i wanna ask before i read but, does this have any romance in it? i don’t usually like sub-plot romance in genres like this as authors tend to make the girls fall desperately in love after being saved, and make them very unfairly underdeveloped. i hope he girl on the right isn’t a character like that bc honestly i’d love to see her kick some ass, and see how strong she is.
Nah, no romance so far, but mc got Lil sister that basically the damsel in distress character.
i feel terrible for her sisters, i feel bad for her parents but imagine having to hold your mother back as she had to watch her daughter die at the hands of her sister. i love the sisters even though we know practically nothing abt them. i feel bad that her family have to face the repercussions of one child’s actions and that fiona has to live knowing she killed her stupid sister.
“that’s a story for another time” uhm- no i think tf not. EXPLAIN, GO ON, ELABORATE BITC, FINISH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, DONT STOP WHEN ITS GETTING BETTER
exactly my reaction. just when it was getting good... (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
on a side not doesn’t “that’s a story for another time” kinda remind you of “that’s a secret i’ll never tell” from gossip girl? i haven’t watched it but i’m pretty sure it’s from that show lol
*note
I haven't watch that show. so I can't tell.. but that line surely sounds like a story that'll never be told (〜￣△￣)〜
i’ve just started reading this again and i really hate these characters.
i liked them at first but now i don’t.
the chick is such a plain and boring character, she has no goals, no accomplishments, no note-worthy wishes or dreams. her backstory is the typical “did it for the greater good” but in this case for her family. she has no interesting traits and her personality is boring. she doesn’t want to do anything to improve her family’s living circumstances bc atm they’re just leeching off of the dukes assets and money. she could be doing so much more but instead her only concern is cleaning. not only that, but i loved how she wasn’t interested in the ml at the start, bc he was actual trash, he treated her like a tool. and all because he’s showing her kindness and how much he “loves” her, she all of a sudden starts catching feelings for him.
next is the ML, he was a problem to begin with and there is really no need to explain what’s wrong with this guy since we all know what his issue is.
While I do agree with you, its a slice of life manga so it's more or less just a feel good type of story with no depth to it
ʕʘ‿ʘʔ bro THIS? IS A SLICE OF LIFE?
HAHAHAHAHA IKR !! AND i find her fuckin annoying too
omg same i used to like this story but now, after having a double take, its
i’m at ch 80-something and i’m pissed abt how they(the author) used those stupid fucking pervert dolls (the relics) to get irene and juhyeon to fuck. of all the routes they could have taken, they took the most uninteresting and shittiest ways to “get them together.” i would have preferred to see their relationship develop emotionally first- like he’s just realised that her relapse/risk after she uses her powers is that her desires take over which he realised means she DESIRES HIM, SHE LIKES HIM.. BRO IVE BEEN SHIPPING THEM SO HARD AND U TAKE THE WORSE FUCKING APPROACH TO START THEIR “RELATIONSHIP” FFS. on god i’m mad asf. so mad i’m taking a break from this till i cool down. ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
They didn't fuck
that moment where you click the next chapter button and your face goes from to ಠ_ಠ
i just read the first chap- pls plssss tell me theres no sub-plot romance with the his fucking childhood friend.
i dont usually like sub-plot romance in action since most of the time its just useless and unnecessary drama, THIS THO looks super promising so i am wondering if i should continue reading?
youll regret not reading it! there is no romance currently and i doubt there will be in the near future since the mc is just obsessed with fighting (in a way)… even if there is i dont think it will affect the main plot that much
thank you for the input.
ps it’s not that i hate female characters in action/fantasy types it’s just they’r usually depicted as weak, or a “damsel in distress” who is ALWAYS saved by the mc. authors typically do this for that sub-plot romance, which really bothers me bc i’d love to see women being represented as anything other than the typical “weak-link” who’s desperately in love with the mc and whose decisions are always based upon how the main guy will perceive them.
i see that a lot of people favour her too so i’ll probably love her just as much. thank you again for the help!
Tbh I 100% agree with you and that's the main reason why I usually drop isekai/dungeon exploration mangas. The authors always try to find a reason for a female character to latch onto the mc and I know that by now people probably hate it when I asked ahead of time if a certain manga I'm interested in has romance or not cuz I don't want to waste my time on it. I've seen so many of the same tropes that I get scared whenever a female is introduced into a manga but I think this one has potential!
exactly, the authors unnecessarily add in usb-plot romance which usually isn’t even good due to the mere fact that the girl is usually underdeveloped in many aspects, which isn’t her fault but it’s the design she’s given. this results in her being the “weak-link” who ends up being saved by the mc who plays the typical “knight-in-shining-armour” trope when it comes to the romance. i really hate when women in these genres don’t get the recognition they deserve and usually play the part of the “caring group member” instead of allowing them to contribute much more. i’m not one for romance in theses genres bc they usually come up with some pathetic bullshit ass reason to have the girl cling to the mc and fall desperately in love with him so i’m with u when i ask if there is any romance bc i’ll most definitely hate it usually.
Spoiler Alert
Before any of that, In his first life, she sacrificed herself, don't know why. She was not whiny or anything. She will be strong after the first phase. I don't know whether she was into him or not but there like great friends. She was not a weak woman in the first place. She could stand on her own without him. She is currently my fav female character in a Male mc storyline. She is great. Fuck she also gives chill in the latest chapters uploaded.
I remember him talking about that in the first few chapters and I love her character too, I wish more female side characters were like her but I still hope there's no romance especially between them because usually it's unnecessary and it ruins the entire story. So far it's looking good tho
Why? As long it's a healthy relationship with no damsel in distress I'm shipping
Yeah I've just read so many of these that I'm tired of seeing the same tropes and cliches over and over again. I'd just rather they focus on the action and surviving instead of involving romance because obviously this story is fine without it.
jisoo is the best female character in any of these isekai/dungeon webtoon hands down id like her to break my neck. dont worry about shipping her w mc, youll ship her w yourself lmao.
i also don’t want romance, yet, i haven’t read it so i’ll start now! but the reason being is because i’ve heard so many amazing things about the girl and it’s just that i don’t trust the author to not simplify and ruin her character to add in some trash sub-plot romance in which they go through typical boring and shitty cliches only to end up in a mediocre relationship. she seems amazing and if they did end up together i’d be so happy, but that’s only if they don’t go through terribly degrading stereotypes like:
“the damsel in distress” who after she’s saved bc she’s “incapable” desperately in love with the mc. or
“the love triangle” it’s an unnecessary trope to begin with, all it does is cause issues. i don’t want them going through unnecessary shit and pain and frustration if their relationship was already great to begin with. there’s more but yeh.
i really hope that if they do include romance, they don’t take away from the characters abilities or self in general just to include something so disappointing like romance in an already great relationship and in an already great manhwa.
wewwwwww thankq
thank you comments for warning me to not read this as i will probably lose my fucking mind over this manhwa. i appreciate the help comments(⌒▽⌒)
i’m gonna give my honest review here so please don’t get angry ( ˊ˂˃ˋ )
the characters all together are a 5/10, which in general sucks.
the mc has an interesting goal which is great, she wishes to protect her brother while also saving the person who could be her demise in the future. she’s quite understandable and relatable but i find it a bit boring how she seems to be developing feeling for the very same reason for her demise all because of his sweet looks. i understand her thought process of, “if i treat him kindly and help release him everything may be okay” but she must be wary of him as he could be using her obvious care and consideration for him as a means to escape and/or betray her. i mean, we’ve yet to full dive into his true character and have only seen fragments thus far, so he could be a snake for all we know.
The Brother
: i’m not going to lie, i like him. i enjoy his character even though it’s lowkey shit. he could’ve been a real brother to the original which is disappointing but it seems he knows that he’s neglected her so i appreciate how he’s trying his best to look after her and take the negative influences around her away for now. i like how he’s relatively soft around her compared to his vassals. other than his relationship with his sister, i think he needs some type of development, even if it’s small. his behaviour negatively impacts the country, he needs to thoroughly and concisely make better decisions that won’t put his country and his citizens in danger, he must also try and gain the trust of his citizens as they seem to view him as “a tyrant that makes their lives difficult”. so yeh he needs development both communication wise as well as personality wise.
The art
is not impressive, i like the brothers design but all the other characters are mediocre and plain. they don’t particularly have any details that are noteworthy or considerably interesting. even the main character has nothing really distinctive about her design which i’m a bit disappointed in as she is the main character of this story (not the novel she’s in lol). it also doesn’t help that almost every chapter is in the worst quality.
the translations
as much as i appreciate the updates, i’m only up to ch 10 and i’m considering dropping it due to the quality of the uploads and panels, but also the translations. if the uploads were clearer and the tls were less choppy then i’d consider staying to continue this series but unfortunately not. thank you for you work until now, i hope the TL take some this last paragraph into consideration and improves their works if they plan on doing more than one project, bye bye!╰(*´︶`*)╯♡
i agree entirely. i thought that it was a little suspicious because blond dude started to come onto FL more after he overhead her say something about that og clara liked him. also her approach to everything is a little naive and a little stupid? like in that chapter when she asked the maids to see her brother and they clearly told her that he was in a meeting, why would she go in?? like yes, gain influence, but that was just unnecessarily disruptive and rude and then when he kicked her out she was like "oh boohoo he sees me as a nuisance" like NO you shouldn't have interrupted. definitely dropping this, FL bothers me too much.
yeh i see where ur coming from on this, she really does lack consciousness of her actions and doesn’t properly think through situations. as you said, when she disrupted their meeting because she wanted to see him was too naive and just plain stupid, which is also another reason i’m dropping this. i would’ve been fine if she lacked detail in her design and appearance but she also lacks the capability to understand situations and to be able to judge actions, people and scenarios. she doesn’t have any remarkable or memorable personality traits or skills that could be seen as unique and interesting, nor does she hold any intellectual higher standing, she’s just to boring and seems to have less interesting traits than the other characters even though she is the MC.