Unironically think Sadistic Beauty has better writing than Jinx
Don’t mistake “better writing” for anything else—I don’t mean that the MC or the guy “pursuing” him are more likeable as people, or that their relationship is healthier than Dan and Jaekyung’s or anything else like that. What’s depicted there is very obviously and horrifically toxic and abusive, but that’s the thing—the author actually seems perfectly aware of that fact, unlike Jinx’s author.
We see the MC’s mental state gradually deteriorate over time the longer he’s with the other guy, going from someone desperately fighting against him and trying to escape, to someone who has fallen into learned helplessness, hopelessness, and despair. He develops suicidal ideations and starts drinking to cope. Throughout this, he catches his mindset shifting and changing because of the treatment, and he doubts himself and his reality. Even at the end when he ends up going back to the other guy, it’s clear he’s doing it not because he genuinely loves the guy, but because he still feels he has no hope in anyone or anyone else.
And the other guy, as crazy and selfish as he is, does gradually pull back on said crazy behavior whenever he sees he’s pushed MC too far, trying to make up for it. He unchains MC eventually, lavishes gifts on him, gives him bits and pieces of his freedom back over time, promises not to freak out each time after he’s done something else horrible to the MC. It’s a very classical, textbook pattern of abuse. And even this guy, again, crazy and selfish as he is, seems to hold some type of…care or affection for the MC—enough that MC’s suicide attempt shakes him so deeply to his bones that he’s willingly (at least for a bit) to finally let MC go.
So it’s just, yeah. Comparing that to Jinx and how shallow and static Dan and Jaekyung’s characters are, and how stagnant their dynamic is and has been throughout these 52 episodes of season 1…seeing how Jinx’s author hasn’t done the bare minimum in acknowledging and depicting the reality of what is happening in her own webtoon, at least not yet…yeah I do think that author has a leg up on Jinx in terms of story and characterization. Who knows, though. Maybe I will be surprised by season 2.
How many readers here have been to or graduated from university? Just curious.
I'm currently living a very miserable life in university
Are you curious because of your research on how readers view SA in manhwas?
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Hmmm what does it matter to you? I’m just a silly, overly morally righteous troll who can’t separate fiction from reality, right? I got curious because I wanted to see if all my time spent in those ivory towers of higher ed studying writing and literature is what’s causing some of the fundamental disconnect in approaches and understandings of those approaches to this work.
I asked because I assumed you wanted to know for research purposes. If you are using the info you collect for research, then you should be clearly telling readers that before you ask the question.
Definitely for research purposes
Well, I’m not. If I were I indeed would’ve clarified that but, like I said, I am just curious because of the aforementioned reasons. Though I have thought about using the various discussions I have had with people as data, I’m a bit too lazy to consciously and deliberately collect anything right now, much less break down and categorize it…
What, now we care about ethics? In the first place you’re all already anonymous by virtue of your usernames, I doubt anyone here is using their real names. You’d possibly be rendered even more anonymous by stripping you of your usernames altogether and referring to you as “user 1, user 2, user 3” etc. All the info here is also publicly available, so it wouldn’t be as if I’d privately recorded an interview containing sensitive information and released it to the public without my interviewee knowing…hell, someone else entirely could do this kind of thing and factor me and my responses into it as well.
The other thing that would make research like that a bit challenging is determining how genuine people’s answers are, although if I was conducting more formal interviews or putting out a more formal questionnaire—well I did attempt something like the latter before—that might change a bit. Still, there’d be something worthwhile in how people responded regardless, and conclusions you could draw from them, even if that conclusion is ultimately that they didn’t take the line of inquiry seriously
That’s true, most people are anonymous on these types of sites. Research can be done on anonymous data with certain expectations, such as having a low level of engagement with users. A researcher who has a high level could direct the data in their favour, and it impacts consent from an ethical standpoint. It ultimately depends on the approval of the ethics committee your research is affiliated with. An issue is that it’s highly unlikely that researchers who have a fairly high level of engagement and are anonymous are going to admit that. Another issue, as you pointed out, is the truthfulness of the data you collect. Things like this is why I view some peer-reviewed research with skepticism.