Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 7:12 pm

Personally I just dont care about them being step brothers and fucking because they aren’t blood related. What I do have a problem with is so many mangas and manhuas use misinterpreting a characters actions, lack of communication, or miscommunication being the entire reason why characters are unhappy/ it’s also the reason why it takes forever to reach a somewhat happy ending.

The older brother and younger brother should have communicated better as children- Also the parents aren’t completely innocent because they should have seen that their children weren’t getting along.

So basically years of the older brother and younger brother not communicating properly leads us to our current story of the douche bag older brother and the creepy obsessive younger brother <_<.

If my theory about why this story is called placebo is an earlier post is correct I can’t exactly see how this will reach a happy ending. Well that’s not completely true, it will just involve some rude awakenings, and both characters having to seriously open up to each other emotional <_< I just don’t know

Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 7:05 pm

Too many people misinterpreted my last post so I’m just going to simplify it and explain it in better detail.


I have a theory that the author gave this the title “placebo” because at some point the author is going to reveal that the older brother was never really hypnotized and just played along. People keep misinterpreting what I’m saying I’m not making a judgement call on the ethics of the so called older brother being in an altered mental state and engaging in sexual relations- I’m saying the whole scenario of being able to hypnotize someone that hates you to sleep with you is complete fiction not possible in the real world. ( FOR CLARIFICATION in the real world CRIMINAL court cases that involve sexual misconduct with hypnotism are between Doctors and their patients which all of those cases involve some level
Of trust between doctor and patient and all
Of this happening over a relatively lengthy amount of time NEVER EVER a case where on the first day a doctor was able to immediately hypnotize his patient and engage in sexual activity)

WHAT I AM QUESTIONING IS whether the author gave their work the title of “PLACEBO” because in the end we are going to find out the younger brother never really hypnotized the older brother, the older brother just played along because it’s an easier pill to swallow when you can blame your actions on something else instead of admitting your deepest and darkest desires —— aka it’s easier for the Older brother to blame that he was hypnotized by his younger brother than to that admit out loud his true feelings about his step
Brother he would never want to admit.

You are free to agree or disagree, what Are your thoughts? I also remembered this author has a 3 chapter manhua with the same title BUT that particular manhua already showed us the Hollywood hypnotism trope and I seriously hope this isn’t just the same story using the Hollywood hypnotism trope and just making more chapters…………

    son of thors November 19, 2023 7:21 pm

    Oh? I actually find this interesting. Although a bit far fetched but who knows. Maybe both of the characters are just really that far gone

    †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈). November 20, 2023 5:08 am

    Then then what about mother and father? Dod they play along too?

    son of thors November 20, 2023 5:18 am
    Then then what about mother and father? Dod they play along too? †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈).

    This is an alternative universe from the side story from before. So in this story, none of that happened. It's on it's own

    †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈). November 20, 2023 7:06 am
    This is an alternative universe from the side story from before. So in this story, none of that happened. It's on it's own son of thors

    Ohh that good to know thank you for tellin me (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ coz that would be fuk up if that really happen.

    una November 20, 2023 11:23 pm

    oh my god i never even thought abt that....

    son of thors November 21, 2023 1:46 am
    Ohh that good to know thank you for tellin me (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ coz that would be fuk up if that really happen. †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈).

    Same that side story was so fucked up

    AWinterWonderLand November 22, 2023 5:25 pm
    Same that side story was so fucked up son of thors

    That wasn't a side. It was a short story which this one is based off of....

    AWinterWonderLand November 22, 2023 5:26 pm

    Wow .... hatred turned into super suppressed subconscious desires?!?

    son of thors November 22, 2023 6:47 pm
    That wasn't a side. It was a short story which this one is based off of.... AWinterWonderLand

    Yeah basically. I just don't know what else to call it besides an AU

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:06 pm

    I hope it’s an alternate universe because the thought of the younger son hypnotizing his father- when his father is the original owner of the hypnotizing book is just stretching things a little too much for my liking. That’s just taking this story even further away from reality

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:27 pm
    Wow .... hatred turned into super suppressed subconscious desires?!? AWinterWonderLand

    I am so happy I see you commenting and that you understand what a placebo is as well as the limits of what can be done with hypnotism!!!!!

    AWinterWonderLand November 24, 2023 6:28 pm
    I hope it’s an alternate universe because the thought of the younger son hypnotizing his father- when his father is the original owner of the hypnotizing book is just stretching things a little too much for m... Kuroitenshi17

    What's furthest from reality is that hypnosis even works in the first place. Hypnosis only works w participant's willingness to be hypnotized. That is, it is a consensual act that is done w/ their knowledge. Nobody just randomly gets hypnotized.

    AWinterWonderLand November 24, 2023 6:31 pm
    I am so happy I see you commenting and that you understand what a placebo is as well as the limits of what can be done with hypnotism!!!!! Kuroitenshi17

    Oh thank you!

    How funny!!! I literally JUST commented on your comment?!! About the thing you've just complimented me on. Hahaha well, thank you. I'm glad you're glad I know what I'm talking about. Hahaha.

    Well, I'm glad we both know what placebos and hypnosis is all about! It takes a lot of work to explain it to the lay person.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:43 pm
    Oh thank you! How funny!!! I literally JUST commented on your comment?!! About the thing you've just complimented me on. Hahaha well, thank you. I'm glad you're glad I know what I'm talking about. Hahaha.Well, ... AWinterWonderLand

    You have no idea my original post, people were Making completely absurd assumptions. Along the lines of saying I was ok “with the older brother being raped and that he wasn’t able to give proper consent” when all I was saying was unless this is fictional hypnosis, the younger brother isn’t actually being raped. As well as someone painfully trying to use examples of people being scammed out of their money is proof that fictional Hollywood hypnosis exists <_<

    AWinterWonderLand November 25, 2023 4:15 am
    You have no idea my original post, people were Making completely absurd assumptions. Along the lines of saying I was ok “with the older brother being raped and that he wasn’t able to give proper consent” ... Kuroitenshi17

    But Hollywood is fiction. I'm sorry. What?!?
    Yeah, I saw that post and half the time I'm tired when reading or writing responses so meh. That explanation doesn't make sense at all. Ppl get scammed because they believe in the lie, nothing to do w/ hypnosis....smh. well, hypnosis works if a person believes in it enough to be hypnotized, so it's similar, but they're not making the decision base on hypnosis. It's the brain's inability to sort out what's real/logical/probable so they buy into the lie. People who are older who can't make correct assessment or people who are gullible. I guess you can make an argument for both as a mind game, but it's not hypnosis.

Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 6:21 pm

Chowon has commented on kyungsoo having a big penis for a Beta - so why couldn’t kyungsoo and Chowon have a baby together. Dojin the ex husband has developed alpha perfume sure it’s not as strong BUT it should have some sort of effect during Chowon’s heat to give some aide. Why did Chowon have to use a random alpha sperm donor to get pregnant? - I could understand if kyungsoo was shooting blanks but the whole premise that just because he’s a beta some how his genetic material aka sperm won’t work- if the author wants to make some stretches I’m down BUT make it make sense. I’ve read other Omegaverse manga and they explain that alphas have like bigger genitals but if Bin is already packing and Chowon a dominant omega we saw that Chiwon was visible impressed with kyungsoo’s meat stick - so what was the issue? Also I was feeling extremely bad for kyungsoo that the author decided to create that image that Bin is completely useless during chowon’s heat.

Heesoo and Dojin side story- At time where right now scientist in Japan has been successful with two male mice have been able to produce offspring ( with the assistance of a surrogate) why force this couples conflict about offspring? The author already showed the readers an image of Heesoo’s and Masters child why not give the readers what they want. Creating a random conflict and have them fight about a child when you know your readers want to see Masters and Heesoo baby since you already teased us with it like come on 0.0. If Heesoo and Master are suppose to represent gay men- like instead of adoption they totally have the opportunity of implanting a fertilized egg with Heesoo’s DNA and a fertilized egg with Masters DNA and have twins using A surrogate- yes the twins have different fathers but at the least the mother will ensure that the twins are at least half brothers- the forcing adoption situation I only hate it because it was so vague we don’t even get to see what the child looks like- it was just rushed and made me feel unsettled.

In a fictional world where an omega male is able to bear children and have a womb- for some reason the idea of using science to help Heesoo and Dojin make a baby is Preposterous

If the author wants to give us some realism considering this is a manhua made in Korea if Heesoo and Dojin represent a gay couple ……. Gay couples can not adopt children in Korea, the gay couple would have to leave Korea for a period of time and adopt from another country <_<

Maybe it’s just me but it feels like the author just wants the main couple to have a happy ending and the other two couples have to have random conflicts just because?

    .(^^) November 25, 2023 1:35 pm

    betas can't impregnate omegas in this omegaverse only alphas can, also the perfume that dojun made was mostly for the pheromones its doesnt change their basic dna of a beta or an omega.

    .(^^) November 25, 2023 1:38 pm
    betas can't impregnate omegas in this omegaverse only alphas can, also the perfume that dojun made was mostly for the pheromones its doesnt change their basic dna of a beta or an omega. .(^^)

    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .

    a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids
    a male beta and a male omega cant have kids

    Kuroitenshi17 November 25, 2023 3:15 pm
    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids a male beta and a male omega cant have kids .(^^)

    I understand what you are saying but it’s not like an absolute. Kyungsoo and Chowon kept trying to have a baby- if they knew betas can’t impregnate omegas why did they try so much? Basically I’m asking wtf was wrong in that situation because the author didn’t give us anything really. I know male betas can’t get pregnant- I was saying in terms of science in this fictional world the author should have found so magical way to make it happen. Like take beta stem cells and stimulate it to become eggs cells

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 1:08 pm
    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids a male beta and a male omega cant have kids .(^^)

    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no?

    .(^^) December 1, 2023 1:48 pm
    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no? gRaSsTaStEsGoOd

    each managa makes their story different
    so yeah dunno about that.

    Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 2:22 pm
    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no? gRaSsTaStEsGoOd

    That’s what I was commenting on I don’t know why kyungsoo and chowon couldn’t make a baby and she had to use an alpha sperm donor it made me upset

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 4:04 pm
    each managa makes their story different so yeah dunno about that. .(^^)

    ah right... i just assumed the base rule was the same everywhere bc most omegaverse mangas (the japanese ones i mean) have the same introductory page (save for the additional details that the mangaka adds)

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 4:06 pm
    That’s what I was commenting on I don’t know why kyungsoo and chowon couldn’t make a baby and she had to use an alpha sperm donor it made me upset Kuroitenshi17

    i'm just gonna consider kyungsoo's situation to be similar to that of recessive alphas for the sake of understanding ╮(" ̄▽ ̄)╭

Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 8:36 pm

I liked the original story but I can’t exactly understand where the authors head is with these side stories. I understand yes this not real life but …. Come on Do hyeok takes a drug one time, bottoms one time and now he is no longer a top and can’t get hard unless he gets fucked up the ass?? Do hyeok comes from money and can’t go to private doctors or therapists to try and fix this issue instead he calls up Siwoo to help him orgasm—- like WTF. So magically drugs can make you a permanent bottom but viagra won’t work for Do Hyeok—- ok <_<. Siwoo motivation for the first time he does anything with Do Hyeok is also fucked up on so many levels. Who is Siwoo to judge what Do Hyeok does with what seems to be a prostitute. Siwoo literally had no idea what those drugs were and make Do Hyeok take all of them like 0.0- if those were real drugs he could have killed Do Hyeok by making him OD. If the original 20 y/o was a willing participant who does Siwoo think he is to force an entire bag of drugs on Do Hyeok and then shove sex toys up his ass? Bring some reality to the story- it would be one thing if this opened a new door for Do Hyeok and he actually enjoyed bottoming more then ever topping BUT instead we are given a story where the answer is Oh Well this is how it’s gonna be now as if the readers will see this as some type of justice for Suha forcing Do hyeok to become a bottom.

In terms of Do Hyeok being a bad person the narrative that the author presented was that Suha was the type of person that when he loves someone he will literally let them do whatever they want to him - I can’t exactly hate Do Hyeok for him and Suha for not having proper communication between each other. If this is the case you may not like it but you can’t hate Do Hyeok for Suha not standing up for himself and telling Do Hyeok how he really feels about everything. ( Also if remember Do Hyeok tried to keep Suha away from Kim young wu because he’s just too crazy abusive and disgusting.)

Now let’s discuss Kim Young Wu- WTF was the author thinking- what kind of friendship exists where anyone would believe just because you overheard your friend taking it up the ass justifies literally using chloroform on your friend and inviting a group of people to fuck him up the ass. Like I literally can’t make it click in my head how any of that makes sense- Also as we saw in the first chapter of the side story Do HYEOK literally says to Kim young Wu those sex toys are disgusting and he isn’t into that- So the author decides ok Kim Young Wu is just gonna ball gag Do Hyeok so he can’t say anything like a SAFE WORD when Do Hyeok has already expressed he doesn’t like that stuff? Also a ball gag doesn’t stop you from being able to actually say words like Rape Stop or NO. Kim Young Wu would have literwlly had to stuff Do Hyeok mouth with a sock and tape for Do Hyeok do not be able to make any real coherent words. Also Why would Kim Young Wu believe just because he overheard his friend bottom for someone that it means he would be totally fine with a gang bang like I’m just so confused. Also he states I’m only recording on Do Hyeok phone because I know he won’t report it- the author left out the conversation after the gang bang just to make this story more fucked up? It’s jsut really not making sense to me adding the fact we literally do not see Do Hyeok put up any type of a fight? He jsut says mother fucker like really? REALLY? Do Hyeok just recently got out of jail after 2 years- usually jail fucks with your head I can’t imagine Do Hyeok just passively letting everything happen to him.

If the author wants to go with the trope that these rich people do these things to other because people will do anything for money and they can get away with it because they have money- doesn’t exactly fit with this scenario that they would do this to one of their own and not actually fear any consequences whatsoever.

Even the later convo between Do Hyeok and Kim young Wu- that fake ass apology like Kim Young Wu really had absolutely no idea how bad the thing he did was and that the simple fake ass apology would fix things between them is just so weird.

Please tell me I am not the only one that’s sees this entire story line as super controversial and completely unrealistic? I can’t even understand the motivation behind Do Hyeok being a shitty person combined with why Siwoo just doesn’t Sit Do Hyeok down and explain to him why his actions are fucked up?

Also as I said I have OCD I can’t start something and not finish it that’s the only reason I’m still reading this.

    mallard November 18, 2023 9:11 pm

    You speak for me man. I felt like this is just a way for the author to play the trope reverse abuse because of what do hyeok done in the past, so now it's ok to treat him the same. He kept acting arrogant to justify the reason for other people to start treating him bad. Now when he started losing his power/status, he will lose himself somehow and beg for siwoo because Mc is the only one who care for Do hyeok. Kinda the same content with the sadistic beauty side story.... Unrealistic to author imagination of what thay can do to a character because they want it

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 9:40 pm

    But that’s not even reverse abuse because Do Hyeok never did that to Suha. They also didn’t clarify if Do Hyeok had any inkling that Suha really didn’t like do any of those things, we find out that Suha was just doing it because Suha loved Do Hyeok - If they wanted to reverse abuse they can’t use Kim Young Wu his supposedly long term friend and in the worst ever possible situation.

    Did the author also forget about how Hyeok and Siwoo first interacted- I can’t understand Siwoo being this vigilante without any common sense- Siwoo goes to the wrong room, remembers some situations involving Suha and Do Hyeok and decides when a 20 year old possibly a prostitute comes to the door to send the prostitute away and have an altercation with Do Hyeok? Siwoo has some good points but I am not going to forget the first red flag.

    Is this just super lazy writing on the authors part? Does anyone understand the authors view lol did they give any interviews and explain the story line or anything?

    hatdiggitydog November 18, 2023 10:30 pm

    you are so real for this i swear i've BEEN saying this. the story makes no sense whatsoever and sure most manhwas have some kinda weird plotline and shit but like genuinely these side stories the author must be writing them while on drugs. it's so strange how everyone reacts and the plot just is not working?? like dohyeok is painted as an asshole and is an angry evil shit and then literally lets everyone walk all over him??? he gets mad at siwoo all the time and cusses him out but then that's it end of and lets siwoo treat him like shit kinda during sex only. THEN dohyeok continues calling up siwoo even tho he's pissed or whatever like?

    Heu77 November 18, 2023 10:43 pm
    you are so real for this i swear i've BEEN saying this. the story makes no sense whatsoever and sure most manhwas have some kinda weird plotline and shit but like genuinely these side stories the author must be... hatdiggitydog

    Yeah the author isn’t really good at this

    TreeOfLife November 18, 2023 11:38 pm

    I'll be real with you... This story became unrealistic and went off the rails from mid season 2 (?) when Jiwoon started being abusive to Suha out of the blue.

    It almost felt like the writer changed to someone else while the artist stayed the same, and I've been uninvested since then.

    At this point I'm just hanging on for the rest of the ride.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 12:02 am
    I'll be real with you... This story became unrealistic and went off the rails from mid season 2 (?) when Jiwoon started being abusive to Suha out of the blue.It almost felt like the writer changed to someone el... TreeOfLife

    Holy crap I totally forgot about all that super weird crap about Jiwoon becoming super possessive and crazy 0.0. Thank you for that reminder and ya I agree with you there now that I remember

Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 1:32 am

You can’t hypnotize someone to do
Something they don’t really want to do. I think deep down the older brother doesn’t really hate the little brother. I don’t know how the author is going to finish this story but I do know that saying the little brother is a rapist is questionable because again you can’t hypnotize someone to do something they would never do. It’s grey area, I don’t think it was right and he could have used hypnotism to better their relationship and let the sex stuff happen naturally but it is what it is

    Aoi November 18, 2023 1:43 am

    I don't mean to be rude BUT according to your logic hypnotizing someone who isn't in a clear state of mind and r*ping him isn't r*pe? And you ASSUME that the uke wanted it??? EXAMPLE (and this is just an example) :- So you're saying you're okay if your step brothers hypnotizes you and r@pes you while being hypnotized? Whether you wanted it or not is another case but you're saying you consent to being HYPNOTIZED?? & then r@ped. It's not about Grey areas. Sex without consent is r@pe. I'M A LITTLE BAFFLED. Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

    Clearly, there was no consent because the uke was clearly not in a conscious state of mind. How can you justify that it was not r@pe? When uke never consented to being hypnotised as well. Let alone sex. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 18, 2023 2:05 am

    you are wrong ,there are people that use hypnotize to scam money from the eldest and it really happened in some countries .you think they want to be scam?NO!! none of the victims want that . when woojin hypnotized wooyeon ,wooyeon didn't see woojin as someone he hates that's why he can do all that stuff with him. "you can't hpynotize someone to do something they don't really want to do "in wooyeon mind having sex is okay it's not because it's woojin. because under hypnotized he didn't hate woojin but in reality wooyeon hates woojin so your theory are wrong. sex is okay for him not because it's woojin, under hypnotized woojiin erased wooyeon's hate to him .that's why wooyeon is okay and had sex with him .
    not rape? NONSENSE .people got scammed from hypnotize then you want to say they deserve it ,and it's not scam? funny

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 18, 2023 2:21 am

    you need to be medicated

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 5:01 am
    I don't mean to be rude BUT according to your logic hypnotizing someone who isn't in a clear state of mind and r*ping him isn't r*pe? And you ASSUME that the uke wanted it??? EXAMPLE (and this is just an exampl... Aoi

    That’s not what I said at all, you are interpreting what I said as you want to. I suggest you do as I stated and read up on hypnotism what’s real and what’s fiction. Under hypnotism YOU CAN NOT GET ANYONE TO DO SOMETHING THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO….. unless I wanted to have sex with my step
    Brother IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN- as I stated when you read up on what hypnotism really is vs what fictional hypnotism is maybe you would understand. Also my first statement says look at the title…. Do you under and what the placebo effect is?

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 5:04 am
    you are wrong ,there are people that use hypnotize to scam money from the eldest and it really happened in some countries .you think they want to be scam?NO!! none of the victims want that . when woojin hypnoti... JINLOVEMITSUYA

    If you do not know the difference between scamming someone out of their money and you belief of what hypnotism actually is I don’t know what to tell you. You watch to many movies read medical articles about hypnotism

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 5:06 am
    you need to be medicated -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ-

    What a lovely comment with no substance. You should be medicated also, probably with a placebo because it seems like those would work on someone like you xoxo <3

    Aoi November 18, 2023 5:25 am
    That’s not what I said at all, you are interpreting what I said as you want to. I suggest you do as I stated and read up on hypnotism what’s real and what’s fiction. Under hypnotism YOU CAN NOT GET ANYONE... Kuroitenshi17

    So you're CLEARLY ASSUMING that the uke wants to have sex with his brother when he clearly hates him when he is conscious. How does that even make sense? Placebo effect is when someone is under the impression that a certain treatment is working when it's clearly a placebo. And in terms of real science hypnotism & this story. It doesn't correlate because justifying his actions when the hypnotism working in this story clearly does not follow real hypnotism principles. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 5:34 am
    So you're CLEARLY ASSUMING that the uke wants to have sex with his brother when he clearly hates him when he is conscious. How does that even make sense? Placebo effect is when someone is under the impression t... Aoi

    I actually do not know the answer to that UNTIL the author releases more info. We actually are unable to clarify if the author is using real
    Hypnotism be Hollywood hypnotism. Only by releasing more chapters and giving us more back story can anyone make
    That clarification. IF it turns out the author is using Hollywood hypnotism 100% THEN YES it is rape

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 18, 2023 4:14 pm
    What a lovely comment with no substance. You should be medicated also, probably with a placebo because it seems like those would work on someone like you xoxo <3 Kuroitenshi17

    get grammer lessons

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 7:03 pm
    get grammer lessons -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ-

    I can see your other posts. Pot meet kettle ^_^

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 18, 2023 8:00 pm
    I can see your other posts. Pot meet kettle ^_^ Kuroitenshi17

    yet again i stand by what i said

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 8:55 pm

    what medication should I be put on since you are so educated? Please enlighten me troll

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 18, 2023 10:01 pm
    what medication should I be put on since you are so educated? Please enlighten me troll Kuroitenshi17

    peroxide

    Nayomyas101 November 18, 2023 10:30 pm

    The shitty r@pist is still a r@pist because the mc is not mindfully aware that he is being fucked by the ml. He’s being hypnotized. Just because it’s hypnosis doesn’t mean it isn’t r@pe. It’s just like someone being drugged or heavily intoxicated by alcohol and someone sleeps with them. Their body might be aware of what’s going on, but their mind isn’t. That’s why a lot of people report it when they’re drunk or high.

    Also, I saw someone on here saying some bullshit like “get grammar lessons”. Shut the fuck up. You’re reading in an illegal website sweetie, I don’t think it really matters that they made some spelling or grammar errors. Just grow tf up. You can make sense of what they’re saying just fine :)

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 10:58 pm
    peroxide -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ-

    Peroxide only helps if I ingested toxins….. I mean reading your weak replies does make me feel
    Nauseous. Maybe I’ll take a sip

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 11:06 pm
    The shitty r@pist is still a r@pist because the mc is not mindfully aware that he is being fucked by the ml. He’s being hypnotized. Just because it’s hypnosis doesn’t mean it isn’t r@pe. It’s just lik... Nayomyas101

    What I was tip toeing around with the initial topic statement was the possibility that the author gave this the title “placebo” because at some point the author is going to reveal that the older brother was never really hypnotized and just played along. People keep misinterpreting what I’m saying I’m not making a judgement call on the ethics of the so called alter stated and engaging in sexual relations- I’m saying the whole scenario of being able to hypnotize someone that hates you to sleep with you is complete fiction not possible in the real world and I’m questioning whether the author gave their work the title of placebo because in the end we are going to find out the younger brother never really hypnotized the older brother, the older brother just played along because it’s an easier pill to swallow when you can blame your actions on something else instead of admitting your deepest desires —— Does that make sense?

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 18, 2023 11:47 pm
    Peroxide only helps if I ingested toxins….. I mean reading your weak replies does make me feelNauseous. Maybe I’ll take a sip Kuroitenshi17

    maybe you'll vomit ur stupidity

    Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 12:05 am
    maybe you'll vomit ur stupidity -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ-

    Why are you so fixated on me? Also I didn’t know stupidity was a tangible thing you can eat, glad to know in your world that’s a possibility. It explains a lot

    Nayomyas101 November 19, 2023 4:20 am
    What I was tip toeing around with the initial topic statement was the possibility that the author gave this the title “placebo” because at some point the author is going to reveal that the older brother w... Kuroitenshi17

    Ohhh okay now I get it. To be completely, I wouldn’t be that surprised if the author did it end up doing that :/

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 19, 2023 8:20 am
    If you do not know the difference between scamming someone out of their money and you belief of what hypnotism actually is I don’t know what to tell you. You watch to many movies read medical articles about h... Kuroitenshi17

    IT'S not movies hellow i clearly told you it happened in REAL LIFE .you don't even know about what happened to the world you live ,huh.(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 19, 2023 8:22 am
    That’s not what I said at all, you are interpreting what I said as you want to. I suggest you do as I stated and read up on hypnotism what’s real and what’s fiction. Under hypnotism YOU CAN NOT GET ANYONE... Kuroitenshi17

    nonsense IT'S THE SEX THAT IS OKAY NOT THE TARGET PERSON ,YOU ARE SO DUMB. you don't even know about hypnotize .stop pretending like you know .i have read the news about that .don't argue with me

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 19, 2023 8:26 am
    So you're CLEARLY ASSUMING that the uke wants to have sex with his brother when he clearly hates him when he is conscious. How does that even make sense? Placebo effect is when someone is under the impression t... Aoi

    he is so stupid ,he said you can't hypnotize someone to do something they don't really want to do is for the "ACTION" not for the "target person" FOR wooyeon sex is okay so that's why he had sex with woojin and woojin also erased the hate wooyeon had for him .that's why it's okay for him to have sex with him. it's not because wooyeon really want to have sex with woojin .how stupid his theory .

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 19, 2023 8:27 am
    I actually do not know the answer to that UNTIL the author releases more info. We actually are unable to clarify if the author is using realHypnotism be Hollywood hypnotism. Only by releasing more chapters and ... Kuroitenshi17

    you watch too much movies ,wake up .

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 19, 2023 8:30 am
    What I was tip toeing around with the initial topic statement was the possibility that the author gave this the title “placebo” because at some point the author is going to reveal that the older brother w... Kuroitenshi17

    in your dream if you think wooyeon is aware of the hypnotize .hahahaha......you think too much .wake up from your dream

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 19, 2023 3:27 pm

    p honestly I think you forget how much the bottom hates the top like he's hated him ever since they met when in the world has anybody wanted to fuck somebody that they despise

    Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 6:38 pm
    in your dream if you think wooyeon is aware of the hypnotize .hahahaha......you think too much .wake up from your dream JINLOVEMITSUYA

    BACK THE EFF UP. You do not know
    Me and it’s actually fact no one in the history of the world have been hypnotized and been made to kill someone. scamming money out of people making them
    Believe whatever you tell
    Them is not the same
    As this idea where you can literally snap you fingers and get someone to do anything you want. The articles involved sexual misconduct involve therapist with their patients already showing you that there was some type of preexisting situation between the doctor and his patients— This is a comic book where the brother reads a book one time and now is an expert on hypnotizing people and can get the person to do anything and everything he wants them to do 0.0 stop commenting. and let me tell you something MOFO the minute you try to have a discussion with someone and you resort to calling someone stupid to get your point across YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST YOUR ARGUMENT

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 20, 2023 6:22 am
    BACK THE EFF UP. You do not knowMe and it’s actually fact no one in the history of the world have been hypnotized and been made to kill someone. scamming money out of people making themBelieve whatever you te... Kuroitenshi17

    then why you replied me? kill someone is an act like i said it's for the action not for the target person .wooyeon is okay with sex that's why he can have sex with woojin .people can't kill other people under hypnotize because that's an ACT .the same like sex not because the target person it's woojin or whatever person !!!!!

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 20, 2023 6:24 am
    BACK THE EFF UP. You do not knowMe and it’s actually fact no one in the history of the world have been hypnotized and been made to kill someone. scamming money out of people making themBelieve whatever you te... Kuroitenshi17

    kill is an act ,sex is an act .WOOYEON OKAY WITH SEX OF COURSE HE CAN HAVE SEX WITH WOOJIN and also woojin erased wooyeon's hate to him .that's why he is okay and had sex with woojin.people can't kill under hypnotize is for the action ,you understand or not ?

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 7:54 pm
    kill is an act ,sex is an act .WOOYEON OKAY WITH SEX OF COURSE HE CAN HAVE SEX WITH WOOJIN and also woojin erased wooyeon's hate to him .that's why he is okay and had sex with woojin.people can't kill under hyp... JINLOVEMITSUYA

    You realize that for real hypnosis to work there has to be a level of trust between the person who is hypnotized and the person who does the hypnotizing….. just because you are ok with having sex does NOT mean you can be hypnotized to have sex with anyone. If you want to keep arguing with me SHOW ME PROOF. Link me to real articles showing that you actually understand what hypnotism really is and understand what’s it’s not. AND WOOYEON WAS A VIRGIN- how can you be ok with SOMETHING YOU NEVER DID?!?!?!? You just used your own argument against yourself. Do yourself a favor and Just stop

    JINLOVEMITSUYA November 24, 2023 9:15 pm
    You realize that for real hypnosis to work there has to be a level of trust between the person who is hypnotized and the person who does the hypnotizing….. just because you are ok with having sex does NOT mea... Kuroitenshi17

    he FINGERED AND MASTURBATED BEFORE WHILE THINKING JUNGHWI SUNBAE CAN'T YOU SEE IT? you want me to give you link ?how lazy of you, if you can't find it yourself stop asking me .i really dislike people that can't find the answer themselves and ask other people to provide proof it's very lazy .show me the PROOF?YOU think we are at COURT and YOU ARE THE JUDGE AND I NEED TO SHOW you ALL PROOF? ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 25, 2023 3:07 pm
    he FINGERED AND MASTURBATED BEFORE WHILE THINKING JUNGHWI SUNBAE CAN'T YOU SEE IT? you want me to give you link ?how lazy of you, if you can't find it yourself stop asking me .i really dislike people that can't... JINLOVEMITSUYA

    Because you have zero proof BECAUSE I LOOKED ALL THIS SHIT UP. You do not understand hypnotism and frankly you sound like you are a teenager. You do not understand any of the complexity and all your comments I have seen on other pages are juvenile and lacking depth. So just stick to your false reality

    -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ- November 25, 2023 9:27 pm

    i swear you don't understand anything like?? everytime he gained consciousness he freaked out and hit the top dont even

    Kuroitenshi17 November 26, 2023 6:24 pm
    i swear you don't understand anything like?? everytime he gained consciousness he freaked out and hit the top dont even -ˋˏ KORI ˎˊ-

    You do understand this is a work of fiction right? You do understand the premise I put forward insinuates that the uke is PRETENDING because he doesn’t want to admit to himself how he really feels right?

    I have eyes I see exactly how the characters are reacting to each other. As I stated previously the author chose the title PLACEBO- figure out what a placebo is then come back to annoy me- because the thought that the author is just choosing a particular title just to have the story about Hollywood hypnotism and just smut is WACK AF, but then again I’ve admitted before I could be completely wrong.

    Annoy someone else if you aren’t going to actually have a discussion and just troll me

Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 1:19 am

First let me say I understand people’s frustration with manhua I can say me personally I’ve been in the beta position and it’s sucks BUT I can appreciate this manhua because it sheds light on what the other person is thinking. People always want to ask how could they do this to someone and the alpha is a perfect example they are just a POS and it is what it is- you will never actually be able to get a clear answer for yourself why the other person cheated - it’s best to just move on from it because just like the alpha the other person isn’t letting the break up bother them really they will have already moved on while more then likely the beta will be upset about this for a while- Hopefully people understand what I’m saying. Also stop saying the beta also cheated all we know is that the other guy kissed the beta we don’t know anything else besides that- even IF he did cheat the ONLY reason the beta cheated is because the alpha messed with his head. If the alpha doesn’t give his boyfriend the time of the day and makes the bets feel like he isn’t appreciated that what can happen. Yes, cheating is wrong BUT let’s not pretend that the alpha’s infidelity and the beta infidelity are on the same level.

On another note people are saying this has a happy ending and my response is WHY do you believe that’s a happy ending? The Alpha and the omega end up together and have a child together and that’s the ending apparently but how does that constitute a happy ending? - the author can say something on the very last chapter along the lines of and they lived “happily ever after” but everyone knows that’s bullshit because these characters have no real depth and connections. You have the age gap working against the alpha and omega couple, along with the fact who is to say the alpha won’t cheat on the omega? The alpha cheated because of pheromones apparently but the alpha has never been around other omegas in heat for me to be able To believe he wouldn’t cheat again: Also the omega was a horrible parent to the beta why the hell would I believe that he would be parent of the year with his new daughter? What kind of a parent hurts their own child and doesn’t try to reconcile with them? At the end of the day he is still the parent of the beta- if they don’t reconcile why would I believe the alpha and the omega really have a happy ending? I may be the only one but I don’t find the omega attractive at all, I actually prefer the beta x beta couple they are hot to me ^_^. The alpha and the omega just have sex they don’t really have any history they just have pheromone chemistry and that’s not even going to hold up against if the alphas Fated Pair shows up….. let’s not forget about the alphas parents I can’t really see them jumping with joy that the Alpha knocked up the omega. If anything I could totally see the Alpha parents being the in laws that berate the omega all time ^_^. You are free to disagree with me but that’s how I see things going

    Hiroshi November 18, 2023 1:26 am

    He will be the stepfather's ex-boyfriend

    Kunikuzushi November 18, 2023 4:19 am

    love u

    Jess November 18, 2023 5:24 am

    YESS, Idk why people dislike your comment. You said nothing but factsss

    GISS23 November 18, 2023 5:30 am

    you said all the points needed to say.
    Once a cheater always a cheater. Never the model parent.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 18, 2023 9:43 pm
    YESS, Idk why people dislike your comment. You said nothing but factsss Jess

    I think it’s because I don’t find the omega attractive at all lol

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