Is such a good character. He's litteraly the star. He's sweet, attentive, nice... I wish Cirrus would open up to him and get the support he deserves to heal. He keeps seeing him as a rival, when he should be seen as the ally and ultimate good guy that he is.
Skylar simply doesn't have what it takes to help Cirrus and support him right now. Maybe eventually, but not right now. He's not capable of seeing what Cirrus needs/wants from him... Or choose not to. He's also way too reactive, agressive and violent to offer anything to help. It isn't necessarily his fault, it's a result of his own issues... But still a problem.
I just don't see how someone who is dependant + victim of violence and SA can be with someone who is avoidant + agressive and violent.
Feels bad.
I am more than willing to let the author cook... But I feel like we're 22 chapters in and it's not getting better. MC's personality changes depending what the author wants for Seo-An. Strong and confident one second. Doormat the next. Make it Make sense. MC is getting worse each chapter and Seo-An always gets what he wants.
22 chapters in and there's no progress. We're going in circle... Seon-An forcing him to agree once again because MC can't grow a pair.
I dislike Seon-An, but I will agree about THAT at least.
I am under the impression that they will... At this point, whatever happens I won't be happy.
1. If they have sex, it's icky.
2. If MC changes his mind it's frustrating because he should've said No time and time again.
3. Someone stops them somehow like they walk into someone that interrupts before they can go anywhere. That's the only solution I find... Even then, I'd feel frustrated because MC feels like he goes along with anything whenever "it's plot convenient" for Seo-An benefits.
... I still believe they're going to have sex.
Copium theory; Seo-An stops and realizes he's going about it all wrong... But I am no hope for him at this point sadly ahah
I can't stand Haeyool either tbh. He relies on everyone else and blames everyone else. He acts like MC owes it to him when he suddenly confesses and guilt trip him by saying he should've left him with his sponsor. What? ML is an ass, but he didn't lie when he said MC is just being nice to everyone. Asking him to come home with him felt extremely manipulative after all of that.
MC and ML really need to talk... Like really talk. The misunderstanding between them is killing me. Both think the other doesn't like them. Seo-An doesn't understand why MC stopped talking to him. MC thinks Seo-An just fucked around with him for fun. Come on now!
Haeyool is not a likeable character either. Yes he’s the victim in some circumstance (him and his sponsor) but that doesn’t make him the victim in the mc life. The mc doesn’t owe him his feelings and Haeyool guilt tripping the mc is not right, he knows the mc is too nice for his own good and try to take advantage of that. Now with that being said I’m not saying everyone else is a saint that’s a different discussion. Us as a reader can sympathize with Haeyool but that doesn’t mean we got to like him too.
Trying to even put them on similar ground of problematic is truly delusional.
The guy was nearly raped seconds ago and dealing with rejection. Was he manipulative? He was definitely. Was he guilt tripping? Yes. Is it problematic? Of course although it can be understood to some degree seeing the whole context of the situation. TO SOME DEGREE. It's still problematic behaviour.
But on the other hand we have sexual assaulter who just sent someone to get raped out of jealousy.
I agree, the ML is the worst but I think Haeyool comes at second because he has shown his own obsession and possessive behaviour towards the mc just like the ML Haeyool also has thrown himself on the mc, I don’t think it’s delusional or disgusting when both character hasn’t shown any sign of likeableness.
Like I said Haeyool being a victim in his own narrative is a different discussion. Him being a victim doesn’t single out his toxic behaviour towards the mc. Idk how clouded u can be to not see how he comes at second from the ML In terms or behaviour and actions. But yes let’s not waste each others time since we both have different opinions.
Gosh ur truly illiterate bro am I saying the ML is a fucking angel? Did I say Haeyool is equal to the ML in terms of toxicity? I’m discussing their behaviours and actions towards the mc what’s not clicking bud? But if u wanna keep talking go ahead I’m done talking to someone who can’t read basic English.
Asshole might not have been strong enough word, but they are both problematic.
My first point was about Haeyool being problematic. We already know Seo-An is problematic. It's old news, but Haeyool started to showed his true colors. Seo-An being toxic DOESN'T mean Haeyool cannot be toxic either. Haeyool a victim of SA doesn't make it okay to gaslight someone and manipulate them. Why the fuck did you think he wanted MC to spend the night? Both of them are manipulative and profit from MC being too nice. My line about Seo-An being an asshole was regarding the conversation HE had with Haeyool where he warned him that MC treated everyone this way... He was being an asshole toward him, but he was right. He's not special. MC does the same with him. I am sorry, but being problematic doesn't mean the character is wrong by default either.
The sponsor is not MC's responsability.
No one was saying Seo-An was a good guy either. Calm down lol
I wouldn't have any problem with your message if it wasn't so obviously one sided and biased.
I have no problem in comprehending that someone can be a victim and also manipulative. I emphasized it time after time here.... But your take and selectiveness on the chapter was just quite embarrassing.
Seo-An isn't merely problematic. He is sexual offender, serial one at this point and now sending rapist after someone else made it to the list.
Can he get even lower? Is there any bottom for his evil self? Some limit for the likes of him?
It's a freaking Manhwa isn't not that serious and I don't have to care or comment about Seo-An or him sending a possible rapist to the other dude. It's not real. I don't have to comment about a fictional character being shitty every chapter when he's being shit for 20 chapters. You know damn well the author is going to send MC and ML together on their happy way. Get over it. It's fiction. You have to find enjoyment elsewhere in the story or stop reading.
I like MC, he's cute, the drawings are pretty and I want to know who kissed who in the classrom and why, I am staying.
If you can't handle it, move on. There's plenty of other manhwa that are unproblematic and just very sweet to read. It's pathetic at this point.
I'm crying. How you turned the point from your biased and one-sided comment to me having problem with handling this piece of webtoon. Please. I'm wheezing.
I've seen your all modus operandi for years. Always being very analytic and alert around all the pOtEnTiAl (who everyone knows, not stand a chance even) rivals (even worse if they are women, oh dear then the shit fest is real) but suddenly not having the same energy towards... Literal criminal, psychopaths of MLs.
Suddenly their behaviour is obviously toxic and it doesn't even have to be commented on or analysed.
These mfs don't need any analysis obviously. And being called out on their toxic actions.
Smh please no one asks for more than a little bit of objectivity. A little bit of fairness.
You love analysing characters' doings and chapters? Great. But don't be so selective. Because it looks distasteful.
You see the speck of sawdust in one characters's eye, but suddenly the plank in the others' is not even worthy commenting on. The selectiveness is just mind-blowing and oh well manipulative.
Anyone can point me in the direction of the Novel for this? I love it so much with all its gaming elements. I might as well read the whole thing!
https://wooksteahouse.com/variant/the-guild-member-next-door/
It's not that much further ahead of the manhwa translations though
https://wooksteahouse.com/variant/the-guild-member-next-door/
Here is the novel link. Some chapters are locked but I think the release schedule isn't bad. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~