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Their relationship summed up in two sentences

I believe that the actual uploader will post everything, at this frequency. May I ask if the manhua is completed at 129th?

No it's still ongoing. It just keeps getting better and more serious, with touches of humour, as it goes along. I love it.

Well, I'm looking forward to the updates then, I'm loving this stoer even thought I originally came for the yaoi tag. Their relationship's dynamic is really good, even thought it'a slow af.

I'm really sorry this happened to you! It's good that you found the courage to leave. I hope that you are doing well and that now you know the difference between a good healthy relationship and a bad one! Good Luck with everything! (●'◡'●)ﾉ

He should be thankful to seungho later lol who knows what would happen if the teacher approached Nakyum first. He'd probably look at him in disgust and insult him in a traumatic way. It's obvious that the teacher is just a piece of shit. Seungho is more decent than that guy lol

He shouldn’t be thankful, they’re both trash in my opinion. One just isn’t homophobic. Y’all can love your sex scenes, I don’t care but we’re not going to pretend Seungho is a good person. He’s narcissistic and a Satyriasis, don’t forget he dragged him there against his will.

I would be thankful lol. You forget that there are people out there who like these kind of concepts, and that's why me and many people are reading this webtoon.

Maybe because I may be older than you all, I can’t get behind noncensual concepts. I keep reading for the art but it just surprised me how many people see nothing wrong with this scenario. Well as long as you guys know this is terrible irl (met someone who didn’t think so) then by all means enjoy.

well, i'm 26... anyways, let's enjoy the webtoon!

R u serious with that last part? What a way to resolve things lol *note the sarcasm*

I think I'd have understood your comment under any other manga, but omegaverse is a whole different thing. I'm not sure if you've read straight alpha romances (there are lots of light novels about that), but they're every bit as problematic as this stuff, with the alpha usually treating their mate as crap.

I’m sorry that you have to feel that way. I believe what you are searching for is not Yaoi BUT shonen-ai. There is a difference between these two genres. Yaoi is much more sexualized and sometimes, full blown pornography. Shonen Ai is much more realistic. Not all Fujoshi are like that, trust me. It comes with age. Older people know better than to fetishize it.

I feel like it’s not just Yaoi that fetishizes romance. Sometimes, when I read Shoujo romance, it’s also fetishizing straight hetero relationships with all the classic Japanese tropes, painting unrealistic standards on both men and women. So really, I think it’s more of their culture where fetishizing is allowed because their real culture is much more stressful than we see and they need to dream a little. I’m sorry that you feel bad about it, but I for one, do not mind these types of genres existing because I know what their real purpose is and it’s not harmful. What’s harmful is what the people do with it, not the genre itself.

I can understand where you're at because I felt the same at one point. As a gay guy myself I initially took offense at the forced sex to love scenario, until I opened myself up and really looked at the culture it stemmed from. It's sometimes very repressed and must be stressful as all hell to meet some of the expectations they're hit with. We both know that sex between two men is nothing like its portrayed in Yaoi, it's not as easy as spit on two fingers and let the moans begin. What I have discovered is that Yaoi is a great place for hot and heavy sex scenes, unrealistic as some may be, but stimulating none the less. Some Yaoi is very shocking and dark, but it gets what it's supposed to, views and sales. I'm sure you're right that there may be some skewed views of gay sex because of some stories, but as these girls mature into their own sexual selves they'll realize art vs reality. I really urge you not to give up on Yaoi, but make use of it "our" way as an outlet and some heavy "fapping" material. I also love Shonen Ai, you can't beat it for the love stories, it's like discovering a world that's written just for our fantasies, even though it's originally intended for younger girls, lol. Love to ya brother.

This. All of this. Saying the genre is harmful and turns people into rapists is like saying violent video games turn people into murderers. And I agree. I think this individual would definitely prefer shounen-ai. Not everyone can handle yaoi and there's no shame in that. There are some controversial topics mixed in with the graphic sex, so it can be intense to read at times.

Ok the thing is while video games don't make murders but it can make you be more violent then the rest of the population. And guess what there are tons of research proving such. When I was to Young, to really understand, I was the same I wasn't full on hitting people like others can get but I would slightly get more violent like pushing and such. With rape there are soooo many ignorant people in this world that will read this and say oh wow I guess it's ok to do this. ( I guess it not everyone but for the fee many pay) Like there are sex robots that the public had to fight cause some rich men wanted a rape feature cause I guess the clenching and screams is greay. We are currently dealing with a society that is victim blaming rape victims and letting off rapists Scot free from prision which is why US entertainment is trying to minimize rape EVEN in porn and believe me I have checked. Just like you won't see racism in a movie ( unless that's the point in showing minority discrimination) cause some idiots will be more likely to do it. So I get it some people might like rape but there really is no point in putting it in entertainment and especially not in every single story like Japan does. At this point I just ignore it caise it's Japan and while the US is moving on I can see that they might not but don't tell others what they can or can't read or tell some that is affected but the unrealistic portrait of his sexuality and tell him to ignore it. While the rest of us just ignore it he has a point that there is really no point in having rape.

I am soooo sorry you had to go through this. I am and don't want to justify anything but Japan is a bit behind in entertainment. You are less likely to see rape in us entertainment ( unless the point is to show the effects of it like 13 reasons why) like even porn has less of it and it's also some what annoying to see how some women will get mad over a story portraying a women getting rape but say men getting rapped is hot. I just it just cause they enjoy the sex regardless. Personally from what I have seen yaoi is made for women and is by women that put into there sexual fantasy. I am sorry that my gender isn't even trying to put effort into making some stories more realistic. And I agree that rape has no point in a story and it's annoying to see how it's romanticized. Like most of the yaoi on here would have worked just as well without the rape they have but I guess for some it seems like the only way to get the plot moving ( which I don't get). If you like, I can look for some yaoi that I have that doesn't have rape I do have a few that are adorable ( like you just remove the rape and no cringe happens but I guess others still enjoy it untill it's there gender) but I dought that I have many or any in that matter that are realistic but don't let others shy you away from yaoi if you don't want to.

Maybe the bigger problem here is you people not being able to tell the difference between fiction and reality?
People see horror movies it's not like we wanna be in that escenario?

Stop policing what people like, and start learning that reality =/= fiction

Ok so your saying that just cause it's omegaverse it needs rape? I have read a few omegelaverses that don't have rape and they aren't lacking in anything. Like really alphas HAVE to treat there mate like crap? Since when was that part of the gender descriptions.

Tbh I agree. Things like art and literature have always been in the spotlight for being “inappropriate” or “unethical” but you can’t stop people from conveying what they want. There’s a reason authors sometimes use rape in their stories. At times, it’s depicted in a really realistic way where the victim does realize he/she has been raped and that it is unacceptable. However, there are also stories that depict rape carelessly and I would like to bring into attention that it’s because the INTENTION is different.

They’re not sexualizing rape. Everyone KNOWS no one wants to be treated in real life the same way. You can take all the fujoshi and if they’re treated like the uke in Yaoi manga hell no, not a single one of them would accept it as “okay”. People aren’t that dumb. So this rape business is literally just there as a sex scene for the sake of getting people aroused, NOT to promote it that it’s ok. It’s not a book’s job to teach people rape is wrong. That’s your parent’s jobs. You don’t see all kids reading these things and becoming rapists. Ok sure, it could be contributing to increasing rape rates but as I said, that sure as hell isn't the book’s responsibility. It’s whoever read it that didn’t know better.

And to the comment above, I don’t think Japan is behind in entertainment or anything. Just like how foreigners get so confused when Japanese comedians slap a girl on the head in their comedy routine, it’s a CULTURAL DIFFERENCE. Not everything HAS to be the way the US is. Each country grew differently and have different mind sets and situations that led to this stuff being OKAY in the present. It’s not bad for them to make this stuff. I don’t see any Japanese news stating Yaoi is harmful to their society. This is coming from a country that sells sex toys and crap in the open. It’s the normal there. And their people aren’t under-developed.

Well said, I think I love you.

Most yaoi containing rape are tagged with "rape". If you don't like rape, pay more attention to the tags.

Just because a few people are too dumb/mental to differentiate between fiction and reality, doesn't mean that the rest of us is the same.

Also, humans kill and torture each other since humans exist. So the problem is not some inappropriate stories or video games, humans themselves are the problem.

When did I ever say it turns people into rapists? By all means defend your favorite genre but don’t put words in my mouth.

I know the difference, it’s the fact I’m not going to sit back and giggle about real world issues.

It’s literally fujoshis saying they wish they’d have boyfriends like that- when the boyfriend is a rapist. You never seen people romanticize Killing Stalking? I was a rape victim and the fact I can’t express my dislike for it in stories without someone telling me I’m basically wrong for judging it, is sad.

I don’t have an issue with reading sex scenes, that’s why I read sometimes. I just can’t grasp why rape is the main point and heavily brushed over. I rarely read a story when someone is raped by the protagonist and left them alone healthy- it’s usually rape to love scenarios.

A cartoon getting raped is not real.

Get on ver your high horse, there's a million ways you can help make conscience about irl issues but a manga porn site is not one of them.
But, I get it, actually doing and working to change the world is harder than just coming here and looking down on people for their kinks. Easy way to feel superior.

https://antifujoshi.tumblr.com/post/156130698640/anakinsbugs-captain-liddy-okay-like

Okay- here. I’m not superior for saying rape is bad, most fujoshis are young and impressionable. Read that.

https://antifujoshi.tumblr.com/post/156130698640/anakinsbugs-captain-liddy-okay-like

Anyone in this thread, read this. You probably won’t but this is a opinion based from a gay guy.

Also, what exactly could I do? Beat up every rapist? Most rapists are trusted friends by statistics so I should go fight everyone? If rape is your kink— that says enough about you dear.

Rape is not my kink, thx for assuming that makes you look great, but I'm not gonna judge anyone based on what fantasies they have. Cause sexual fantasies are a lot more complex than 'I like reading rape therefore I wanna get raped/rape someone'

Again, by that logic just get away from anyone that watches horror movies cause any of them might be a killer!!

Also, idk but coming here and judging people based on what they like to read is also not helping anyone, so, stop it too. And find something more productive to do with your time that might actually change the world
What? That's for you to research since you're SOOOOO concerned. But yes. I know, that requires you to actually work and put effort.

No, I’m not going to. You came on MY comment to have an opposing opinion when you KNEW I didn’t agree with you. I don’t like rape stories, now what? Nothing. I’ll continue not liking it and the others will continue to like it, it’s life but I’m not going to stop my opinion because it hurts feelings.

You linked the heavily fetishized rape in yaoi to the inappropriate behavior you've seen at cons, correct? The way you wrote your comment, reads like you blame this inappropriateness on the heavy emphasis on rape in yaoi. So let me rephrase my response: Saying that fujoshis sexually assault people at cons because rape is fetishized in yaoi, is like saying gamers become murderers because they play first person shooters all day. Better?

@Leta Cent. I disagree, but that's because I disagree with this push for censorship. We want to pick and choose what we show in the entertainment industry, but where is the line and who decides it? I mean, if we're going down this road, you could say showing sex at all is unnecessary in literature and media. And I'm sure you can find "a ton of studies" to show that over exposure to sexual content leads to an increase in deviant behaviour. Especially when have young kids reading manga on a free access site like this... Perhaps there's also "a ton of research" that supports the rise in STDs and teen pregnancies, and the easy access to sexuallly graphic content. In that respect, perhaps we should get rid of things like yaoi and smut all together... Again, where is the line and who draws it?

Also, where is the data that proves your conjectures? Last I checked, there is no recognized study or statistical data that conclusively supports a connection between rape in literature and entertainment, and the creation of more rapists. Your opinion/perception, though poignant and valid, does not constitute fact. Also, what statistical data or valid studies do you have that support the claim "violent video games make people more violent?" I'm interested to see them, because simply stating, "there is tons of research proving such" doesn't prove it. There might be tons of research, but are they valid studies? What agencies conducted these studies? How many test subjects did they use? How long were these studies done for; and how many studies have been done since to validate those findings? I don't work in the vague, nor do I put stock in generic statements like, "tons of research." I believe none of what I hear and half of I see. And where did you read that the U.S. entertainement industry is minimizing rape, even in porn? That's an article I would love to read.

I came cause your whole comment was a mess, it wasn't 'I don't like rape'
your comment was some nonsense 'gay mangas with rape damage irl gay relationnships I'm so woke, fujos repent for your sins!' like how even....?
I wanna believe you're trolling tbh.

I just made one comment, cause I disagree, you started trying to make people that like rape appear as bad, people responded, now you're without arguments so you're just spouting whatever you can, fair. No one talked feelings, your main comment was a whole mess of nonsense. And you kept adding more nonsense to it.

Then I just kept on responding cause you kept adding words to my posts and I don't take that.

I honestly said everything I wanted on first post.

So me being a M with a rape kink is enough information to judge me?

Yes, it's kinda annoying how fujoshi fetishize gays. And I also dislike it when rape is romanticised.
But you know, you shouldn't care that much about some "fapping material".
In porn or hentai nobody cares about the missing plot.

Men also fetishize lesbians.
I hate it how some men are thinking like "Homosexuality is alright as long as it's two hot girls playing with each other"

If you care about all shit happening in the world, you would only suffer.
Enjoy the good things. Change the changeable bad things. And ignore the unchangeable bad things.

You linked heavily fetishized rape in yaoi to the inappropriateness you've seen at cons, correct? So based on your words, you blame the heavy emphasis of rape in yaoi for the inappropriateness you've seen cons. So let me rephrase my response: Saying fujoshis sexually assault people at cons because of rape in yaoi, is like saying gamers become murderers because they play first person shooters all day. Better?

I think those studies are kinda dumb.
Like video games are responsible for people being aggressive.
Like humans have lived peacefully until the invention of video games. LOL.

Lol, I'm of the same line of thought, but I can see the value in conducting studies like that. It's better than taking an opinion and trying to make it fact. Like, the original poster said that fujoshis can't tell reality from fiction. Why? Because they saw some cosplayers sexually assault someone at a con. So now a handful of people exhibiting that behavior, translates to all fujoshis not being able to tell reality from fiction. And just for added effect, let's blame it all on rape in yaoi... *eye roll* That's one helluva leap without any substantiating data lol.

@Leta Cent: No, that's not what I said. It's just that rape as a trope happens to be used more often in omegaverse than in other aspects of BL. And the fact that not all omegaverses are like that is fine and I personally find it more than decent, but that's not how the AU was originally intended. It literally is all about the alpha having control.

I literally replied to this before- anyway I will continue not to like rape scenarios and you or whoever else will continue to so what exactly are you getting from this? You came to my comment with a different opinion to something that wasn’t a question. A hit dog will holler, you’re a little too angry for this to not be your fantasy. Rape isn’t romantic nor thrilling, it’s painful and damaging. Trust me- a asshole doesn’t selflubricate like it does it manga so you fucking rip and blood isn’t lube- it dries and crusts. So no, I can’t understand why someone would enjoy this but to each their on. I don’t like it because I’ve experienced it but it’s not affecting your life that I don’t like it so why are you going so hard?