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Raymon has been starving for four days… but Winter has also been starving in the same way. Winter is a psychiatric patient, and while this doesn’t justify his crime, it explains the roots of his personality disorder. Winter is cruel because his perception isn’t normal—he harms both the person he loves and himself, and sees that as love due to a dynamic of family’s domestic violence. It seems Raymon met Winter when Winter was just a teenager. I initially thought they met as children, but oh well. I think the next chapter will be a flashback from Winter’s perspective, explaining why he’s so obsessed with Raymon. Is Raymon, a careless and selfish person, going to pay the price for being kind to a mentally unstable child? This is a tragedy bordering on the absurd.

As I’ve mentioned before, I don’t like Brett’s current behavior, and this chapter mainly focuses on Brett forcing Hayden having sex with him.
In this chapter, Hayden tries to resist but can’t match Brett’s strength, and in the end, he’s forced to climax by Brett. Brett doesn’t get aroused throughout, so I guess Brett only enjoys it if Hayden takes the lead (since he’s M).

The part where Brett covers Hayden’s head seems to show a small hint of Brett’s feelings for Hayden (I might be delusional, but it seems like Brett kissed Hayden through the shirt), yet for some reason, he doesn’t want Hayden to know he has feelings. When Hayden looks at him, Brett’s gaze is cold… There won’t be a new chapter next week, but the week after, there’ll be two. Thanks for joining my chapter review!

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Honestly, I was really surprised by this chapter. Most kidnapping and captivity stories go in the direction of relentless sexual violence until the victim is mind-broken, but this one explores the victim’s psychology pretty well and the drawing is so terrified, i really feel Raymon fear and craziness . I genuinely see Winter as a demon, just like Raymon does (though I still like Winter, which is kind of a problem lol). I haven’t read about a top as ruthless as this since I read Non-Zero Sum. At least in that one, Haeyoung would secretly check on Haewon and feed him. Winter, on the other hand, just leaves Raymon to starve. It’s honestly strange, whether he’s crazy or this is some kind of training…

Of course, Raymon is bound to develop a bit of “Stockholm syndrome,” especially with the “love-hate” tag, but it’s more about survival than “my captor is actually sympathetic.” And it’s not like he has much of a choice other than to compromise, lol. But I trust, judging by the summary and the cover art, that Raymon won’t submit easily. He’s not going to let Winter have control over him forever. I’m so excited for the next developments! I started reading this story casually because Winter’s design was my type, but I didn’t expect I’d end up liking it this much, haha.

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I know Winter is crazy and brutal toward Raymon, but this abandonment treatment is truly terrifying. No light, no food, no clean water, blankets…
It feels like being buried alive in a basement, waiting for death to come in despair. Is Winter really this cruel to Raymon, or is there something that happened preventing Winter from showing up?

Using this method to ‘teach’ Raymon can’t be too dangerous, right? Raymon could go insane and commit suicide unless Winter is watching the cameras and intervening if that happens…

I can feel Raymon’s fear, violence and rape is better than being abandoned in a place with no signs of life…this truly drive him insane, good luck Ray.
And Winter do you really think you want Raymon to love you? Because the way you treat him is very not it at all

Brett literally being violent with Hayden and rape him….idk what to said…
I have no idea how the author will regain my sympathy for Brett in the next chapter, but it’s currently dropping drastically.

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I like Winter, and I still do, even though his actions toward Raymon are unacceptable. Winter is genuinely interesting to me. While the author isn’t particularly great at character development and there are plenty of things that could be improved, it’s still enough to keep me buying and following the story.

Winter is basically a delusional madman. He’s violent and frightening, but not a cruel mastermind. In fact, he’s quite naive and childish. The way he acts with Raymon, like a clumsy, confused puppy, doesn’t seem fake either because he genuinely doesn’t know how to love Raymon. I’m not excusing his behavior, just analyzing it from Winter’s pov.

The author gives a lot of hints that Raymon always feels a strange sense of safety and familiarity with Winter, even when he’s kidnapped. I think they might have some kind of shared past. This is just speculation, but something could have happened that forced Raymon and Winter to depending on each other. This might have led to Winter’s possessiveness and obsession. It also seems like Raymon, although psychologically affected like Winter to some degree, has had some kind of therapy. I’m not say Raymon is entirely healthy, but at least he’s not in as bad a state as Winter. And because there’s such a big gap between them, Winter planned to imprison Raymon from the start. “Luckly” the incident with the other stalker gave Winter an opening to become fwb with Raymon, but that still wasn’t enough. Raymon could still leave him, so Winter stuck to his plan. However, Winter wasn’t really mentally prepared to face the real Raymon, not the idealized version of him. That’s why he panics so easily and acts so childishly. Winter isn’t a smart villain. If Raymon were calm and thought things through, he’d probably realize he could manipulate Winter instead.

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Raymon is still trying every way to stay alert, but it seems he’s starting to be manipulated by the isolation and confinement. This often leads to Stockholm Syndrome, because Winter is the only person who knows he’s trapped here, even if he’s the worst person to know…

Dominic doesn’t seem to be Raymon’s blood relative. I sense 2nd male lead vibes if Dominic isn’t Raymon’s brother, but Raymon probably family-zone him lol.

Hang in there, Raymon! You’re about to figure out how to manipulate Winter, don’t give up too soon!

Who has read the latest chapter yet? I just want to say that Season 2 Hayden did not disappoint me at all!
Finally, Hayden has succeeded in cornering Brett!!!

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A new development, could this new character be Raymon’s brother or a close relative? Since they have an appointment, it’s highly likely this person will go looking for Raymon. This is something to look forward to. Winter is really delulu, he’s even jealous of Raymon’s family

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It’s strange because I think by reading just the first 5 chapters, readers can already guess how dangerous Winter is. As I mentioned, the portrayal of “being violent towards a partner due to excessive love and losing control” has been normalized so much that when reading it, one might not feel that something is wrong? But by chapter 7, everything is very clear, and I think those who don’t like it would stop reading by then.

The captivity plot isn’t new, and I didn’t expect Winter to lock him up so soon (I thought Winter would toy with him for longer), but the reason I kept reading was because I was still curious about Winter. The way the author draws Winter’s expressions, sometimes cute, sometimes scary, is so compelling that it makes me want to keep reading. As for Raymon, I also want to see how he will fight back.

The plot isn’t new, but to criticize it as lazy, unappealing, or romanticizing rape is not accurate. There hasn’t been a rape scene where Winter’s actions towards Raymon weren’t painful or terrifying. The author clearly depicts Winter as insane, without a single romantic moment suggesting that he will treat Raymon well, he’s entirely delusional violence Crazy men. Raymon is also absolutely terrified of Winter, even though Raymon himself is masochistic. That’s what makes it intriguing, and the summary mentioning that Raymon will manipulate Winter to regain control and escape gives me more confidence that this isn’t a mindbreak porn.
The story may not be perfect, but so far it’s been solid in building the characters’ psychology. I haven’t seen any signs of romanticizing the characters’ wrongdoings. For example, the scene where Winter threatens Raymon, saying “Don’t make me doubt the nature of this relationship,” shows that Winter is aware of how wrong this relationship is, but he chooses to deceive himself in order to be happy. I guess Raymon will take advantage of this delusion of love to manipulate Winter in return.

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I read it for the brainrot porn and a bit of curiosity about the characters’ psychology, the conflict between desire and feelings but after seeing the fan reactions on every platform, I don’t even know what I was expecting? Woo Yeon originally loved Junghwi, not Woojin, and even Woojin himself still treats his hyung like a sex toy, forcing himself on him even when rejected. Woo Yeon had been brainwashed for a long time, and his logic is messed up, so he’s okay with his stepbrother helping him with sexual stuff??? I guess it has to be that absurd for them to “consensually” have sex, but in the end, it’s still just sex, not love. So, I’ll officially drop this series if Woo Yeon suddenly falls in love with Woojin because the dick so good or something by fan logic, and given the direction it’s heading + the fan reactions, that’s very likely. It’s my fault for expecting anything more than brainrot porn.

I decided to translate the scene in the hospital because it’s so good.

Brett : …Finally, I’ve met you.

That was a great tackle.

Hayden : Did you keep asking to meet just to say this?

Brett: …I said you wouldn’t lose anything, but now I’ve incurred a debt that’s hard to repay…

Hayden: There’s no debt at all.

That was my decision.

…I’m attracted to you.

I know you realize that too, but…

You don’t want me to say it out loud, do you?

I’m not stupid enough not to understand your signals.

But now it can’t go on any longer…

Hayden: I’ve marked you.

Brett: …What?

Hayden: I know, it’s impossible.

When I first heard about it, I thought so too.

Their said it was just a hallucination of the brain.

So, I don’t know when it will fade away.

…When I’m in front of you, everything becomes chaotic.

I can’t think clearly.

Even now… I think I need time.

You don’t need to visit me until I’m discharged.

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One interesting thing is that even though Winter keeps going on about how his relationship with Raymon is “love,” I don’t actually feel that way because Winter treat Raymon straight up brutal at least typical yandere tried to comfort their victim a little bit, Winter does non of that, he just being violent and scare the shit out of Raymon while saying like he adore him.
The way Winter looks at Raymon when Raymon goes against his wishes is quite cold and even openly annoyed. Maybe the “love-hate” hashtag isn’t just for Raymon
It does seem like that kind of love, where you love someone so much that you end up also hating them the most ? Winter so mess up and i end up like his character more lol

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Chapter 10 exists solely to dispel the idea that Raymon and Winter are equally crazy. Raymon, in despair, realizes how powerless he is against Winter. Winter is completely crazy and delusional.He decides everything on his own and acts on it with the thought “I’m only serving Raymon” Nope, that’s just the Raymon in his delusions. The real Raymon is terrified of him.
I can’t really call it’s porn…i mean the artist not drawing it sexy at all despite it uncensored, everything Winter did to Raymon is straight up torture and show as scary thing…which is good for me. But i do hope Winter stop fucking Raymon in next chapter tho, i want see more development than fucking…

Finally, Their come back!!! I can stop overthinking now!!!

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I’ve read quite a few BL stories with dark themes like rape, kidnapping, or Stockholm syndrome, and I’ve realized that the common reaction from many readers is, “Oh, the victim is a bit crazy too, so he and the perpetrator match each other freak” and the “Victim also make perpetrator cry and regret so their equal now” but yeah, no their not and i can said Raymon will never be crazy as Winter no matter how author developed his character in future, because he is Winter’s victim, their never be the same, idc author opinion on this, they may romanticize it or not, depending on various reasons. Since in fictional sometimes enjoyment more important that moral.
But still, just because the victim’s reaction isn’t to break down crying, go insane, or be terrified doesn’t mean they’re not a victim. Raymon may be hyper-sexual masochistic, but that doesn’t mean he wanted to be kidnapped or humiliated like how Winter treat him, not to mention Winter could literally kill him, that puppy cute boi is violent psychopath who also super delusional, normal logic not working on him. That why he scary af
Will their end up together and “match each other freaki” with crazy ass HE?
It’s hard to say, if the story follows real life moral standards, then no, but we’re talking about fiction here. Regardless of the author’s decision, I just hope they build the story with care, love, and respect for the character and the story, i have some down up and down feeling about how the story go now but everything can change my mind in future.
Whether this story has potential depends on the reader’s taste. For me, it still holds a lot interesting potential because I’m interested in Winter character and curious to see how Raymon will react the this horrible situation. I’ll continue following the developments to form my own opinion. I still like Winter as character tho, he fuck-up moments is so thrilling and a bit comedy to me tbh

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This is unrelated to the main plot, but I went to the author/artist’s Twitter, and there’s Chuseok (Korean holiday) art. Raymon is shown as someone who enjoys teasing and seducing Winter, while Winter keeps his usual innocent and awkward demeanor.

Basically, the two of them are attending a festival, and Raymon says he’s bored, so he suggests to Winter that they go “pound some rice cakes.” Winter, thinking Raymon really means pounding rice cakes, innocently asks if Raymon wants him to pound harder. Lol.
Maybe that will be their dynamic if Winter not crazy

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I don’t actually think their match eachother freak, at least not now. While it’s less exhausting to read when Raymon isn’t entirely the innocent victim since he’s got a bit of crazy in him, he’s still very much a victim, and the danger Winter brings goes beyond just violence, he could actually kill someone, including Raymon himself. Though this chapter feels like a build-up for the love-hate dynamic (as seen in the Korean version’s hashtags), I don’t think Raymon will give in and get mindbreak that easily, at least i hope so.
Also, Raymon is more of a sadomasochist and a dom/sub switch rather than purely masochist. The same goes for Winter, who enjoys serving but is also a terrifying sadist, like a beast.

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Now it explains why, no matter how many partners ,he could never feel satisfied. He was searching for control, but all his partners were too submissive. The real reason Winter fascinated Raymon was because of Winter’s violent nature. In hindsight, it’s no surprise that Raymon wasn’t normal for continuing the FWB relationship with Winter despite being treated so brutally. While this doesn’t justify Winter’s actions, Winter genuinely believed he was acting the way Raymon liked, and he kinda right (not counting the SA and kidnapping).

Although Raymon is an M, he still has a strong sense of pride. It seems that he once have self-destructive behaviors until someone gave him advice, which explains his obsession with controlling his sex partners
. I hope he keep his pride and fight to take control tho, because I’m not interesting in mindbreak story, but i did glad that Raymon is a bit crazy himself

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I’m quite surprised that many people were deceived by Winter. I understand that his appearance gives off a sense of comfort, puppy, and awkward top, which is also why Winter attracted me when I first saw the raw version in Korea, but even if we completely ignore the story summary, Winter’s violent and forceful behavior is quite obvious. I wonder if it’s because the trope of ‘the top being too emotional to control themselves with the bottom’ has become too normalized, so even though Winter is clearly a red flag who painfully bad at control himself and being violent toward Raymond during sex, readers still think this will be a ‘cute, golden retriever’ top?