I only read a bit of spoilers and yup, Charlotte is just a BITCH ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Here's the spoiler page: https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-precious-sister-of-the-villainous-grand-duke-%EC%95%85%EB%8B%B9-%EB%8C%80%EA%B3%B5%EB%8B%98%EC%9D%98-%EA%B7%80%ED%95%98%EB%94%94%EA%B7%80%ED%95%9C-%EC%97%AC%EB%8F%99%EC%83%9D.103157/
how bitch she is??
Well you know the shit she pulled at the tavern? That isn't even the BEGINNING of the stuff she puts the MC through. Its a long story and I have to give some spoilers I found to explain how bad she is.
Okay so first of all, she does have a lot a "divine powers", she just uses it to make people feel more inclined to listen to her and do stuff for her (honestly a lot of people thought she was able to mind control people, when in reality that's not really the case (her power also doesn't work on everyone like the MC and both her brothers in this life I believe), and she is EXTREMELY manipulative.
She keeps trying to throw the MC into problems that she either had caused herself, just made up, or etc. One of that being that she took her able to see people's auras, which is completely the MC's ability. So yeah, Dietrich was having none of that at least.
Also there's a part to the prophecy that she didn't mention and it's mentioned in what I copied below from the page.
@_potato 's spoiler from the form:
" she's such a :mad:(((. She can control people's minds(ithink) and her own aura(so annissa cant tell if she was really a saint). She is a two faced lying....person who thinks the world revolves around her. She forces detti to accept her as the first ever guest to the north to 'convert' people from worshipping demons. Everyone believes she is a saint because there was a prophecy that a blue eyed saint would conquer the north and bring it into salvation(?). *And she 'feels' it very much*
(a hidden part of the prophecy states about a warning that the northern part could be taken away by a clown mimicking God) that thot is herrr!!!! :mad:(( im so frustrateddd. She dare say this to annissa and detti. Shes aiming for our detti saying its destiny :mad:(((.
The thing that happend in the capital i mentioned up there was about her making people misunderstand that annissa stole some holy relic(but it was her who stole it from a merchant saying that it was illegal to sell them).
*Because of her north origins, that misunderstanding, and the lack of the noble's uselessly annoying manners, she was treated as an outcast and was being being insulted by nobles.
Charlotte also semiridiculed annissa on her attempt to hunt and exposed how annissa summoned baal(annissa did cause she didnt liked the nobles talking like that, she'd rather talk to the devil) to the emperor. *forbidden to use abilities in the capital* because of this, she was imprisoned for a few days. (With the accuse of attempted murder on a count's wife.)
She also accused her of 'stealing' heredia's eyes of truth and purifying powers on annissa :mad:((. (i think charlotte cant see auras)
DETTI was mad. so after the succession, he broke the prison door and took her home without charlotte."
Also, this is a bigger spoiler that's not completely related to Charlotte, but more the prophecy part.
So, you know how demons will eventuality kill those with whom they form contracts with and how Dietrich is just racking up the number of demons he has in his collection? And how the MC has the power to purify demons as well how her eyes are red?
Well some way or another after Derek is killed and more stuff happens (I haven't fully figured that out yet), but Dietrich ends up dying (I think as a result from all those contracts with demons), and the MC was able to save him and purify the demons/him and release the contracts or something of that nature, which ends up saving him.
However the MC loses her memory as a result and her powers temporarily (which she ends up getting back when she regains her memories), her eyes also change from red to blue (which fits into the prophecy). The MC and Dietrich still know each other after this and are going by different names (again, I'm not sure why at this point), but once she starts to remember they kiss, so yeah.
Spoiler Page Link:
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-precious-sister-of-the-villainous-grand-duke-%EC%95%85%EB%8B%B9-%EB%8C%80%EA%B3%B5%EB%8B%98%EC%9D%98-%EA%B7%80%ED%95%98%EB%94%94%EA%B7%80%ED%95%9C-%EC%97%AC%EB%8F%99%EC%83%9D.103157/
Here's a spoiler if you had this question after this...
" I wonder how Charlotte got caught though and what the aftermath looked like, could someone please enlighten me? " - @neru74
Please note that this spoiler also contains huge spoilers for the end/whole of the story in general!
" she was being mean to annissa in a very noble lady like manner(compliments that insult) and she was being two faced with annissa then later blames her from getting together with her ‘fated one’ which charlotte thinks is detti. Thats how annissa knew there was something wrong about her. (She also acts chummy with detti(he doesnt care though)
It turns out the new god(not the one who gave annissa’s power) was a demon who was cloaked to look like a god and the ‘holy powers’ of the saint was demonic charm(ithink) magic. In the climax of the story, the devil showed its true form and unleashed wrath on our ml and mc. Detti and herman with annissa had to battle it.
After the battle, charlotte became powerless and cause they defeated it. Instead of being remorseful for whatevery happend, she was depressed/anxious of her future, a future where she’s not a saint, just a regular human named charlotte.(she didnt want to lose her ‘sainthood’) feeling guilty, herman took her back to euclid.
In the end of the story, annissa went out to travel all by herself(cause she really wanted to do that eversince), detti who didn’t want to let her go, finally agreed. It ended with the narrative saying she’ll come back home to her LaGrenge
(*actually, somewhere in the novel, she had successfully reformed Lagrenge with her powers and her warmth(?), the past grim atmosphere of the land disappeared and everyone was happy) " - @_potato
whoa thats really reallu long. i really appreciate you for this spoiler tysm!
fool me to think charlotte is still look like a child to me and maybe she can do something wrong once or two maybe later she will change BUT WTF WHEN I READ THE SPOILER I CHANGE MY MIND. THIS BTCH IS TRASH
how dare she accused my anissa and hitting on derii destiny my ass
I'm sorry but as soon as she started playing in the fountain I couldn't stop thinking about how she's basically just foreshadowing becoming a bird, bc of the fountain is basically a giant bird bath
While what this saint girl makes me want to slap her, we have to remember this is a kid who was just threatened, tricked, and told that she's going to be made into a slave, so I feel like she just did the first thing that came to mind and thought quick on her feet.
The reason why I say this is, bc the last time she saw the MC, not only did she find out she was from this evil family (though she was confused af how the MC even from that family (*cough* it's bc she doesn't *cough*)), but she also saw how protective her brother was over her and the only time she ever seen the MC she was with a family member (she may or may not know the rules of which family members can come in and out of the estate just from her position of being the saint, as well for living there for awhile at this point)(I'm also not sure if she saw the MC's brother, but she may have out of the corner of her eye).
So, she probably put two and two together and went: "Well I'm in deep shit, aren't I? Oh wait, there's that pink haired girl from before from that evil family with her very protective brother, he's probably here too since kids can't come in her otherwise. If I get her involved or even this guy's full attention on her, then he'll leave me alone, and her brother will beat the hell out of him and neithee one of us has to get hurt! Hopefully since I'm the saint this won't backfire too much on me"
If this is the case, I'm moving her to Slytherin (Ravenclaw I feel like she shouldn't learned not to trust random guys after living in that area for even a year (though I think she's been there for a couple at this point, I can't remember tbh); there's probably way easier and safer ways to get to that Temple she wants to go to; and to not mess the MC and face her brother for having put in that dangerous situation to begin with like that (she was still being a bitch, a smart one, but still one in the end, considering the MC was getting up to help her anyways)).
I was just thinking the same thing. She's just a child. Besides, the system in their world is different from ours. We have child protection laws and slavery is a taboo. We have higher standards in our ethical values. The og fl is just trying to survive. I'm not saying what she did was ethical, but I can understand. I think it's just funny how many are so mad at the og fl when we have Dietrich who kills just as easily as breathing but they're okay with it.
Yeah, she's just desperate kid in a terrible situation who did something rash and unethical (though pretty smart in a lot of ways) to try and get out said situation. I'm sure a lot of other people would do it too who aren't even kids, at least kids have the defense that the judgement part of their brain isn't fully formed yet (and won't be for the most part until early-mid-20s give or take depending on different factors of course).
You have a point about Dietrich and how people react to him vs her, when one has done action FAR worse than than the other. Like he's been raising his little "sister" (or rather just a random baby to him, but one that grew up with him like a sister) and keeping her alive for the main purpose of getting close to her and sacrificing her (RIP to the MC bc not does the og ML want to sacrifice you, so does the og FL)(also, I know that he's starting to get second thoughts on that). Like don't get me wrong as I can make an argument for him as well, but that's not what we're talking about rn.
Warning, these are rather big spoilers (please note I found these on the spoiler page, so they may not be 100% accurate.
Some about Yuri:
Yuri (the OGFL from the game) is the daughter of a maid who fell in love with her master, a nobleman (a baron or something, doesn't really matter tbh), and had a child with him. Somewhere along the lines the nobleman's legal wife finds out about all of this and Yuri's mother gets fired and kicked out.
Somewhere along the way her mother also was an attendant for the 2nd Queen (the 2nd Prince's (Ed) mother) who poisoned/killed the 1st Queen (the 1st Prince's (Dean (*cough* Alfred *cough*)) mother), who was also fired (I think the doctor who was sent to help the 1st Queen also poisoned her as well, as he was in the 2nd Prince's fraction). Honestly, this bit wasn't very clear how it all played out exactly.
Yuri and her mother where living a hard life after this, and when her mother became ill she went to her father for help, but he wouldn't even give her the time of day and shunned her. Her mother ends up dying soon after. This is when she realized that he saw hee mother as nothing more than a plaything to be used and thrown away. She hated men. She hated the country she lived in and tbh I'm not even sure why that was, it may have been mainly directed towards the nobles and the royal family. Yuri wants to watch this country crash and burn, she wants revenge for everything she went through.
So, in chapter 58ish in the manga where Divan (I believe) says that she's like her mother when she was saying how cute the prince was, that's why she reacted so strongly. She doesn't want to become so in love with a man that it she loses her senses and have that person stab her in the back and/or have love ruin her life.
Ending:
"Note: in the raws the story is completed.
From What I remember (sorry can't get into details...) Oh...please tell me if I am wrong
- iris get proposed by neighbor kingdom's prince because of her talent at business (?)
- she asked herself if she will accept proposal or not as there is crisis in her fief.
- Iris's father was unconscious (forgot if because he is sick)
- The King died. In some party after that ( Iris attend them) the queen faction want to make Ed (2nd prince) to be a king. But suddenly, Dean appear and revealed his identity as the 1st prince.
- Dean revealed about some shady thing or something. I think it is about Divan being a towair kingdom spy.
- Iris's bro (Bern) was going to capital, but in his journey he saw some scene like hell (something like many corpses..people died)... He then cut his hair, and vowed that he will never let this happen again.
- Towair kingdom attacked...One of places get attacked is Iris's fief. She then send the letter of approval or something for another fief soldiers to help fight against invader. And she too asked Anderson's help (the general aka Iris maternal grandpa family).
- Bern meeting with Dean and Letty in capital. He then tell them how he thinks Iris is better to govern the fief than him. And he will step down from the heir position or maybe exiled himself so that Iris stay as fief lord. (It is better than Iris married to another country). And reasoning that married Iris to another country will make their country loss.
- Mellice (Iris mother) was in her maternal home when she heard about the attack. She then take back her position (as military genius) and go to the war with her troops.
- Iris want to evacuate her people but the people doesn't want to. They want to help as it is their own home.
- Hearing the attack, Dean was really worried, he want to join the fight but he has responsibility as the king. Letty then said 'go. I will help you from this side' (Letty will substitute Dean when Dean is in war). Then Dean go to help fight against Towair invaders.
- With help from Anderson's troops and all, they won the war. They bring a prisoner of war. He said that he was a prince of Acacia kingdom, some doubt him as why a prince from another country help the Towair kingdom. But, someone saw his ring that know that he was telling the truth.
- There is a really sad news coming. In the letter it is said that Dean is dead. He got shot with arrow in the chest(?). Iris get really sad until she get sick.
- Iris people investigated about the situation in Acacia kingdom she then know that there is some conflict between successors. Iris messaged them about the hostage prince, and one of prince comes (the one that proposed to Iris). They then negotiate. When the prince proposed to Iris again, she rejected him as how the Acacia kingdom got involved with the Towair kingdom to attack her country. The hostage prince goes to his home and Iris gained good business partner.
- Iris get reminiscing when she saw the night sky. Then someone joined her. It is turned to be Dean. He is alive. He really got shot with arrow and the injury is really serious. So they decide to tell that he is died. I think they confessed to each other.
- Later in the epilogue, it is said that Dean and Iris get married with only their family as witness to the wedding. Iris stay as fief lord. Common people only know that Iris married a commoner. The commoner is like her right hand or something. Her husband is really mysterious to them.
- Leticia (letty) become the queen, she married Bern. And...our maid Tanya married Dida. The epilogue said that Tanya is pregnant.. Iris and Dean already have two children.
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Dean married to Iris not as the king but as the mysterious commoner ( the king alfred was died get shot by arrow in the war against towair kingdom, but actually he was survive). So, no...they didn't get to be king and queen...but Iris was fief lord..(duchess..so she still stay at her job).
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Letty aka Leticia is Dean's little sister from the same mother. Her appearance was similar to her mom that's why Dean didn't let her meeting their father as he know how obsessed his father is to his mother.
Later, Letty becomes Queen after King Alfred 'died' in war.
And what happened to Ed and Yuri...
Actually Yuri get into prison. Ed want to release Yuri as he really love her. When he meeting Yuri in the prison, there is some incident. I think there is this guard that with Ed when he visit her but somehow he went to attacked Yuri, but then Ed shielded Yuri with his own body. He then died. Yuri later (after conversation with Iris) realized that she actually loved Ed (I think)
Bern and Letty witnessed this incident without Ed party knowing." (Pg. 8)
- @Aeiru28
Who is Backing Yuri:
@Merugoround clarified that it's Divan backing Yuri, not Dean like many people thought within the spoiler page, this misunderstanding being, due to MTL being its normal and weird self. They also mentioned that after the confession between Alfred/Dean and Iris, she made it clear that she didn't want to leave her fiefdom, as she finally got the title of duchess and wouldn't give that up for him, as she really loves her people. Dean understood and was happy (tbh he never wanted to be king in the first place and this is also why his sister ended up taking up the throne instead), as he never wanted to take away her freedom by locking her up like his father did to his mother. Dean said that this is the Iris that he loves.
Foreign Prince:
There is a foreign prince who tries proposing to Iris a few times, mostly due to how well she ruins her fiefdom. I think she does consider it, because I mean, why wouldn't she? It wouldn't look good on her if she were to remarry anyone lower than loyalty, due to having been engaged to a prince beforehand, and this prince's country could really help her fiefdom as well. She doesn't accept though.
King:
He does die at some point, but he was a dick so yeah. This does cause more tension among the two princes' factions.
Confession:
"Dean reveals himself as Alfred but idiot prince gets all pissy and declares him an impostor. Knight captain comes in and idiot prince orders him to arrest Dean. Dean gives the order to arrest idiot prince and Yuri and knight captain complies. Yuri tries to charm Dean and Iris actually thinks he's falling for it but he actually just lean in and tells her something that causes her to burst into tears." (Pg. 6)
"Looks like we finally learn what Dean said that caused Yuri to break down. 'A pitiful pathetic doll that was abandoned by a doll maker. Divan has already pulled up from the kingdom.' " (Pg.7)
- @omegazx
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I'm sorry that this all was so out of order, but here is the link to the spoiler page:
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/common-sense-of-a-dukes-daughter.6576/
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Oh yeah! I know it's been awhile since most of us have read this. I forgot to mention that Bern is Iris's brother.
Spoiler:
Bern feels terrible after what he had done to his sister and as the story goes on, his character grows as well from my understanding. He sees how his sister is running the fiefdom and how much she loves it, so he decides to give his position as heir to the fiefdom, dukedom (idk how that's worded, but he wont have the title of Duke either). If that doesn't work, he decided he would go into exile and run off to another country so that they would have no choice but to give the title and everything to Iris.
(I'm not sure, but I think someone implied that this was one of the reasons why the princess decided to marry him so that he didn't need to go to those measures.)
I'm so sad that Letty didn't marry Iris's cousin who was working with Dean/Alfred. Those two had such good chemistry
True, I'm hoping we at least get to see more of Letty and Bern's relationship growing together so that it seems more natural than it does rn
yuri crazy as shit for wanting to destroy a whole country gahdayum
Pretty much and from how it sounded, I don't think she cares if she goes down with it
Alya's way better at haggling than that Duke. She got two for the price of 100 million gold, while he only got one at the prince of 150 million.
(Disclaimer: I know they were buying people, but Alya let both of them go right after the fact. The Duke needs more than just a slap in the og novel)
Lmaooo I love smart womennnnn
Same ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Honestly, if the Callicia Head and Co. were to spend just 5 minutes, maybe even less, with her father, I think they would understand her using a pearl in order to become the Head of her household by force. I know I would
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I really would love to see the MC's Mom's reaction if she heard of all the sh*t his husband and the rest of the family had done to her daughter.
Like even the stuff before she started repeating her life is enough for any good mom to want to beat the hell out her husband. All the physical and mental/emotional abuse, as well as neglect, done to her child that she literally worked hard as hell to bring into that world, sacrificing her life in the end. I would be furious as hell and would haunt his ass in the afterlife if it possible. Then to marry some woman who looked almost exactly like you and treat her daughter the way he should have been treating the child that the both of them created together (disclaimer: there's nothing wrong with getting remarried, it's just his reason for doing so, and neither is it wrong to love your step-child, but you shouldn't treat any of your other children like trash either, especially at the sake of the other children). And then finally, you add in all of the stuff after her awakening, including all of her rebirths. Honey, you're lucky she can't come back from the grave to get you, but I'm sure she's waiting on the other side for you to come cross over, even if she has to take a vacation to hell to do so.
ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I really wish for this to happen. If MC mother had a way to get in there atleast in one of the lives among those 7 lives MC lived I bet, she would've slapped her husband and son and would've made sure to make up for all the things her daughter suffered. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
It would be really satisfying, especially since the MC seems to be stuck on boat in the middle of a ocean of people who are against her in some shape or form
Honestly, the Prime Minister and Celestine gives me Gomez and Morticia Addams vibes at times
(This is my third time trying to post this, I'm hoping that it works ヾ(❀ ╥﹏╥)ﾉ)
No wonder I love them so much!!!!!!!
Yes!!!!
Spoiler Link:
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-noble-girl-with-a-crush-on-a-plain-and-studious-guy-finds-the-arrogant-prince-to-be-a-nuisance.111963/
My one spoiler I'll give myself:
It seems that main reason why the 1st Prince, as well as the 2nd Prince who comes in later in the story after the 1st Prince gets taught a lesson and punished, is bc of their mother the Queen, so yeah.
Maybe the queen is reincarnated and MC is MC so she makes her sons chase after the MC?
I'm not sure, it would be a twist if that was the case