of children. If many dont care, why would you want to redirect people who actually take it seriously attention from the direct problem?

The reason for that wasnt because of media. It was because they were clearly mentally ill, blaming creators of dark media does literally nothing but cause harm

Putting real, living people with dreams, hopes, and an ability to think on the same level as fictional characters drawn on files and papers is insanely dehumanizing but I don't think you're ready to hear that

U clearly misunderstood what they were talking about when it came to help

Theres a healthy and unhealthy way of consuming fiction. If ur actively looking at something morally wrong and its starting to affect ur life and how u treat others then yes that is definitely a problem

Most people in Japan are indifferent to lolisho. Same goes for many other countries because it should be common sense that an object should not be placed on a pedestal with real people. Thats the literal definition of objectification

The reason why porn is bad is because of the lack of education around sex and the struggles of knowing if a porn video is infact not porn but exploitation

There is no article or proof or study that shows predators do not like rape and lolisho. I already know it is false.
It’s not “first degree murder cases” that are the only crimes, but sa victims too. Most, I say loudly, MOST start from this. There have been several videos of them being caught too these days and no, more than half have been proved to not be staged. You can check it out.
I do not care about when you’ve been reading dark fiction and how you think that it doesn’t affect reality and then crimes would have doubled, many cases are not reported and are never found out.

What is more dehumanising is not admitting, when there are 20 comments at least which are horrible and inhumane and I don’t think they were trolling when they said those, and actually trying to justify reading LOLICON.

Just like how “porn doesn’t affect women!!”

They're controversial because of ignorance, my own pyschiatrist does not care about lolisho unless its straying from the fiction stays in fiction path

Then again, child, you keep talking about “Lolicon” and not this story in general.

Will I say it again?
If it was “cute kids” it would have been still better and I would not have been bothering you people, but this is ROMANCE. AND PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH IT.

Yes ignorant people like you. Of course you have a psychiatrist. Please show her this work.

Coming back to this, does that not apply to SA as well?

Fiction acknowledges its wrong to act on in real life. The only reason I learned of the fact I was SAed is because of media

Yes it was SA. That means you learnt you were SAed because in that work it PORTRAYED THAT SA WAS BAD.

Being in a romantic or sexual relationship w a real life child is most definitely a form of abuse

Yes if it was sa, that means

Sorry I was typing too fast

If i did, she would frankly not care, for literally every reason I've mentioned so far

Oh so you’re admitting it is abuse?

Looks like you need a new one

Yes, because this is in theory!!!! Because its imagination!!!! No one is gonna go and groom a child bc of this story

Ive seen so many ppl openly agree with a predator bc they said 'lolicon is bad'

Yes theres cases unreported but itd still be doubled either way, known or unknown

There's also many people who wish rape upon dark fiction enjoyers. 'I hope ur dad rapes u since u like Incest so much', 'I hope chemo doesn't work <3', and I've personally been told that i deserved my SA, or that it should happen again

There's going to be bad people on eiyher side, dont go cherry picking

GIRLLLL IM SO TIRED THAT IS NOT THE POINT ENTIRELY YES THEY MIGHT YES YES IT AFFECTS AND MOSTLY BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE FIND IT NOT WRONG IN THE COMMENTS TOO AND ALSO HOW WEIRDLY CHILDREN ARE PORTRAYED DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

I know SA is a crime majority of my life has been revolved around my own experience with it

The point of my comment is the double standards. Murder is accepted in fiction, other things are not

Yes bc ur arguing to argue

Theres no harm. You cannot generalize a whole community over minority is said community, otherwise you should do that will ALL communities

Since you don’t want me to go cherry picking then let us not bring up others then, but sorry; every action has its reaction. No one deserves to be raped under any circumstance, but the ones who typed weird stuff about kids out seems to clearly outnumber the ones who typed the rubbish about harm on somebody

oh my god this is going in circles no one in the comments is talking about a real experience

Do you know why murder is accepted in fiction or why horror is glorified? Because guess what! It still shows that murder is wrong!! It still hold it as a “crime”!! And the opposite character, until and unless the one murdered had massacred more, is not deemed as a very “nice person”.

U missed the whole point so badly Literally no community is entirely innocent which goes for both urs and mind

Does it prove any of our points. Because even if it is not a real experience they are also speaking about their feelings very openly, especially the ones they have for the child

You’re right about that, but you CANNOT compare murder to “lolicon”

I said it again, I will say it again in the hopes of you understanding and getting the reference.

It is the same as “porn doesn’t affect women”

here we go with the "this professional who has a degree in this topic should have their licensed revoked

Shes a professional, I'm not gonna listen to somebody on mangago over someone who's knowledgeable in this field

Any relationship beyond normalcy is abuse not just SA

Also dw about it i made many mistakes in my own claims

Yes, because theres a child who can be exploited in question

The media I found out was literally just a sebaciel fanfic Again nobody portrays it as good, the vast majority agree its bad hence why its TABOO. I acknowledge that pedophilia is wrong, but in fiction there is no pedophilia (unless theres drawings referencing a real person of course, but that should be obvious )

Murder is portrayed as bad yet theres cases of people murdering because of movies

This applies to any type of thing that is immoral irl, theres always going to be SOMEONE whos affected, but normal people dont let it affect them

Clearly.

According to u they're both things able to create predators

This is all involved with one another, whether it be murder, rape, lolisho, etc, because they share one thing in common; in real life it would be immoral and a crime

Then if you admit to it being abuse then you admit that in this scenario it could be abuse too?

Ignorance is bliss i guess

THERE IS NO ACTUAL CHILD

Its a picture, an idea, words on a page or screen

That is not a child and will never be a child

That is my point thank you. In movies where there are no proper portrayal that says it is bad people will think it is okay which is the case here

So say if a movie doesn’t say it’s a wrong action more people would feel VALIDATED, it’s not about recognising or distinguishing

Yes

Oh my god I might actually kill myself

This scenario would be abuse no matter how u put it. If it was acted upon. Many of us KNOW that, OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGE that

GIRL SORRY ITS THE SAME THING

Then shouldn’t you acknowledge that what this story is showing is glorifying abuse too? Since it shows how a child has his feelings partially reciprocated, not taught or shown any proper hesitance such as “no I cannot like you”

Do you know how many minors are here on this site and will actually not be able to distinguish wrong and right?
Irl too actually, since kids have access to these copies too I heard.

These spaces are not meant for children, if a child stumbles upon something that isnt meant for them I believe thats on the guardian not the creator

Idk where my other comment went but this is going nowhere

I will acknowledge theres somewhat of a reason to be concerned especially since someones always going to be affected (even if the media is portrayed as bad) , but thoughts dont reflect morals

Since I lost interest in trying to convince you (and vice versa) I sincerely wish you a good day as I will not debate on this any longer

There is no convincing
I am only stating a fact and you’re trying your best to defend it. I wish I could say that I understand your point of view but I do not. It seems you don’t get my point at all however much I try to make you understand it THROUGH YOUR OWN POINTS but yes goodbye