Asteria's Topics (16)

i know this is fiction and all, but I can't stand when people bring Na Haesoo into this. The reason she was "nonchalant" is cause her BF put debt on her and was leeching off her! How can you expect more "passion" from your partner when ur forcing them to fund your lifestyle without doing anything in return? They did NOT both play a part in ruining their relationship. This dude litteraly went to their house last chapter after cheating and got pleasure from seeing her hurt...but you and 22+ other who liked ur comment placing equal blame is crazy. And no, Mincheol should not be given a chance to move on, he needs karma to hit him like a truck

Definitely this, her being “non-chalant” doesn’t give justification for him to cheat bruh like? Of all the things he had her go through? Who would even have the strength or vigor to do something else. She’s too tired to do that. Lol

Well, being an enabler is bad too. Cant blame her for having a passive personality since she grew up in an abusive family i think, But its sad that she always tried to clean up his mess without complaining and never made an attempt to leave him despite being disrespected, it definitely just made his demon flourish. Theyre like poison to each other. Still, cant wait for mincheol to get a dose of his own medicine especially when he finds out about Tae Ha. (^~^)

she is definitely not his poison for being treated like a doormate lmao. if anything she was his energy and ego boost. So as much you want to blame the woman in the relationship, she is not at fault for being a victim of emotional and even it seems sexual abuse

I mean thats just how it is sometimes, some people are really just bad together. You really shouldnt stay with someone who tolerates your disrespectful and self dstructive behavior with such indifference just as how you shouldnt stay with someone who would drag you to hell with them.

Yeah you shouldn't stay with your abuser. But its kind of KNOWN that victims of abuse often have a difficult time leaving because their mind warped by their abuser...the victims are not part of the problem.

That's true, but its not all black and white in a relationship though. Mincheol seemed to have dramatically changed for the worse during their time together and she didnt know any better too so it cant be helped. its not her fault that she's used to abuse but the dude also had a sad life with literally no family alive, so you really cant expect much. Perhaps if both of them were with better partners or worked on themselves before they rushed into marriage they would have thrived so much better. Theyre both emotionally damaged people and very poor too so yeah bad match.

Was she sexually abused? It said they havent done the did in a long time, she refused him and her body language made him stop everytime too. Could be wrong but yeah she deserves better and hes a POS for doing what he did and still does.

1. Even if it's not a"all black and white", she was not a part of the problem. Yes partners are supposed to know the most about each other but they r also just people. lots of people have family troubles but they don't got dumping their debt on their wives and taking their anger out on them by cheating. He is the problem.
2. He would touch her when she didn't want him to. That's abuse

Not everyone has proper mental for that but yea i agree

Even so its obvious that theyre really just incompatible. Given how Mincheol is kinda on tbe intense and childish and Hae So is really passive and she felt like she needs to shoulder everything. Just as how she refused to celebrate after they signed their marriage. It makes sense and is more logical but some people but still, to pelple who needs more stimulant to their brains, its sad to be with someone whos always so uptight. But again none of it is FLs fault. And i said that in all my replies. Theyre just really not for each other thats it

Even so its obvious that theyre really just incompatible. Given how Mincheol is kinda on tbe intense and childish and Hae So is really passive and she felt like she needs to shoulder everything. Just as how she refused to celebrate after they signed their marriage. It makes sense and is more logical but to some people who needs more stimulant to their brains, its sad to be with someone whos always so uptight. But again none of it is FLs fault. And i said that in all my replies. Theyre just really not for each other thats it.

Lol waa typing too fast. Anyway yeah i agree that FL is the victim and that Mincheol needs to pay for his actions.this is drama so its really not that deep. But in real life, its definitely more complicated and just because youre a martyr doesnt mean u havent done anything wrong in your lifr. Just as how parents who give their children everything and solve all their problems actually do more harm than good.

But you DID say it was the FLs fault saying she was part of the reason why their marriage failed as if the crusty tngerine didn't put her in that position. people can have opposite personalities and NOT be abusive toward their partners and take advantage of them

Eh?more like I said its a result of the choices they made while taking their mental state and personality into account. Do you really think one can be 100 percent innocent If their relationshp that started off as genuine started falling apart? (Ofc its different if Mincheol was only acting nice just to woo her at first like a true psycho) the way i see it for now is that
he turned into an irredeemable POS and just embraced it as copium. He was prolly been dreaming of having his own little family that he never had growing up with her and a loving passionate partner, but he isnt man enough to deserve that. Blaming her was easier way to cope and more accesible since she just kept taking it anyway without expressing her thoughts, anger and disappointment. Youre supposed to grow together with your partner and watching them self dstruct only to clean it up later then repeat is definitely not the way to go. None of them were equipped to make a thriving relationship happen. Now its an important lesson Na Hae So had to learn the hard way for her character development, slowly shes going to start feeling and living again while Mincheol is only ruined beyond repair from here on out.

And he obviously deserves it.

Haesoo was in fault for not leaving him earlier (although t's hard for victims to do), but she was not the reason for the initial decline of their relationship. Let's just agree to disagree on this topic then

Literallyyy, like I’m all for a slow burn but atp they testing my patience fr.

He's all yours

you can take him we dont want sister kissers

no way

girl he wont want you unless you become his sis

The author would probably agree with you lol

ngl you're so brave for this given how notorious mangago commenters are about not understanding how kinks work and that fictional characters are fictional

Bro the guy wants TO FUCK HIS SISTER!! How the fuck is that normal or a kink?!

Well the author thinks it’s normal and has an incest fetish

people can justify anything in name of kinks

yall really trying to cancel this character like they exist irl with the automatic assumption that it's HIS "kink" i'm talkin about. love how all these replies perfectly illustrate my point

Bruh, having to make the character(fl brother) doesn't mean the author thinks its normal and has incest fetish. Did you not read the story? THE AUTHOR CLEARLY MADE IT AS ANGST AND PLOT TWIST SO THAT WE ENGAGE IN THE STORY ANDDD EVERY PART OF THE STORY IS DETAILING HOW RUBY IS SUFFERING FROM THIS AND HOW SHE FINALLY BREAK FREE AND FOUND LOVE IN ISKE. I don't get why you think the author has fetish or stuff. Its the plot twist myghad.

I mean unless the author made it as Ruby liking her brother, that's incest and fetish. Bro doesn't know how to distinguish fiction plotline/plottwist to reality.

They made a novel called cinderella brother the whole story was about siblings and an age gap relationship. The author got inspiration to write it because of ruby and Cesar. All their works have incest or some form of it. Don’t you think that the author is low-key weird if they have to add incest in all their fucking stories. Not to mention Cesar Borgia in real life was a religious figure it is disrespectful to make him out as this abuser and sister lover when in real life, they did not even have any kind of romantic relationship it was simply a rumor made by her abusive husband at the time.

If I remember correctly they are not blood related. Ruby's mother was already carrying her when she married Caesar's father.

You’re right technically it’s not incest but it’s still weird since they did grow up with each other

As long as its not straight up incest and the ML is not related to the FL i dont harbour harsh feelings. Luckily cesare is not the ML. And we are reading it illegally anyways.

There are some manwhas, mostly in the reverse harem ones, where one love interest is almost always the step brother or even worse the biological sibling so yeah its unfortunately everywhere. Even yaoi is not free from sin since there are many with straight up incest i heard. I really wonder what be going through these authors minds. So yeah theres even worse out there and dont get me started on the rape in these yaois.

If anyone knows where to buy that jacket that doesn't fall from strong winds, please contact me cause I need that HAHAHA

What are you on about she told him she needs some time she didn't just randomly disappear.

Yeah I thought they would have a happy ending after all the advertising I saw of this like two years ago but no they did this shit I regret wasting my time on this like I would have done better things ugh