I know I'll get a lot of hate for saying this and I dont give two fucks about the ppl coming here insulting me or whatever. I don't like the fact that the MC has one night stands. Never really liked characters who keep using their body to satisfy their desires instead of having a little bit of restrain. It really disgusts me to no point. Idk man, feels like they dont really respect themselves if anyone can use their body as they want. I also feel the same way with MLs or tops. Like plz sir keep your dick in your pants and go touch some grass. Ppl nowadays be okay with this shit and maybe its okay for you guys but it'll never be okay for me. Also I would like to add that despite it bothering me a lot I would never bother or insult someone about things like that in real life. I just wanted to rant a little bit to be honest I'll continue the manhwa and read the novel because it genuinely seems good but itll stay as an ick for me throughout the whole story.
Lmao if you want someone who's a virgin then find one dont go complaining for something that you have the ability to choose. And when it comes to ML in Dash he's actually a virgin if thats such a problem for you. And actually genuine question whats the problem with being a virgin until your 30s? Is it that big of a deal if you've never had sex? Ppl make it to be such a big thing my god
Ohmygosh, I think there should be a different flavor for everyone. No sure life is a one size fits all situation anyway. I definitely don’t like my FICTIONAL mangas to be steeped in personal preferences to suit all readers. If a reader doesn’t like an MC to sleep around there are plenty of virginal MC to pick from. If the ML is a manwhole I don’t see why the MC cannot be one too.
Also, this saving your virginity for that one special man is rooted in misogyny that fujoshis have brought into yaoi. As a woman getting my cherry popped wasn’t magical it hurt and the sex wast even worth it. I am sure many women have the same or similar experiences. Stop romanticizing being a virgin as something wonderful. It really fcks up the reality of the experience. I can see why girls/women cry their first time. If a man experience this his first time, I guarantee there there a lot more men being virgins. And sex after some experience will only get you to enjoy sex. You know what you like and what your proclivities are after you have been exposed to what makes you cum and not. It’s a fluke that you get your cherry popped and have you feel good about it to enjoy it.
I just want to precise something I've said on my comment. I don't like it both ways. I don't like it when a bottom is a whore AND I also dont like when a top is a whore too. Same when it comes to heterosexual relationship. I agree with you on the fact that there should be all types of manga for everyone. Thats why I would have dropped this if the manhwa wasnt so interesting. Also wanted to clarify something. I said I did not like when characters have ONE NIGHT STANDS. Didnt say I didnt like them dating other ppl. I dont like them opening up their body for anyone to take. If they are dating someone and they make love I'm good with that. But if they go out of their way to get every STIs possible then it aint it for me.
Also, I truly think being a virgin is a good thing. I dont see it as being mysogynist. To keep yourself protected until someone who will be with your for the rest of your life comes is something I believe is truly wonderful. Whether your first time will be painful or not, all of your other times will be with that special someone and together the both of you will learn what each one of you like. At the end of the day, this is not even about having pleasure on your first time this is just about having self-respect. This is what I believe anyway.
Calling a whore to people who sleep around isn't it tbh. Even tho fictional characters or not. Honestly if it consensual, people can do whatever they want, and it is not for you to judge. Having self respect, can be for you to not having relationship, but that's your own criteria, and tbh you sound a hella lot judgemental towards other people's life. That tbh their choices don't matter to you. If you don't like turn around and get out of thier asses. I am sick of tired of people judging and insulting people for living their lives as they please.
It's not too late to delete this comment bud
It's also not too late to STOP projecting your values onto others - even fictional characters
People can have sex and still have self respect
You're here today because your parents did it and they probably didn't "save themselves" for each other
The MC isn't a whore, he's just a regular person who has desires and needs like anyone else
Thats why I only talked about characters and not real life ppl though it might come as if I'm judging them, I'm not. After all, what ppl do in their every day life doesnt concern me but since reading manhwas is something that do impact me in a way, I wanted to share my way of thinking. I know many ppl would not agree with me and I dont really mind tbh we're in a society where everything is okay now so I guess I would be the bad guy when I dont agree with a majority of ppl
I'm happy and proud to say that my parents did "save" themselves for each other. It might not seem that way to you but some ppl do have values that they want to respect very much. Also, I dont want to say too much otherwise some ppl might feel as if they are being targeted by my words -which is not the case tbh. You can do whatever you want in your life who am I to stop you. I only expressed my way of thinking towards the MC. And lets be honest, a whore is someone who sleeps around with many ppl. How is MC different from that? Maybe the term was too harsh but it is the truth
Since this is fiction, it doesnt really matter if I give my opinion right? After all this is "literally fiction". Its not something that exists so it doesnt really change your life no? Also why are YOU getting so offended over someone's comment on fictional characters who doesnt adhear to your way of thinking?
I'm sorry but how are y'all even mad about this rn. What purity? Girl take a good hard look at all the yaoi you read, purity left your building long ago.
I should also add both you and OOP have been calling ML a whore? Y'all must be too young to know what the word actually means. The dude engages in sex with people he's not married to, he's not being paid for it nor is it his work, just because someone sleeps with someone they aren't married to doesn't make them a whore. This is also an intentionally derogatory term, and y'all suggesting casual sex makes you a whore is insulting many men or women in this comments section directly whether y'all meant to or not.
I think it's fine if you only want to digest content with virgin characters, as others have said that's your choice, but do not stoop to degrading others for your own primitive and religious worldviews. Grow up and be better
Are you by chance.. 9 years old?
Because this really is an insane mindset
I don't sleep around because I don't particularly like sex, but I DEFINITELY don't judge single adults who do.
If someone isn't in a committed relationship, they can do whatever they please. It's terrible that'd you'd think lesser of them for it
I mean this sincerely, GROW UP
If you think FCKIN around without love whatever is totally NORMAL.. Then suit yourself.. And for fck sake.. who even mention about irl here. I never involved what I read to irl events.. SINCE I CLEARLY KNOW WHAT I READ TO WHAT FICTION IS..
Sure mate you can call us old school whatever, since we mostly have preference for reading the (saving purity/virginity to the one they love whatever) And yes we aware that this thing is mostly exist on FICTION anyway, since we all know that the real world is a fkn mess and full of Bullcraps. And yeah dude, I already read a LOT of Porn Fictions to be one of someone who have purity mind. I'm fkn AWARE.
BUT HOW ABOUT YOU??? ARE U AWARE THAT IT'S YOU WHO SHOULD GROW UP? Cuz right now, it's you who trying to push ur BELIEVE AND RELIGIOUS WHATEVER sht is it u said. That for you all, FKN AROUND IS TOTALLY FINE UNLESS NO LOVE IS INVOLVED. You can go ahead think its totally normal, BUT DON'T U DARE DRAG US TOO, to what u considered RIGHT. DON'T TRY TO CHANGE OUR PREFERENCE AND PERSPECTIVE on what we read just bc we don't accept what u all considered NORMAL. So please if u excuse me, I don't have time for all this shit.. As I need to read lot's of porn fiction and FAP TO THEM.
DUDEEEEE.. PLEASE STOP, U DIDN'T GET ME.. DON'T U TRY CORRECT ME, WHEN DID I EVER MENTION THOSE BULLCRAP OF IRL PEOPLE ANYWAY..
DEGRADING TO OTHERS??? HAHAHAHA BROO, IF THEY LIKE TO SLEEP AROUND I DON'T GIVE A FCK, I WAS TOTALLY TALKING ABOUT THE MC ON THIS WEBTOON.. (WHICH U ALL SHOULD RESPECT THAT SOME OF US READERS DOESN'T LIKE THAT KIND BEHAVIOR SO FAR, BUT IG UR SO BUSY TRYING TO CONVINCED US TO BELIEVE WHAT U ALL CONSIDERED NORMAL).. IF U THAT WORRIED ABOUT THOSE IRL PEOPLE WHO FK AROUND THEIR DCK AND HOLE AND RELATES AND GOT HURT BY OUR PREFERENCE CHOOSES, WHY DON'T U JUST YOU GO CRY ABOUT THEM THEN.. CUZ I LITERALLY DON'T GAF ABOUT THEIR LIFE CHOOSES.
JUST PLS DON'T DRAG US, yA cry babies.. ಠ_ಠ)
If you didn't gaf about their life choices you wouldn't have said anything at all, which would've been the reasonable thing to do. Yes, there's an obvious distinction between irl and fiction, but you need to understand the fiction is based on real life, and demeaning the actions of these characters demean people irl too.
No one is trying to convince you to go out and have one night stands, they're saying there's nothing wrong if other people do. By the language you use, you show hostility towards those that do.
You call others cry babies because you don't even want to try to understand the others point of view, which is why I guessed you were still a child
"But you need to understand that fiction is based on real life,"
HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FCK, WHO WOULD BASED THE FICTION TO REAL LIFE NOW. DO WE HAVE OMEGAVERSE IRL WHERE A MAN CAN GET PREGNANT NOW?
ONLY A BIRD BRAIN READERS LIKE U WOULD CONNECT WHAT THE FICTION THEY READ TO WHAT IRL IS. JUST BC U BELIEVE THE FICTION U READ CAN SOMEHOW RELATE TO IRL IT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN REFLECT TO THE REAL WORLD ITSELF. UNLESS UR TOO DUMB TO SEE THE LINE BETWEEN THEM.
GET A LIFE GURL.. THERE'S NO VAMPIRE, MERMAIDS, NOR SUPERPOWER IN THE REAL WORLD. WHY DON'T U TRY CONNECT THOSE TOO IRL, CUZ U SO GOOD AT CONVINCING PEOPLE THAT SLEEPING AROUND SHOULD BE NORMALIZED ANYWAY. ( ̄∀ ̄)
And yes.. if we talk about irl... I DO show hostility towards those people who sleep around.. You ain't wrong mate, u can all say "It's their body so why care blahblah yeah yeah etc etc.." That's why I said idgaf about them. Cuz it's literally NOT my business. And tho we felt its dump, I STILL DO RESPECT THAT DECISION THEY MAKE. It their business after all, and we not in place to judge if that's what their life chooses, idc. ‾︿‾ )
But girl... what different here is it's literally my BUSINESS on what I read on FICTION.. Cuz we hate that behavior, AND THE PROBLEM HERE IS, YOU ALL CAN'T ACCEPT and respect our decision. Which who tf is the one acting as a child now here?? Cuz u all so busy on keeping & convincing us to change our perspective that its normal and we should accept it like u all do. That's why I said just stop, cuz u literally can't understand us too. Our PERSPECTIVE CAN NEVER MATCH IF U ALL DOESN'T KNOW WHAT RESPECT IS.
I'm convinced you're incapable of logical thoughts - you don't understand how a work of fiction takes real life issues and mannerisms of real life humans?
You're also contradicting yourself. You saying you don't care about what people do because that's their life, yet you admit you show hostility towards them because of how they live their life?
I'll finish off by saying, you're asking people to "accept and respect" your bigoted view. You're basically saying "Hey! Let me berate you, and you have to smile and like it!" Like no, you're being rude to others. Would you ask people to "accept and respect" racist views? You wouldnt, because suddenly it applies to you. That is why I had said you lacked empathy. Again, try to think for another's perspective and you might have a chance of understanding what I'm saying
I think I should explain it to you in short words cuz ur lil brain can never keep up on what I'm pointing out.
WHAT LACK OF EMPATHY U SAYING NOW.. EMPATHY ON PEOPLE WHO SLEEP AROUND? Pfft.. YEA SURE, EMPATHY MY ASS..
To shorten it u lil cutie maggot. Sleeping around without love is just a way of SELF PLEASURE and people who do that are nothing but a pleasure-seeking person, sensually self-indulgent, Hedonistic etc. and so on. Its the same with ALCOHOL/DRUGS both gives pleasure to humans, that's why people seek on them. And u should know, that NOT everyone liked alcohol, and so, some show HOSTILITY towards drunk people. It's totally normal. That's why u should understand too, that NOT EVERYONE liked the idea of sleeping around. Since that act is nothing more than a selfish desire. And you all should accept that fact.
If you still can't get what im saying. Then yeah. Ur nothing but a SELF CENTERED PERSON.
You're not wrong, it is true from a psychological stand point. The social norm is shifting towards that's calling it "female liberation" like we need it. No we don't, being a man whore is not a good thing. It never was a good condemnation, to have, the same with being a whore.
But with the rise of OF(Olny Fans) and other ways to profit off of sex it's become more popular venue. It's bad for society. Sure porn isn't a bad thing. But it has its place in society. It's not something to be revered and publicized. Sure we can have sites like this but again it's not to be in your face kinda thing.
But again society is changing and not for the best. It leads to the break down of how old is ok for porn to be watch or for how old is it OK for that to be happening. Slippery sloops are not a misnomer, they happen. It's not BL or Yuri, it's all sex. From Gay to Striaght.
Its not about being conservative or liberal about it, it's knowing that it leads to the end. And the end is age restrictions are gone. And we are starting to see that.
Just 2 years ago, they lowered the age of consent to 12 years old in sexual instances in a state in the USA. That is not good.
So yes having a sleep around mentality is not the greatest thing for any society. It's ok to want to get pleasure, with safe ways. It's more normal or it should be more normal to sleep with a lover then to do one night stands. And it's more healthier to.
At least that is what studies have shown.
Sorry for interrupting this conversation.
Both of you are entitled to your opinions. How bout you keep it peacefully and with out name calling. Make it a good clean debate on it. Respect each other in the conversation.
Can someone make fanfiction avec Ian and Yugun those two are so cute and I need more content from them or Ill probably die
Btw avec is with. I dont why my brain suddenly switched to french
j'ai meme pas remarqué
Mdrr on est trop habitué a switch du français a l'anglais