I fucking despised this webtoon when it was new. I couldn't stand the characters, although I sympathised with Alex a lot but DG drove me up the wall.
Like a good webtoon does, it really has changed my feelings by emphasising character development and background. I changed the rating to 5 stars, which I have been considering for awhile.
I dunno why at first I had no sympathy for DG. Obviously his behaviour was kinda inappropriate but we all act that way when we first start dating.
I have to admit that I've been through the DG phase and am now battle-hardened like Alex :') So, really this webtoon has very very plausible characters, which is what makes it so solid.
This could also be an age and experience thing. Some people are old enough to be in Alex's shoes, having experienced romantic bloodbaths and having learned the hard way how you have to put up solid walls. I acted like DG when I was his age, which meant that even though I found him annoying, I could also sympathise.
Since you got around judging people and assuming things based on their preference on fictional characters we could do the same to you.
Your biased against Jiwon and your hatred towards him is obvious.
You seem like the immature and inexperienced here and you are so narrow minded and have this black and white logic.
There is more to Jiwon than just his involvement with DG.
And just because he treated DG in a way you consider bad that doesn't make him a "toxic" person or a bad person in general.
You chose to see and focus only on the negative parts.
All those characterisations against Jiwon is extreme exaggerating from people like you.
Insisting so much on the same broken record and judging Jiwon in such a one sided way without seeing the whole picture.
It goes to show your lack of empathy and understanding for others.
DG is not innocent either.You are taking away his agency and that thing about the rape is so pathetic and insulting for real rape victims.
I don't know anyone who has been raped that afterwards he was fanboying and using the incident in order to gain "love" from his supposed rapist.
Also if Mingwa wanted to show that clearly as rape she did quite the bad job.
If you were an adult with experiences you would understand it.
Another thing that baffles me is how people here are like "Jiwons past doesn't matter it doesn't excuse anything.Jiwon had choices but he chose to be an asshole" but when people like me tell them that this also applies to DG.
Just because he hasn't had any experiences before that doesn't mean he has to act like that with Jiwon.DG also has choices and he chose to stay with Jiwon despite everything.
If i say that they will defend DG and just label him a victim.
Also the fact that DG almost ruined Jiwons career and personal life is enough punishment and there shouldn't be any more apologies between them.
DG had multiple chances to clear things up and leave but he chose to be honest in the worst way possible in the worst place and time.By getting drunk and ruining everything.
And DG also raped Jiwon.He sucked his dick without Jiwon's consent.Also DG chose to have sex with Jiwon who was completely drunk and the next morning he didn't remember anything.DG didn't tell him anything about what happened the previous night.Sex with a drunk person can also be considered rape but nobody ever talks about those incidents involving DG.
That are even at best but my opinion is that DG has done more mistakes.
so I"m the biased now? I guess you don't know how to read.
I said it short and simple facts 1. Alex use DG - simple and clear! he know from the very start DG like him has a big fan, and use that! and he know fully well he was fulling in love with him, and kept using him more! you think it's okay, I"m not! and of course treat him like a slave. 2. Alex rape him twice - and he didn't even apolozie for it while DG did apolozie for ruining his "show" so yeas that by the way his cereer was FINE and great after that, DG is much more muture then Alex ever WAS! and again, you can't deny he didn't rape him! if you choose to ignore the rape, then you a bias prick!! 3. Alex had also multiple chances to clear things and end their thing they had if he really just wanted a "sex friend", but he choose not too cause he is not muture at all and only care for himaself!!
and no DG only mistake is fulling in love with an asshole that was only toxic to him and use him, and forgive him many times for been an asshole and rape him and of course been afraid to admit he was in love with him. that his only mistakes! but he did grow up and left a very toxic person - so DG is much more muture and smart then Alex ever was!
if you don't know how toxic Relationship works, go read about it! cause it clear you don't know how it's works! and it's nothing to do with age by the way.
when you say DG "past" did we even seen DG "past" and we did, what is DG past?? nope we didn't seen DG past yet so you can't really speak of his past. we only seen DG with Alex and how he is now after finiding work, after years of following Alex.
he choose to stay cause like many people in toxic Relationship - he wanted to believe it will become better, that Alex will become nicer to him. it's not easy to admit the one you love will abuse you, and some people never even admit it and stay with the said toxic people until the said toxic people murder them!!
and no, what he done to his said career was nothing, you know why? cause Alex didn't learn anything from it! he didn't even admit he did anything wrong to him!! and that's why it isn't enough and his career you love to mantion is fine and great!
You are biased because you only focus on DG and only see things from his point of view and you hate Jiwon only based on how he treated DG.
And most importantly you don't admit to DG's mistakes you say that his only mistake was to "fall in love with Jiwon"
You obviously don't know anything about relationships "toxic" or not.
You still ignore the facts that DG has also raped Jiwon twice and he never apologized either.He didn't even tell Jiwon that they had sex the night after the festival when Jiwon was drunk.
In that scene DG took advantage of the drunk Jiwon because Jiwon was vulnerable and acted sweet because of the alcohol and DG obviously could stop Jiwon but instead DG said "I will enjoy this moment" and continued having sex with the drunk Jiwon who never gave him consent.
Also the second time DG just walked in and performed oral sex on Jiwon despite not having his consent and he never apologized for it instead he said "I did what I did because I wanted you".
I can tell youre probably not an adult.
You also need to read and learn what rape is.
DG has done that to Jiwon twice.
why? cause I see how toxic Alex is and don't forgive him? how is that have anything to do with DG?!! you are an idiot bias that called anyone else bias cause you are the bias one here.
DG never rape him or do anything Alex didn't agree first, he asked Alex things but Alex had ALL THE POWER!! you just making things up now cause you out of idea to blame DG for no reason and proetect the toxic Alex.
and by the way, you talking about a drank person, Alex never was drank when he rape DG! and DG did apologized for it, in that you are wrong. and yeas I can see how you just a kid.
END OF STORY! STOP BEEN BIAS PRICK!
Omg you don't understand shit.You just keep insisting into hatred towards Jiwon while the story is moving on and so does the author want.
You don't understand English well and your vocabulary seems pretty limited plus you started insulting me on a personal level by calling names and you use excuse DG rapping Jiwon twice and you use the fact that he was drunk as an excuse.
If DG was drunk when he performed oral sex to Jiwon so it doesn't count as rape then why does his supposed love confession count as real and not just sthsth that happened because of alcohol.
to Fruit:
you the one who started to call me bias and names and assume my age, and yeas assuming someone age is rude XD I guess you really can't stop talking about yourself while blaming other's in what you do first.
I understand English thank you, I don't think you get what people say at all, the deeper meaning behind it.
DG never rape him twice, he did it ONE TIME, and even then he was drank and he didn't harm Alex like Alex did to his ass with the dildo. has I said befoe, read the comic again if you not believe me. it was Alex that rape DG twice cause he was the one who did all the sex all the story. all DG do is just let him have his way apart from ONE time.
so in other words, you okay with Alex rape DG, while he is not drank and force him to have sex with any mathod he want, but when DG get drank and finally DO something on it's own - you say he is the worst then Alex? you have no common sense then!
and by the way, DG didn't even manage to finish that "oral sex", so you can't called it a real rape or sex for that matter lol so you didn't notice from the very start DG like him a lot and was in love with him for all that time? I guess you really don't get anything in this story uh? the confession was only the climex of DG feelings that he hold up for a long time now. it is pretty obvious. DG just needed something that help him to loose his control on his feelings, what besically what Alchool do.
and yeas that's why people say you can't have sex with a drank person, it only be rape, cause they can't agree fully to it while drank cause they have no control over what they are doing. at least that what they say, I guess in your world it is different ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Dating a straight guy is a terrible idea, even more so after you've been heartbroken pursuing someone else. I know that, for the sake of the story, we want the two of them to get together, but irl I'd be encouraging YuYang to be running as far away as possible as fast as possible. Really not fond of this straight boy trope, although it can be done okay sometimes.
Great, the BL cliché "I'm straight but only have eyes for you xox" strikes again...
I get where you're coming from but I think it's quite realistic to not have a sexual interest in the same gender, but then meet someone that you are sexually interested in regardless of their gender. I've been on the receiving end of that before and I don't think it can happen just with looks, but if you get to know that person during a certain psychologically vulnerable or adaptable time in your life it does happen.
It's possible, but becomes extremely suspicious when it becomes so common that gay characters in BL seem to be, ironically, a rarity.
Similarly, if a woman in fiction does the cooking and cleaning, fine. But when it becomes a universal trend and women become rarely represented in other roles, it becomes a suspicious stereotype.
Simply put, I'm not questioning its possibility, but its suspect regularity within BL.
Yup... "That story" is always the one I wanna read in every BL, and it's never the one we get. This is the downside to the fact BL is marketed at women. It never covers actual gay experiences.
Not complaining too much though, very sweet to show them grown up.