Mylai88's Topics (98)

I agree, he has a fuckin death wish

I don't know. He's being honest and saying he's liking it. Refusing to use the safe word BECAUSE he likes it. Being beaten is just what he happens to be into. A real masochist. I'd say this is peak S&M.

No. The main rules of BDSM/ SM are SAFE. SANE. And CONSENSUAL. This is neither safe nor sane(Sane doesn’t only apply to drinking and drugs). Dude needs a fucking therapist. This is well beyond using BDSM as a healthy coping mechanism/ natural kinky fun play.

Not at all. BDSM doesn’t have to be vanilla play such as spanking and hair pulling only. I’m gonna say it again and again, BDSM is not for the vanilla-y.

“But I know BDSM and I’m into BDSM so I know that this ain’t it”.

Clearly you don’t. BDSM has a very wide range. It consists of kinks and fetishes that people find disturbing. Just because you don’t find their play fun, doesn’t mean it’s consensual. You’re gonna be surprised that piss-drinking and leaving abusive marks on your sub is a very normal part on the dark side of BDSM.

The uke is aware and conscious that he’s gonna be in a lot of pain if he refuses to say the safe word - let them be. That’s BDSM. It’s actually refreshing to see a dark side of BDSM in a manhwa. Most BDSM in manhwa only include whips, blindfolds, and spanking (like BJ Alex. The side couple is vanilla as fuck in terms of BDSM)

I made a typo.

Just because you don’t find their play fun, doesn’t mean it’s non-consensual. Their play doesn’t involve you. You do your own role within your own limits and let them have their play with their limits

Also, some people are into blood play in BDSM. That’s not your thing, but it is theirs. The point of BDSM is to experience your darkest fetish without being judges by your partner or having to listen to outsider’s opinions.

Child my job is in the bdsm world and you're wrong while pretending other people who say they're in the lifestyle are faking it. While generally your kink can not be my kink and that's fine, the level of violence being done and how unhappy the top is in this: it's not bdsm. Top wants bdsm, he uses aftercare, has protocol, takes care of the wounds. Bottom wants to get beaten up and have cnc, not really to have a kink scene. You sound like a toxic bottom tbh, like the main character in this story, who doesn't understand the difference and importance of actual communication. Because that's what makes the difference. The top is going to feel like SHIT after this I bet. Keeping violence contained is important if we're talking bdsm. Now if they're just being freaks like they are right now fine. But don't come on here pretending it's still SSC, RACK, or even PRICK bdsm. But it could be close to PRICK.

Not saying it's not consensual but wanted to add. The things that makes this NOT bdsm:

The top acting out in anger
The bottom provoking his top to anger (to manipulate the situation. Common but usually harmless bratting, this is not bratting. It's manipulation)
Top is unhappy with both bottom and himself because he's stepping out of his own comfort zone (not okay)
Bottoms MUST have personal responsibility to communicate their current state to the top and safeword when needed.
Bottom is damn near subspace the way he almost accidentally said the safeword by repeating it so readily. In this case it's the tops job to see this and stop, not continue for a lesson. Nothing can be learned in this state.

Among other things. I'm not trying to be argumentive but don't sit here pretending someone is vanilla because they can recognize unsafe kink play as opposed to "bdsm"

I'm taking as an outsider here, I think that the ML seemingly completely losing control and the MC ending up in the hospital as a result of the lack of control would mean this went beyond. We didn't see what happened but it seems like MC was unconscious for a decent amount of time.
It looks like the ML is legit scared of what happened and the MC's reaction to it. I can't see how they are a good fit.

Agree. I recognize that so e people like to play hard, and know people like that. All "kink play" is not bdsm whether it's consensual or not.

I highly doubt about your job and Idc. If there’s one thing I have learned about BDSM, it’s not to give a fuck about other people’s play. Public sex is a CRIME itself but it’s widely done in BDSM so does that mean we should stop that?

Your feelings has no involvement in other people’s play. So if you see a sub being slapped and crying, begging - you’ll immediately intervene even though that’s what the sub (the client of another dom) specifically requested for just because you don’t like their play?

Just say you’re too vanilla and being vanilla is fine in itself! I don’t see anything wrong with wanting gentle sex. Some prefers it, some don’t. Some wants rough play, some don’t.

This little girl is pretending so damn hard lmfao you'd be an absolute JOKE if you took one step in a local kink community child ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ You're the textbook of a vanilla moron who thinks they understand the community because they like reading toxic kinky shit. Grow up

I never said BDSM has to be vanilla. Screw that LOL
Spanking isn’t even BDSM that’s normies stuff.
I’m into the normal BDSM stuff just as the next person. But agn still needs to be sane safe and consensual. I’m not surprised by any of the stuff u mentioned bro…. Piss drinking and leaving marks is nothing…. -.-‘
You’re the one making assumptions here. I was only taking about MC’a unhealthy mentality and lack of knowing boundaries. Getting involved with drug sellers and traffickers on accident isn’t BDSM. Unintentionally failing your classes over a sex addiction isn’t BDSM. Disrespecting people until they abuse you and beat the shit out of you without prior negotiations isn’t BDSM either…

Yall love to assume ppl are vanilla when they call out mental insanity/ immaturity or lack of proper etiquettes. Stomping on someone’s throat with full force like ML does can lead to a collapsed trachea which can accidentally kill someone. There are safer *and* more painful ways of stepping on someone… there are also safer ways of stepping on necks while minimizing the chances of real damage.
My only hard limits are scat, beastiality, and doing anything to someone that can lead to a stroke or real permanent damage. I wouldnt even say no to suturing someone… don’t just assume ppl r vanilla. It’s not the extent of play, MC’s mindset is still extremely far from healthy. It’s the lack of precaution, and communication. MC is just a fucking idiot who doesn’t know the first thing about BDSM. And ML is just as dumb cuz plot. There is no debate that MC isn’t sane enough to keep himself safe.

I’m pretty into blood play lmao…

YES IT DOES!
The public can’t consent to be part of ur public sex play. You have to be sensible about this shit. There are discrete ways of doing it. And there are events and places specifically for that stuff.

I’m saying vanilla in terms of claiming to like BDSM but not liking any pain. Vanilla sex is not something to be embarrassed about so I don’t know why you’re talking like vanilla is something to shame about. I thinking making love slowly with hugs and kisses is an amazing thing - truly, but surely not connected with BDSM.

The uke likes pain, he’s an extreme masochist and that should be fine. Not all BDSM stories should have a sweet love story involved in it. I think it’s really refreshing to see a bdsm story that actually has a potential to be fucked and not your stereotype “I am having rough sex with a handsome guy and we’re dating sweetly now”.

It’s true that they lack communication in some aspect but the ML is clearly showing something that shouldn’t be said in a relationship that doesn’t involve feelings.

A toxic story can actually become a toxic story. That’s the point. They are explicitly showing BDSM with no chances of showing sweet and innocent improvement in the near future.

And like I said… they’re showing a very bad and unsafe example of BDSM.
You can have BDSM without relationships. You can have one time plays. You can scene without any other involvement etc….
But there’s still certain etiquette involved.
This shit is just toxic for the sake of plot. Stop justifying it ppl.
Nothing wrong with vanilla, I never said that. Nothing wrong with liking pain. Nothing wrong with giving pain. Nothing wrong with liking thrill. But u don’t go sky diving without a parachute. Thats basically what MC has been trying to do this whole time. Enjoy the character’s bad and wrong behaviors for what they are, it’s fiction. Just stop trying to give ppl false images of what BDSM is. Frankly if u haven’t been to at least one munch or a few and aren’t actively involved in the community you don’t have a leg to stand on when speaking to more experienced ppl. And yall need to put words into ppl’s mouths. MC have no clue wat BDSM is, and is outwardly unhealthy and destructive. Period. Just because the author isn’t experienced enough to draw more explicit hardcore scenes/ there’s a limit to what can be published on a manhwa platform, doesn’t mean the MC’s character is any different. You keep intentionally ignoring all his dangerous past actions and trying to justify his recklessness under the guise of “consensual”. Consensual or not this isn’t healthy BDSM. There is no arguing that. MC is also an idiot. And that’s okay because that’s exactly wat the author intended for the characters and plot. Now if we can all move on, and enjoy the story for what it is without doing mental loops to try and justify very clearly unhealthy behavior that would be great. Yall r projecting urselves onto MC so hard and refusing to see things for what they are…

Also u can be into BDSM without liking any pain…. It’s not only about sadomasochism… it’s bondage discipline dominance submission sadism and masochism. So u can still be in a BDSM relationship without the sadomasochism bit if ur into dominance and submission. Bondage and discipline also don’t have to cause pain and are usually utilized in D/S involvements anyways. Aaaand you can have a BDSM lifestyle outside of sex too. So, while I’m personally very into inflecting pain, yall need to stop associating not liking pain with vanilla cuz that’s also incorrect. Lastly just like stype not all kink is BDSM.