Poppingcandy2 November 22, 2023 11:32 am

Finally something new. Reincarnating as the protagonist lol I like the fl

Poppingcandy2 November 19, 2023 7:33 am

??? It’s the size of a humans arm

Poppingcandy2 November 19, 2023 6:05 am

Nooo why did the art change I only read it for the art bye

Poppingcandy2 November 19, 2023 3:35 am

I’ve never seen people talk about this manhwa it’s so good( ̄へ ̄

Poppingcandy2 November 17, 2023 4:09 pm

People who hate her have no brain lol like I’m sorry she isn’t like other female leads who came back to the past after getting killed and straight away plan for revenge. They panic for a few seconds and suddenly think of revenge but that’s not how Inez is. She suffered so much and you people expect her to depend on carcel and love him straight away? Did we forget her first life where she was abused by her mother-in-law for having miscarriages when it was not even her fault? Did we forget how she was treated like a sexdoll by her husband? Did we forget how she saw her “lover” getting killed right infront of her? Did we forget how she strangled her own baby to death instead of letting him get killed by her family? You expect her to be so loving after all that? What a shocker that someone like her who suffered so much lie and manipulate people to get what she wants! INES IS MY QUEEN EVERYONE WHO DOESNT LIKE HER IS STUPID “Ines doesn’t deserve carcel” FUCK YOU ALL

    Buddy Inspirit November 17, 2023 5:10 pm

    You said all the words I wanted to say. Yeah Ines isn't a saint, well what do they expect? :v

    Uju-chan November 17, 2023 6:04 pm

    Thank youuuuuuu

    Faye November 17, 2023 7:50 pm

    Sometimes people just dont have enough braincells to comprehend the story ig 乁| ・  ・ |ㄏ

    levipleasecallmeback November 17, 2023 10:48 pm

    she’s such a complex character i don’t get what there is to dislike. it’s kind of ironic that people don’t like her actions and such. because in this life she broke out of the mold that her mom, the royal family, and noble society put her in and decided she was going to live in the safest way possible while ignoring everyone that criticized her. she was under a microscope in all her previous lives and never found peace in any of them. her treating carcel this way, wanting him to cheat, and ignoring his genuine affection is literally not that big of a deal compared to the horrors and devastation she’s faced like sorry

    snapplecider November 17, 2023 11:26 pm

    Who is hating her? People are just upset she's holding herself back.

    snapplecider November 17, 2023 11:29 pm
    Sometimes people just dont have enough braincells to comprehend the story ig 乁| ・  ・ |ㄏ Faye

    You sure it's not the people you don't think can't comprehend the story? Clearly she loves Carcel. She's not letting herself love him and it's not because what you all think. She just feels so guilty that she doesn't think she deserves to be happy. The people who are complaining just want her to be open with her feelings so she can also be happy. She's not doing herself a favor or Carcel. People who call her queen also don't know her a whole lot. What a joke. If you rly want what's good for her, then you should kindly hope for her to open up to letting herself be happy which is staying with Carcel.

    shuta November 17, 2023 11:45 pm

    Why ruin someone else's life tho? She doesn't want to take revenge, she can't choose men, why not run away or go to a nunnery? She lived "3" lives, surely, she learned that she has no luck on love, why not serve the fucked up being who keeps on reincarnating her until it gets bored? At least, there, she's safe and at peace.

    shuta November 17, 2023 11:46 pm

    At this point, I don't even want them both to fall in love. They don't deserve each other and would be better if they seek happiness from something else.

    StoryofMinglan November 17, 2023 11:56 pm
    Who is hating her? People are just upset she's holding herself back. snapplecider

    Some people don’t like that she used him and some people don’t like that she’s actually pushing women into his bedroom. Not everyone is complaining about her not returning Carcel’s feelings. Some people just have a limit that they don’t like that she’s actually framing him. But OP is doing a sweeping generalization of people who object to her actions. For them her past suffering justify everything but I wonder if Ines would think the same? People always think they speak for her but will Ines think she’s right to do this or will she finally realize that it was wrong to do this. Well, I know the answer but let’s see what the manhwa storyteller tells them.

    Poppingcandy2 November 18, 2023 9:08 am
    You sure it's not the people you don't think can't comprehend the story? Clearly she loves Carcel. She's not letting herself love him and it's not because what you all think. She just feels so guilty that she d... snapplecider

    ? I’m talking about people who are just simply hating on her and do not understand her lol I’m also waiting for her to open up like you said

    Poppingcandy2 November 18, 2023 9:11 am
    she’s such a complex character i don’t get what there is to dislike. it’s kind of ironic that people don’t like her actions and such. because in this life she broke out of the mold that her mom, the roy... levipleasecallmeback

    LITERALLY

    levipleasecallmeback November 18, 2023 10:05 am
    You sure it's not the people you don't think can't comprehend the story? Clearly she loves Carcel. She's not letting herself love him and it's not because what you all think. She just feels so guilty that she d... snapplecider

    i gotta disagree with your take on how she feels about leaving carcel. i think u should remember it’s hard for her to fully trust anyone and embrace her life/carcel. ines being distant and cold is not out of depriving herself from happiness. she protects herself by pushing people away and isolates because in the past she’s tried to live accepting happiness and making her own decisions for three (or two? im forgetting as i type this) lives and its always ended terribly for her…

    like you said, we are all waiting for her to open up more about her previous lives and carcel but from reading its clear that she doesn’t think carcel alone will bring her happiness; by how she created such an intricate plan since she was a child to be this reserved, non-impressionable person. it was always in her cards to divorce him and be the pitiful victim, then live alone from the public eye- with no one to control her. its a bit disingenuous to say “she should open up and choose to be happy by staying with carcel!” because the situation is a lot more complicated than her being a frustrating person who won’t chose the easy option. she wants peace even if it means being alone, and it’s important to her that she can finally die and through her own means

    also i don’t think she clearly loves carcel (yet). she just has a soft spot for him and feels guilty for treating him this way after seeing how much he adores her. if anything she’s starting to warm up and see him as a man but that’s it

    StoryofMinglan November 18, 2023 10:21 am
    i gotta disagree with your take on how she feels about leaving carcel. i think u should remember it’s hard for her to fully trust anyone and embrace her life/carcel. ines being distant and cold is not out of ... levipleasecallmeback

    No, Ines has been wrestling with conflicting emotions about Carcel ever since the morning she woke up from the seizure. Manhwa just sucks big time at gradually developing her. So people aren’t wrong when they say she’s falling for him. She is falling for him. As soon as she decides on whether to divorce or not, everything just takes off from there.

    levipleasecallmeback November 18, 2023 10:27 am
    No, Ines has been wrestling with conflicting emotions about Carcel ever since the morning she woke up from the seizure. Manhwa just sucks big time at gradually developing her. So people aren’t wrong when they... StoryofMinglan

    i’m confused you are basically agreeing with me, i said she was warming up to him as in starting to see the good sides of him and see him as a man but not currently in love with him

    StoryofMinglan November 18, 2023 10:30 am
    i’m confused you are basically agreeing with me, i said she was warming up to him as in starting to see the good sides of him and see him as a man but not currently in love with him levipleasecallmeback

    I’m saying she already romantically likes him. Not love. Like. She feels bad when she thinks of him treating another woman well. She has three different moments thinking this. This is before any of this ch happens. So, she was already having conflicting emotions about giving him up. Manhwa just sucks at portraying this and only included one moment which they downplayed.

    levipleasecallmeback November 18, 2023 10:40 am
    I’m saying she already romantically likes him. Not love. Like. She feels bad when she thinks of him treating another woman well. She has three different moments thinking this. This is before any of this ch ha... StoryofMinglan

    um alright? we are agreeing with each other there was no need to clarify how she romantically likes him. i was disagreeing with another commenter who said ines was clearly in love with carcel and explained how she wasn’t but is only starting to like him. if the manhwa and novel are different than you can expect readers to have different outlooks on it, no? since you read the novel you see original content that’s been changed, but since im only a manhwa reader im taking the info that’s given to us. i kinda don’t know where our convo is going because we both are on the same page and you have wishes that they included more scenes

    StoryofMinglan November 18, 2023 10:51 am

    The manhwa and novel aren’t different. The manhwa is more like tearing out pages while going along. They even use the exact same lines from the novel and sometimes it’s like story teller assumes the manhwa reader read the novel because the gaps in logic makes complete sense for the novel reader who can bridge the gap.

    Anyway, you said she has a “soft” spot for him so I originally took that to mean she simply likes him as a person. Meaning no romantic feeling. So I was saying she already likes him romantically. She’s always the last to fall for any man. The man always loves her first. That’s just the way it is in every timeline.

    levipleasecallmeback November 18, 2023 11:01 am
    The manhwa and novel aren’t different. The manhwa is more like tearing out pages while going along. They even use the exact same lines from the novel and sometimes it’s like story teller assumes the manhwa ... StoryofMinglan

    to clarify the only reason why i said the novel and webtoon are different is because you, yourself said it only included one scene explaining how she feels a certain way about carcel. then you proceeded to say there was two more scenes, such as this, not included and they even downplayed the one scene that showed. i wasn’t making a comparison about anything else that you said

    and you could’ve asked me what i meant by that from the context i thought it was pretty clear that “soft spot” and “seeing him as a man” meant there was growing romantic interest and feelings at play. hence why i was confused you told me “no” but restated what i already believed about their romance. like you kinda jumped the gun to try to prove me wrong and it came off a bit disconnected

    Uju-chan November 18, 2023 11:28 pm
    Why ruin someone else's life tho? She doesn't want to take revenge, she can't choose men, why not run away or go to a nunnery? She lived "3" lives, surely, she learned that she has no luck on love, why not serv... shuta

    Are you being for real right now go to a nunnery because why????? The goal was never to just be alive, it’s to not suffer again. Also she’s a noble dude

    StoryofMinglan November 18, 2023 11:39 pm
    Are you being for real right now go to a nunnery because why????? The goal was never to just be alive, it’s to not suffer again. Also she’s a noble dude Uju-chan

    Ines herself said the women she persuaded to get divorced in Calztela can choose to work to earn their living or join a nunnery. If it’s good for them it’s good for her too. Is she suggesting other women could do that and not her? Her mother went to a nunnery in a previous timeline. Women has been known to go to nunnery when they forsake the world and want to live in peace until they die.

    snapplecider November 18, 2023 11:39 pm
    Are you being for real right now go to a nunnery because why????? The goal was never to just be alive, it’s to not suffer again. Also she’s a noble dude Uju-chan

    Her goal was just to stay alive and die naturally bc she's only regressing from the suicides. Ines knows that so she's trying to live a life where she won't have to suffer to commit suicide again. She is a noble and she acts like one so she wouldn't want to live a life as a nun. Even when she live with the painter, she didn't do anything bc she doesn't know how to and didn't learn to. She was spoiled and continue to remain that way. She got an expensive lifestyle and she always needs servants. She can't live alone. Ofc that's knowing herself bc if she rly has decent mindset not to hurt anyone, she would've let herself be a nun and learn that lifestyle but Ines knows herself well. She likes material things and she likes to order ppl around and she likes to use ppl.

    levipleasecallmeback November 19, 2023 2:18 am

    just to give more insight, but why does she have to condemn herself to a life of prayer and servitude in order to survive in peace? y’all saw how terrible her life was when she lived as a commoner before with em, for four years, so she does have practical skills and doesn’t need servants nor material things

    the thing about being a nun is that it’s a lifestyle for people who are fully devoted to their religion and believe their calling is with god… not once has she ever stated being strongly religious. imo she doesn’t need to go to the extreme and live the rest of her life regretfully, while also depriving herself of the comfort she knows. carcel literally didn’t show interest in her for over a decade until she caught him cheating in 4k; and then he suddenly became clingy/devoted after she told him she didn’t care. for her plan, carcel was the safest option because she thought his infidelity would come in handy to make the separation clean and she wouldn’t be punished or blamed for the divorce

    StoryofMinglan November 19, 2023 9:40 am
    just to give more insight, but why does she have to condemn herself to a life of prayer and servitude in order to survive in peace? y’all saw how terrible her life was when she lived as a commoner before with... levipleasecallmeback

    Wow. You don’t know anything about Ines. I don’t blame you because the manhwa is doing a shitty job. Ines has practical skills? Where? Ines does not know how to do a damn thing. She sewed a handkerchief for Carcel and even that was barely up to par. The painter did everything for Ines. I don’t know how to do a damn thing. Even in this timeline, it’s Carcel who acts like her maid if they’re without servants. She doesn’t know how to cook, barely knows how to sew, probably never held a broom in her life, or knows how to clean. In every life somebody served her. Ines is thoroughly an aristocratic woman. She’s even more noble than Carcel who acts like a military man, knows how to cook, knows how to clean, knows how to live simply and knows how survive by himself.

    As to religion, you don’t know anything about Ines. Nobody prayed more than her in another timeline. Sick like a dog with illness ravaging her body, she prayed for hours each day because she trusted in god. Ines knows when to seek god and her entire goal in this lifetimes was to live to die. If she was so desperate, nunnery is the best option to live one’s life in peace and wait for death. There is no excuse for her to use Carcel. It’s even worse that Carcel risk his life and his family’s life to help her and her people in the previous timeline and then she repays him by choosing him at the innocent age of 6 to use him and dump him. I know many of you all think it’s right for her to do it but if she’s so right she should not have a problem living with that secret. Let’s see if she’ll eventually confess the truth to him and cries because she knows it was wrong to do it. At least it shows she still has a conscience. Carcel always quick to admit he was wrong but some people don’t know how to admit their wrong and apologize. Let’s see if she’s that kind of person.

    StoryofMinglan November 19, 2023 9:47 am

    Another funny thing is talking about Ines not needing material things. What a joke. Didn’t you read the shopkeeper in the jewelry shop say the material of her black dress is high quality? If she’s not materialistic, she could choose less quality fabric because she has that choice. Also, Ines is so materialistic that when she chooses her tomb, she wants a big extravagant to,b to be buried in, please don’t tell me she’s not a materialistic person. She’ll even become a fashion trendsetter again in Mendoza when she’s already one in Calztela.

    levipleasecallmeback November 19, 2023 11:35 am
    Wow. You don’t know anything about Ines. I don’t blame you because the manhwa is doing a shitty job. Ines has practical skills? Where? Ines does not know how to do a damn thing. She sewed a handkerchief for... StoryofMinglan

    wow. okay no need to be so aggressive when we view her differently. it just seems like you came to rough conclusions and made her out to be an awful, selfish person. saying i don’t know anything about her was rude as hell for no reason lmao my original comment was so neutral? it doesn’t seem like u do this but i reread a manhwa multiple times to double check that what i say isn’t misinformation! from the way u describe her, you see her so negatively- rather than a victim of her circumstances and also make carcel out to be this selfless innocent lover who was betrayed when this isn’t the case at all

    do you think in all the time she spent with emilano she didn’t pick up any life skills? like bffr. she was trained and raised as a spoiled aristocrat and they emphasis this fact so much but you do realize during the four years she ran away she had none of those, servants or luxuries, and had to adapt to a poor commoner lifestyle? her being bad at sewing doesn’t = have no other life skill lmao. i would understand if u addressed how she would undermine the cost of jewelry she sold, in her past life, but beyond that she HAD to gain practical skills to survive in her circumstances. you make it seem as if she’s this helpless child that can’t do a single thing, when she did have outside life experience apart from growing up pampered

    and i didn’t say she wasn’t religious, i said she wasn’t STRONGLY faithful enough to live her life as a nun. you keep missing my point and then coming at me with that know-it-all behavior and it makes you look weird and mean. you make it seem as if nunnery was her only option and it would’ve been easier for her to do so. do you understand how difficult and disciplined you must be, in order to become/stay a nun? she’s lived on both ends of the spectrum being extremely rich and also in extreme poverty- how is it a bad thing that she wants to live a life of comfort for the rest of her days. carcel was an easy option because he was the most reliable. she didn’t think he would fall for her after he’s been flirting and/or hooking up with other women since he was a teenager. it was a no brainer for her and she still has attachments to worldly things so she still wants to take part in noble society but have her own independence- which can only be achieved through being widowed/divorced. i think u are also forgetting she HAS to get married or it’ll reflect badly on her family and her reputation (something that she’s heavily wanting to avoid)

    the whole point of the cheating and divorce scheme is that she doesn’t bring shame upon her family, isn’t outcasted by society, and is allowed to have her own assets. carcel being used is not as bad as u make it sound, as the engagement was literally only a label for them (mainly her) and didn’t restrict him in any way. bro was not oppressed or traumatized idk what to tell you? sure it inconvenienced him as a kid but she never controlled, blackmailed, or hurt him. being dumped is not the worst thing that can happen to a person so let’s start there. her divorcing him was meant to benefit him as he can gain a title- something he wasn’t able to do as an unmarried man in the second life. this was her way of repaying carcel’s kindness- giving him a marriage, having his children, providing for his household, boosting his reputation, etc… those are such thoughtful gifts from a person who’s last two marriages left them scarred and hopeless

    levipleasecallmeback November 19, 2023 11:49 am
    Another funny thing is talking about Ines not needing material things. What a joke. Didn’t you read the shopkeeper in the jewelry shop say the material of her black dress is high quality? If she’s not mater... StoryofMinglan

    my god can u not read?? WHERE DID I SAY SHE WASNT MATERIALISTIC. i stated when she was a commoner she didn’t need servants or material things to SURVIVE!!! read the context dude im begging you. in the following paragraph i follow up with how she doesn’t have to deprave herself of the comfort she knows (which includes material things!!) to explain that becoming a nun wasn’t a good option for her because she deserves to have those luxuries and not live a frugal rest of her life. the joke just writes itself atp why do u keep finding a reason to argue with me when it’s literally u misunderstanding my takes. do better

    StoryofMinglan November 19, 2023 1:28 pm
    wow. okay no need to be so aggressive when we view her differently. it just seems like you came to rough conclusions and made her out to be an awful, selfish person. saying i don’t know anything about her was... levipleasecallmeback

    I just love the way you justify her using an innocent kid and judging him for her own selfish reasons. I can see there’s no way that you think she’s wrong for doing this so obviously Ines is never wrong in your eyes. Let’s hope now that her plan is blown she has enough sense to quit since the jig is up and choose another man to use for her plan. She just have to dump Carcel good and proper so that he get the point.

    You might have re-read the manhwa but manhwa doesn’t have everything, Ines said the painter treated her like the princess of a poor country. He crawled on his hands and feet to do everything for her. Ines does not have any practical skills. None. The only thing she has ever done is sew and that isn’t even up to par. In this life, even worst. If she spent four years poor as dirt, why can’t she even sew properly? She never cooked either. I reiterate, she’s never cleaned either. The man did all that for her because he knows she’s a noblewoman. They were not equal in any way. He always called her Lady Inés and treated her that way. It was a upward relationship just like her relationship with Oscar was a downward one. Oscar was higher than her and treated her that way and the painter was lower than her and treated her that way. The only person she’s equal with is Carcel like she condescendingly to,d the butler three chapters ago.

    shuta November 19, 2023 2:11 pm
    Are you being for real right now go to a nunnery because why????? The goal was never to just be alive, it’s to not suffer again. Also she’s a noble dude Uju-chan

    It's always an option, you know? If she wants to be at peace and to not suffer again, she can go to the nunnery? Her mother did, why can't she?

    levipleasecallmeback November 19, 2023 8:01 pm

    lmao weirdo

    “using an innocent kid” all they did was get an engagement. she didn’t manipulate him in any way beyond that nor make his life a living hell. he was literally a free person?? there’s so many other reincarnation manhwa that use marriage/divorce, when they were kids, as a way to survive. how is she any different from them? carcel’s life wasn’t difficult because of it, so yea she’s not in the wrong bud for trying to live an easy life

    also? like i said before if the manhwa is different from the novel of course readers are gonna have different experiences or knowledge. saying “oh manhwa doesn’t have anything!!” to prove me wrong is funny because the webtoon clearly didn’t have the aspects you talked about and it’s always subject to change with little details. im making assumptions based on what the manhwa showed us and it’s such a cop out for u to be like w-well actually novel has this

    No_Name1123 November 23, 2023 2:13 pm
    lmao weirdo “using an innocent kid” all they did was get an engagement. she didn’t manipulate him in any way beyond that nor make his life a living hell. he was literally a free person?? there’s so many... levipleasecallmeback

    Both the manhwa and novel give us Ines’ backstory to help us understand her not justify her. Even she admits many times in the manhwa itself that she’s in the wrong. In one of the previous chapters she even said “I feel bad that you met me” now that she realizes he’s a pretty decent and nice dude. She says many times in the manhwa that he deserves better than her as well. The novel is more detailed sure, but both are conveying the same thing. It’s just more subtle in the manhwa, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there.

    Why would Ines express guilt and state in her thoughts and to him that he deserves better if she’s not at fault? Even Ines knows no matter what she’s been through it’s fucked up that she got an innocent 6 year old involved in this mess indirectly. The more she gets to know him the more she feels bad. Idk why you’re trying to paint her in an innocent light when she herself is acknowledging that she was wrong for that.

    In season 1 she states that based on how he was in her previous lives she knows he likes the military and because of that never wanted to get married and get involved with the royal family. Her forcing him to marry her in this life fucked all of that up. She even says she’ll make up for fucking up his life by getting him a better wife. This is all stated numerous times in the manhwa if you would reread it.

    It’s also disingenuous to say he’s not hurt when in season 1 we could see how she treated him in the flashbacks. She forces him into marriage and then according to carcel she never attended events together with him so he always had to attend alone. She would say she liked him but acted like he didn’t exist and treated him coldly to the point where he got so desperate for attention from his fiancé who claimed to like him that he resorted to cheating. Now he’s also in this weird space where he feels guilty for cheating but he’s also aware that for whatever reason it seems he’s wife wants him to cheat. Of course it’s nothing compared to what she’s been through, but considering he had nothing to do with her trauma and that was all the crown prince’s fault it’s safe to say that carcel doesn’t need to compare his trauma to Ines to be hurt. Even if it’s not as painful or sad as hers he deserves to not go though that because he never did anything to hurt her in her previous lives in the first place.

    levipleasecallmeback November 23, 2023 8:29 pm
    Both the manhwa and novel give us Ines’ backstory to help us understand her not justify her. Even she admits many times in the manhwa itself that she’s in the wrong. In one of the previous chapters she even... No_Name1123

    where am i painting her as innocent or that she doesn’t feel guilty in any way? whole time, im stating that she has reason to follow through with her plans and didn’t do them purely out of good faith. i made my statement to say she’s a complex character that people like you boil her down to “she fucked up his life” when it was only an engagement in name? and you are forgetting the reason why she didn’t attend those events with him was mainly because she was ill the entire time, and carcel even feels guilty for holding that against her

    and this is just personal opinion but her choosing to marry him as a kid not the worst thing that can happen to a him. i wouldn’t say he’s hurt because of it, it’s that he didn’t get attention and his ego/feelings of rejection “pushed” him to cheat. im not excusing either of their actions but acknowledging that she planned this in her best interest and carcels, because she thought he’d take no interest in her. that’s the only reason why he was chosen, because she believed he would not care for her but also stick to being a womanizer. so it’s disingenuous to say she fucked up his life or ruined it when he’s always been able to get his military achievements or have completely freedom; and the marriage would’ve helped him earn a title that he deserved, but couldn’t get, since he was unmarried in his last life

    No_Name1123 November 23, 2023 9:34 pm
    where am i painting her as innocent or that she doesn’t feel guilty in any way? whole time, im stating that she has reason to follow through with her plans and didn’t do them purely out of good faith. i mad... levipleasecallmeback

    I mean I guess we could agree to disagree since as you stated it’s your opinion and this is mine. So I won’t press you regarding that topic.

    However, there are a couple of things that you mentioned that are incorrect. You stated that the marriage does not affect his military achievements and in fact benefits him more since he can gain a better title. But in season 1 Ines herself stated that in the previous lives, while carcel would still have to come back and do his duty anyway, him not being married gave him the freedom away from it for longer. But in this life, due to being forced to marry her, the amount of time he has that “freedom” from his duties is significantly decreased. Additionally, Ines mentioned since carcels grandfather was already very well known in the military for his achievements, carcel doesn’t need any help to gain favors. Ines stated if carcel wanted he could use that to his advantage to go higher. Carcel wouldnt get any title he couldn’t achieve by himself. He doesn’t need to get married for it. He always wanted to be away from royal affairs so why would getting a title help him when it’s the opposite of what he wants?

    Once again, I am not trying to argue against your opinion, I was just correcting your statement about the marriage benefiting him. Because according to Ines it doesnt align with any of the desires carcel has in previous lives. It’s one thing to argue that Ines is not in the wrong, but it’s another thing to act like Ines helped carcel and that him being a pawn benefited him when it obviously didn’t .

    snapplecider November 23, 2023 11:22 pm
    just to give more insight, but why does she have to condemn herself to a life of prayer and servitude in order to survive in peace? y’all saw how terrible her life was when she lived as a commoner before with... levipleasecallmeback

    He does show interest in her for a decade. He kept trying to get close to her for a decade. It was after the decade of no interest from her that he slept around and that's when he stopped showing interest.

    snapplecider November 23, 2023 11:24 pm
    my god can u not read?? WHERE DID I SAY SHE WASNT MATERIALISTIC. i stated when she was a commoner she didn’t need servants or material things to SURVIVE!!! read the context dude im begging you. in the followi... levipleasecallmeback

    She does need servants to survive. When she was living as a commoner, the painter did everything for her. She has no practical skills.

    snapplecider November 23, 2023 11:27 pm
    lmao weirdo “using an innocent kid” all they did was get an engagement. she didn’t manipulate him in any way beyond that nor make his life a living hell. he was literally a free person?? there’s so many... levipleasecallmeback

    His life was different from her forced engagement. In the other lifetimes when he wasn't forced to be engaged, he never married. She forced him into an engagement while also playing with his head. Lying to him that she loves him while also keep turning him away. Lovebomb him from afar while also giving him no interest when he's closeby. These are things the manhwa does show but ppl don't remember reading it. Later it does reveal more that her forcing him into an engagement also put him in danger with the prince who kept wanting to marry her.

    snapplecider November 23, 2023 11:29 pm
    I mean I guess we could agree to disagree since as you stated it’s your opinion and this is mine. So I won’t press you regarding that topic. However, there are a couple of things that you mentioned that are... No_Name1123

    Thank you. Carcel nvr cared about the noble life. He only cares about being a navy man and he doesn't need to marry for that. He's good at his job and got high rank from his own skills. Marrying Ines only makes him the duke's successor so now he's set to be the next duke which he nvr even wanted.

    levipleasecallmeback November 24, 2023 12:06 am
    He does show interest in her for a decade. He kept trying to get close to her for a decade. It was after the decade of no interest from her that he slept around and that's when he stopped showing interest. snapplecider

    i mean that ines herself didn’t see him show romantic interest. ofc he wanted to know her as a person since they were getting married and had a crush, but from ines perspective it didn’t look like he was trying to be anything more, which was the point. he has a different view on their relationship, in that he put in effort to know her, but she wasn’t aware of that. it wasn’t until he settled down in their marriage that she viewed him and his actions differently

    levipleasecallmeback November 24, 2023 12:21 am
    I mean I guess we could agree to disagree since as you stated it’s your opinion and this is mine. So I won’t press you regarding that topic. However, there are a couple of things that you mentioned that are... No_Name1123

    i can’t remember which chapter it was, but in one of the earlier ones it states that he deserved a specific title due to his achievements however because he was unmarried he couldn’t obtain it. i know his family is already powerful and established, but she believed that by giving him the marriage (in accordance to the title from his efforts) it would be a gift from her to him- for what he did in his past life helping her and emanilio. so i wouldn’t say that’s the opposite of what he wants since it’s only a label that would bring him honor? not really that the title itself would force him into participating in nobel duties he doesn’t want to take part of. so rather than correcting there’s also some info u are forgetting as well, because the marriage did benefit him in this way. and she wasn’t trying to dimish his duties by marrying him, because by having his child/divorcing him he’d not only have a child to carry his legacy but could further advance his career and play around like he used to (even though we know now the cheating was only out of spite)

    snapplecider November 24, 2023 2:35 am
    i mean that ines herself didn’t see him show romantic interest. ofc he wanted to know her as a person since they were getting married and had a crush, but from ines perspective it didn’t look like he was tr... levipleasecallmeback

    You're thinking as if he wasn't trying to be anything more. She knows he was trying to be more but didn't want it so she kept turning him away. Her plan had always been to make him cheat to divorce him. She had always been aware of it. She just didn't want it but still string him along bc she needs to marry him for her plan to work.

    snapplecider November 24, 2023 2:38 am
    i can’t remember which chapter it was, but in one of the earlier ones it states that he deserved a specific title due to his achievements however because he was unmarried he couldn’t obtain it. i know his f... levipleasecallmeback

    The only title he will obtain from marrying her is the dukedom which he doesn't want. She just thinks it's helpful to give him an heir because he doesn't want the duke title so if she gives him a child, he can just let their child be the nxt duke and he can skip being duke. She's talking in the assumption that he would've gotten the title anyway bc he's the oldest son but Carcel nvr wanted the title. He nvr married in his past life bc he didn't care for the title. He always tried to wait for Miguel to get older to take the title instead. This is not honor from the navy which he cares for bc he alrdy has honor from the navy just from being good at his job.

    levipleasecallmeback November 24, 2023 6:20 am
    His life was different from her forced engagement. In the other lifetimes when he wasn't forced to be engaged, he never married. She forced him into an engagement while also playing with his head. Lying to him ... snapplecider

    baby, that’s not what love bombing is. and if u say it does happen later and that it’s something to be found out, why spoil it and criticize people who don’t know it’s unrevealed info? like people aren’t misinterpreting her from reading the unfinished webtoon, esp when it’s something that’s not canon yet

    levipleasecallmeback November 24, 2023 6:25 am
    The only title he will obtain from marrying her is the dukedom which he doesn't want. She just thinks it's helpful to give him an heir because he doesn't want the duke title so if she gives him a child, he can ... snapplecider

    ok… so then the point was she thinks the marriage, offspring, and divorce are good for him in some way and wants to grace him with something she believes is a gift? like thank u for clarifying but she doesn’t know that carcel didn’t want the title purposely (do not confirm that because it’s a spoiler)

    the info i’m referencing is from her perspective and it was never stated or denied he didn’t want those things, unless im missing a chapter from the webtoon

    Irene January 9, 2024 1:27 pm

    She was a grown ass women thrice Carcel's age when she chose him to use him. That's pretty fucking weird bro. Yes, her past is incredibly fucked up, but that doesn't make Ines any less weird.

    Poppingcandy2 January 9, 2024 2:18 pm
    She was a grown ass women thrice Carcel's age when she chose him to use him. That's pretty fucking weird bro. Yes, her past is incredibly fucked up, but that doesn't make Ines any less weird. Irene

    please don’t be in my replies if you don’t know shit cause why’re you implying that she’s a pedo lmfaoo

    Irene January 9, 2024 2:22 pm
    please don’t be in my replies if you don’t know shit cause why’re you implying that she’s a pedo lmfaoo Poppingcandy2

    Please don't post on the internet if you are going to assume what other people say. I implied that she was manipulative, not that she was a pedo. There is no "my replies" on the internet. This is a public platform, this ain't your property.

    Poppingcandy2 January 9, 2024 2:27 pm
    Please don't post on the internet if you are going to assume what other people say. I implied that she was manipulative, not that she was a pedo. There is no "my replies" on the internet. This is a public platf... Irene

    What else were you implying other than her being a pedo since “she was weird for choosing carcel when she was thrice is age” in what way is that manipulative lmfao there are times when she was manipulative but this ain’t it go reread it and try your hardest to understand since you can’t

    snapplecider January 10, 2024 1:08 am
    What else were you implying other than her being a pedo since “she was weird for choosing carcel when she was thrice is age” in what way is that manipulative lmfao there are times when she was manipulative ... Poppingcandy2

    There's no implication that she's a pedo when no one even saying she chose Carcel as a love interest. Manipulating a kid doesn't make you a pedo. It just makes you a manipualtor. Some parents manipulate their kids too. Ines was just using a kid to avoid marrying the prince but she don't think about her actions that choosing a kid could put him in harm's way. She forced an engagement and marriage on him when if she's being nicer about it, she could've wait until they're older to get him to agree without needing to force it on him. He couldn't even break the engagement when he wanted to so he was hoping Ines would break it but she didn't.

    Poppingcandy2 January 10, 2024 8:15 am
    There's no implication that she's a pedo when no one even saying she chose Carcel as a love interest. Manipulating a kid doesn't make you a pedo. It just makes you a manipualtor. Some parents manipulate their k... snapplecider

    Completely missing my point

    Irene January 11, 2024 10:35 am
    There's no implication that she's a pedo when no one even saying she chose Carcel as a love interest. Manipulating a kid doesn't make you a pedo. It just makes you a manipualtor. Some parents manipulate their k... snapplecider

    Exactly this, but some mangago users don't have enough braincells to understand that nuance.

    Poppingcandy2 January 11, 2024 2:34 pm
    Exactly this, but some mangago users don't have enough braincells to understand that nuance. Irene

    Calling me dumb when it’s you who worded that shit wrong lmfao don’t blame me for taking your words the way I did. Why didn’t you reply to me instead of that bot who only vomits out unwanted information?

    snapplecider January 11, 2024 8:38 pm
    Calling me dumb when it’s you who worded that shit wrong lmfao don’t blame me for taking your words the way I did. Why didn’t you reply to me instead of that bot who only vomits out unwanted information? Poppingcandy2

    Where did they imply she's a pedo? You're the one bringing that up out of nowhere. For someone who keep saying other ppl don't know sht, you're the one who don't know anything. Even making sht up to fit your narrative about Ines and Carcel. Yes, Ines suffered but it not even trauma making her not accept Carcel. If you know the whole story Ines only don't accept Carcel bc she think as someone guilty, she don't deserve to be happy and Carcel makes her happy. After he confess to her and she got the dream, she now wants to be happy with him and thats why now you see her accepting him. Bringing up her trauma to not accept Carcel is just making excuses for her and not wanting her to be happy. She only don't accept him bc she think as someone who did wrong, she shouldn't be happy so that's like saying she should take her time to not accept Carcel and stay sad for a long time. I nvr even say Ines don't deserve Carcel. Imo she should let herself be happy and accept him. That is my take. Not w/e sht your saying.

    snapplecider January 11, 2024 8:45 pm
    What else were you implying other than her being a pedo since “she was weird for choosing carcel when she was thrice is age” in what way is that manipulative lmfao there are times when she was manipulative ... Poppingcandy2

    If Ines even care to think about other ppl or even learn anything at all, she wouldn't have chose Carcel like that to use him. She made that mistake once with painter and now ridden with guilt about it. She going to make the same mistake again when she finds out that choosing Carcel as a kid put him in danger with the prince who kept trying to kill him all this time to marry Ines. Ines who is ignorant and don't think about these things only think about it after the bad things alrdy happened. Rn she don't think what she did had hurt Carcel for a long time but later on his mother will tell her about how Oscar tried to stab Carcel when they were both very young kids and even now, he keep sending assassins to kill Carcel. Carcel always keep his issues to himself bc he don't want to worry Ines and his parents so Ines don't know what she did hurt him. It's not that Ines or Carcel don't deserve each other but she should should think about her consequences when she does these things. When she chose to use a stranger in past life, that "lover" end up getting killed bc she used him to run away. Did she think the royal family would let them go after what she did?

    Poppingcandy2 January 12, 2024 1:43 pm
    Where did they imply she's a pedo? You're the one bringing that up out of nowhere. For someone who keep saying other ppl don't know sht, you're the one who don't know anything. Even making sht up to fit your na... snapplecider

    both of you illiterate people ganging up on my ass like what “ She was a grown ass women thrice Carcel's age when she chose him to use him. That's pretty fucking weird bro.” this CLEARLY implys that she was way older in age than him and makes it seem that she chose him just because he was a CHILD which was not the reason but that dumbass wrote it in a way that made it seem like that why are you on my ass for that persons wrong wording???? and I rlly dgaf about that second part cause I wasn’t talking about that lol but don’t you get tired repeating shit on and on like a bot omfg pleasseee I get that you’re trying to inform me on stuff but

Poppingcandy2 November 17, 2023 9:59 am

this is pure comedy lmfaooo “I like you can we fuck now” and her reaction GOT ME ROLLING ON THE FLOOR

Poppingcandy2 November 15, 2023 4:39 pm

Did the art change or am I just tripping

Poppingcandy2 November 15, 2023 2:49 pm

S2 is here!!! So happy they’re back Hope to see the uploads sooon

Poppingcandy2 November 15, 2023 9:05 am

I relate to fl omg I still think about moments with my crush and if I see him in real life again..I might fall for him

Poppingcandy2 November 15, 2023 2:44 am

Feel bad for fl

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