Alright. This novel is not new. Just a few years old. I think it was released in 21 or 22. Anyways, this novel has been revised now. Initially this novel had some aspects which were severely protested by the korean readers such as the resemblance to nth room case and bestiality. The new versions on ridi and bomtoon has replaced the bestiality (dog) with a sex machine so you might not see the dog sex scene in the webtoon. Though it did happen in the first version. I have read it myself. There is no love till the end. The relationship is of kind of mutual dependence where ML and MC are broken because of each other but can’t live without each other as well. ML due to his obsession of revenge and MC due to his trauma. The ML doesn’t regret anything. Well atleast in the first version he doesn’t. He has broken MC but the satisfaction of that is lukewarm. At the end of novel, it is like ML has now taken over MC and now will keep him with him as a toy/plaything or a pet. It’s just like you have something useless but can’t throw it away for whatever reason so you keep it with yourself stored at home.
All of this is happening because Jiwook used to bully and sexually assault the ML in middle school. Jiwook was initially good with ML AND he was attracted to ML as well. However due to the fear of homosexuality and afraid of peer pressure, he started bullying and sexually assaulting ML after ML confessed to liking him or being gay.
The abuse involved sexually assaulting ML with his friends, like forcing him for blow jobs, rape etc. the last abuse ML suffered was when Jiwook added a bunch of vibrators in his ass and bound him and left him in the washroom near library. One guy was on duty of keeping an eye on him but Jiwook never came back. The ML was super scared and was rescued by the security guard at night. That was day ML’s mom came to know about the abuse ML suffered because he hadn’t been to home that day due to being locked in the washroom. Also, from that day MC stopped paying attention to ML just on a whim, he left him in washroom and just decided that he should now study.
ML’s sexual pics were being circulated around by Jiwook so ML’s mom also happened to see them. From then she hated the lipstick and color red I think (it’s been long since I read it) because in the pic ML had some writings written on him with red lipstick. ML’s mom mental health deteriorated and got admitted to hospital.
ML was initially a very sweet boy buy due to the abuse and bullying he suffered, he became twisted and wanted to take revenge on Jiwook. Then when Jiwook lost his memories of the ML, the ML became more deranged because according to him, only he was suffering and stuck in the past which everyone eventually forgot and moved on from.
Now onto the abuse Jiwook suffers, there is gangbang on two occasions I guess. Both planned by ML. First is similar to nth room case, where ML shares Jiwook’s sexual pics to different people who wants to bang him and has grudge against him. The men will beat him brutally, rape him brutally, and even try to drown him in water basin in pretext of washing his mouth since MC vomited after being punched badly. The rape is really bad. When the men are done, they will take pics and send then to ML. The ML’s thoughts were that he will have to clean up the mess they left on MC and that he didn’t think they will go so hard on MC. No remorse though. Just a apathetic sorry to MC because he expected them to rape MC but not so hard.
The second gangrape is done extremely brutally which is actually allowed by ML. ML even wants it to be done brutally to punish MC. When MC is losing his mind due to abuse in the gangrape, ML is like why are you losing your mind already? The gangrape involves beating, using baseball bat (I think) to fuck him, using urethra plug to force him to ejaculate him again again with pain, urinating in his mouth and asshole, it’s extremely disturbing.
MC will keep asking what he did that ML is doing this to him but ML will not tell until the last gangrape. After the last gangrape, MC will awake in hotel and regain his memories. He will apologize to the ML. Now he is broken and damaged beyond repair. He is so afraid to even go outside without ML because he thinks those men will come again and rape him. Thus he wants to stay with ML . Stockholm syndrome is beginning and will fully kick in the side stories.
The dog bestiality scene is in side story 2 but it has already been changed to a sex machine after the protest.
My pet peeve with this novel is that if it’s marketed as a revenge story and something that will depict the pain sexually abused people feel then it does a pretty shitty job at that. ML is shown to have become completely psychopathic. Given he was abused, given he wasn’t given justice, given his abusers were free but the time he raped and allowed other people to become sexual abusers just like him, he no longer comes in the category of victim.
An eye for an eye, if we go with it then how can you guage the emotional suffering someone has suffered. MC was so brutally abused, broken and even stripped of his humanity with the bestiality scene that do you really think they are on equal foot now? What about the people who gangraped MC? Aren’t those sexual abusers? Is there any difference left between MC and ML. Does degrading someone so much equals to the suffering the ML suffered? Kill Jiwook, beat him up but this whatever the writer wrote nowhere justifies anything. The name “walk in my shoes” is fucked up joke.
This is a fetishized work, because in the end the focus is not on empathy or regret but rather sexual abuse, the degradation and ultimately whatever the author could jam to make it disgusting. Even the thoughts, the dialogues, they are super apathetic. There was a brilliant way to go about this novel if it really focused on the theme of revenge. There are many dark novels/works in the world but this doesn’t even come close to it. It is disgusting porn in disguise of novel.
The people criticizing others who are leaving bad reviews, do you guys even know what the review section is for? It literally asks people to give their thoughts about the work so other audience can know what people thought of this work. If someone wants to say it’s bad or good, they are literally given a section that “here tell people how you felt about it”. That’s the review section. Anything that comes on internet as a means of entertainment or media for people, people do have a right to give their opinion about it. What's so fucking difficult about it? Author and artist can write and draw disgusting shit like this but people can’t even openly give their review? The fuck kind of mentality is that? If you enjoy it then comment that you enjoyed it and be on your way. Stop dictating others to not leave bad review or shut their mouths.
There is no love. The feeling of affection or love is something you shouldn’t expect in this story. ML used to like MC in middle but after the abuse, he has the obsession with MC for revenge. There might be shadows of what could have been between them if MC hadn’t abused ML but that is just something that’s long and forgotten now. The idea of love and affection with MC is not possible for ML. After his revenge is done, he spent so many years obsessing over MC that he also can’t feel right without him. He wants to see the broken MC and then keeps him just like an object you can’t throw away. He wants to stay together with MC but not as lovers but as someone who wants to make the other suffer and broken just like him.
After the repeated attempts of self harm by MC in side stories, ML even says that he will let go MC not due to remorse but because he is aware of how the MC affects him and his obsession so he doesn’t want to fret unnecessarily on MC and disrupt his own peaceful life.
First of all, thank you so much for taking the time and explaining everything so well. You're an absolute saint
I've read about 11 chapters of the novel which is what's currently available and now that I know how this story is gonna go forward and that it will just get worse, I can brace myself for the disgust and horror that will follow. Like you said this is fetishised gore porn, I don't know why this even deserves a manhwa adaptation since there is nothing but torture with 0 closure or character development :/ it's like that No Reason manhwa, violence and sex for the shock value
I mean I appreciate the summary and all, but you do know this is an illegal site? The creator didn’t ever solicit people’s opinions here lol. I guess that isn’t stopping people from reading or leaving their takes anyways, but I don’t believe these opinions hold any weight when the bulk of these people just expect to be spoonfed idyllic porn (for free) and start complaining when the pirated manhwa they’re reading on the pirating site is fucked up. If they wanted to appear as anything other than performative then they’d actually fucking buy stories that don’t contain all this torture and violence to push the industry towards a better place. But nobody does because they’re just looking for a quick nut. Additionally, your comment about how the story markets itself as some kind of cathartic release for victims is wrong. The author herself has said this is a fucked up story with as many of her kinks shoved in as possible. You and many others keep acting like this story is dressing itself as something it’s not when Reverse Thinking is actually rather straightforward. People were not “tricked”. And they weren’t disgusted enough to stop reading after all the fetishized rape. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the way people act like they’re doing something noble for victims of real life sexual violence by straight up lying about this work is asinine. There is no evidence that this story was based on the nth room crimes. And frankly, it’s sick that so many people insinuate such. What? So every manhwa that contains sexual violence is a mirror to a real life sexual crime? Insane.
Oh my gosh I cant thank you enough for explaining it thoroughly, ive seen a lot of comments that makes me want to drop it and this just made me want to really drop it for real.. but honestly speaking im still hoping they will somehow change the story where there will be love and a happy ending.. or not, let’s find out
It is frightening how people can’t come to terms with how the world works.
Alright, first point: nth room case. It is not based on that. It resembles the nth room case. The blackmailing. The spreading of pics and videos to gather more people to assualt the victim. The time this novel got published is close to the time period this whole case came to light. Now you need to understand that human mind is very complex. It will mold into a shape whatever you feed it. Not everyone has the mental capacity to defer between right and wrong. When acts like these are fetishized in novels, there is probability that someone would want to reenact them. Curiosity leads to awful circumstances sometimes.
Second point: illegal site. When I publish something on internet, I know that internet is like a vortex where things can spread wide. So if I’m a writer of such disgusting shit, I know that this will get to places I don’t even know about. That’s how internet works. No one is oblivious of novels market and how the illegal sites operate if they are into this profession. The author and artist is being called upon that even though they know there might be backlash, they published it. They know it could corrupt mind, they still went ahead. They have the nerve to handle that so what’s your problem if people are coming forward and saying that it is shit?
What’s the childish type of logic is this that illegal sites can’t have reviews from people? Mangago has enabled it, right? Not your property, right? We are allowed to comment, right? Then let us fucking do it! If you like the work, enjoy it or not, whatever then good for you! Stop dictating this bullshit to me.
Third point: People are not tricked, the fuck. Many people don’t exactly do a background check on what the author fucking posts in their social media or whatever. People scroll stories. They have different tastes, sees a story in dark genre and then intrigued decides to read it. Turns out it is shitty. They leave a review how they disliked it and then move on with their life. But the internet police like you comes after their asses as how dare you use the review section for a review! Does it even make sense?
It’s not about moral depravity or a superior sense of justice for sexual abuse victims! It’s human decency to know that this work is shit, reviewing it as such and moving on with my life!
Okay, I'll play ball. Your first point where people see fucked up shit and want to reenact it? You can make that argument for literally anything. If I play a game of Overwatch and teabag my opponent, is that going to make the greasy teenagers on my team think that they should be allowed to drop sack on people in real life? NO, because it's not real. And this case is even less likely to distort the minds of the masses because it's PORN. It's marketed to people as porn. Unfortunately mangago and other pirating sites make it accessible to anyone, which I think is a fairer case for disturbing material causing people distress or even putting bad thoughts in younger people's heads. But that doesn't fall onto the author. That's just "how the internet works" according to you, seeing that piracy is so fucking rampant. If you're going to give me that drivel about how "complex" the human mind is, you should be able to recognize that some people have taboo kinks and want to freely explore fucked up shit in fiction in a safe environment where nobody is actually getting hurt. Doesn't mean they're trying to spread some kind of rape fiend agenda into the real world. Are you and I going to get compulsive thoughts about rape and kidnapping because we read this novel? Probably not!
I'm gonna tackle your second and third points together. For your second point, yeah. I guess that is how the internet works. But these people who are complaining and ragging on and on even though this story has been out for so long (like you said) and the manhwa is at 8 chapters are coming off as purely performative. The illustrator doesn't use social media and the author hasn't really been online for a while except recently to promote the manhwa, so who do they think they're complaining to? Their complaints are hardly ever grounded in a desire to see the manhwa industry move past stereotypical rape plots and promote authors who write better stories. They only see the industry as a content mill where they can constantly feed from and once they get the taste of something yucky in their mouths, they start going on a moral tirade to justify them reading this story in the first place. The fact of the matter is, these people made the conscious decision to read this story (for free) and probably feel some level of guilt for enjoying it or wanting to see more, so they seek validation from people in the comments of this illegal site so that they can feel morally good again. As for your third point, you're just trying to delegitimize my comment by making up stuff I didn't even say. I've never said people aren't allowed to write comments or reviews. In fact, I see plenty of negative reviews for this story (and others like it) that I completely agree with. I'm not talking about those reviews because the people who left those did exactly what you said: they read and moved on with their lives. I'm talking about the belligerent losers on these sites that have been shitting their pants since November over how wrong this story is and REFUSE to move on. This story has been incredibly straightforward with what it's supposed to be: violent torture porn. If it's really about human decency and "putting it down and moving on with your life" then put your money where your mouth is. You've been here since December trying to convince people that this story is just oh, so morally wrong. But at the end of the day, people like what they're going to like. You can criticize it all you want, but getting pressed when people want to debate that criticism does very little for your argument. Thank you for your time.
Oh geez. Your comment literally repeats the same point. Just chill down and open your brain. Just go and read some psychological articles on how certain media and its consumption affects the brain. There are literal cases of violence due to such media.
The taboo kink: I’m into dark genre. Non zero sum is one of my fav novel not bcz of violence but because of psychological novel done right.
I still don’t understand you boomers mind that if People saying it’s shit, how does that affect you or other people? If you enjoy it, good for you. I enjoy alot of kinky shit myself but when I don’t, I’m gonna say I dislike it. When people create disgusting shit like this, I wanna leave a review.
The thing about since december: People have confusion about bestiality so I fixed that for them. Never in my comment I’m bashing anyone that they should be hanged for liking this shit. I’m criticizing the novel itself in my own review.
Damn you all so soft that a review fucking rages your mind but not this shit. You have your priorities set, good for you.
By the way, I still don’t get how people rating and reviewing a manhwa, novel or any media is affecting you unless it’s yours? Moreover when you write shit like this, consider the impact it will leave on everyone and the Fun fact: everyone’s mind works different. That’s why many people call their works their legacy with how it will be perceived by the world or impact the world.
Annnnnd the most basic thing, piracy. Buddy it’s been long in the world before internet. Cmon stop playing internet police and do something fun. I was looking forward to your comment but you sound the same to me as the ones you accuse of being overly zealous about bashing this novel. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Okay, I think I'm going to just drop the niceties since you've resorted to basic name-calling instead of producing a literate argument. Anyone and everyone knows that media has an effect on the brain. I want you to read what I'm typing and honest to god say that you believe that this manhwa is going to promote droves of sexual degeneracy. News fucking flash, following your own argument about media consumption, you should be in the fucking comments of Non Zero Sum complaining about the exact same themes. People in real life exploit the impoverished like what happens in that story. Are you over there making the same brainrotted arguments about how it's encouraging readers to sexually exploit the poor??? I cannot believe you have the audacity to respond to my comment insinuating that NZS is ANY different from this story at all. Both have psychological elements but are ultimately vessels for fucked up porn. I think the fact that both works have been picked up by Cupid Scans, a group that regularly translates noncon stories should be a big indicator that they're on the same level. So one rape fantasy porn is okay but another one isn't? WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN AT, COME BACK TO REALITY. COME BACK TO US. If even an iota of what you said was true, you would hold NZS to the exact same standards. But no, it gets a pass because the 'writing is better'? So your logic implies that a story that contains traumatizing, shocking material in explicit detail is ok as long as you personally vibe with it. You're so married to your own delusions of moral superiority that you can't even register what I'm trying to say. WHEN did I say you implied people should be hung for reading torture porn yaoi. WHEN did I ever try to play internet police when I was just objecting to the fallacies of demonizing taboo porn. You didn't have to show your entire ass like that but you did. Stop trying to act like a licensed psychologist. You're no different from any other porn-brained yaoi gooner on this site. You've proved that to me ten times over.
Lol moral superiority. You made me chuckle (⌒▽⌒)
Cmon how difficult it is to understand that people read dark books with psychological genre. Everyone perceives a book the way they like. I read it because I like this genre but the novel turned out to be trash. The story, characters, dialogues, some particular themes and development all fell flat so I disliked it. Left a review that it’s disgusting. All but fetishized porn. What’s the problem? Alright I’m a yaoi gooner as you said (made me chuckle again (≧∀≦)) but I like NZS and dislike this due to major differences in the writing, content and development. I’m not gonna go in detail on what fell flat but NZS is a work that can’t be compared to porn. It has development, emotions, relatable feelings. Some deep psychological shit. My preferences, buddy.
You are objecting to (um, as you say) demonizing taboo porn: hmm what’s wrong with that? Everyone has a drop line, right? Before internet If I bought a book, didn’t like it, I would’ve shared with my friends that it’s shit. But now there’s internet so I’m sharing to a wide audience that I don’t like it. How difficult is that to understand? Am I talking to a kid or teenager? I still don’t get how someone sharing their likes or dislikes about a particular media has anything to rage over ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
Am I a boomer or am I a kid? I can't even read all this seriously. It's perfectly normal to have a baseline you aren't willing to cross. But you have zero room to talk about moral implications or the damages taboo art can do. You just told me you like another equally demented series and can't even muster up the brain power to hold them to the same standards. You might be huffing that copium that NZS isn't porn but I assure you, 'porn' and 'compelling, deep psychological shit' are not mutually exclusive. You might like the story, but that doesn't relieve it from its porn status. At first I thought you were going on some kind of puritan tirade but now I can see that you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. Stop acting like you're some kind of cartoon villain, I can recognize crytyping when I see it.
But I’m quite enjoying this crytyping so keep indulging me (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ. I’m also confused if you are a kid or boomer since your vocabulary and understanding differs.
There are many dark novels in this world that shows brutality, rape, pornish settings but the criteria of how it could be perceived is through the writing, how people can relate to characters, how they enjoy and it satisfies their thirst for a good story and how the story itself develops, the settings, relations of side characters, plot. There’s so much. NZS has rated r themes but it shows how those actions destroy a relation, someone’s mind, the consequences, the dark reality of no reconciliation or redemption. It has flaws, no doubt. But it’s one of my fav novels since I can relate so much to the main character’s feelings.
I don’t like a psychopathic ML who’s so far gone to do bestiality on someone in pretext of his revenge and trauma and faces no repercussions. In the meantime endorsing other sexual abusers by giving them a victim to do the same thing even breaking bones during gangbang. Ugh, disgusting. If I wanted to read porn, I would read something better.
I don’t like it. I’m sorrrryyyyy ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
All that just to end up inadvertently admitting that it was subjective all along. I almost appreciate the honesty at the very end, at least. You coming out and saying that you just have a preference, thus rendering all that nonsense about "psychological implications" and "media consumption" you tried to feed me completely moot. If you think it's bad porn and that you can't relate to any of the characters just say that next time instead. No need to apologize to me for not liking it, like you said, I didn't write it! You should be sorry for hurting my eyes with all that drivel instead.
Aww your eyes (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
Do you think a novel that depicts the repercussions of your actions and develops the characters is the same as a novel that fetishizes gore porn is the same? You think a novel that shows what should not be done has the same psychological implication to a novel that literally shows to destroy a human being’s mind and strip him off humanity by sex with a dog with no repercussions and a bunch of sexual abusers satisfied in the end by their abuse? Do you really not know how to distinguish?
You seem like a kid so let’s take easy example of Voldemort. He tortured, killed, oppressed people but it’s a kid’s genre and okay to read because at the end he received what was coming for him due to his actions. Imagine if he did all that just for a trauma and then get off in the end free and happy. Hope you will get the point now.
All I'm seeing is an illiterate who wants to believe they're morally in the right for jerking their jimmy to Non Zero Sum, but thanks. Do you genuinely think NZS is going to punish all of the rapist characters?? Do you genuinely think the author is trying to show you what you 'shouldn't do'? With all the rape porn??? Please be for real. Haewon and Jiwook are just vessels for the authors to unload their kinks on. And a huge difference between a kids book meant for all ages and a porn comic/novel that's meant for adults who can recognize that these characters are fictional and know not to replicate their behavior IRL. The idea that because the bad guy in Reverse Thinking succeeds in his scheme, the story is not as intellectual or deep as the other torture porn story you like is laughably childish but what's crazy is that I know you're not a kid. These sad, imperious attempts to browbeat me for calling out the inconsistencies and bad faith arguments in your comments just SCREAM twitter hag.
Hag lol. So as per all your previous comments: I would be a porn brained yaoi goner twitter hag. I like the name! ヾ(☆▽☆)
Do you know that most psychological novels and dark genres include brutality theme AND many of other fiction genre novels also contain some hints of injustice acts going in the world? If you pick any such book, would it make it disqualified to be read due to its themes? No, it wouldn’t. I despise this novel because…..wait, wait, wait.
I have been repeating the same thing again and again and you still don’t get it. You are missing the most basic point. It’s not funnnnn. Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)
This will be my last reply to you since we are going in circles. I enjoyed our conversation though. (▰˘◡˘▰)
And I hate this novel. Ok, bye. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Yeah, yeah. I know you're only typing about how entertained you are because you can't validate your points otherwise. Fucked up fiction is still fiction. I'm grateful at least that you were able to be transparent about your hypocrisy in the very end. And one more thing, put the kaomojis away, I beg. Everyone knows you typed all those replies through tears before the rest home attendant came to take away your nook.
You're everywhere litterally policing this comment section, omgosh. I hope that at least you're being paid by these two, LOL, if not it'll be such a wasted time for you and for us who have to read you.
Blackie has written their review and got more than 110 likes, try to do the same and maybe after you'll get some credits.
What's so good about torture porn like this, or do you want us all to view beastiality so badly that you're willing to shut whoever dislike this shit, this much?
Why would you want so much for people to appreciate a degrading story like this, or you can't just accept any critics towards any work? Hum...? Then wouldn't it be easier for you to ask directly Mangago to simply STFU the whole comment section? If I were you, I'll do that it'll be so much more efficient.
To Blackie: Thank you so much for your honest review and avis.
Tbh I was invested in this story, even started to read the novel. It was interesting to read, for once, a bl depicting a revenge story so I was eager to know more about the motives and how things will progress etc... I think I could stomach a certain level of physical and mental violence for the sake of revenge, but when I've read through your spoilers and saw where this whole plot was heading, it's clear like day it's a Big NO for me.
There's no need to read further more to know this manhwas is just terrible porn in disguise of 'revenge' and that there's nothing behind that. Good for those who like that kind of fucked up stories, but I have better for my mind to eat and contemplate.
So you went to 'visit' m'y page and dislikes all my posts? Lol. What a fucking COWARD you can be! Dislike all you want, like I'd care.
You can't even have a fair fight with people without resorting to disguting means and racism. I guess this is happening when you don't have the arguments to defend your disguting opinion. Fucking Loser
Y’all, let it go. There’s no point fighting over fiction. I don’t like it, so I dropped it, but someone out there likes it because they can—and that’s fine. It’s imagination, and it cannot be restricted to only good things. Dark, messed-up things do come for certain readers, and there will always be this side in the minority to balance the fluff readers
Thanks for your honest review!! I rlly appreciate it. I usually love dark romance or toxic stuff but I think this might be a little too dark for me haha. It does feel a little fetish-y. I’m on the most recent chapter and I agree this isn’t a manwha with plot. It feels like gore porn and after reading your review, it might as well as be.
Have a great day and thank you again for the spoilers!
So people who have been saying that there is no sex scene with dog or sexual assault with dog, it is not in the main story. In the side story, the dog and MC is treated as husband and wife verbally in a particular scene. ML even put forcefully the dog’s dick in MC’s mouth for a bit (few seconds only because MC refuses). Then ML helps the dog to put the dick in MC’s hole and then the dog fucks MC. He then brings dildo and pushes the dog away and put it in MC’s hole but then the dog scampers around impatiently and wants to fuck again so ML let the dog do it. However MC faints at this point. Then ML showers the dog with affection.
I think it is in the side story 2. It does happen. Very clearly. So this story even if it is revenge, it’s just garbage. The gangrape of MC is not kinky but full on lynching type of gangrape. Breaking his bones with the way the men beat him up as well as the lacerations in his anus. Fucking him with bat or repeatedly pushing urethra blocker in his penis to make him reach orgasm forcefully and painfully. Peeing on his face and even peeing in his anus. The ML getting irritated at that point because it will be hard for him to clean up later.
It is something that didn’t need to be created. Whatever you say, whatever you wanna create, we don’t need such evil acts depicted in details in media form and then webtoon. It is disgusting. No love in the novel because ML spent 8 years chasing after MC to take revenge so he is mentally broken, and he broke the MC too mentally.
They stay together because MC can’t go anywhere now because other guys who raped him or want to take revenge on him on some disputes might again rape him. Plus he too afraid and mentally broken now. MC has started to think of ML as his saviour because only he could save or stop any rape or torture when ML was taking revenge on MC + some part of his guilt too for what he did to ML.
Everyone acted on ML’s orders so MC is now in stockholm syndrome. ML doesn’t have any affection for MC. He just has the fixation of 8 years, his trauma, so he also can’t let go of MC until fully satisfied. That’s the gist of the story till now.
In middle school, MC SA’d the ML. Made his life hell. Actually MC wanted to be close to ML since he liked him but at the same time terrified of this aspect of himself. Being gay and what people will say. He wasn’t ready to accept it. He and his friends SA’d ML and one day he just left him in the bathroom with 2 or 3 vibrators in his ass, tied up and never went back. The security guard at night came and rescued the ML. ML’s mom came to know about everything when he didn’t return home till late at night because he was tied up in bathroom. From then ML’s mom’s mental health deteriorated. She suffered because the videos of ML’s SA were circulating around by MC. It was horrific. For a middle school boy, this happening was traumatizing and heartbreaking.
holy shit now ik why he hates him sm i honestly have mixed feelings about him now but either way bringing a dog into this is not okay and nasty... plus they are both mentally ill, they need help. I can't believe someone would want to write this, very sad and tragic. the worst part is that MC and ML never get to move on from their pasts blergh. tysm for the spoilers
No shit. I understand why korean readers were so agains this novel as it does resemble the nth case room with all the circulation of photos of sexual assualt and rape and getting more people together to rape that victim then. Also, the dog sex scene was true. This is depraved. And it should be boycotted. It’s disgusting that the writer and then the artist worked on this.
People have been confused with contradicting spoilers about whether there is dos sex scene or not. Will they fall in love or not. I am all for psychological books and revenge plots but this was not it. It just shows that ML and MC has lost their mind and fallen into depravity. I don’t understand why people don’t write about redemption, or forgiveness.
Hell if you wanna write about revenge and trauma of sexual assualt victims, atleast don’t turn it into a torture porn plot with crap writing.
I will write a detailed spoiler once more to get more people to know in advance what is waiting for them if they wanna read this story. I don’t know why but I hate it with a passion. I don’t actually hate the characters. MC was bad in the start but he suffered. ML did depraved things but he was mentally broken too due to his suffering. He is caught up in the past which everyone has moved on from and his perpetrator even forgot his existence. It’s heartbreaking what they turned into.
Shit I feel disgusted but at the same time I want to read the novel but I after hearing about the dog. I just can't bring myself to read it. First it was the horse in bad life but at least it didn't actually happen fully but this shit is insane. The bottom is trash and the top shouldn't have gone through that but at the same time I find myself feeling bad for the bottom because like just kill him bro after the dog thing just kill him or he should just kill himself. I know I wouldn't be able to last at all. I would have a knife up my throat immediately.
This work is sickening. Same for Bad life.
I'd kill myself too if I was subjected to... that. Plus poor animals that are trained to this know nothing. What's the point in this, are we in some f*cking zoophile community?
When there's so much barbarism, revenge lose its purpose and simply become another evil.
If the premise remains but the revenge plan differs and was intelligent, with that nice art it'd be genial. But it's impossible for these authors and artists to do that apparently
The art is literally so beautiful but it's wasted on a mess up story like this. I can't imagine ever drawing such explicit thing. It would literally ruin my mental health if I were to be drawing up those scenes especially the beastiality scene I would literally throw up or just straight up quit the whole thing. I wish I can understand what the author was thinking when they decide to put a dog in the mix. Mess up bitch
OMG we share the same thoughts on this. Plus I'm an author, artist myself so I totally understand what you mean.
The more aggraving effect is on the artist's side since they illustrates the whole shit. But seeing it's THAT artist... I'm pretty sure they're fine, or already f*cked up in their head. I don't see otherwise how they can draw and bring into life such vile acts.
I'd like to know why they'd add animals into this mess too, because the bottom was already beyond broken. Either they don't take the bestiality seriously or they have weird 'kinks' just to not name it
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/17780418/
But people say it is false translation of the original story, but the Manhwa will tell
There have been two versions. The story consists of two parts: main story and side stories. The original story had the dog sex scene in side story 2 but the revised version had changed it to a sex machine. It is said that bomtoon asked it to be changed due to the protest against it.
This does happen but that’s why the confusion is going on aming the readers of different versions.
Omg it’s just sick that someone wants to write about animals and humans doing something sexual…. I’m against it and would never enjoy reading something so disturbing. I can almost not read stories where the people are animals but human and one is human even tho it’s fiction, but an actual animal that is not human is just plain disgusting okay thank you for telling me. I’m glad they changed it tho since it should not be written at all or be shown in a comic !
It’s been a long time since I was in a relationship so I just wanna ask, do normal people also have sex the same number of times as shown in the bl webtoons? Like whether angry, sad, happy, excited or tired, just have sex?
I think it really really depends! As a guy that has been in mlm relationships, high sex drive is real and not necessarily a bad thing if both (or more) parties are into it and can keep up. And while it’s not an all-gay-guys thing, it’s kinda common to fuck or want to when high intensity emotions arise. I know guys that go on grindr meetups on the daily and I’ve been with men that want it everyday.
This is a review from someone who read this novel and had to desperately get myself out of the disgusting feelings this made me feel for weeks.
This novel is not happy ending. This even has detailed rape and torture scenes, heartless characters, cruelty and don’t expect any love.
The gist of the story is that there is no major villain. Just the three characters, the MC and two male leads whose relationship, revenge and actions takes up most of the novel.
MC is a noble who pretended to abandon the ML (khalid) to save him when they were kids. ML was hurt because his whole world was MC. The only light in his miserable life. However later in adulthood, the MC’s family was killed by the second ML (Peltian) who disposed of the crown prince and became emperor. The MC’s family was supporting the crown prince, that’s why they were killed. However MC was secretly helping the emperor and was in an idea that the emperor knows it’s him who helped him defeat the crown prince. So when his family was killed he was shocked and thought that he was abandoned by the emperor.
Basically the guy who was delivering MC’s messages of to the emperor didn’t tell the emperor that they were from MC rather he prentended that it was himself who helped emperor to get the benefits, this way he betrayed the MC and got all the benefits of emperor who thought that Belthias Deron was the one who helped him.
Now MC was captured and khalid asked the emperor to give MC to him as a slave so he can take revenge. Khalid and emperor are deeply bonded as brothers so emperor granted him this request.
Now MC thinks he has to repay khalid for the hurt he caused him while abandoning him. That’s why he doesn’t commit suicide and becomes a slave willingly so that khalid can let go of his resentment and be completely happy.
Khalid badly abuses MC (Knox) physically and sexually.
He and emperor treats him like an object less than a human being. The sex scenes are horrible with slapping him to keep him awake, fucking him in turns for the whole night, not letting him rest, teaching him to suck their dick first thing in the morning as slave. It’s horrible letting him ride a wooden horse, use dildos on him and double penetrating him, keeping him tied to bed and fucking him for days even though he begs not to. Khalid even makes a bet with emperor to see if MC is loyal to him alone and knows who owns him if he doesn’t cum while someone other than Khalid fucks him. Emperor fucks him and MC cums so in anger khalid takes off his belt and hit his perineum and hole with it several times while asking MC to keep his hole open with his own fingers. It’s horrible through and through.
Once MC slaps the belthias guy who betrayed MC and Khalid first slaps him twice in front of that guy for punishment and then further locks MC in a dark room for a week. MC completely loses his mind from that time on and submits his self to slavery.
Khalid also whips him so bad and then denies him treatment and that is the last point where MC commits suicide because he thinks he has paid back everything because when khalid was abandoned in the past he was also whipped. It wasn’t MC who whipped him but the one whipping MC was khalid.
MC and Khalid both used to love each other in their childhood before the abandonment.
The dialogues, the thoughts they are so degrading for MC by both emperor and khalid that both are not redeemable at all.
The major issue I have with this novel is that the author’s focus is highly on the torture and extensive sex scenes with degradation. However you won’t get much intake on the feelings or thoughts.
When the abuse was happening, there would be one or two line to specify the feelings of either the MC or the ML.
I think it’s very lacking and makes you unable to connect with the characters because we can’t get a clear feeling of what they are feeling other than horrible abuse and resentment.
As comaprison, the Non zero sum highly focuses on the feelings of the MC so we can connect on a much more deeper level with his suffering. We even get the insight of ML and understand that he is psycho. Just a mental patient. We see how his though process works.
In this novel, Khalid and emperor are abusing MC so badly but if MC is sitting alone and gazing at space absent mindedly or is washing the floors of Khalid’s mansion then Khalid will act like he loves MC and cares so much about him and can’t bear to see him like that. It’s just crazily inconsistent.
Another inconsistency is the MC. He wanted khalid to vent out his resentment. He didn’t know khalid will abuse him like this but he was very strong. He was very able at swordsmanship. He didn’t commit suicide to let khalid blow his resentment and become happy.
After the first night where khalid shared MC with emperor, MC could commit suicide but he on the next day was helping khalid in handling state affairs. He even taught khalid how to dance. It is strange that he appears completely fine by the abuse so far and even cares for khalid? We don’t get much insight to his mental health by hsi thoughts during this time so it’s very hard to connect if he has resentment building for khalid due to all this abuse or not.
Why I’m saying it is inconsistent is because of what happens AFTER MC thinks he has paid back everything and commits suicide.
So basically after MC is whipped, he is in his room where he was unconcious. He wakes up goes out the estate, sees the carriage of belthias and rode it. He talks to belthias and mentions how he betrayed him etc etc. All of his converstaion is being listened by Khalid and emperor through a magic stone that is given to him by khalid and which is like a communication device controlled by Khalid. That’s how they come to know that MC is innocent. MC kills belthias and goes to his home. There he jumps off a window and commits suicide.
Now for the inconsistencies. Khalid hates MC because he abandoned him in childhood. But suddenly he is devastated and acts like he can’t live without MC when MC commits suicide and it comes to light that he was innocent. Khalid’s resentment wasn’t because MC helped crown prince, it was because of abandonment. So even if it comes to light that MC is innocent, how he turned 180 degree?
Then the argue that it’s because MC committed suicide but khalid has been abusing him cruelly for days and days. He whipped him so bad and denied treatment suddenly he is remorseful just because MC commits suicide? I would believe it if I could get an ounce of feeling that he loves MC? He calls MC whore, slut, prostitue. Treats him like one. That is definitely not love. It doesn’t give any feeling of love even to us readers!
Anyhow they somehow save MC. During the process khalid comes to know that MC didn’t abandoned him willingly. It was an act to save him. He even searched for him and was whipped by his mother for this reason so more regret.
Now MC wakes up and hates khalid and asks him to kill him off. He asks khalid why he did all those things to him. Now again I don’t understand that the author clearly explained to us that MC let khalid do those things because he wanted to let him release his resentment. Now MC is shown to suffer from abuse but while it was happening we were not shown much of his thought process until very late into the story where he starts to self harm to even breathe. Even during that time, we are not given any inkling of his resentment to khalid.
Understandably he wants to die but no one lets him. Emperor is also remorseful. He decides to restore his status back to noble from slave but MC is shamed and notorious in whole kingdom now because he had became a slave and was a plaything of khalid and emperor.
MC takes his revenge on both khalid and emperor. Emperor is betrayed and killed by khalid. MC becomes the next emperor and khalid now becomes his dog.
My pet peeve with this novel is that there is no one to blame for all the misery except one when the emperor rapes MC again in jealousy even after knowing that he is innocent.
Khalid’s whole world was MC and he was also treated as a slave and very badly treated at MC’s home. But at the end MC also abandoned him (according to him because he doesn’t know MC was pretending neither anyone told him). He was whipped and thrown out and he saw MC smiling at another servant after throwing him out. Just imagine for a child to rely on someone during his whole misery and that someone also cruelly and ruthlessly throw him out and abandon him. It must have been horrible. The scar must have run deep and turned so bad that it twisted him to such an ugly person later on. I understand him because I have felt the feeling and fear of being left behind. It is very very scary and hurtful.
The emperor treats MC badly for very stupid reason but more than that he treats him badly because he thinks he was supporting crown prince. So if you understand the world of emperor and its throne fights, you can know that it’s a very cruel world. Where you have to be ruthless to win. After he knows that MC is innocent he restores his status and is remoresful of the abuse MC suffered.
Lastly MC, after suffering from khalid and emperor, he also now bore resentment and hate. He kills innocent people for his revenge. He even takes relief in khalid’s suffering. He suffers from the after effects of abuse he faced at the hands of khalid and emperor. But khalid also suffered the pain from the abandonment of MC. He then took his revenge on MC. All his happy memories from MC turned painful ones because at the end he was abandoned so he must have thought those moments were just pasttimes for MC.
When I see it, who do I blame then? Khalid suffered and took revenge from MC. MC willingly offered himself to khalid to decrease his resentment and suffered. Then he also took his revenge on khalid.
It was a circle of abuse that never ended. Even if MC never abandoned him willingly, he never told khalid. He even himself understands that khalid must have suffered alot due to that so that’s why he wants to atone and make khalid happy. He could have committed suicide anytime. He could have fought anytime but he willingly suffered everything. Once he thought he paid back everything, he committed suicide.
But he was saved, he should have been allowed death atleast. But khalid and emperor didn’t let him die. After that he takes revenge on them. The abuse cycle starts again now. He feels happy to see khalid hurt and then treats him like a dog at the end of the novel. Kills innocent people for his revenge. He becomes cruel as well.
I really hated the end. There was no respite for anyone of them. Khalif wasn’t a villain. He was just taking his own revenge. MC wasn’t a villain and he is also taking his own revenge. Not one of them thought of moving forward. It’s horrible. I wouldn’t recommend anyone this novel. There is no closure.
THANK YOUUUUU FOR THIS. I was reading the novel but kept getting so sick in the middle I skipped to the end (totally missed the suicide parts ) and saw the ending. I was so shocked but I could tell that it was bittersweet at most and I couldn’t handle that after already going through so much torture it’s soooo much worse with other context holy fuck. To think they don’t move forward or grow and rather instead stagnate and try to stay in that situation of revenge is so sickening. If you don’t mind though what chapter was the suicide part on? I’m interested in reading that
It is in chapter 97 where he commits suicide. It was not worth it to be honest. Author wrote a story, fleshed out the abuse and explained it to in such detail to then ignore the feelings aspect and even while in regret, there is hardly any closure for us. The regret is like one paragraph and then story continues. Half a chapter and then story continues. How are we supposed to connect like this seriously?
It is in chapter 97 where he commits suicide. It was not worth it to be honest. Author wrote a story, fleshed out the abuse and explained it to in such detail to then ignore the feelings aspect and even while in regret, there is hardly any closure for us. The regret is like one paragraph and then story continues. Half a chapter and then story continues. How are we supposed to connect like this seriously?
Wow that’s some bullshit right there, I was gonna try to come back to the novel and read it in it’s entirety one day bc of the NU reviews but damn I’m gonna read the suicide part for my own sick curiosity and come back to see how bad it is, either way, in a weird way I hope the manhwa can remedy these things, cause I did like the basis of this book despite how fucked it was.
I don’t think they will change anything in the manhwa. Lately fucked up stories are getting more mainstream rather than some really good ones. Again psychological genre can be a good novel too but atleast flesh out everything. Seriously at times of abuse, even when you get angry on behalf of MC, you see the MC caring for khalid even then. Like how they would sexually abuse him at night and the next morning he would be worried about leaving khalid alone in a room of nobles? Then after committing suicide, he is shown to be suffering and full of resentment for khalid????
It’s very lacking. You will be left with horrible feelings of neither any closure of MC revenge or khalid’s regret. Or any closure of healing because that absolutely doesn’t happen!
thank you for this detailed summary but you can NEVER equate abandonment and rape. MC leaving khalid behind doesn’t deserve MC getting raped, there’s a reason why one is crime and one is not. Even if the MC in his mind rationalized it’s okay for him to get raped and abused by khalid, you as a reader should never think that’s okay and valid.
Yes, it’s okay to understand where khalid is coming from, but just because you understand doesn’t mean it’s valid for rape and abuse.
Absolutely. But rape and murder both are wrong. We can’t say one wrong and then the other right or justify it. Both MC and ML commit acts in revenge. Both were hurt. Both were wrong. I never condoned any action in my summary. I’m saying that there was no villain as to how we usually expect in stories for any third party to be the reason of suffering. In this, every person is just behaving as to how they suffered and their mental health got deteriorated.
If khalid wasn’t abandoned or knew that MC never intended to abandon him, he would not have treated him cruelly. If khalid didn’t abuse MC, then MC wouldn’t have gotten innocent people killed.
Physical abuse and emotional abuse. Both are equal. Neither one is any inferior to the other.
I’m conveying both sides of the coin to the people reading my summary.
Again I never condoned any actions of MC or ML in my summary. I want you to think deeper. Humans are very complex creatures. There’s a saying that villains are not born rather they are made.
Khalid wasn’t just abandoned. He was abused as well, whipped, locked in closet. He suffered these things in childhood in MC’s home. The one person he gave his heart to also abandoned him with cruel words. Just imagine his world crumbling. Betrayal is something very cruel.
Then sympathize and understand MC also. He was abused and atoned for his mistake that wasn’t even a mistake. The one abusing him is the one he gave his heart to. He had nothing left in life. He had his pride and that was also stripped off of him.
Now these situations spiralled their life to worse ends. Both are suffering at the end and the cycle of abuse is now restarting with MC treating khalid as his pretty DOG.
I’m conveying the storyline and its aspects. That’s all. Who are we to blame now? Both acted the way they did because they suffered. Take Non zero sum for example and you will understand.
I see what you're saying about how trauma shaped both characters' actions, and I understand that Khalid's suffering explains his motivations. But it's crucial to remember that abandonment, while painful, doesn't equate to an act like rape or physical abuse. Abandonment might create emotional scars, but it doesn't justify the choice to inflict severe trauma in retaliation.
No amount of emotional betrayal gives someone the moral right to take revenge by raping another person.
MC may become a murderer later, but his actions are reactions to Khalid's cruelty, which crossed an irreversible line.
Recognizing the pain of both characters is important, but it's also essential to hold them accountable based on the gravity of their actions. To me, abandonment and rape exist in completely different moral realms—and that line matters.
You mentioned there are no villains in this story, but I disagree. Both Khalid and the Emperor became villains by crossing those lines. They chose actions that went beyond pain or betrayal, actions that harmed MC irrevocably. In doing so, they became the very villains of their own stories— and ultimately led to MC's own descent into a murderous villain as well.
I respect your opinion. That’s an interesting take. I myself suffered many years of abuse and I firsthand know the consequences as to how it can shape a person’s mind or how it can twist it. I even suffered from sexual abuse. I tend to think too deeply about these things. Sometimes a thing can appear as very small and not that harmful but it can leave a very deep mark on other person’s consciousness.
That’s why I have learned to never think of anyone’s pain as small or big. It ultimately depends on the person suffering.
One thing this novel depicts is that neither of the two took the road to forgiveness or moving on, healing. Khalid could have forgiven knox and knox could have moved forward to heal. For me, both are wrong yet I can understand both of them.
I appreciate you sharing your experiences, but I must respectfully challenge the idea that understanding Khalid's pain justifies his actions. It sounds like you're acting as an apologist for Khalid, focusing on his motivations instead of condemning the abuse he inflicted.
While it's important to acknowledge the depth of pain each character experienced, we must draw a line when it comes to their actions. If we blur the distinction between right and wrong just because we empathize with someone's suffering, we risk losing our ability to judge actions rationally.
Not all pain is equal, and some actions—like rape and physical abuse are indefensible, regardless of the circumstances. It's crucial that we maintain a clear moral compass, recognizing that understanding a motive does not excuse the harm caused. In this story, both characters had choices, and they chose paths that resulted in irreversible damage, transforming them into the very villains of their own narrative.
Well understanding why but still condemning shows that you know what they did is wrong. I’m simply doing this. Again, you are focusing on khalid and his abuse because you don’t equate abandonment and rape.
I focus on BOTH. I’m saying that BOTH are wrong. Abandonment and rape is wrong. Just because you were raped so killing innocent people in your revenge is also wrong.
Inflicting pain on others in any way is wrong. Hope you understand it. I’m not justifying rather I’m not discriminating who did more wrong or who did less evil. For me evil is evil. Please read my summary and comments again.
Again, you are misunderstanding. Knowing why someone would do something and still condemning is because you know they are wrong.
While you are focusing on khalid and his abuse and understanding what ultimately turned Nox into a murderous villain, I’m understanding on what turned BOTH of them evil.
I’m not scaling as to who did more wrong or who did less evil. For me evil is evil. You don’t rape someone in hate, you don’t kill innocent people in hate. Both did wrong and both are liable for their evil. We can never excuse ANY ONE of them.
Inflicting pain on others in any way is ultimately wrong. Let’s stop this convo here now. Since we are going round and round and I’m tired of repeating the same thing again and again ( ̄∇ ̄")
So the ML is one of the most “dirty talk during sex type” of person who likes to say vulgar things. In the first chapter he seems like the cold type but the later chapters he is kinda chatty, funny and hypersexual. The first sexual thing he says to uke is to sit on his face and let him suck his hole LOL.
Okay seme will beat uke in the next chapters but that is the only time he will be treated that roughly by seme. He is working with the mindset of a general who is investigating a criminal so I totally understand how he gets rough.
Later he is sometimes verbally abusive like saying bad or hurtful things to uke and also during sex I don’t think if he is physically or sexually abusive to uke. They have a agreement but do remember it is kind of dubious consent because uke HAS to agree with his whims due to circumstances not because he WANTS to.
Basically the lieutenant that uke was working with to supply the drugs to castle people, he like uke and wants to take him as his concubine. So in order to do so, he fed uke experimental drugs to make him able to conceive a baby. Uke has no idea about it.
Seme wants to bust that lieutenant’s ass in a trial for drug scandal and harvest scandal (meaning experimenting on people) so for evidence that lieutenant kim did that he needs evidence of uke being pregnant.
Somehow it is decided by him that uke will be pregnant by his child in the next couple of chapters as the best strategy to avoid suspicion in a trial that he and his subordinates raped or abused uke into being pregnant. He decides to have a video testimony of uke who says he likes seme and wants to have his baby.
Now seme will see uke without all those tanning sprays and will be mind blown by his beauty LOL. The story basically doesn’t have any big antagonist. It is about the development of their relationship while seme navigates through collecting evidence and making uke pregnant.
Uke falls in love, gets pregnant, is told by the doctor Lieutenant Na that he is pregnant, freaks out and then seme lies to him and he didn’t know uke could be pregnant. Otherwise he would have used contraception. Seme kind of gets nervous seeing uke’s breakdown that’s why he decides to lie to uke so that uke won’t leave him.
Uke is unsure of having baby, seme tries in his own clumsy ways to take care of uke but he is still kind of not really conscious of his own feelings (our seme has low EQ. Kinda dumb in emotional feelings). Things happen, uke gets to know taht seme lied, that he is used as a piece of evidence, he feels betrayed and runs away.
Funny thing our seme uses the crazy psycho methods to catch him back. Well I like overly possessive semes so I really really liked his methods. (Yeah I’m unhinged :(….)
They will fight some more, things will happen, baby will come, some more regret and then happy ending.
What kind of shitty ending is this…┗( T﹏T )┛
what did u expect?
the mc get revenge on the ml?
HA! bad news bro the author has a fckd up brain who cant even think of a better plot other than normalizing r@p3
For the mental gymnastics that the author made the characters do, I was hoping for something more extreme for climax ╥﹏╥
Not this shitty lukewarm ending… #-.-)
yeah this story was i think just for money making nothing else, at least i do tsuppirt the author by reading here
*dont support*
The way we are so unapologetic about it (≧∀≦)
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