People dropping this because the characters are Bisexual is fucking ridiculous. Like y’all just as bad as people on tiktok who be mad that someone like a fictional BL character. FYI Caesar and Leewon are Bi too, Caesar slept with women in RIC ——the novel was more detailed than manhwa. Y’all are weird and need to touch grass(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I think people are dropping it because of the Train part and Yeah, Ilay also slept with women before he meet Taeui too
Ilay slept but they didn't fucking show it detailed orientedly gurl, it's bl manhwa only bl fans who don't like to read straight come here, what the fucking use if it feels like we are reading not even straight story, it's fucking straight smut.
Sure
"Bl fans who don't like to read straight" just say ur a fetishizer fucking weirdo quit complaining about it and go read ur gay porn somewhere else
I swear you have a problem with bl fans gurl, did they say anything to you??, you are the one who is meddling their opinions. You are so weird and sick.
Can't reply to ur comment ja-isri I think you blocked me but omg haiii you're that fag from earlier!! :3
Yes I'm that gay ..... I don't even want to talk to you but why is it always you hushhh
Even if it’s in detail this is just biphobia you’re spewing out. You can be enjoy a 17+ rated LGBT+ manhwa that detail sex with a straight and with both MLs. Again hating on it simple because it’s detailed is being biphobic and weird
Gurl whatever it is , why does it concern you when they drop this?? Why is this fandom not able to digest the fact that they don't like it. You are fine with it so you are continuing, we are not fine with it so we are dropping. That's all it is simple...... That's so weird with this fandom.
Anyway don't mention me in this shit anymore plzzzz , I said I'm dropping so you need to understand that i dont wanna be in this CA fandom.
1) YOU MENTION ME UNDER MY COMMENT; not the other way around
I'm pretty sure I didn't mention you
You commented under my comment defending biphobia. It doesn’t matter if you (or others) drop the story because of plot or because you don’t like a toxic ML. The point is y’all weird for dropping the series because bisexuality being expressed with a character ———which is the point
Girls keep plucking your hair haha, I will be back as soon as their love story begins anyway. And yes I hate gurls who don't mind their business like you.
This is another story where I would just sl*t my throat in front of them so they couldn’t have me. Like how that one story ended (forgot the name) but instead of a “opened” throat he allowed himself to get shot
You just like me bookie, I'm always praying on the death of mc's (preferably in front of the ml's eyes) coz they deserve better
I’m not going to be quick to say him throw in the pit of hell. But also I’m not going to give him a free pass. Yes rape sucks (speaking as a SV survivor) and the trauma mentally, emotionally and physically is ENORMOUS but this doesn’t give you ok or make it ok to be a rapist yourself. I guess the author was trying to navigate through the complexity of this (b/c there are survivors who become assaulters themselves) but I can already tell this is going to be handled half-ass and just a “bridge” for the bdsm route b/c they couldn’t find a better and/or organic way to introduce it. They should’ve aged the younger brother up without the need for csv.
This long winded up but all in all I’m leaning more towards dropping the story due to this setup unless it actual is handled better in the upcoming chapters.
I can already tell this jerk is messing with Naho making people think he’s weird and making sure he doesn’t have friends all the while making Naho dependant on him. I want Naho to fight back, cross dress, make friends, say Kana is weird for calling him cute in public and tell him to kick rocks———but I know I’m asking for too much and Naho is most likely going to cry himself to sleep and be quiet at school.
I’m caught up with season and idk if I’ll continue it just not a story that’s clicking with me
Btw I think a lot of y’all forget that there is a kink called CNC within BDSM culture. Not all bdsm is just ropes, blindfolds, whips, leather, candle wax and chains.
I really liked the story and it makes me think either the cat is Cath the friend or the great grandma trying to stop her son. And I think the reason why the cat didn’t like Wim holding him was due to the fact he was ok while Vin was not, and let’s be real the only real person for him was the brother but given that time and how they treat people with mental illness at faculties I would be lying my as* off too
The romance felt rushed esp after the way chapter 3 ended. And to make chapter 4 a see Ao was right type of way was “half assed” esp since Ao’s prejudices towards carnivores was never rectified at all (not even in some self reflection type of way, which has been done before with herbivore x carnivore BL stories) and it just seem like Asuka was in the dog house until festival date. This started off nicely as a 4 going to a 4.5/5 but definitely ended as 3/5 (at best).
Yes violence creates violence but guess what being a coward doesn’t stop violence, looking the other way doesn’t stop violence, letting yourself get beat up, trafficked and/or r*ped doesn’t stop the violence———this type of thinking is why the uke is annoying. Not because he didn’t want the guy to fight but because all the previous actions and his way of thinking is annoying better yet it’s cowardice. And let’s be real here the uke is also being prejudice towards the seme because he is a tiger/carnivore. He has yet to even try to be in the shoes of the seme vs the sème who has tried and even apologized when he was wrong. Too many of y’all are excusing cowardice, prejudice and incompetency.
Edit: Yes the Leopard gang is the ultimate bad guys, but the uke has been getting on my nerves and this chapter solidified it. If you look at the previous chapters the uke was so quick to have only negative prejudice towards the seme. The uke is very closed minded, he’s just not being outright rude is why y’all excusing his behavior.
But he never said not being violent towards the gang members would make things dandy. His perspective is just that things will get WORSE (not bad. Worse.) If they try it. Given their speech, seems they tried fighting back once and things got worse. Uke is not being annoying for being conditioned by other ppl into thinking if they dont do stuff, things will be bad, but not as bad as if they fight back. The fault lies in the gang.
But the uke was against violence even before the seme came back and before the kidnapping incident. Being conditioned gives leave way but doesn’t completely excuse the behavior. Childhood trauma can cause an adult to say cruel things when angry, doesn’t excuse the behavior. And no one saying the leopard gang ain’t bad but yet again you’re covering for the uke’s cowardice and prejudice towards the seme; and his incompetence with him not once truly trying to understand him as person/carnivore.
About ur edit: well, if he had only bad experiences with mafious, carnivorous dudes, ofc he would hold prejudice about the dude. With a banal example, it is like asking someone who knows how cruel things can be in fashion courses not only because it is common sense but because they experienced it to not consider every fashion course bad
But I never said it was only after seme came back? Even if seme wasnt in the picture, his behavior is understandable and you didnt just compare fearing having violent stuff happening to u because u reacted back to an unstable adult with anger issues lmao
Defense mechanisms have a reason to be called that. If uke sees another way to have a better solution and still keeps that mentality, then we do have a problem, but so far, being violent doesnt seem to be helping his case much and hence why he is trying to keep low profile.
His defense mechanism is him keeping low profile—is leaveway, it still makes him a coward because that’s way he is choosing. You taking the fall and others know you taking the fall doesn’t make it any better just because you don’t get a potential blowback situation. His prejudice doesn’t get a pass either. He wasn’t even judging him for being a mafia until after the fact. He’s been judging him from the because he was a carnivore. He didn’t have a bad past with carnivores, he doesn’t even try to put himself in the seme NOT ONCE, every time seme is already negatively judging him then having a “oh/ sigh of relief” moment once the seme does the opposite. Uke is lazy, he is the type person who’s always judging and naggy but barely/never be supportive. No matter how you’re trying to slice it, he not completely innocent, not non annoying,& not non incompetent.
Also I used an example as to say trauma doesn’t excuse everything/ cover for mistakes/behavior——which was the point since you brought up trauma. If that example made you confused, I’ll say it again without the example. Your trauma doesn’t excuse rude or sh*tty behavior. The uke having *possible* trauma doesn’t excuse the prejudice, that he has been constantly thinking and some cases acting on. Trauma doesn’t exempt you from being called out on.
Idk if u noticed, but... the mafia guys WERE carnivores, which implies that yes, he did have bad time with carnivores
Never said trauma makes you be scot-free either, but it also doesn't hurt to see the side of the one traumatized and be empathetic about where they are coming from. Even more so since uke isnt a real person and we can't have a talk to them about how shitty they are being. Communication is the basis of everything and they didn't address it yet, nor is someone with trauma expected to flip a switch automatically to become happy ever after about carnivores or whatever their trauma source is. It takes time, even more so when they dont set up a proper talk about it. Sure, ppl should see they are being assholes, but it often doesnt only take themselves to see that. Sometimes u need a therapist a friend who can call u out on that and make some serious talk or lots of face planting into the opposite situation to see you are wrong. Alas, it seems therapy doesn't exist in most mangas, so we are stuck with option 2 and 3. It often isnt likely in mangas that option 2 happens and it seems this manga is the case, so we are only actually left with option 3.
After all, you cant just go and say to a person "you got trauma and no support to deal with it in a healthy way? Lol just deal with it better". It is a pity, but it is what it is and they need time to deal with it better
If it harms other ppl, the other ppl should distance themselves from the person indirectly harming them, which should be even more of an indicative and a call out to shitty behavior, specially if the person doing harm treasures their relationships
At this point I’m done. Excuse his cowardice, but excuse his prejudices just excuse all his bad stuff
Does anyone have the raws or even the English version linked to some where that’s not virus infested like zin-something website or manga kank***?
Aside from season 4 all these men are bastards that I hope rot in hell. And the fact that multiple states wanna go back to this type of marriage life that make it hard for women to get a divorce and have to be 007 level spies to get revenge is ridiculous