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On Sakuma kissing that girl…

I honestly don’t blame him in that situation. He was aware he was in a serious relationship with Takimoto and has thus expressed himself even when scared out of his wits in that kind of situation. He also genuinely didn’t understand the importance of not kissing people other than Takimoto, probably because he had had no serious relationships before Takimoto due to his childhood trauma and thus has no knowledge of the so-called boundaries that he himself had to set up.
At that time, he was just willing to do anything to be released from the dark and if he had to kiss her as the only way out, he would do it, anyway a kiss to him was just nothing but a touching of lips much like how a handshake is merely a touching of hands. It’s just like how someone would just give away all their material valuables under the fear of a gun or a knife. Money is meaningless when compared to personal safety. For Sakuma, that meaningless kiss was nothing compared to his crippling fear of the dark.
When Takimoto asked him if he would be alright with Takimoto kissing others, even when he didn’t understand, he felt he didn’t want to agree to such a thing. It’s not like he was saying in specific terms that it was alright for him to kiss others but not for Takimoto to do the same. He himself was confused at first that that was the conclusion of their talk before he understood things from Takimoto’s perspective, so then he seriously asked for forgiveness and promised not to do it again even if “it couldn’t be helped” and there was no way out.

Conclusion: He was cornered, scared out of his wits, and felt there was no other way out but to give a meaningless kiss away.
Judgment: Excused. I also genuinely feel this was Takimotos’s judgment too. He was understandably very angry as he should be, but he obviously understood Sakuma’s thoughts and explained the situation to him in a way that Sakuma would understood his own perspective and understand what was ok and not ok as a person in a serious relationship with another.

This is just my own take, though. Or am I just taken by how pitiful and adorable Sakuma is at the same time? Hahaha

What a crazy association… even though Bunnicula is such a chaotic cutie…

I dunno how to feel, really. The comments are going crazy, people blaming uke, blaming seme, absolving uke, absolving seme…

Well for me, it really was kind of a turn-off when we found out that seme really did go sleeping around when uke told him to and not for reasons like: ew, he was sleeping around with others while having confessed his love to uke. Though personally I really do think this kind of thing is not quite commendable - if you [still] love someone and yet you sleep with others just because you’re not in a relationship with them or they rejected you, it’s not your love interest that you’re betraying but you yourself and your feelings of love, it’s not that you’re disrespecting them but disrespecting yourself, and if you decide to let go of your love and sleep with others, af least have the decency to completely move on and not go back spouting things like “you’re the only one for me after all, teehee” but hey, this is just me, and this opinion of mine, I think if I use it here as an argument I’ll get majorly roasted. Heh, of course, I know. My brain says the others are right even though my heart disagrees: these two are not in a relationship and seme’s confession did get rejected (multiple times). He has the right to sleep with whomever he wants as he has no obligation to the uke to stay loyal, and even if he conveniently did not tell uke how he had been sleeping around, this is also within his rights of privacy.

I just feel super scammed on the uke’s behalf and on my behalf as a reader (was not expecting it to be this realistic, I thought the seme had ulterior motives and went to the club ‘cause he already had feelings for uke and he was super sincere and really dedicated, and so youthful going against the societal norms for love aww sike lol). I mean, I agree, it was no one’s fault - not the uke’s (he was insecure, conflicted and just kinda jaded?), and not the seme’s too (he was heartbroken and inexperienced). It’s just that, wasn’t the uke super conflicted over his feelings for the seme before? Then he said those things to seme and seme really did not go to see him for some time and so uke was missing him and he’s now really super duper even more conflicted. Then the seme just goes with an attack like “I don’t want to sleep with anyone else.” I mean, I’m pretty sure the uke assumed it meant the seme really did not go sleep with others just judging by how surprised and shocked he was to have found out otherwise, he must have thought: ‘I’m really the only one for him’ in the exclusive kind of sense (not the tested and proven kind), and concluded that the seme’s feelings for him were genuine and sincere (not that there are no other ways to prove sincerity, just in this one specific train of logic) and that gave him the courage to cross that line and get over his worries (I’m pretty sure not seeing each other for some time also helped, but yeah, you get it). Now, he learns that his assumptions were wrong. So the previous resolution of his own feelings that he found based on that assumption, I’m surprised he didn’t go the route of feeling it had been invalidated. Or he might have, just that he was caught in a trip for two with the cause of his problems and in the end he just kinda gave up agonizing over it and went with the flow? hahahahaha lol- no.

And to have found out in that kind of way at that kind of timing, wow, poor thing, but as I’ve said, seme also can’t be faulted, he was completely entitled to keep his previous escapades before their relationship a secret. Maybe it was really all just extremely distasteful bad luck.

Yeah sure, we could say that seme had tried one-night stands with others and that made him realize and confirm that his one-night stand with the uke was indeed special and he only had feelings for the uke. While this logic is legit and valid and is scientifically correct (trial and error and replication, right?), it is also kinda giving asshole… I mean, so for him to have his feelings confirmed in this way, did that mean that even though he was trying to corner uke saying he was serious and sincere while uke was contemplating the serious matter of being in a relationship with a student of a university department he was currently employed in (sure, he might not be a teacher, but still) while feeling extremely insecure thinking that seme might not really like him specifically as himself as opposed to liking him as the seme’s first taste of a man, seme wasn’t actually sure about himself too? or was it just the uke’s constant doubts that also made him doubt himself?

Really super conflicted about how to feel about this even just for the the reason stated in my third paragraph… i mean, yeah, the logic in my fifth paragraph, while I have my own personal opinions about it, it is also kinda valid… but third paragraph, though such a small trivial thing, is really where my issues lie. Well, just for the sake of the happy ending, I’m also glad that uke and I do not think alike as he and I have different life experiences and standing at different positions and seeing things with different perspectives. My opinions are extremely subjective and in no way must be taken as a legit argument and I’m also in no way saying I am right, I’m not the honored one lol, Just saying, so that’s that and I’m gonna go…

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/page_o_mekuru_sono_mae_ni/uu/br_chapter-63340/pg-38/

Who are these fine, beautiful people??? Please!!! ╥﹏╥ Tell me! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ I need to know!!! ╥﹏╥
Thank you!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

I like it, this story, but you know, with all these mangas like this one, I’m kinda forming this image in my head of a Japan that is a safe haven for sex offenders, cheaters, and just toxic and messy relationships. I dunno? Hahahaha. Because most of the BL mangas I’ve read where there are sex offenders, they are never apprehended, they don’t get retaliated upon, and stuff. They just get punched a few times, threatened a few times, and then nothing in my opinion that would have been a lasting consequence so that they never do it again to the people currently involved or to others. Because then it would become the victim’s fault, the victim would feel guilty ruining a sex offender’s life or they would feel embarrassed that they’ve been victimized and they feel that they’d ruin their own lives if they made a big deal out of it. Like this one here, there were so many people he had terrorized and abused but because he has a child, they don’t deal with him properly (like hand him over to the police) even though they have evidence because he doesn’t want his parental rights to be taken away. I mean, does he even deserve those parental rights? He’s a criminal! Sure, a criminal has rights too, but do they have the rights to a young child just because they ‘love’ this biological child of theirs? If they love the child so much, shouldn’t they have thought of that before committing crimes against other people? I mean, I’m just glad I don’t live in yaoi-world Japan and I sure do hope it’s not actually like this in real life Japan, because otherwise, it’s really not a good place to be an SA victim. Yeah, or I’m just running my mouth, I don’t know anything about the truth yada yada hahahahaha

Hi! Can anyone pls tell me where the extra where these two were featured was uploaded to? Please? Thanks! It’s the one where they met when they visited main story’s uke at his workplace. I think that’s where they both got a chance to interact more with each other.

Hi, does anyone know what manga this is from? https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/incidentally_living_together/uu/incidentally_living_together-chapter-1/2/
I’m sure I’ve read some time ago, I just don’t remember… Please and thank you! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/pavlov_s_lover/uu/br_chapter-28141/pg-13/

Well, hello there!

Huh? I don’t know why the bisexual seme of the second couple is getting a ton of hate? I like both semes. They’re honest and consciously put in effort for a healthier human-human relationship with their partners. The bisexual seme may have wanted for a physical-only relationship (as healthy as that can get) but he was honest about it and honest about his reasons for it. He was aware of his shortcomings and constantly tries to remind his partner about it so as not to go into a relationship with absurd expectations and be unnecessarily hurt. It’s also good that his partner was the assertive type with enough confidence in himself to be able to complement the problems the seme has told him about. I mean, compare the bisexual seme with the main uke, they both didn’t want to start a serious relationship for roughly about the same reasons - the impossibility of same-sex marriage. However, while main uke ran away from his seme because of it without even explaining himself clearly, the bisexual seme was upfront about it. He clearly had some affections for his partner but he was also thinking about his partner and honest about it when he refused to be in a serious relationship. Just think about main uke’s ex who didn’t even let him know he was bisexual up until he sent him a wedding invitation and tells him that he dated him back then with the full intentions of eventually breaking up. That’s what traumatized uke. At least, for whatever faults bisexual seme had as a lover, he had full respect for his partner as a human. He was not trying to say that he would definitely leave his partner for a woman or even two-time him, he was laying the facts out to his partner - that he, as a person whose opinions and beliefs also matter and must be respected even while not all can and do agree, has currently no plans of ever coming out as being able to date guys for whatever reasons he may have which are perfectly valid as long as he is not deliberately hurting others and yes, there is the possibility that he might date and marry a woman in the future preferably after breaking it up cleanly with his current partner, which is his freedom and right to do so. Or they might stay together and he may even want to come out in the future, it’s his life. He was just being truthful about it so his partner understands perfectly before getting in a relationship with him and not be like his ex who apparently spent their relationship just worrying about his relationships with other people. He didn’t want to deal with a partner who isn’t confident enough to deal with those possibilities, I think. And didn’t he agree eventually when his partner told him that even if they broke up (and not that they really were dating to break up), he could move on fine and even if they have problems in their relationship they can deal with it together as proper couples do.
Honestly, at first I even thought pink-haired guy would be the seme for the second couple since between the two of them, he was the one I didn’t like. He was too aggressive and couldn’t take no for an answer. Do others really have to give you a reason you can accept for not sleeping with you? Can you disregard what reasons they give you just because you can’t accept it? It’s not as if it was his obligation to sleep with you? Isn’t it enough to just not want to? His pushy behavior just really annoyed me. Looking back on it now though, maybe only someone like him who has a strong ego can make the bisexual seme have enough confidence in a serious relationship with him where they won’t just stress and burn each other out of love.

Honestly, the immorality of incest aside, the fact that Kanata and Keita are now lovers who committed to each other is already established. I thought a pair of lovers’ commitment to each other is kind of a sacred thing. No matter what problems they have or how happy they actually are with each other, if they’re not harming each other or the people around them, I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business to decide whether they can be taken by others while under the umbrella of their commitment just on the basis of “I don’t think your partner loves you enough, so I’m gonna take you away because I obviously love you more.” Hello? Mizuhara, not to mention your sexual assault and attempted rape, does Kanata even love you? Kanata loves Keita so what right do you have to decide if Keita’s love is enough and whether Kanata should be taken away? Sure, relevant people like trusted family and friends can give advice to a struggling couple, but it’s the business of the people directly involved in the relationship to take that advice, and that’s as far as outsiders can and should go… is what I think. Are plot points such as Mizuhara’s abnormal, or is it just me who thinks it’s weird that some people can feel so entitled to that extent just on the basis of having feelings (and one-sided feelings at that)???
Not that I’m all for an incestual love affair like Kanata and Keita’s but just looking at the fact that they’re a couple already and speaking for all couples in general, is my opinion right or wrong?