Yumiswife's Topics (370)

Cuz sometimes they are paid to write/draw stuff like this.

Cause rent is due. It's up to the consumer to show they don't like it.

Need to put food on the plate

I mean ok I guess... but if their paycheck relies on sadly drawing dub con yaoi manwhas I would suggest they find a different job...

Tbh it makes me wonder if corrosive/rotten is novel based but seeing Aeju is fond of toxic bl, its not about rent for sure they co-wrote few toxic manhwa so its not about putting foods on the table anymore, its more about their passion for human toxicity

Well I guess it's better than doing This shit in Real life sooo

Exactly bestie like putting aside my contempt for toxic yaoi writers i don't see why the translator comment was necessary like the author clearly enjoy writing stuff like this. Besides people that enjoy reading this sort of stuff aren't going to care anyways whether or not "the ideas are different to the authors"

Yeah so im never gonna write about anyone being bad ever because BEING BAD IS MEAN DONT YOU KNOW ??? Its not like fiction is a safe way to explore ptoblematic subjects or anything...

so if u write about murders do u become a murderer according to ur logic ?

Best comment of the day.

Bruh that is not my point the point is why is the warning there in the first place

To protect the author?

We get this type of warnings before movies too specially violent one

The warning is for readers so they know what they’re getting themselves into and aren’t exposed to triggering content against their knowledge.

I mean there's already a warning there about that content. What I'm saying is why is there a warning about the "the views expressed are different than the authors"

Like i said before; to protect authors. Just because you write/draw something, it doesnt mean you agree with your works characters or events.

From what... bros entire author catalogue is dubcon and noncon mangas.. like most people reading are going to be into that stuff anyway. If its protecting the author from criticism - you ARE going to get criticism if you create/enjoy this sort of content its unavoidable and the author themselves probably knows that. "you've made your bed now lie in it" as the saying goes.

I think they more meant it as in that the author doesnt agree that toxic relationships are healthy.... or that rape is allowed. They just write/draw it. Thats it.

My sister is a writer that writes books. And she writes whatever she wants. That doesnt mean she agrees with everything she comes up with.

Bit ironic given that she has toxic relationships and rape in pretty much every series she's written.. but OK I guess...

Now you just hating. It’s literally one chapter in.

Metatron is the name of an archangel before being the name of a transformer lol

This is yaoi, a fiction story. It’s one chapter in.

It’s Yaoi thank god there isn’t females….

Literally lmao like girl didn't u get the hint by "Gabriel" alrd???

And the transformer is called megatron :)

So dramatic in the comments omg...

What can I say.. I'm just a born hater..

Well maybe the bible should've realised they were naming a angel after a transformer before they put it in there.

Now u just playing

Bro at that point you're just being funny

Yumis be like (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ : megatron > bible + metatron

... good.

lol why did u block me

LMFAOO

Can't even comment Jinx is Stinky without being blocked.. because of woke

The fact that people disagreed with this comment is so insane because you said nothing wrong??

Silence cyber troll. The only one who is a rapist here is DAN.

Lmao I'm flattered

Thanks bestie

Pls use your brain. Yeah, all séx scenes in this manhua are freaaakng HOT none can disagree unless you're blind. Watching horror movies does it mean you like murder/demons or whatever ? If readers were psychos what about authors, they must be interned, oh guess what :D they're not, I wonder why... Ppl like it coz it's a fiction. YES separate fiction from reality.

I think you should use yours. Murder in horror movies are almost always depicted as something "bad or shocking". Rape in yaoi manga is very often depicted as something to be brushed over or just another form of getting to the romance.
Both are horrific events but the difference is in how they are depicted.

I can tell you’re about 13 years old and you’re a girl Who is obsessed with BL because she doesn’t get attention OR love in real life. Rape is not hot and without rape in the real world ,There would be no rape in BL .If you ever get raped I hope you don’t keep the same mentality<3

Np love

Wtf so much going on.
First of all, wish me not to get rápe'd u b!tch before continuing u're nonsense speech. U weirdo.
Second, I'm 30 yo and Im getting enough love ty, pls stop claiming stuff u don't know about, I suggest you reassure yourself differently.
3rd, who tf said Ràpe was hot? Hello???? I get why you didn't understand my comment nor this manhua tho.
Finally, nothing to say to some1 who's telling to ppl to get Ràped to understand what it is. Cordialy fu.

I want to address some points here for your comment.

Personal Attacks: Commenting on someone's age or gender, or making personal assumptions, is not constructive and doesn’t contribute to a meaningful discussion. Let’s focus on the ideas rather than personal details.

Obsessions and Attention: Suggesting that someone's interests in BL (Boys' Love) are due to a lack of attention or love in real life is a strawman argument. Interests and fantasies are personal and can be complex; making assumptions about them doesn’t help the discussion.

Rape and BL: While it's true that some people explore sensitive themes like rape in fantasies or fiction, this doesn’t equate to endorsing real-world rape or making light of it. It's important to separate fantasy from reality and recognize that people can have different interests and fantasies without it reflecting their real-world values or experiences.

Future Attitudes: Wishing harm on someone or implying that their attitudes would change if they experienced trauma is both unhelpful and harmful. It’s essential to approach discussions with empathy and respect for differing perspectives.

I believe that productive conversations come from addressing the issues respectfully and constructively. If you have concerns or disagreements, let's discuss them in a way that is considerate and focused on understanding each other's viewpoints.

Thank you for your insights. You highlighted an important distinction between how sensitive themes like rape and murder are depicted in media and how individuals might perceive and react to them.

Depiction vs. Perception: It’s true that in horror movies, murder is often depicted as shocking and horrific, which is intended to elicit a strong emotional reaction. In contrast, some yaoi manga might portray rape in a way that’s more integrated into the romance narrative, which can affect how it is perceived by the audience. However, the impact of these depictions can vary widely among viewers.

Personal Interpretation: How a person views these depictions is crucial. While some may enjoy the dramatic elements of murder in horror as part of the genre's appeal, others might be deeply affected by it. Similarly, the way rape is portrayed in yaoi manga can be interpreted differently depending on individual experiences and sensitivities. The enjoyment or discomfort a person feels is influenced by their personal perspective and context.

Understanding Impact: Recognizing the difference between the depiction of sensitive themes and personal reactions is important. Media can shape our perceptions, but it’s also valuable to consider how people’s personal experiences and beliefs influence their interpretations of these themes.

Rape in stories: I don't know why are talking about rape on this page because Jinx does not have rape in it but has sexual coercion and other sexual abuse but that does not change any abuse Dan has faced. Have you ever wondered why Rape and SA stories are like that? Read the links in this post. https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14448911/
This could provide a reason. Rape fantasies is not the same as rape in real-life. While exploring these themes in fiction can sometimes be problematic, it’s essential to distinguish between the depiction of such themes in media and the endorsement or trivialization of real-world issues. Discussing and analyzing these portrayals can help us understand their impact and the narratives they reinforce.

Ultimately, it’s crucial to approach discussions about sensitive topics with empathy, acknowledging that people’s reactions and interpretations are diverse and complex. I appreciate your perspective on this and hope we can continue to explore these issues thoughtfully.

Bruh writing essays on illegal websites about rape mangas.

Firstly, YES this has rape in it. I looked at your link in which you try to say its not and it seems rather ironic because Dan saying "stop " and "i cant" and Jaekyung continuing is literally the definition of rape. If you do not consent or cannot consent to sex that IS rape.

Secondly, If you get off looking at pictures of other people getting raped REAL or FICTIONAL then idk bro I think you might have a problem. If we said the same thing about murder like i have "murder fantasies" and enjoy looking at drawings of people being murdered then we would be calling the police.

Lastly, I find it very difficult to even emphasise with the otherside considering no one seems to acknowledge the author could have written the exact same story without the rape/abuse altogether. It's lazy and insulting writing.

Your reply:
"Bruh writing essays on illegal websites about rape mangas."
------This is inaccurate and unwarranted. . It’s important to address the actual content and context of our discussion rather than making generalizations.

You said "I looked at your link in which you try to say its not"

------------That link I posted is about something else. You used a strawman argument.


"If you get off looking at pictures of other people getting raped REAL or FICTIONAL then idk bro I think you might have a problem. "
----------You said you looked at the link but that shows you didn't

"i have "murder fantasies" and enjoy looking at drawings of people being murdered then we would be calling the police."

----------Many people do and what crime is committed? The police would just laugh as many murder fantasies are popular. People enjoy with when characters are killed off. Many would love for Jaekyung to be killed off. Many would love to be the one to do so. But what are the police going to do when they want a character to die so much they would make it so? Nothing.


That is the difference being fiction and reality.


You suggested that if someone gets aroused by fictional depictions of rape, they might have a problem. ( showing you did not look at the link I posted) However, it's important to note that enjoying fictional scenarios, including those involving violence or crime, is not necessarily indicative of real-world behavior. Just as many people enjoy fictional depictions of murder in literature and media without it affecting their real-life actions, the same applies here. You should not assume about the person talking to you and making strawman arguments that is just base of your opinion instead of facts. You are trying to make others wrong by liking these types of stories and that is wrong of you.


Why I focused on your replies.
So could I take those moments and say you have no valid points and lack reading skills?
I am asking you because what you did with Jinx. Is it fair of me to take isolated things and make a judgement without considering the whole conversation? Labeling the scene from the manga as rape based solely on isolated quotes like "stop" and "no" without considering the entire narrative context is problematic. It’s essential to understand the broader context of the story and its characters’ interactions. Misinterpreting these elements can lead to unfair judgments.

I know you have reading skills but you wanted to dismiss me and force your opinions on me by taking the story out of content. When someone knows Jinx has no rape. it looks like you are saying Dan has green skin. When someone points it out you rather make others wrong and force your opinion on them without even listening. Is it fair of me to say that on a few quotes from you? No? Why are you doing that on a story?


No. Jinx is non-con but it is not rape. What happens after the "Stop"? What is the whole scene? What is the whole story? It’s crucial to analyze the entire narrative and the characters' interactions to understand the broader context. The story in question features complex elements that don’t equate to real-life rape when analyzed fully. And when someone says it is rape normally has not read much to understand or is a hater that is overexaggerating it on purpose.

The context doesn’t equate to rape. The characters’ interactions are part of a broader narrative that should be understood within its full context. It’s important to distinguish between actual consent issues and what’s depicted as part of the story’s plot.

It seems you might be overlooking perspectives from sex experts or broader analyses that could provide a more nuanced understanding of the content. Dismissing these insights because they conflict with your opinion can lead to misinterpretations. By changing what that link meant that reflects poorly on you.

You are getting a reply like this because of how you acted. Now image if you talked to me instead of what you did.

To have a meaningful conversation about sensitive topics, we need to base our arguments on accurate interpretations and avoid conflating fiction with real-life issues. Your approach seems to lack depth and analysis, which hinders productive discussion.

Authors often use various elements in their stories to explore different themes and character dynamics. The story in question might include complex or challenging situations, but this doesn’t automatically equate to endorsing or trivializing real-life issues like rape. Misrepresenting these elements can lead to misconceptions and unfair judgments. Jinx isn't as lazy or insulting writing as you think since it popular to amount to this much hate on it.

If we’re discussing sensitive topics like this, it’s important to base our arguments on accurate interpretations and avoid conflating fictional scenarios with real-world issues. Engaging in this way will lead to more meaningful and respectful discussions.

How you approached this is lazy and insulting yourself.
I did come to you seeking constructive dialogue. I am serious and I was being respectful. Your approach lacked both and impacts the quality of the discussion.

Also "Secure Haven August 9, 2024 1:41 pm" [ https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3690382/home/]

This person is a cyberstalker. They stole my friend's Identity [Secure Haven] but soon after they would steal my identity when I was [Steadfast and True].

We’re dealing with several individuals who are impersonating us. Currently, I think there are three active cyberstalkers: (There are more)

1. Account Created February 7: Initially thought to be separate from the February 21 account. This account seemed to start with amusement as their motivation
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3686909/home/

2. Account Created February 10: We suspect this account is linked to someone who feels wronged by "Morning Diamonds" and has made false claims about them. This person has previously said awful things about MD and seems to be ignoring how she treated them. This account seems motivated by resentment
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3690382/home/

3. Account Created February 21: This account is particularly hostile and filled with falsehoods. We’ve try to avoid this account due to its aggressive nature. It seems to be driven by a desire for power and control.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3703695/home/

https://imgur.com/a/AloU5Uy

These accounts do not represent me or any other targeted individuals. We are not affiliated with them in any way and reject their dishonest methods. The goal of these cyberstalkers appears to be to trigger reactions and spread falsehoods. Despite these attempts to disrupt, we remain committed to speaking the truth.

It's clear who's truly bothered here, and it's not the targets. Despite their attempts to disrupt, the truth will continue to stand. If the story “Jinx” were truly as “lazy and insulting writing” as claimed, it would not have generated such strong reactions or significant attention. The fact that it has led to cyberstalking and ongoing defense efforts indicates its impact and relevance. The time and effort invested by individuals in harassing others to cyberstalking against the truth and people standing up against their attacks reflect the significance of the subject matter. People don't waste time and effort on trash. If jinc was lazy and insulting writing" as claim many people would toss it out. People don't waste time on trash.

We are aware that these cyberstalkers may react to this communication by posting more falsehoods, but we will not be deterred. The truth will continue to stand despite their efforts.

Your Reply:

"This is inaccurate and unwarranted."

----According to Scribbr, the average High School Essay is 500-1000 words. This reply is 800 words alone. That is essay length.

"That link I posted is about something else. You used a strawman argument."
---You're right. I took one look at your reply in which you said Dan saying "No" and "I cant" is not rape and I was so baffled I didn't bother to look further.

"You said you looked at the link but that shows you didn't"
---Again you're right. I had a look now at your links and you seem to have created an extremely biased - again ESSAY-ESQUE- list of sources that solely support your viewpoint without considering the other. Tips for your essay, please consider counter arguments next time.

I do not deny rape fantasies exist and are harmless when that is in your consenting relationship. It is when rape is depicted in an unrealistic way such as this that is used solely as a vehicle to get to the smut that is a problem. It is insensitive and lazy.

"Many people do and what crime is committed? The police would just laugh as many murder fantasies are popular."
--Now where are your 600 sources on murder fantasies being popular???

"People enjoy with when characters are killed off. "
--I am not talking about when characters are killed off. I am talking about people going out of their way to consume media that depict others being killed. Which seems to be the case here- a sub genre of people who go out of their way to consume media that depict others being raped. You don't think that's a problem?

"However, it's important to note that enjoying fictional scenarios, including those involving violence or crime, is not necessarily indicative of real-world behavior."
--If I enjoy watching child p0rn, does that not make me a pedophile?
Additionally, let me refer to the concept of "desensitisation, disinhibitition and cognitive priming" in psychology.

"Labeling the scene from the manga as rape based solely on isolated quotes like "stop" and "no" without considering the entire narrative context is problematic."
--I can find you many examples of the rape and sexual abuse throughout this narrative context. Heres one:
Chapter 44. Jaekyung is drunk he says "if you don't want to do it. We won't" Dan says "He's never said that to me before" is that not indicative of a relationship based on rape and sexual abuse?

"I know you have reading skills but you wanted to dismiss me and force your opinions on me"
--LMAO WHERE ?? I expect I am going to get another 600 word essay promptly why would I try to "force my opinions" on you it's like talking to a brick wall with you guys.

"Jinx is non-con but it is not rape."
-- https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rape

"It seems you might be overlooking perspectives from sex experts or broader analyses that could provide a more nuanced understanding of the content."
---Hmm yes I really need to understand the perspectives from sex experts to REALLY appreciate and gain a nuanced understanding of this deeply layered literary piece.

"You are getting a reply like this because of how you acted. Now image if you talked to me instead of what you did."
---im sorry this is so funny why are you telling me off because I disagree with you LMAO.

"Jinx isn't as lazy or insulting writing as you think since it popular to amount to this much hate on it."
--The only reason this has so much "hate" at the moment is because the 12 year old on tiktok found it so more people are reading it. It is OK to be critical of the content you consume. It is OK to think the writing is lazy, if this story was so "nuanced" then we wouldn't be 53 chapters in and Jaekyung having no development and the story having no progress what so ever. It is OK to have opinions.

Thank you for your response. I'd like to address a few issues and clarify some points:

1. Length and Detail:

You mentioned that my previous reply was lengthy. The detail was meant to thoroughly address your concerns, though I understand if it seemed excessive. My aim was to be comprehensive, not to overwhelm. However, your replies are inaccurate and unwarranted. Also, in how you tried to counter what I said, didn't counter it. You misunderstood me. It is not an essay, Jinx has no rape and I see your condescending remarks. My goal was to provide a thorough explanation, not to provoke frustration.

Also, Understanding the comments and the story in question might help avoid confusion.


2. About the Link and Strawman Arguments:

The link I provided was to my friend's post not mine, and I stand by its relevance. I disagree with your characterization of it. It’s important to engage with the actual content rather than deflecting or conflating different issues. The focus should be on addressing the specific points rather than diverting the discussion.



3. Regarding Murder Fantasies:

Your comment about the need for sources on murder fantasies is noted. You just have to at what is on the media and what sales to know this is true. This seems to be a deflection rather than addressing the core issue. The point was about distinguishing between fictional media consumption and real-world behavior.


4. Comparing Fiction to Real-Life Issues:

Your analogy involving child pornography is inappropriate and misleading. This is a separate issue entirely. Fictional content, even if controversial, does not equate to illegal real-life acts. Comparing the two is a manipulative strawman argument and does not contribute to a productive discussion. We are talking about adults, not children. Child porn is wrong and illegal. to retort to that disgusting point shows you have no real arguments and feel like you are losing. Losing at what? Do you have to be right that much? You can't live your life doing this. This "counter" was morally wrong and highly deceitful.


5. Interpretation of Manga Content:

I acknowledged that the content of "Jinx" involves non-consensual elements and sexual abuse. The distinction I am making is between non-consent and rape. Misinterpreting isolated quotes can lead to misunderstandings. It's essential to analyze the entire narrative context to form a complete view.
You are acting like I said there was none. I never claimed there was no sexual abuse; I simply pointed out the distinction between non-consent, rape and other terms.

6. Addressing Your Comments:

Remarks suggesting it’s “like talking to a brick wall” or implying a lack of effort on my part are unproductive. Constructive dialogue requires engaging with the points made rather than dismissing them. I was not “telling you off” but explaining my stance based on how you engaged with my comments. Personal attacks and strawman arguments detract from the discussion.

7. Understanding Perspectives:

The comment about needing sex experts to understand the content seemed condescending. The aim should be to engage with differing views respectfully rather than diminishing them.


8. Personal Attacks and Opinions:

It’s important to distinguish between having differing opinions and making personal attacks. Critiquing a story or its elements should focus on the content, not on attacking others for their views. Yes, it is okay to have opinions. But it is not okay to attack others or make others feel wrong with what they like or love. I never said my position on Jinx. It is wrong to attack others then say that is an opinion. However, these should be presented respectfully, focusing on the content rather than personal attacks.



9. On Story Development:

While you critique the development of "Jinx," I believe the story elements are different from what you said as Jaekyung did have some character development and there was process. Criticism should be presented respectfully and based on accurate interpretations rather than exaggerated details. When the comments are exaggerated the details to be over-critical, that makes it not an opinion but just hate. Hate is not opinion. No before you claim it, "I hate jinx" is an opinion. That is different from hate comments. T


10. Final Thoughts:

Engaging in discussions about sensitive topics requires careful consideration of different perspectives and avoiding conflation of fiction with real-world issues. It’s crucial to base arguments on accurate interpretations and to respect differing viewpoints.


OH, that link is a basic definition of rape and excludes many forms of rape. While it captures a crucial aspect of rape, it doesn’t fully encompass the various forms and nuances of sexual violence. A more comprehensive definition might include various forms of non-consensual sexual activity, acknowledging that sexual violence can take many shapes and occur under different circumstances. Understanding this broader context helps in accurately discussing and addressing issues related to sexual violence.
However even a basic definition debunks rape being in Jinx. But if want rape in the story Chapter 44 both were drunk and neither could consent. The special with Potato and Heesung both were drunk and neither could consent. That is excluding many things to make it rape.


"Morally and legally, it is still rape if someone is: Drinking alcohol – taking advantage of someone when they have had too much to drink, or have taken drugs, is rape. Even if they seem willing they can be too drunk to consent properly"

https://sheffielddact.org.uk/domestic-abuse/get-help/sex-and-consent/#:~:text=Morally%20and%20legally%2C%20it%20is,too%20drunk%20to%20consent%20properly
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I wished I looked at my email. I would had found this. This is written by another one of my friends.
Rape.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/4538-rape-and-date-rape Rape
is a form of sexual assault in which a person (man, woman orchild) is forced to engage in sexual relations (vaginal, anal or oral) against his or her will or without having given consent. Often an attacker will use physical force in committing rape; however, rape also occurs when someone uses threats of violence or emotional force or manipulation to engage an individual in sex.


Rape is a FORM of Sexual Assault. Sexual assault means more. In which a person is forced to engage in sexual relations. Where is that in Jinx?
Jinx is non-consensual but it is not rape. Sexual coercion is sexual assault not rape."

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/nonconsensual
https://academicaffairs.syracuse.edu/faculty-affairs/policies-and-procedures/faculty-manual/4-2-sexual-activity-non-consensual/
". The University will not tolerate rape, sexual assault, or other forms of sexual violence or nonconsensual sexual activity."

Why is a university separating rape and nonconsensual?
Because rape is non-con but non-con means more.

"Any actual or attempted nonconsensual sexual activity including, but not limited to: sexual intercourse, or sexual touching, committed without physical force, coercion, threat, or intimidation; exhibitionism or sexual language of a threatening nature by a person(s) known or unknown to the victim."

Sexual touching is non con? touching?

https://legalvoice.org/nonconsensual-pornography/

“Nonconsensual pornography” is when a sexually graphic image of you is shared without your consent.

https://www.youthpower.org/youthpower-issues/topics/non-consensual-sex
Non-consensual sex takes many forms, including forced sex, transactional sex, cross-generational sex, unwanted touch, and molestation.

Rape is non-con but not all non-con is rape but explain how molestation is rape?
"Sexual coercion is sexual assault, not rape."

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion.
"
It is a type of sexual assault because even if someone says yes, they are not giving their consent freely."

Only one time on that page do they make clear one type is rape. The rest is sexual assault.

sorry for the above couple of comments that was my other account. I am currently on schizophrenic medication that I need to come off of until then I shall be defending rape and also talking to minors. The minor in this case is 16 years old and paedophilia only because it’s 13 and under.

Just to prove my comment above this is my account that I used to justify Jaekyungs actions against Dan. I admit that you had out ChatGPTed me and this is why I haven’t responded for hours on end since I couldn’t find anything else to rebuttal your absolutely impeccable statements with which is why instead I shall be referring to you as a cybertroll from now on as I have with two other people. Including the 16 year-old that I was talking to as a married man any comment below this one is not mine is a troll

Let's see
Cyberstalker from February 10 has come in with two posts with the second one she changed names to look like two accounts instead of one. She also tried to make it look like we were all the same person.

In this situation, there are cyberstalkers and their targets. One of the cyberstalkers is trying to blur the lines between us and them, pretending that the targets are actually them. While they may claim to have schizophrenia, it’s important to emphasize that the targets are not them, and we are not them. Their goal is to harm the targets by pretending to be one of us.


I did not read her two replies. but it is concerning that someone would attempt to weaponize mental health issues like schizophrenia as part of their harassment tactics.


It’s unfortunate that they feel the need to resort to false accusations and mockery in an attempt to provoke a reaction. Posting factual replies and standing up against harassment is not 'crying'—it's about maintaining integrity and not allowing lies to go unchallenged.

These baseless claims have already been debunked, and continuing to spread them only further discredits their position. We see through these tactics, and they won't deter us from speaking the truth.

It's clear who's truly bothered here, and it's not the targets. Despite their attempts to disrupt, the truth will continue to stand.

Also the cyberstalker 2/10 has made it clear they were not the targets as they claimed to be here.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/16683925/?page=9

Idk if you are talking to me or one of your bot friends you are pretending to have beef with but this is so funny imagine having multiple accounts and using ChatGPT to defend Jinx on mangago that illegally posts it without the authors consent. Regardless of any thoughts on the comic I think it is very sad... I am going to go touch some grass ...

Thank you for touching grass. That’s more than what I can do.

I’m not reading all that you will do anything in your power to defend a literal mango with a rape that’s so embarrassing LOL me when I write a seven page essay on why I should be allowed to read rape and then he said he’s bringing up trauma what the fuck are you talking about

Exactly lol They're either using chatGPT for this or they actually writing those 7 page essays.. i can't tell which is more embarrassing....

It seems like my points were misunderstood or dismissed. My goal was to encourage a respectful and meaningful discussion. If you’re not interested in engaging in that kind of conversation, that’s your choice. However, I’m not here to defend anything but rather to discuss ideas and perspectives in a way that’s respectful to everyone involved.
Your opinion that contradicts my comments and the truth only embarrass yourself and puts yourself down. Thanks for proving my point.

It’s not embarrassing to care deeply about something and take the time to articulate my thoughts. What *is* embarrassing is trying to reduce someone to a bot just because they're making a well-constructed argument. If the truth is uncomfortable, dismissing or discrediting others won’t change it—it only reveals an inability to accept being wrong or to engage in meaningful conversation.

I use ChatGPT as a tool to ensure clarity and constructive communication, particularly when dealing with cyberstalkers. The cyberstalkers are not the targets; we are not the same. It's morally wrong to conflate us, and doing so only degrades yourself by showing an unwillingness to address the points I've made. It’s a serious matter, and dismissing it as such diminishes your credibility, not mine.

For the record, ChatGPT doesn’t write my responses; it helps reword my own thoughts. It's time to grow up, engage in real, respectful dialogue, and stop resorting to these petty tactics just because the truth is difficult to face.

Seriously be honest do you find it a *little* bit embarrassing (regardless of the context of the manwha) that you have multiple accounts that you use in this comment section to defend it, write essay length comments and that you use chatgpt here at all. I genuinely say this not wanting to be mean because I feel sorry for you that you put so much effort into defending jinx on mangago dot me.
I'm also kind of envious like I've been reading manga/manwha/manhua for over 14 years now yet I have NEVER come across a series that I would put so much extreme effort into defending on the Internet. I genuinely curious what is it about Jinx that warrants this response from you?

Exactly I’ve never seen somebody so committed to just Reading rape

When people read my comments, they'll see that I don’t have multiple accounts, and I'm not here to defend Jinx or any specific series. What I am defending is the importance of thoughtful, respectful discussion and the people who have been attacked or cyberstalked. People are not a story.

Writing long messages isn’t a flaw—it’s a sign of care and effort to communicate effectively, especially on complex topics. You're on a site meant for reading, so trying to degrade people for expressing themselves is both dishonest and disappointing.

It seems you're attempting to discredit me by making false assumptions and using strawman arguments rather than engaging with the actual points I’ve made. Resorting to such tactics and personal attacks is what's truly embarrassing.

There’s no need to feel sorry for me—your attempts at manipulation reflect more on you than they do on me. I’m secure in the truth I’ve shared, and the fact that you can’t admit you were wrong is what’s truly sad.

ChatGPT isn't writing my responses; it’s a tool I use to ensure clarity, much like anyone would use spell check or a thesaurus. There’s nothing shameful about that.

If you’re genuinely curious about what motivates me, it’s the desire to foster meaningful conversations and address misinformation, especially when people are being attacked by haters. If we can focus on the actual issues instead of resorting to assumptions and personal attacks, I’m happy to continue the discussion. Otherwise, maybe it’s time to reflect on what your words and manipulations are really saying about you.

Strawman argument—there’s no one that fits that narrative, and there’s no rape in this story. People are not a story. Maybe it’s time to reflect on how your behavior is degrading you.

I addressed the cyberstalker situation.
There are many accounts stealing the identities of others.

This is a cyberstalker comment aimed at harming their targets by using a name I’ve used. I am one of those targets. They’re trying to confuse everyone by making it seem like we’re the same person, but they’re just deflecting and projecting their behavior using names stolen from their targets. They’re also relying on debunked material.

It's deeply concerning that someone would weaponize mental health issues, like schizophrenia, as part of their harassment. Mental health should never be used to discredit others or justify harmful behavior. The targets of this harassment are not the ones suffering from schizophrenia—it's the cyberstalkers who are creating confusion and harm by pretending to be them. This behavior is damaging and unfair to everyone involved.

They’ve also misrepresented what was said, twisting it to suit their narrative. What was actually said debunked their framing attempts and showed they were using the wrong terms.

There is no rape in this story?…. On ok…

The same cyberstalker with the same manipulation and false narrative with falsehoods.
They use cyber troll. They are trying to pretend to be a toll. None of the targets would use cyber troll or troll for them.
They are trying to confuse people by stealing identities and make people believe it is the targets talking. We are not them.

Oh look, I’ve addressed the cyberstalker’s comments here.

It’s strange to think those comments could be from me when they’re clearly written by someone intent on harming others, including me.

You’re addressing the cyberstalker, not a bot or me. We are not them. There are no bots. Stupid strawman argument. No one is defending Jinx.

They have a vendetta against us. They’re more like you, harassing and creating smokescreens to target people who are different. When they’re called out and can’t admit they’re wrong, they resort to stealing identities to try to humiliate their targets. The same thing you're trying to doing here.

You need to go back and read and learn how you are degrading yourself and contradicting my comments.
You may think you are laughing at me and just bullying others but to me you look at out of touch with reality or just degrading yourself here by trying to laugh at someone. That someone only exist in your false narrative.

Why am I wrong? We are allowed to disagree aren't we? Also I'm not targeting you

Not to mention you have now demonstrated tou have 2 accounts. Truth and Trust and Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right. You still haven't answered my question about why Jinx of all mangas, again I'm genuinely curious no malice intended.

Stop. If you go back to where I initially commented as 'Truth and Trust' and click the link, it will take you to my profile under the name 'Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right.' This is my profile. The second 'Truth and Trust' is a cyberstalker who stole my identity, and I changed my name afterward. I have shown that I have only one account here, which has undergone a name change. The second 'Truth and Trust' is not me. The last time I checked, they still had that name.

Regarding the question 'Why Jinx of all manga?'—this is the first time I’m seeing that question. Someone was attacking others and others defended the targets. Now, the protectoes are being attacked and lied about. I am standing and protecting them. Once again, people are not Jinx. Why are you making this Jinx?

You are telling me this for how you are targeting me and how you are deflecting.
People can disagree. It is normal. However, you are not disagreeing with me.
Have you read your comments to me? Read them as if someone sent them to you. You will see personal attacks, mockery, condescension, dismissal and false accusations. It is wrong to treat people like this.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3690382/

This is the cyberstalker ^
They, at this time, still have their name set to “Truth and Trust.

We want to make it clear that we do not share the views or beliefs of those pretending to be us. We are not affiliated with them in any way and do not condone their actions, perspectives, behaviors, or false narratives.

This is my first comment and when you click the link or respond to my comments it would say “morning Diamonds 10/7 is right.”

https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3699209/
This is the only profile I have on Jinx. My main account is not going to be on Jinx. I made this to defend my friends.

Again personal attacks where?? I only ask questions. In regards to "defending your
friends" i made this thread directed at no one and you came here yourself also considering I've seen you under comments/threads that mildly criticises Jinx I don't think "defending your friends" stands. Again, I will ask the question you are avoiding: why jinx of all mangas?

Hey [Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right],

I see that the discussion has really shifted away from the original topic, and it seems like the focus has moved from the content of “Jinx” and the broader discussion on fictional portrayals to personal attacks and misinformation. It’s unfortunate that the OP has ignored the points about cyberstalking and has continued to redirect the conversation in a way that seems unproductive.

Here’s a summary of what’s been happening:

Fiction vs. Reality: The original discussion about “Jinx” and its portrayal of non-consensual elements has been overshadowed. It's essential to remember that engaging with fictional content doesn’t mean endorsing real-world behaviors. Fiction often explores challenging themes to provoke thought and provide insight, and people engage with it in various ways.

Cyberstalking Issue: Despite explaining the situation with the cyberstalkers multiple times, it seems that the OP has dismissed these concerns and instead focused on personal attacks and misleading narratives.

The OP’s Approach: It appears that the OP is not engaging in good faith. They’ve dismissed your explanations and have avoided addressing the factual points you’ve raised. Instead, they’ve redirected the discussion in a manner that seems designed to provoke rather than engage constructively.

Given these points, it might be worth considering whether continuing this conversation is productive. It seems like the OP is not interested in a genuine discussion but rather in deflecting and creating conflict. You’ve made your points clearly and addressed the relevant issues, and it’s important to recognize when a discussion has reached an impasse.


If you feel it’s no longer constructive, it might be best to step away from the conversation and focus on more productive engagements. Sometimes, moving on can be the best way to preserve your energy and avoid further frustration. I don't see this being productive as you did answer the OP's question but they dismissed it and pretended you were ignoring them. It seems they made it about them instead of listening to you. They have been giving you the run around here. I think it is in bad faith. Their topic here has been in bad faith since the beginning.
I suggest not to anwser them while they are being unreasonable and making things up.

Hello [definitely not a alternative account of morning Diamonds is right and truth and trust etc]
I am going to clarify a few things:

My original topic stands. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it, just as you are entitled to yours.

Fiction vs Reality: The fiction vs reality became overshadowed because I do not agree with you and your "cyber stalker" bot friends showed up. Again I am allowed to disagree with you.

Cyberstalking: I don't see what your cyber stalking has to do with me. I have shared and seen controversial opinions on this site (ie, love is an illusion comment section) but i have never seen any other instance of "cyberstalking" someone on this site which is why i "dismissed it". I'm sorry it's happening but that's not really my problem.

The OPs approach: I repeat. I am allowed to disagree with you. I do not agree with the points and links that you raised as i thought they were biased and do not consider counter arguments. That is OK. There is nothing wrong with us having a difference of opinion.

I'll add another topic,
My Question of why Jinx: Jinx is not the first manga to have rape/sexual abuse/whatever and sadly won't be the last. I asked the question because there are HUNDREDS of mangas on this website that contain such themes, so why not defend another comic instead? If your "friends" are reading Jinx then surely they are reading one of these other comics? When i asked this question of "why jinx" you could have said anything: ie, "because i like" the characters, the art, the boxing etc. The fact you continue to not answer this question while commenting on pretty much every other comment that mildly criticises the manga yet paint me as "deflecting and creating conflict" is very interesting...

I do agree we have reached an impasse. But don't make it seem as though I am the one being unreasonable for disagreeing with you. its quite embarrassing...

Hi Yumiswife,

I initially intended to communicate only with my friend, but given the direction this conversation has taken, I’d like to address a few important points to clarify misunderstandings and promote constructive dialogue. My friend misunderstood your question about “Why Jinx,” so let’s clear up a few things:

Constructive Dialogue: I respect your right to your opinions, but for a meaningful discussion, it’s important that we rely on factual evidence and mutual respect. Accusations about connections to bad faith actors are counterproductive and only escalate tensions.

Misidentification: There seems to be confusion about our identities. I am not my friend, and while my friend has two accounts, the second account is not involved in the “Jinx” discussion. We are not connected with any cyberstalking activities or fake accounts. Your claims about this are based on misunderstandings and don’t reflect reality. My friend has explained this several times, and continuing to misidentify us only reflects poorly on the discussion. It’s important to recognize when an opinion might be incorrect.

Disagreement and Facts: It’s clear that you disagree on several factual points, but this disagreement should be based on facts and evidence rather than assumptions. For example, Jaekyung being an MMA fighter, not a boxer. But if we correct you, you would want to still use boxer and be incorrect. You are not disagreeing with us as you think. We have not posted an opinion. We are ground on facts and evidence. You are disagreeing with facts. We are not those facts. This is not an opinion vs opinion.

This disagreement should be based on accurate information, not assumptions. We are discussing facts, not opinions, and correcting misinformation is crucial for a constructive conversation.

Cyberstalking Warning: My friend mentioned cyberstalking to inform you that there might be impersonators involved. The intention was to help you distinguish between genuine and fake comments, not to connect us with those activities. Ignoring this warning and dismissing the impact and crime of cyberstalking is concerning. Understanding and addressing cyberstalking is important for everyone’s safety.
I hope you never had this happen to you but if you get cyberstalked that you don't meet many with how you are acting. Cyberstalking is a crime.

Bias and Deflection: Labeling our points as biased deflects from the actual discussion. We are focused on presenting facts, not biased opinions.

Defending “Jinx”: We are not defending “Jinx” but discussing the broader themes and issues related to it. We defending people and facts.

Intentions: Clarifying intentions and avoiding assumptions is crucial. Some of your comments resemble those made by individuals involved in cyberstalking us. Engaging in constructive dialogue and clarifying your intentions would be helpful.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion and allows us to continue this discussion more productively. If this is met in the same unproductive manner, we will not engage.

Hi Yumi:> I have mixed feelings on the depiction of rape/sexual assault in media and its broader implications so while I agree with you on some things, I also disagree with you on others. Plus there are some things where I’m like I don’t know, there’s not one answer or the answer is in and of itself complicated…such is life!

But I do agree with you that what is depicted in this Webtoon is rape and that the story overall is lazy. I’d be more than happy to delve into all this with you if you’d like/if you’re curious :) I’m more so making this comment…well both for your sake and for the sake of addressing the person you’ve been talking to in this thread so far, who has blocked me for some reason, even though we’ve never even interacted before. Very disappointing, I’d liked to have addressed some of their comments more directly. Maybe they’re friends with Persistent Quill and I think…hm I forgot the name of the other person/the other people I tried talking with about this, because their opinions seem to really echo each other and they have quite similar arguments! I remember Persistent Quill and others made a lot of statements about how mean I was coming across and how I wasn’t using evidence and whatnot, how I had also been resorting to personal attacks instead of directly addressing their arguments.

I’ll be honest and say I was rather aggressive throughout our interactions—but I had been asking them clarifying questions and asking for sources both from the text and elsewhere to help me understand their perspective better, too. I had also eventually gone back and reread the first four chapters and took notes on them so that I could ensure that I was being accurate in my evaluation on the question of whether or not Jinx depicted rape, and I had provided these notes several times, asking for feedback and clarification for where I may have gone wrong/where I may have misinterpreted something/missed something/where an alternative reading might lie. Alas, I was blocked and ignored. Regardless though, it’s interesting because I feel like this person Morning Diamonds has been resorting to using the same tactics their possible friends have been critiquing themselves, personally attacking you and your ability to critically analyze media and making you out to not be able to understand other viewpoints amongst other things. It’s very sad to see. But I just wanted to step in here and say that I think that the text of Jinx as well as the sources that person has provided substantiates your viewpoint that there is rape being depicted here :)

If that person is reading this, I still really do want to see what you have to think about my chapter analysis! I still have it on hand and I would be more than happy and willing to post it again. I’ll even go back and reread those first few chapters again and/or refine and clarify my notes if that would be conducive to a better discussion :)

You are 100% the same person. lmao where has your friend(s) gone and why do you speak in exactly the same tone and manner.

"We have not posted an opinion. We are ground on facts and evidence. You are disagreeing with facts. We are not those facts. This is not an opinion vs opinion."
Bruh just because you pull out some articles and studies supporting your claim does not mean they are "facts". Consider falsifiability. A good arguement for a case considers counter points of view (which you have not because you are 100% right I guess). If I were to pull out some articles and studies supporting my side that would not mean I an right either. I can certainly present you with articles supporting my side of "enjoying rape in fiction is bad" if you so wish but I haven't because frankly i have better things to do with my time.

"For example, Jaekyung being an MMA fighter, not a boxer. But if we correct you, you would want to still use boxer and be incorrect."
MY GOD... you caught me can you read my mind? (This is sarcasm I don't really care I just called it the wrong thing it's not that serious this is not the "gotcha" moment you think it is)

"Labeling our points as biased deflects from the actual discussion. We are focused on presenting facts, not biased opinions." Yes you are biased. Say if I thought "all peanut allergies are fake" and only included articles that support the idea in my argument. that is called having a bias, which is what you are doing.

"We are not defending “Jinx” but discussing the broader themes and issues related to it."
Yes you are. I can link the comments made by other people that mildly criticise Jinx or express frustation and where you and your "friends" immediately jump to its defence if you want. Someone should comment "Jinx is stinky" and I bet you would be there LOL

Yet again you do not tell me what it is about Jinx that you like so much i am interested in these "themes" you are talking about. I'm starting to think the only thing you like is the comment section..

WOW thanks bestie it's as if we are allowed to have different opinions! I appreciate you x

Well, my friend [TM is right], you called it. She still insists that we're the same person, which shows she's not open to reassessing her stance. It seems she's not just mistaken but is relying on strawman arguments. She dismisses the facts we present and accuses us of bias, claiming we’re defending "Jinx." Her continuous false claims and personal attacks suggest she might be trolling since she’s not addressing the actual issues.

It’s clear that we are separate individuals and are not involved in any cyberstalking activities. Her claims to the contrary are incorrect and unproductive. It’s crucial to focus on the discussion at hand rather than engaging in personal attacks.

Her accusations seem more like confessions of her own misunderstandings. While I did initially misinterpret her question, I would have addressed it if not for her aggressive and deceitful approach. She asked me, not you and you can’t answer for me.

It’s evident she doesn’t know us or our intentions. She can only lie and that shows she knows she is wrong.

To all,

I want to clarify a few things, especially given the recent shift towards personal attacks and misinformation that seems to be overshadowing the actual points being discussed. It’s important to recognize that conversations about rape and sexual assault in media can evoke mixed feelings in everyone, including my friends and me. There often aren’t simple answers to these complex issues, and that’s how life is.

Regarding the recent comments and interactions:

Acknowledging Aggression: I appreciate that Akaito has admitted to being aggressive in his interactions with my friend. However, we have chosen not to engage further with individuals whose approach is unproductive or hostile. Continued aggression and false accusations hinder meaningful discussion. Many of us saw how Akaito was treating my friend, leading to the decision to block and ignore them as a boundary-setting measure. It’s important for Akaito to understand why we don’t wish to continue the conversation with them.

Unnecessary Chiming In: Akaito’s recent comments about addressing the situation with us are unnecessary, as we have already decided to step away from the discussion if it remains unproductive. Our intention has always been to focus on facts, not to engage in arguments or personal attacks. Presenting facts should not be misconstrued as making arguments.

Engaging with Aggression: We clearly communicated our position to Akaito and chose to stop engaging when the conversation stayed unconstructive. The repeated clarifying questions continued after we were stated the position and was met with more aggression. it would be counterproductive Responding further to Akaito, who has exhibited aggressive behavior,

False Accusations and Misunderstandings: The claims that we personally attacked the OP and other false accusations are unfounded. We have addressed our concerns based on facts and have avoided personal attacks. Using tools like ChatGPT helps ensure our communication remains fact-based and void of personal attacks. Akaito’s behavior, including lying and omitting details, undermines constructive dialogue.

Chapter Analysis and Misrepresentation: While Akaito mentions rereading and analyzing the chapters, their aggressive and false accusations undermine their credibility. Constructive dialogue requires honesty and accurate representation, which are lacking in these interactions. Discussions should be grounded in facts rather than personal grievances.

Regarding Morning Diamonds, the account [Morning Diamonds 10/6 is right] clearly indicates that they are not the same person as the original Morning Diamonds, as they are commenting about them rather than being them. For someone with an English major, this misunderstanding is surprising. The original Morning Diamonds has not responded in months. It is suspicious for him to narrow in on that name as he did.

In summary, while differing opinions on "Jinx" are valid, it’s essential to focus on factual accuracy. We were not saying the opinion is wrong. But as a factual claim it is wrong. The portrayal in "Jinx" might involve elements some view as related to rape, but labeling it as such without careful consideration of the story’s context is misleading. Constructive dialogue requires honesty and respect. We are willing to engage in discussions that adhere to these principles. However, we will step away from conversations with those displaying bad faith behavior, as seen with Yumiswife and Akaito.

Thank you.

Lol you forgot the numbers. It is [TM joined on 1/26/20 is right].
Sadly, I was right and she is overreacting now.
You are right she can only lie about us now and that shows she knows she is wrong. We tried to have a constructive dialogue:

It seems I will just have to respond to myself since no one wants to address me directly. Honestly, I find this behavior to be hurtful and honestly a bit abusive! It’s like if I was in a relationship and my partner kept giving me the cold shoulder and talking as if I weren’t there, saying how horrible I am, even though I acknowledged my wrongs and offered to behave in accordance to what they wanted me to do. Kind of like what Jaekyung does to Dan on occasion! This kind of thing can have a profound negative impact on someone’s mental health, which, as people who have been under constant attack, I would’ve hoped you’d understand. I’m not saying that that’s your intent but it is the effect it is having on me—especially when you do something like bring up how my status as an English Major (a personal attack) should somehow make it so my reading comprehension is perfect and infallible, for example, that it should make it so that I’m perfectly able to keep track of every single person I’m interacting with or responding to (especially when I can’t even respond directly to the people in question because they have me blocked!). The implication being here that I must be lying, or that I must be poor at doing some of the things that I am most passionate about. I’ve talked with some of my friends about it and so they know all about how bad this has been for me—even the darker, spiraling thoughts I’ve experienced as a result of earnestly trying to engage in this discussion over and over again.

Anyway, as I’ve said before, I’d be more than willing to provide my notes/analysis again and as I’ve said I’m open and willing to be wrong. If I’ve missed some details, tell me which ones! If I’ve misinterpreted something, tell me how! If my understanding of something is incomplete, fill in the details for me! I don’t claim to be perfect and I never have. Someone told me to go reread the chapters and I did, even taking notes, because I recognized that I may indeed have missed details or misremembered the order of events. And it turned out that I had forgotten certain things! So :)

In sorry Akaito that they are like this you seem like a genuine person and they clearly do not want to listen to you. Look after yourself bestie and stay safe x

[Let me just open my alternative account real quick to prove I am 2 people]
Anyway. You seem to have ignored ALL my points in my previous comment and have now proved you ignore others arguments as well (Akaito). I would like to see where I am being "aggressive". Frankly I don't see the point of engaging in discussion in someone who wants to create an echo chamber and disregards other points of view as "wrong". GOODBYE!

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