vincent3003 October 16, 2023 1:04 am

This is part of a collection of stories about Viper gang (gayng

vincent3003 October 14, 2023 6:43 pm

Not the author shoving as many clichés/tropes in here as possible
1. Rich top & poor or indebted bottom
2. Top with HUGE dick/body & bottom with effeminate body
3. Top is rough/forceful with bottom (non/dub-con)
4. Top knew bottom from childhood/years before

I’M SICK

    MangaSanctuary October 14, 2023 7:08 pm

    We're on the same boat on this.
    I'm so fed up with the Endebted trope that I thought I may just put 1 * to the next K Yaoi with that sob excuse of scenario.
    I know it's an easy and tempting plot device but writers need to find something else. This is clearly lazy writing.
    There are actually MORE stories about Endebted Ukes/MLs than normal characters who are not in debts. It's getting too much...

    FknPRETTY October 14, 2023 7:08 pm

    This!

    shu October 14, 2023 9:02 pm

    They can use your points million times and I'd still sell.
    We read it . We curse it . We read again. We get spiraled.
    So much plot with same setting and they're still rolling out more.
    Pretty much evident.

    MangaSanctuary October 14, 2023 9:39 pm
    They can use your points million times and I'd still sell. We read it . We curse it . We read again. We get spiraled.So much plot with same setting and they're still rolling out more.Pretty much evident. shu

    Cause we don't have anything else to put under the teeth and we're yaoi addicted...!!! Σ(っ°Д °;)っ Yaoi Mangas aren't much uploaded nor updated anymore, and all we get are these Rich x Poor or childhood friends Mangas romance

vincent3003 October 14, 2023 2:24 am

If you guys hate it so much, please absolutely continue fucking reading it and commenting here. As a non-reader, I look forward to each 2nd, 12th, and 22nd of every month so I can get my dose of entertainment and Jaekyung hate

vincent3003 October 8, 2023 6:39 am

Did y’all really read 87 chapters of this not realizing Sangwoo’s autistic?? He’s been brought up in a very conservative society and used his logic and literal interpretation of this society to deduce why heterosexual relations are the norm, gay marriage is illegal, etc etc. Of course he’s gonna struggle a bit with a new relationship and feelings that clash with this world he thought he figured out

    Ghost October 8, 2023 7:16 am

    Yes! I have thought this for a while now. It seems like he has a hard time building connections with others and so far Jaeyoung has been the only one he has actually gotten close with. Before, he believed that romantic desire only occurs for the purpose of producing offspring, and since he has a hard time building connections and has never had any desires for someone, it only makes sense that this would be a situation he cannot fully grasp at the moment.

vincent3003 October 7, 2023 7:14 pm

istg y’all are so used to lightsabers you don’t know what real dicks look like if y’all ever fuck a man in real life, I hope you’re not expecting a glowing white lightsaber when he takes his pants off

    randy October 7, 2023 7:27 pm

    please i am one of these people. i am so used to lightsabers that i hoped for the man i were to fuck irl to not have the detailed real looking dicks

    vincent3003 October 7, 2023 7:31 pm
    please i am one of these people. i am so used to lightsabers that i hoped for the man i were to fuck irl to not have the detailed real looking dicks randy

    You hope a real man won’t have a real looking dick?? fuck a trans guy or a woman with a strap on then

    randy October 7, 2023 7:33 pm
    You hope a real man won’t have a real looking dick?? fuck a trans guy or a woman with a strap on then vincent3003

    haha ayo chill i was just kidding pls dont jump on me

    vincent3003 October 7, 2023 7:44 pm
    haha ayo chill i was just kidding pls dont jump on me randy

    Nah it’s all jokes here too but nothing wrong with fucking trans men and women with strap ons tho

vincent3003 September 28, 2023 8:27 pm

Bro’s got life destroyingly low self esteem

    empressamanya September 28, 2023 10:19 pm

    No deadass his self esteem is so low the scanlation and the official translation hurts my heart

    sh1tlord September 28, 2023 11:55 pm

    he did say he has depression in a very early chapter

    empressamanya September 29, 2023 2:44 am
    he did say he has depression in a very early chapter sh1tlord

    We can definitely tell and see

vincent3003 September 28, 2023 6:36 am

Like I am screaming, crying, begging on my KNEES for some switch content here. Bro’s uncomfortable and would like his boyfriend to make a compromise. Like come the fuck on. I’m convinced none of these lady Korean authors have met a gay dude because even Troye Sivan isn’t a strict bottom only

vincent3003 September 20, 2023 7:26 pm

Should I read the goofy Zinchan translations or wait for juju hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    vincent3003 September 20, 2023 7:27 pm

    The megabrain strat is to simply learn Korean and buy the raws

vincent3003 September 18, 2023 7:30 pm

This was my favorite scene from the novel too. It was so impactful and really showed Yoohan’s character

    Gaarmeri September 18, 2023 7:39 pm

    Right?? And the way everyone reacted! Especially Wacko cause he KNOWSssss, ugh it's so good. My favorite sc ne is when Wacko first visits Yoohan after he wakes up and makes him do the thing, but that's mainly because I loved how UNHINGED he is haahaha

    I need this to live. September 18, 2023 8:23 pm

    Does the novel have happy ending? I don't want my baby to die!

    vincent3003 September 18, 2023 8:53 pm
    Does the novel have happy ending? I don't want my baby to die! I need this to live.

    The translation I’m reading right now isn’t finished yet, but from what I’ve gathered from previous translations, yes. It is a happy ending with our wacko ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Hoshi September 18, 2023 9:41 pm
    The translation I’m reading right now isn’t finished yet, but from what I’ve gathered from previous translations, yes. It is a happy ending with our wacko ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~ vincent3003

    Where are you reading the translation?! I read it from watpad before but it was so shitty I had to drop it halfway through

    Gaarmeri September 18, 2023 10:03 pm
    Where are you reading the translation?! I read it from watpad before but it was so shitty I had to drop it halfway through Hoshi

    I read that MTL to completion, but I believe there were people working on a better one? I've seen it on novelupdates, though I haven't read it.

vincent3003 September 15, 2023 4:33 pm

Is this worth reading? If so, should I read it before or after I read BJ Alex (I haven’t read that either)?

    Re__zeroo September 15, 2023 4:40 pm

    Its shit

    P00per September 15, 2023 4:45 pm

    Don't bother. I wasted mental energy reading this absolute bullshit

    That Fujoshi September 15, 2023 4:52 pm

    If you like reading smut with beautiful art, then go ahead but keep in mind that the plot is basically a dump of sh*tload so yeah

    BelovedRose September 15, 2023 5:02 pm

    Read BJ Alex first. It is finished. It is great.
    This one is a bit darker than BJ Alex, but it is following the same patterns.
    At this point of time, there are many haters here. The the story is so popular. In the first few chapters it’s heavily debate
    if it is rape/SA or just Sa
    if the ML is a rapist or Sexual Abuser..
    The first two responses are haters.

    I don’t like this story. But people do love it. It is very popular. If you take the chance to understand it is SA and abusive at first. It is toxic. He is toxic. Those actions are not defendable. He does have good actions too.

    Genuine readers - I will be respectful
    Haters— I am a rape survivor. I will attack you losers back. You can go fuck yourselves. I am not defending Jk. I don’t like him. Don’t be sick.

    P00per September 16, 2023 2:40 am
    Read BJ Alex first. It is finished. It is great. This one is a bit darker than BJ Alex, but it is following the same patterns. At this point of time, there are many haters here. The the story is so popular. In ... BelovedRose

    Someone needs to grow up and realize people have opposing opinions it seems. Kid I used to get up in arms about shit I loved too but this is so sad

    vincent3003 September 16, 2023 3:02 am

    Thanks y’all. I’ll read BJ Alex first, and then if I have a morbid curiosity, I’ll read this too. From what I’ve heard though, Jaekyung rapes Dan right? That makes him a rapist… you can’t “undo” rape and become not-a-rapist-anymore

    BelovedRose September 16, 2023 3:42 am

    To pooper. Sounds like you do. If I was wrong, belittling me only supports what I said. Grow up and realize it had nothing to with opposing opinions!
    What are you talking about? Did you stop after you read“ The first two responses are haters.” If you read on
    “ I don’t like this story.”
    I read this in August and I hate it.
    It reminded me of my rape. But after being cyber bullied and being told to go kill myself. I am giving it a second chance. I never loved it. You changed my opinion, belittled me, and blocked me. That is saying you are a hater.
    So please grow up and stop making foolish arguments to belittle people. If someone is wrong do the right thing.

    BelovedRose September 16, 2023 3:49 am
    Thanks y’all. I’ll read BJ Alex first, and then if I have a morbid curiosity, I’ll read this too. From what I’ve heard though, Jaekyung rapes Dan right? That makes him a rapist… you can’t “undo”... vincent3003

    Most of the ones saying JK rape Dan and he is a rapist are the haters who hate rape culture and hate the popularity of this story. They are trying to get rid of readers. There are genuine readers that can come to that conclusion. It is their pov. But the truth story pov is it’s not rape. It is Sexual abuse and abusive. It is their first few times. There are part that it seems like rape but the next part changes it. If you get to understand it correctly it is SA and abusive. Most of the haters will gave you fake info on the story too. There are honest people here. Don’t trust the negative reviews. Rape is a pov. It is cherry picking to a pov. They are obsessed. Most are young kids.

    BelovedRose September 16, 2023 3:57 am

    To pooper. We are not petty. Thanks for being petty and exposing yourself as a hater. https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14453533/

    Also chronically online don’t fit us. First i only sign in yesterday or two days ago after a month of not being here.
    And TMSM has multiple people. TM + SM are just the knowing ones. Your insults = insecurities.
    Hater 100%. Exposed. It had nothing to do with opinions.

    That Fujoshi September 16, 2023 5:06 am
    Thanks y’all. I’ll read BJ Alex first, and then if I have a morbid curiosity, I’ll read this too. From what I’ve heard though, Jaekyung rapes Dan right? That makes him a rapist… you can’t “undo”... vincent3003

    Yes, even bj alex has dubious consent (I don't remember if it has r*pe cuz I read it a long time ago) And yes I agree a r*pist can't ever undo their action. But at the end of the day the if the bottoms forgive them and since its all fictional, there's really no need to get that mad over something fictional. Personally I consider every work as art and I try my best to respect them and also support few artists too.

    P00per September 16, 2023 6:12 pm
    To pooper. We are not petty. Thanks for being petty and exposing yourself as a hater. https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14453533/Also chronically online don’t fit us. First i only sign in yesterday or tw... BelovedRose

    Omg your attitude is sooo hot

    P00per September 16, 2023 6:13 pm
    To pooper. We are not petty. Thanks for being petty and exposing yourself as a hater. https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14453533/Also chronically online don’t fit us. First i only sign in yesterday or tw... BelovedRose

    Also there is no way in the 8th layer of hell I'm reading your incel essay, make as many lists to bully ppl as you want, your words matter less than shit boii

    toilet terrorist September 16, 2023 6:24 pm
    Yes, even bj alex has dubious consent (I don't remember if it has r*pe cuz I read it a long time ago) And yes I agree a r*pist can't ever undo their action. But at the end of the day the if the bottoms forgive ... That Fujoshi

    BJ alex does have rape, read through chaps 20-26 .
    Idk man writjng a story about how a victim forgives their rapist and falls in love with them might a lit~tle problematic.

    That Fujoshi September 16, 2023 6:45 pm
    BJ alex does have rape, read through chaps 20-26 .Idk man writjng a story about how a victim forgives their rapist and falls in love with them might a lit~tle problematic. toilet terrorist

    Yes, I don't remember the r*pe but I do remember the dubcon cuz I read it a long time ago. And as for the part you're saying is problematic, you said it, it's a story! It's fictional. And let me tell you just one thing, reading anything in a manga/manhua/webtoon etc. And taking it for what happens real world is problematic. I really don't know what problems people face after reading a normal yaoi (yes, you read it right, all yaoi normally have sa and mentions of sa except a few hanful and yes I've proof!) because they simply just don't need to read it unless they're just have so much time on their hands and have nothing better to do then picking fights over fictional characters! For eg- I don't like reading shota and loli, and yaoi where uke falls in love with a cold seme, gets sa-ed by him for a stupid reason, then misunderstanding clears and they get together and fall in love and live on happily forever like the sa never happened (happens in most of old yaoi mangas before 2010) but I've never read them on purpose and have left hateful comments to other readers or given them death threats so its different people's mentality that's problematic not a work of art. Don't wanna pick fights but am just stating facts

    toilet terrorist September 16, 2023 7:35 pm
    Yes, I don't remember the r*pe but I do remember the dubcon cuz I read it a long time ago. And as for the part you're saying is problematic, you said it, it's a story! It's fictional. And let me tell you just o... That Fujoshi

    Shota and loli is just illustarated child pornography, you're not a saint for not leaving hateful comments on that. Calling ICP a work of art is the real issue i have here, i think i can agree that sending death threats and hateful comments to most artists isnt okay but not for ICP producers. Im willing to go out of my way to send hate to those vile people, i dont think thats necessarily problematic as much as it is me willing wasting my time insulting degenerates. Of course there are people who are gonna think im wrong for that but i dont mind. Sorry for centering this around ICP producers i just thought it was weird to mention that having a mentality where you send death threats to anybody (including who produce content catered to pedophiles) is wrong. I guess going and insulting normal artists isnt okay though i can understand what you mean while also not agreeing with a lot of your statement.
    Not trying to fight here either i just want to share my opinion on this. Rape does happen in the real world so creating a story that pushes a narrative that rape isnt such a big deal and it can be moved passed as an obstacle in your relationship is very much impactful on the real world. Content that contributes to rape culture is harmful and pointing it out is not problematic. Of course, its not like BJ Alex is the most disgusting thing on the planet but small things build up to create a bigger problem. The trivialisation of sexual violence, in rape culture, due to a consistent rhetoric spread by media. This has existed for ages but you have to add fuel to a fire to keep it burning and thats what this content does. Nobody is necessarily wrong for reading it of course because we're not supporting these artists but the authors really need to do better.

    vincent3003 September 17, 2023 1:18 am
    BJ alex does have rape, read through chaps 20-26 .Idk man writjng a story about how a victim forgives their rapist and falls in love with them might a lit~tle problematic. toilet terrorist

    Oh wow thank you for the heads up. If I went into it without knowing after everyone sang praises about BJ Alex, I would have been very surprised. I agree that it’s problematic; it gives rape apologists a weapon to use against victims. “Why can’t you just forgive your rapist? Why can’t you move on?” Etc.

    toilet terrorist September 17, 2023 1:25 am
    Oh wow thank you for the heads up. If I went into it without knowing after everyone sang praises about BJ Alex, I would have been very surprised. I agree that it’s problematic; it gives rape apologists a weap... vincent3003

    Thats true, do enjoy the work though, its still very entertaining..at least to me. Its also an easier pill to swallow because the artstyle is way less realistic compared to Jinx.

    That Fujoshi September 17, 2023 6:01 am
    Shota and loli is just illustarated child pornography, you're not a saint for not leaving hateful comments on that. Calling ICP a work of art is the real issue i have here, i think i can agree that sending deat... toilet terrorist

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