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Fact: You can't justify someone's harmful actions just because you're assuming that others could have done something similar if they were in his place, when it's clearly wrong. People are still responsible for their actions and should face the consequences if they're being toxic!
Skyler WAS a bully, that's irrefutable. However, knowing the reasons why he did what he did, knowing that he does regret it, knowing he is trying to make up for it (even though he still has way to go..), he has the opportunity to change and be given another chance by people.
That said, don't expect people who have been hurt by him to readily give him that chance before being convinced of his change and feeling they are ready to trust him again. In the end, I wouldn't fault Yeonduk if he decided to forgive him but just not involve himself with Skyler anymore. As I wouldn't fault him if he consciously chose to give him another chance after Skyler shows him he's changing.
Skyler never hit him and drew boundaries. Certainly, he was cruel. But he was thoroughly convinced Yeonduk was doing the same thing behind his back the whole time. If someone is shitty to you, and you do stuff back, it doesn't really seem like bullying, more like retaliating.
So, I'm not as convinced as you that this is clear cut. I think things are a bit more morally messy here.
it's not that simple, like JPE said and Yeonduk know that it wasn't all Sky fault, and he wasn't that bad has you make him out to be.
I seen worse in yaoi that were forgiven on worse things right away ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Oh dear.. This goes to both of you:
How MUCH of a bully Skyler was and whether what drove him to behave like that to Yeonduk was his presumption (key word right here) that Yeonduk was trying to use him and the knowledge that there are worse characters out there, in no way negate the effects his intentional behaviour had on Yeonduk.
If you need further understanding of bullying, look up studies and testimonies, as it's certainly not limited to "hitting" someone. If you think that calling him a bully instead of saying he harassed Skyler to retaliate for reasons he never even cared to confirm and that doesn't sound "as bad as I make him out to be", well, then.. You do you.
What the details of Skyler's side of the story matter for are:
What he needs to do to face his issues, overcome them and improve as a person
How he'll atone for what he did to Yeonduk
How empathetic toward him will readers feel and whether our opinion changes alongside the development of his character
P.S. Yeonduk has his share of responsibility for his own actions, of course. Never did I say the opposite.
1. environment did matter in this story, like you seen when Sky was a child and with a good people around him, he wasn't a bully. so no, he wasn't just "turn" into a bully from his own choice's. his mother was a big factor why he did most of what he did and how he turn out how he did. yeas he is a grown up now and can choose what to do, but not when he was a child and was manipulated by his own mother that wish he was dead, that wasn't Sky choice. and he did suffer for it while he was an asshole to Yeon.
2. what the best thing about kids and teens, that yeas they can change and grow. and Sky clearly did change. and he did face his past and yeas some of his issues are still there, but to be honest, after his great "mother" I would be surpise if he wasn't have any issues at all all of sudden. he did feel guilty and did try to change himself from how he was, but he is only human so yeas, it's not that easy to do overnight. expecting him to do all that overnight is not realistic. maybe you too hung out on his past, while I think we all need to move on cause he did grow up since then and Yeonduk grown up too since then.
Again, why are you replying to my comment with this?
Didn't I clearly say that he CAN change from my initial comment? Just because we acknowledge that he DID something wrong, it doesn't mean we're saying that he can never change. Honestly..
you said in you originel comment that people are "responsible for their actions" while in this case, in this comic it dosn't really matter or valid if he is responsible or not, cause he was manipulated while he was a child!
and yet he did took responsiblitiy for it after he find out the truth behind all of it.
has for him been a bully, I agreed with JPE that while he was cruel to Yoen he didn't bully him like others did in this comic. that by the way, he kick their ass after finding out they hurt him without knowing the truth about everything yet. so yeas, has cruel he was, it wasn't a real "bully" in the classic word. since we see bully's by Sky side and can compare them to Sky action. maybe this is the reason they are there.
You lost your ground at "it doesn't matter if he's responsible or not". You are trying to justify retaliation and harassment, as if him being or feeling manipulated absolved him of his responsibility to not harm others? Your eye-for-an-eye mentality jumped out.
What he did is still wrong, even under his circumstances. First step is owning up to what one wrongfully does, if they want to get better. That's part of the repercussions. Becoming a better person doesn't require us to pretend we never did anything harmful or that it wasn't a big deal, like you're so set on. Admitting to it and putting in the effort, people still change, which is what the character is doing.
You can keep your "he's not as bad as others" and say it to yourself if you happen to be a victim one day, to test it out. Though I wouldn't recommend it, it doesn't help with recovery.
Chapters 78-81 should be up soon. Let's enjoy the new season :)
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Chapters 24-31 will be up soon and gurl, are they intense!
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Webtoon was on discount so I had to see what happens..
Wow that was one rushed ending! At least we're done with it.. Enjoy xD
ty very much i read the spanish translation before still english one was better
No problem! :)
Ooooh thank youヾ(☆▽☆)
I binged it all (raws included) in less than a day! This is, no-doubt, one of the cutest, funniest, most enjoyable webtoons I've ever read!!!
I'm still gonna read the eng translations for the rest, because I'm sure I missed some jokes in Korean..
I don't mind spoiler so please tell me if they ever confess and kiss
I'll DM you, cause I don't know how to hide a spoiler here :D
Do you know if is going to be a season 2 ?
It seems so. The writer mentioned she'll return in December/January.
I'm on ch. 19 and my question for the last 18 chapters has been:
Why would you move in together only 2 months after meeting someone, especially when you haven't even tried to build trust between you?!
Then again, they're young and don't know any better. But any kids reading this, LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES!
My parents moved in together a month after their first meeting.
Woojung and Seohee truly deserve each other. Both are selfish as*holes. Stop blaming others and fix yourselves first!!
Just because some readers choose to focus on these characters' potentially redeemable qualities, it doesn't negate the facts of their cruelty, homophobia and their disregard of others.
No, Woojung, your "sacrifice" for Seohee's happiness isn't really that. He knew very well that Jinwoo wouldn't come to like her and Seohee would end up even more hurt, yet still kept forcing him to go to her. Why? Cause he's afraid he'd lose her completely if he tried to reason with her toxic behavior and hopes he'll eventually become the knight in shining armor who'll comfort her.
Seohee, darling, learn to accept other people's decisions and stop trying to manipulate them to get what you want.
UM BYE
Uhm hello??
Um PERFECT
:D
YOU WROTE MY EXACT THOUGHTS BETTER THAN I EVER COULD
YAS FINALLY <3 ILY
Mo didn't get fazed that he was crying in the arms of He Tian in his dream, it took tushy grabbing to wake him up.. Under all that aggression, our sweet, sensitive little munchkin wants to be held T_T PLEASE
Last 2 chapters of the season will be up soon :3