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Welp just finished the most recent chapter in the novel and just as you’d expect from your typical BL of course the prince proceeds to rape Abel as Abel sobs for him to stop on literally the dirt because we just had to have that. I’m truly exhausted by this genre. Literally can never have something nice.
This is why I say that those who want fluffy things to read the manhwa and disregard the novel. From the debauchery
at the palace, the constant carnage, the way cannon fodders are killed, they were all brutal and the manhwa does not do it justice. Indeed the novel was very dark compared to the manhwa but the most glaring difference is Karas' character. In manhwa, we get to see Karas pov, he's drawn to be more laid back and we get to see him be comedic with other characters. Novel Karas is none of those, he's like an entirely different character.
I understand this and I’ve been reading the novel for some time so I was aware of all of this. My issue is literally what it the point of having Karas rape Abel and then as we all know it will be waved away without any regard as just a growing pains of their relationship. It’s disgusting and how this genre as a whole continues to romanticize rape in every facet is truly baffling
I've read the novel sometime ago and I wished I stopped reading after vol 7 lol I've always had a hunch that Karas would become unhinged with Abel, the writings were on the wall since Abel died especially when all he did in his entire life was to kill and Abel failed to be there for him during crucial times when growing up.
I'm actually surprised Karas held up for a long time. I'm in no way justifying what he did to Abel but that just fit Novel!Karas. Karas is a dragon personified, matter of fact he's even more powerful than the original dragon and the original dragon was already apathetic to humans, and it got magnified during the years Abel was dead. Karas was shown to have "human" emotions as a child. He laughed with Abel, he asked for others help if needed (Ashler), even opened up to others (the first nanny that initially was not scared of him).
But his humanity died the moment original Abel perished, and sadly he never regained it again even after Abel was reincarnated. There are just some people that you can't fix, even in real life; and in this novel, Karas was unfortunately one of those.
And again I agree with all of what you’ve said but what is the point then of the story. Are we suppose to simply ignore that Abel was brutally raped no less and then still envision the continuation of their relationship as some sort of epic love story not bound by even death? What is insulting is the lead up acknowledging your very point and how Karas’s council of men attempt to educate Karas to ensure this very occurrence does not occur, only for it happen and what Abel suppose to not have any trauma his very first sexual experience somehow continue to “love” the prince like some happy idiot that he’s already been written to be? It’s just so bizarre and so badly written if this is the case. I should have lowered my expectations but just wow.
^^^ lasting trauma
I read your comment because I was so excited for what's to come, but that's so fucking disappointing... I totally agree with your take on this, rape has been too normalized in this genre and in this case is just so unnecessary. Let's hope the manhwa takes a different turn...
I'm saying that I was half-expecting that Karas would do that to Abel even when "educated" by his knights given how unstable and unpredictable he was in the novel. But yeah, awful and still caught me off guard a little. That's why I said I wished I stopped reading after vol 7
I highly doubt it. If I learned anything this genre LOVES rape. It will be drawn, written, and very much eaten up with a smile and giggle. I thought Japanese BL was bad back in its day but Korean drawn BL takes the cake in just drawing “aesthetic”rape and it being eaten up by the masses. It’s ironic cause it’s literally the same with South Korea’s biggest modern global contribution of K-Pop being bubble gum coded indentured servitude.
Oh... I didn't expect that... So this is one of "THOSE" manhwa huh? I'm so disappointed. I'm gonna stop reading this for a while and come back if the manhwa is not gut wretching than the novel. My poor abel :< I would rather abel not to be reincarnated, than to experience that sh*t. Ugh I hate you author!
Yeah, that's right... Hope is the last thing to die, but in this case I'll drop my expectations really low. I'm just so sick of this... :(
Oh the cheating in the old school yaoi and angst in general too. There is a lot of explicitly drawn out rape, I don’t see the necessary explanation for that. It adds nothing, an implication of the rape is totally fine. What’s even worse is that the author brushes the rape off afterwards: when the rapist don’t get punishment, when there is no trauma response, it’s just overlooked(?).
I am hoping for a golden age where perhaps this can be less normalised in the BL community. I’m not sure for the Chinese BLs, but the ones I have read have little to no rape—very plot focused and world building. Although, I have come across some opposite to that.
Heavy agree on the Korean/Manhwas drawing rape, I’ve seen it too much.
let's all just hope the manhwa adaptation doesn't go that way<3
What is it about abuse and toxic relationships that people find sexy to read and watch? Why is it the number one utilized trope in most genres across the board, that continues to gather audiences from all ages and backgrounds?
I guess you haven’t been corrupted, yet.
Meh. Relationship? Hit and run is better.
Because readers find conflicts intriguing. We like seeing characters being challenged to overcome a situation (which may or may not be resolved). Most fiction is based on some element of conflict, all of which span every genres of manga:
man vs. man
man vs. self
man vs. society
man vs. supernatural
man vs. tech/machinery
We're all just there for the sex
Lmao
Honestly fluff is so boring. Like for 80 chapters all the uke and seme do is UWU each other, not even a fukin kiss. Blush here, Blush there…. UGHHHH So boring. I just want the Seme to pound the Uke so hard till he starts bleeding But Nope nope nope NOT in fluffy Mangas!!! That is the reason why I love hardcore and mangas with fuked up caracters.
I think in this case, the person is asking more why so many people gloss over toxicity and problematic relationships in vast majority of yaoi stories. A conflict/climax is needed in almost every story to keep interest flowing and have readers want to find out more. But in many cases of yaoi stories, the toxicity in the relationship is actually not even used as a conflict at all, in fact it always gets swept over as nothing, or a slight little "misunderstanding" between the two characters, when in reality it's HUGE problems such as non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse. These types of situations aren't regarded as "conflicts" in these stories, they always get glossed over as "it was just a moment of jealousy", or "it's cause of his tragic past". It gives young readers this idea that if a man does or has any of these toxic characteristics, it's actually because he "loves you", and that right there, is a big problem in society because men or women won't leave their toxic partner since there's the thought that "he/she is only doing this cause they love me".
Things like these shouldn't be overlooked, but the reality is that they almost always are, and authors and also readers almost always refuse to acknowledge in fact just how toxic the relationship actually is, because, like most comments above said, most people are only reading for the sex.
The love-hate trope differs from toxic/abusive relationships. The person is questioning why people overlook yaoi stories where relationships involve things like non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse.
I love the hate-to-love trope, it's my personal favourite, but just because the two characters hate each other, doesn't excuse for non-consensual sex, or rape, there's absolutely no excuse that justifies any of those actions, but in vast majority of yaoi stories, that's exactly what happens, and the author and readers refuse to acknowledge how wrong those actions are, and it gets glossed over with a couple exhcnages of "I love yous".
Cause it’s yaoi. Lmfao. I
Lmfao, bleeding out on the sidewalk. So hot.
oof got me there my guy
I've said this before- it's a comic book, not a blueprint for real life. Characters/situations are overdramatised in an entertainment medium, so it's fine if readers cheer on the bad character of their choice. The Joker is cool, but a real life psychopath is not ok.
Yeah but the joker's character isn't painted to be this saint or portrayed as the correct form of morality, he's not a character that's glorifying psychopathy.
Toxicity or what you refer to as "entertainment" in yaoi is almost ALWAYS glorified or excused despite how wrong some of this stuff is.
I know rape is a fantasy many people have, especially women. Yaoi is able to give them that fantasy. I would argue that yaoi SHOULD not be read by young people. The ones that contain rape or abuse should be read by mature audiences.
In many cases, Joker is seen as a cool rebel hence why many want to be him (cosplay).
do you ever wish there was an option to block having to see a particular manga when you visit this site? Like god i remember that manga and hated it, let me just block it and never have to see it or its comments ever again.
Blood bank yes
not manga, some mangago users yes lol
The exposition in this plot is not consistent at all. Just before MC knew exactly who his uncle was from somehow absorbing memories of his host body as well as having the knowledge that his uncle was the source of his lack of monetary funds. Yet chapters before MC had no knowledge of why his host body had such little funds available to him as well as in this chapter MC assuming his who his uncle was only after being provided outside information. It’s not consistent at all.
I don’t even know why I’m being downvoted. I’m literally right. You can just read, it’s literally right there. Just yikes.