Ok so I get that Taegun has trauma from that other fucker but why can't he like Eunseong?
His fuckass ex tricked, deceived and used him, so the trauma should be about getting tricked and used again. But Taegun is not scared of that. Instead, the gravity analogy indicates that he's scared of Eunseong getting tired of loving Taegun because Taegun won't love him back.
But why won't Taegun love him back? Why would he reject Eunseong if he asked to date?
Taegun already talks like Eunseong is so important to him, he couldn't live without him but for some reason, he doesn't love him?
This writing just makes Taegun sound like an ass, expecting Eunseong to love him forever without ever being loved back.
Maybe Taegun does not know if he can fall in love again after that asshole of an ex but then his thoughts should be more along the lines of "Can Eunseong keep loving me even if I cannot give him normal love back?"
I hate when authors just slap the trauma label on characters and use that to avoid explaining their character's behavior. Our actions have reasons, even trauma responses do!
It would make so much more sense if Taegun was paranoid about Eunseong only trying to get into his pants, about Eunseong switching up the second they're in an official relationship, paranoid about having missed little red flags, anything. But no, we get nothing. Just "I won't date him" for no reason.
TLDR: Taegun's trauma is not well-written.
I think its because taegun thinks he is attracted to eunseong because of his guiding powers. He thinks that his attraction to eunseong is physiological and not emotional, so he's testing the waters, but he knows that could give eunseong the wrong idea that he likes him back, and taegun fears that by the time they reach that point he won't be able to leave eunseong since he would have let himself depend on him completely, but he also wouldn't want to be in a relationship with him due to his trauma+ thinking he is physically attracted to eunseong only. You need to remember that eunseong is an s rank guide, just being in his presence relaxes you, and that could be mistaken for romantic attraction.
im not exatcly disagreeing with you (just trying to talk), but it’s not a reach to think that someone who was betrayed by their s/o would be scared/stop believing in love, is it? betrayal -> becomes disillusioned with romantic love and relationships -> scared of being hurt again -> starts avoiding love entirely. you could argue that his avoidance is one of the consequences of his trauma, and his core trauma surrounds betrayal/trust. and tbh i’m not sure but i Think that in the beginning taegun was careful and suspicious abt eunsung! so in the current chapters he’s now turning to the next excuse to avoid eunsung/getting hurt, which is the whole spiral abt doubting the permanece of feelings and all that
I agree! I just think that this thought process should be explained better instead of relying on the reader to remember and understand his trauma and infer the whole process of reaching that conclusion.
In the chapter, his trauma was not mentioned at all. While for most people, it's something ever-present that shapes all decisions.
I'm not even asking for much, I would be happy with one additional panel showing his thought process. Maybe even one sentence: "After [the horrible ex], I don't think I can ever truly love again". If we're being fancy, another: "But will that be enough for Eunseong?"
Yes but what exactly would change in a relationship? They are already going on dates, having sex whenever Taegun needs guiding and they are getting along well.
Realistically, the only thing that would change is maybe living together but that's not even a must.
If Taegun really is only worried about this not being enough for Eunseong, then shouldn't he just talk to him and ask?
THIS people hate when those with trauma don’t fall into the role/idea they’ve made up in their head and it’s so insane to me, just cause someone with this specific trauma is this way doesn’t mean someone else with the same trauma will be that exact way either!
They get mad when they don’t act how they want but he’s super realistic because trauma works in weird ways! You won’t always know why someone does the thing they do because it changes them!! You want them to be a certain way and it doesn’t make sense to you cause someone isn’t acting the way that is normally portrayed because every victim is DIFFERENT!!!
It makes me so mad when people who read books like this that have trauma in it and people never understand it, logic doesn’t always back up what they say, do , act, react etc.
You obviously did not get what I mean. But you expect every reader to get Taegun's trauma without a proper explanation?
I have a degree in psychology and trauma is not a lottery box that spews out random behavior. Trauma is a/multiple bad experiences, producing a deep-rooted (exaggerated or even irrational) fear. This fear causes patients to do whatever they can to avoid anything related to the situation they fear. Taegun's trauma is portrayed to be about getting deceived and used, so he should fear and avoid deception. His behavior in chapter 64 of the unofficial translation does not fit this. This leaves two options: 1. his behavior is not because of his drama and Taegun is just an ass, 2. his behavior is because of his trauma but the author failed to explain it well (or it got lost in translation, we'll have to wait for the officials for that).
Right now, Taegun's behavior is basically like saying "I hate cherries and that's why I don't eat plums". It doesn't make sense. It can make sense tho if the speaker always bites on the kernel by accident. Background information like that is needed to understand and make sense of statements and people.
But in the current version, the background info, link between the trauma and behavior, Taegun's thought process, whatever you wanna call it, is missing.
Also, it's ok if others in the manhwa don't understand Taegun, I don't expect them to but we readers are basically living inside Taegun's mind. We literally read his thoughts. And they don't make sense. So I complained that it is not explained better.
Now you complain about people (me) not understanding trauma but how are they/we ever supposed to understand if no one explains??
And then people like you wonder why right-wing politicians treat mentally ill people like lesser humans that aren't capable of reason.
My comment was yes using you as an example but I was mainly talking about others blaming him, and not understand were he’s coming from which is frustrating as someone with similar experiences as him. So yes I was mostly speaking from an emotional standpoint
But your last sentence is so weird to me because that doesn’t make sense with what I said, not to mention I personally have trauma and mental illness that effect my daily life so I’d think I’d know a thing or two about not being seen as a normal person, assuming that of all things is highly odd to box me into that category.
which kind of leads me to my second point
because I have trauma I said what I said because to me it makes sense as to why he’s acting that way! I thought it was perfectly reasonable, explained and realistic! Thank you for the info you learned while studying genuinely and truly but the thing you said “he should fear this and that” but who says he can’t fear multiple things at once?
Your initial comment came off as if you were blaming him for being used and having the trauma that surrounds him (you were criticizing it seems but some of ur wording comes off as blaming instead) and from my interpretation he also seemed to have been SA’d which will naturally make him be over cautious of who he lets in no matter how good they are to him! It takes time and patience to learn to trust again.
But yes it most definitely is either
A. An author situation which wouldn’t be surprising as they never treat trauma with the care it needs and deserve in any media I’ve consumed or B it can most definitely be a translation problem
This is what I meant! I don’t study it but I just dont like when people put us/those with mental illnesses and trauma in a box of sorts and tell us “well people this this mostly act like this so you have to act this way! Or it’s not valid and confusing!” (Something ive been told) not coming after you or op just trying to make my point more clear
Omg can this man do anything else in this timeline other than wallow in self-pity? He is not sure if he has the right to beg? Yeah sure, Ido just doesn't have the heart to be told No to his face after going all out and begging Sejin to take him back. Ffs at least give Sejin that satisfaction (he would probably take Ido back).
But no, Ido is just lurking, waiting like a damn coward for Sejin to handle the whole situation and I hate that. The choices Sejin now has are 1. go back to that relationship with Ido (which has always been rather cold and oppressive) or 2. be alone with his trauma. Those choices suck, I totally get why Sejin is hesitant.
Ido should at least give Sejin an idea of what to expect in the relationship to help Sejin choose. Will Ido be kind and loving this time? Or will he still keep his distance? Will he try his best to make Sejin happy or will he keep being the deadbeat he's being right now?
I agree. I'm getting tired of seeing Ido give mixed signals to Sejin. He wanted to keep seeing Sejin so he make opportunities where he can, and tell Sejin that the choice is for Sejin to make but then, whenever Sejin wanted to take that first step, he say something confusing that'll make Sejin take a step back from choosing again like what happened when Ido say that he ALMOST THROW his feelings for Sejin away without elaborating what he mean entirely. I hope next chapter he finally lay bare his feelings and ask Sejin for forgiveness, and whether he takes him back or not, I hope Ido will have balls to accept it.
I'll always hate the "I love you but I don't think you do, so instead of feeling out the situation or telling the truth, I'll say hurtful shit until you ruin the relationship and it's not my fault anymore" trope. Fucking hell.
Also them having sex was like soooo obvious. As if we didn't all know that seme bought the talisman shit so hard, he'll probably think he'll die if they don't do "the ritual" every day. I know the uke is portrayed to be stupid but man, did he expect the seme to go "oh honey, if you're not in the mood, we'll do it tomorrow, no prob, love you"???
I need more ukes to go the "seme is fucking ME right now, instead of this hussy, so lemme try to hook him forever" route instead of throwing childish tantrums the whole damn time.











I'm not usually into switches but I feel like I've read so many manhwas lately with some banter about switching and it never happened, atp even I'm getting impatient to see it happen ( ̄∇ ̄")