MsEpic's Topics (166)

Yeah she is a reincarnator too

... sorry, but a perverted guy makes a disgusting look and obvious unsavoury remark towards your daughter- do you not get mad and consider slugging him? Or do you just watch and wait for something despicable to happen so that you ‘morally right’ and ‘reasonable’.

Course I know this wasn’t the situation (⌒▽⌒) but I felt this was an accurate example that you might be able to understand better.

Also I think it’s appropriate to take their words “were just protecting you from that monster, don’t worry your safe now” or something like that, to be very sarcastic, as in -‘yeah don’t worry your pretty little moneybag heads about it, we wouldn’t let a huge potential profit get damaged’

Also I think the reason the author has only made them mildly unappealing, so that you can still side with them like this, is because they were gearing up to have the king seem the absolute worst and might even have them come back in as decent people who regret what they were going to do

So one person in your group says something, now the entire group deserves to be killed? Drake doesn't seem like the guy who'd allow that to happen. Whatever just looking from their perspective, if a monster comes charging at you and was about kill you, your instincts to protect yourself is automatic, if you had training and power, of course, you kill it as quickly as possible. It was act of self-defense. My point at least find out if the adventurers are truly evil before killing them off, the whole could be a misunderstanding for all he knew.

Oh and the king totally deserve to be wiped out.

Then you normally kill people when they for apparently ‘no reason’ come charging at you?

If I feel like my life is at risk, yes. That's how self-defense works if someone charges at you for apparently no reason and feel like your life is at risk, then you have every right to kill that sucker dead. You won't even get arrested for it if you can prove it was self-defense.
What are you like 10 years old? I feel like I'm talking to someone with no real-life experience.

Oh really, well that’s fine, but as you clearly pointed out earlier, he had the power to ‘defend’ him self, so obviously could have done so with out killing him in one hit, he was strong enough that he could have held back without worrying for his life.
And if your going to bring up self defence then at least know why that kind of legislation was created - killing is NEVER justified, your still a murder, the reason that killing in self defence isn’t as punishable by law is because when in extreme cases of danger it’s not your fault that your mind can’t act logically so that you end up killing the assailant. Or your so desperate and weak that that’s the only way to deal with them.
Do any of those situations fit what happened? Mr 12yr old?

Are you kidding me, Chappi was possibly going to Kill them over some words, and the same can be said about the MC but I guess it's ok to kill someone for revenge like what MC did.

I agree, killing is never justified (I never said it was) even in self-defense or to avenge someone like what the MC did, as you said, you'll still be a murderer and make you look desperate and week. He didn't have to kill Drake but he did. He should've to beat the shit out of them to near death and explain that the monsters are his friends and this village is under his protection then send them off. And then realize chappi is alive because he's a necromancer for reason.

PS I'm a girl.

Ahah sorry, I was wondering why you added the ps note in but I actually was assuming you were already, since the majority of the people here are, I would just have used the Mr part for anyone.
Yeah I’m going to give up now because I’d rather read more manga than argue more on this sooooooo
Thx for the good discussion... kinda (≧∀≦) ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Um no you have no right to kill them dead you have the right to use just and equal force back...at least thats the law here, like say someone charges you with their bare hands and you pull out a machine gun...that not self defense that overkill. Also...its pretty obvious they are all crazy arrogant and stupid heroes that are deserving of what they got, i mean...come on they killed first are you saying you wouldn't go crazy nuts on people if you saw they killed a beloved pet?

Also he wasn't killing him over 'some words' as had already been explained in the manga, humans kidnapped elves for slavery (with little hidden agenda of sexual slavery) they treated all demi humans as slaves so like...the first thing some giant powerful s rank adventurer says is that and you expect them a HIDDEN ELVIN VILLAGE to think that they shouldn't protect themselves?

Also...almost everything you are saying here is completely blown apart by the fact that this is not a word that revolves around modern world logic, so killing is justified and yes he did have to beat him to death and now the entire village could be wiped out because he didn't kill the other two so...like mute point aye.

Fuck this manga I don't care anymore.

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I can understand why, this is some horrify stuff :

Ok so this has nothing to do with feminism but to do with mob theory are you even reading this

(shrug ) I thought I might like it

yikes bud, sounds like someone doesn't know what feminism is...
Also ignoring the "feminism is war on all men statement" why are you so averse to the idea of a manga illustrating the "mob mentality" in a bad lighting? I mean I understand that it can seem like artificial padding if done in a shallow way, but this manga hasn't even really kicked off (so the development of this perspective hasn't really shown yet) so why so disapointed?

At least when it's the monsters who are the baddies it's far more interesting how small insignificant humans can fight dangerous monsters using ingenuity, skills, and teamwork even if the humans are op. It's just personal preference I guess.

Just an opinion but to me killing humans is like killing Kids in a barrel, at first it's good for shock value but after a while, it becomes like a one-sided massacre the feeling gives me is like argh not this again. Don't get me wrong killing in self-defense and defending others is fine but even after the enemies gave up he still showed them no mercy, evil or not they could've had families what if they want vengeance. He's no better off now when he was killing monsters and orphaning their kids. I guess that's what really irks me. But it's to be expected in a human turn demon king manga.

Well, in almost all stories that monster are bad humans are good, humans still kills monsters that are good or only following orders!!!

I feel the troupe of humans being the bad is refreshing, but many people hate it because people don't like stories of himans being killed!!!

Also, monsters have families!!!

I prefer the stories where both humans and monsters are both good and bad. this one makes ALL humans one-sided-ly bad and that is irritating. If you want a story where monsters are good then there has to be good and bad on both sides.

That's why I hate this. It's like all humans are bad and demihuman are all good. And that fat sack of shit kills his own kind when he could just as easily restrain or knock them out.

Well because humans are greedy creature.

I'll say, it's true most human these days are more evil than true monster

I agree...though we try to be altruistic, humans are in essence greedy and selfish. Now that all depends on the amount, and whether we can rein it in. Also, the way the humans act in the manga seem to portray the way colonists were in the Americas where they assumed they were the superior race and etc.

that can be applied to demi-humans, every single one of them being this kind and accepting is just bad writing

IKR they over hype the humans as bad guys while overly made the monster sweet, kind excepting, and lovable. Can they portray that some monsters love the taste of human flesh which why so many adventurers fight them? That Shows that evil can exist on both sides. And personally, the ML is a frickin idiot, no wonder he relates to those dumb monsters.

You mean a police to arrest the bastards who toruted and killed him, eat other people, and are a sadistic bitch ruler, right?

Them too, all are no good including the MC.

Has the MC hurt anyone who wasn't either 1. out to kill him or 2. evil as shit and deserved death?

adults are one thing But kids, even if they're the sons of that bastard, sorry that's deal-breaker for me.

I get what you're saying, but some kids are just as bad as their parents if not worse.

Kids should be punished, not killed. MC is no different than the evil people he's killing if he's inflicting pain to innocent people. We really didn't get to see much of the twins and how they acted.

I read back and actually yeah they're pretty messed up, I still wished he didn't kill them though, they still had many years left to grow and mature to decent people. But oh well ig.

The twins are messed up. If they love hurting small animals at that age, imagine how they'll be when they get older. But I also think it wasn't the kids fault. They were raised by insane parents. If they were raised differently it could be a different story.

Did we all seem to forget that they voluntarily ate people and knew about the fact? They may be kids but cannibalism does some weird stuff to people's mental state (especially if they are aware). So they were just going to continue the cycle.

But still, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth I find them to be victims of circumstances.

These kids were sadistic freaks who watched their parents eat human flesh and wanted to eat human flesh, too. Sorry, but those kinds of kids I"m okay abolishing.

They are victims of their parents, but I get what you mean tho

Problem is, the sociopathic behavior was already well established into their characters by this point. There is little chance of redemption. Makes sense to kill them so they don't continue to perpetuate the Hannibal behavior.

Point of the story is the Hero blackening into a villain for revenge. Don't think the twins could be redeemed. They were raised in a twisted environment to be sociopaths. Their gleeful torture and murder of animals and implied humans demonstrated their already degenerate characters. Children ccan be just as dark and twisted as adults. There are a shocking number of murders committed by young children from normal upbringings. These are not children that could be trusted in society. At best they would be institutionalized.

Ok, Child soldiers should be killed according to your logic. Who cares if they'd been brainwash since birth, death will be better suited for them,. Let's agree to disagree.

Then, explain to me about what if kids who are under 15 years old that killed lots people, but released shortly because they are kids/underage but after the released, was caught again for killing more? You still think because they are kids they shall be forgiven? I say better kill them for the sake of other.
What if you are a judge, and you released a kid who killed his younger sibling, then that kid who got released, killed his neighbors little friends as well? If that will be the case, I believe your name would be in the 'People MC Gonna Kill' Lists.

I not saying he should let them go free unpunished, but kept as a slave, or something teach them right from wrong, give some form of punishment befitting for them at the same time rehabilitation. But I see you're point, it'll be too much hassle, we should start killing child-soldiers, children of ISIS and other terrorist groups, cartels, and so on. F**k the civilized route. I'm guessed l'm just wired that way to be protective of kids.