ive been reading the comments and its fun asf watching people defend rape like this
You most certainly comment to the page. No one is defending rape here. If you meant jinx and this situation.
It is defending their rape pov with a story that has no rape in it.
If the story has no rape. The ones saying it is not rape but SA and abusive are NoT DefEnDiNg rape.
It is rape rape rape with the haters. I am not a rape defender because you have deluded yourself to believe rape is in the story. I am a rape survivor I donât want anything to do with rape. I donât like Jk. I donât like the story. I am not defending JK. He is not hot. The one defending rape are the haters. They want rape to be there.
hi okay cool but how exactly does it make sense if the people defending rape are the haters, they could just be defending rape in general too seeming as its bad enough - i personally believe there is something happening in this manwha with some non-consenual scenes or heck even when dan is forced to which is most of the plot but hes doing it for the money i understand but its still forceful is it not?? jaek knows dan doesnt want to do it yet hes taking always making it extreme and taking it to the next level, whats your thoughts on this?
It makes sense I thought I explained it. You either skipped it or donât understand. I said pov. Rape pov. My friends would use incest. It is like claiming there is incest in the story. They are defending their incest pov. The ones that canât be incest defender because there is no incest and it is just someoneâs pov. I canât be an incest defender because of their pov. It is ridiculous. So the ones saying it is Sa and abusive canât be rape defenders because someone elseâs pov. The haters kept attacking me knowing I was a rape survivor. They donât care. The ones saying it is SA and abusive are the ones that defended me. They are against rape and one is a rape crisis counselor.
There are some genuine people who see rape but they do start looking closer and at all the details. I am not the one to explain. I dropped this story in August and I am going to give it another chance. I just have not worked myself up to it.
are you sure he is just doing it for money? Are you sure about the force in most of it? Most really? Hey since you read BJ Alex, in Bj Alex DG sleep with MD. What is your thoughts on that? Would you think I am honest and have a conversation or avoid or correcte or labeled me? I gave you wrong information. I did that because some of your details are off or different. Oh my example was an over exaggeration. But with what you describe it could be SA.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14448911/
Donât read the main topics as it is a different topic.
In the post look at TMSM post he does⌠have some of Toraâs material.
He and Tora would be better to ask.
This is my opinion on it but TM and SM are planning to make full comments about to so ai suggest yoh look, theres all sorts of opinions all arohnd the world after all. https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14450828/
oh yeah that could be right, ive seen some of their posts acting as if rape wasnt even a thing i get you there - well its 100% sa, but wouldnt sa and rape fall under the same category as its both non-consensual and quite harming if i am correct?? i certainly think its both too, however im just seeing other peoples take on it and trying to see how it actually correlates to the situation
mb i didnt really take the acronym of âpovâ into consideration, its quite hard for me to understand as english isnt my first language so its all just a bunch of stuff flying at me w terms and uses of sentence structure i do not understand, im sorry and yes i have read bj alex, i dont recall him sleeping w md but in fact question it?? im sorry i read bj alex a really long time ago and it doesnt strike a memory in me. Yeah, i do believe is sa 100% you being a rape survivor should know that more than anything, so wouldnt your point be contradicted?? as i said to toilet terrorist, doesnt sa and rape fall under the same category as they are both non-consensual and as harming?? thank you and sorry for the bad english if i made mistakes
yes i agree with you on your take, i do believe that it was non-consensual in the shower scene and i believe if i can recall dan was not up for it at all, i do think 100% that was rape and both sa as you had stated he was rejecting by doing it, thats a great example to pull up!! but yeah, i mean everyone has different opinions and all i want is a civil conversations to those who do project and force their pov on you disregarding your own opinions. but yes, i agree with you definitely
I dont see anybody defending rape you're right. But you shouldnt lie about the story. It doesnt bring awareness at all i dont know where youre getting this from but having rape in a story doesn't automatically mean you're bringing awareness to it. Mingwa trivialises rape often, if in later chapters she explicitly identifies that it is rape then it doesn't change much because again, this is a love story. Its supposed to be a romance between Dan and Jaekyung. I dont think youre bringing awareness to rape if the rapist and the victim end up together. Dont create some fantasy that this is supposed to bring awareness to the severity of rape, its not. You can enjoy the story without pushing the rhetoric this author has always put into her work.
im sorry but whats it to you?? are you saying that they are defending rape because they like the manwha and yet your saying it has rape so that means they like it because theres rape - you are contradicting yourself you dont make sense at all to me, think what you wrote again since its all jumbled and i dont understand anything. Just because it has rape doesnt mean ill drop it, im just merely expressing my opinion on the fights happening in the comment section
Rape is SA but SA is not rape, of course they arent SO much better than each other but its best you make a distinction. Sexual assault can be groping someone without their permission but rape is always a forced act of intercourse or penetration, be it oral, vaginal or anal. Sexual Violence is an umbrella term that covers all forms of sexual assault and/or sexual abuse. You can call rape sexual assault because it is a form of sexual assault but rape is more specific to what i said above, a forced act of intercourse or penetration.
â ive seen some of their posts acting as if rape wasnt even a thing i get you there - â
What?
First toilet meant âTM and Toraâ and not âTM and SMâ. I am not sure if you are talking about TMSM or Tora and TMSM. Either way the message would be the exact same damn thing. If Tora replied you would get statistical data and links since he is a rape crisis counselor. It is your choice to make it look like you have reading comprehension problems. In no way, shape, or form does any of our posts dismiss the hideous act of rape.
You must had missed where this account said rapist should get life in prison or a death penalty. And Tora has said rapist should get a death penalty. Tora has strong ass opinions. He is deadly serious no jail time, just a death penalty for confirmed rapist.
Just because we donât see rape where you do in a trivial dumbass story doesnât mean we dismiss rape and condone it or a rape apologist. We condemn the act of rape and condemn the rapist.
You are defaming us and you have no evidence to have made that biased claim unless you want to look mental and try to look righteous. New flash: we cared more about the rape survivor, Rose than a stupid opinion in a story when she was attacked we defended her from the haters. She is a real person that NEVER deserves what happened to her. It wasnât her fault. I am glad her rapist is in jail. Sadly, rapists only get a few years of jail time and they are out to rape other. We fight to have more sentence time for rapist or the death penalty because they donât change. We fight to have it easier for a survivor to report. We fight to protect the survivors and to get the backlog up to date. This is a place where Tora would go on about backlogs and why survivors donât report.
So what the hell do you do to protect survivors or change the system to make it easier for survivors or keep rapists in jail? What do you do besides spread misinformation trying to make us look like rape apologist and like we are downplaying something because you see rape in a story when the story actually does or you canât understand an attempt rape or a molestion is a different from rape and are both hideous acts. You donât understand why to differentiate it. Wait until you accidentally make unwanted sexual contact on someone as r they claim rape but if the system canât tell the difference between SA and rape. You would be charged for rape. Then you wished you were not being stupid here to put us a negative view for a damn trivial story when we quoted reality of life. We even posted links. Why make yourself like stupid to degrade others? Did you think you would get a heat reply? You degraded yourself. I am chill. Long messages donât indicate I am upset. I naturally write long messages. I pity you for the lengths you went to be right in a story.
Rape is a form of SA. Not all SA is rape.
Rape is 100% SA. But not all SA is rape.
Chapter 1 Dan showed he had an attempt rape. Attempted rape is SA but not rape. Are you going to say his attempted rape is rape?
Rose isnât say DG slept with MD. She is using an example. She is saying some of the details that person was off. You knew that was off because you read BJ Alex. She read jinx and knows the details were off. She is saying: It is like if you wrote Dan was raped by his boss in a flashback to her. She knows it was an attempt rape.
â Yeah, i do believe is sa 100% you being a rape survivor should know that more than anything, so wouldnt your point be contradicted?? â
What a shitty thing to say. I worry about your mental health. Normal people would not go there.
You kiss someone as you handle her hand but it was unwanted but be labeled a rapist.
JK was sexual abuse in chapter 2. You think that is rape. The uke sexual abusing him is rape?
The only ones forcing a pov are the haters.
See rape or be a sicko rape apologist who needs professional help.
What is what we fight against.
While we seek civil conversation and want to hear others opinions, we donât care what you believe. If you believe Dan is an alien that is on you. Toilet engaged with someone who didnât see anything SA. That is their pov. I question a few things. I would share a few things with them but I would change their opinions or convince them.
We are not really convincing anyone. We are just being straightforward. The ones seeing rape are making look like we are mental or uneducated or anything negative. The forcing isnât really on this side.
hello sorry for bad english i read your paragraph to the best of my ability so im sorry if i get anything wrong since a headache for me since mangago has a small text font and its all so similar. i am sorry but i do not understand why you are attacking me, i never really specified it was you guys in fact i didnt specify at all, i merely gave my opinion on what others were saying and seeing other controversies in the manwha. i am sorry i dont understand i am using translator and i just dont know its all so very lengthy and i wish there was some nutshell to explain this all. but i dont think rape is right at all if that is what you are saying i am not experienced in this area so i was only asking questions, i am human, i get things wrong from time, we all do because we are human, please do not be so rude for misunderstanding
oh i am sorry for misunderstanding then, ive seen many people say that you guys have been forcing your pov a lot by stalking them or spamming them constantly in their comments about your views when they did not care so i took it from there, i guess you guys kind of rub off that way but i know it is not intentional. even though we have different views i still come to respect yours and understand, its just everything is all over the place and i only listened to those who were saying those things
I am sorry you see my messages as attacks. Can you please direct me to my sentences that you see as attacks? I try not to attack anyone.
I am assertive. I can be aggressive. My statement âYou are degrading yourself.â Is a from your words. âYou are degrading yourself by your own words.â I wasnât attacking you. It is an observation. My words are assertions on your words. My words are not on you. I am writing this comment differently. Is this comment easier to understand?
And we can blame many elements here on your pointing out you did not specify say who.
First, we can blame Mangagoâs comment structure. That would lead to blaming me. I didnât see Toiletâs first comment. I didnât see that youâre were responding to the first comment. Your response was after Toiletâs second reply that specifically mentioned me. I thought you were responding to his second. I thought his second comment was his first comment. However, who else would you be referring to that has been consistent. There are many that comes and goes. I donât think you referring to a person who make one to six comments. The few people that has many 10 or more comments never acted like rape wasnât a thing. This is about someone defending a pov. Manhwascpicy, Tora, and Rose have not been as persistent as I have been. Tora can be. Yes, there are many people who you could be talking about but show me who is acting rape wasnât even a thing that is saying it is 100% just SA not rape? I am sorry if you were not talking about me and âmy groupâ.
I wasnât rude. Rape is wrong. Use a different translator. That translator is awful! What is your language?
What is that translator. I want to report it for bad translation. I said rape is hideous. What kind of translator says the opposite? Bad translation. It made me sound rude?
We can blame bad translations. We can blame believing lies. We can blame many things. It seems we had a misunderstanding, maybe.
I donât think you or me are at fault.
I think I blame the people spreading misinformation about us.
âIâve not seen one person till now defending r*apeâ (ââŚâ )
(ââŚâ ). Fictional rape? Please tell me it is fictional.
I have seen a perpetrator defending Necrophilia in court. It was sickening. Judge waited until he left to have a 30 minute recess and his case was the first.
Now, I hesitate to sit in the courtroom when my brother is handling his cases.
I think it is a misunderstanding. A misunderstanding from bad translations and false misinformation.
Jk is sexual abused in chapter 2. Jk does not want the man to touch him in chapter 2. Jk was sexually abused by the man. That is 100% SA. You didnât want to differentiate SA and rape. I was asking you how is JK raped by that man.BUT you understand now.
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/jinx/uu/br_chapter-129888/pg-13/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/jinx/uu/br_chapter-129888/pg-15/
I was talking about fictional r*pe in Jinx and I meant that I've not seen one person defending r*pe (I meant that I've not seen one person who said that what the seme did to uke was NOT r*pe) I said this because somewhere at the beginning of this comment thread someone said that all they see are people being defensive about the uke's "situation" I'm saying situation because uke is prostituting himself and I don't know if it's okay to call it r*pe if they are getting money but I do think its sa. But I'm not sure because I'm not that educated in these matters which involves a lot of words and a lot of beating around the bush but whatever.
Also at the end of the day if media (books, television, Internet etc.) stops putting works of r*pe, necr*philia, p*rn*graphy, su*c*de, m*rder, ped*philia etc. It doesn't mean that they will stop existing.
oh goodness, more jinx drama all im hearing is impersonation, so who is impersonating who???
There's this pedo who admitted to grooming a minor Morning diamonds on mangago and he's using another alt account called Safety advocate to defend his rape defending views. Yeah he needs to be locked up
Cyberstalker Aloha is referring to her other two accounts.
Cyberstalker impersonator 1
*Profile #1 impersonating "I love morning Diamonds aka me"
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3703695/home/
(the one that emailed the minor to set up the real user.)
*Profile #2 impersonating Aloha.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3704978/home/
(the account above spreading lies)
*Profile #3 impersonating me
https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3704977/
That's his other account ^ When he's exposed like that he tends to pull out whatever he can from his ass to deflect his actions
Cyberstalker impersonating Aloha who is the pedo and has admitted to.
Itâs essential to recognize that opinions can differ, and respectful dialogue is crucial. However, harassment and impersonation are unacceptable behaviors, regardless of differing viewpoints. lying is unacceptable too.
The cyberstalkers are allowed to feel they way they do but I am sorry the cyberstalkers feel that way to lie and lie.
Yeah now that you've literally been proven to groom by the same minor AND even admitted to it yourself, just saying anything and everything won't pass for you
The cyberstalkers are allowed to feel they way they do but I am sorry the cyberstalkers feel that way to lie and lie. A lie is a lie.
wait i haven't looked at bailey's photo proof but if even morning diamonds is claiming photoshop as a lame last resort excuse then there's rly fcked up incriminating shit he's said?? LMAOOOO
THAT'S WHY HE'S BEING SO DEFENSIVE ABOUT IT AND DEFLECTING HAHHHAHQ
Switching accounts that impersonating other user to confuse others thinking there are two people lying is unacceptable.
The cyberstalkers are allowed to feel they way they do but I am sorry the cyberstalkers feel that way to lie and lie. A lie is a lie.
Keep crying pedo
Only the cyberstalkers are crying and they have claimed to be pedo hiding behind their targets as they cry cry cry.
"Morning Diamond prove me wrong" they cry.
"Morning Dimonds called me out on my bad behavior" they cry.
As they whine they decided to impersonate him. Not acceptable behavior.
As they weep and wallow in hate they decided to frame their target as a pedo. Not acceptable behavior.
They weep and weep as they deflect their behaviors onto them. Their set up, their unacceptable behaviors, and the lies don't define the real person. It defines themselves as they cry about Morning Diamonds proving them wrong and calling them out of the behaviors they can't take accountability for. They are responsible for their behavior and they cannot blame their target for their problems. Their actions has consequences.
The cyberstalkers are allowed to feel they way they do but I am sorry the cyberstalkers feel that way to lie and lie. A lie is a lie.
Good, you're obedient at least
then what did HELPMELMAO do??
She said Jaekyung is a rapist. He's not. LMAO is therefore a gaslighting troll hater.
hey boo