
So we are chapters in and we already have sexual assault twice. Great.
Blond assaulted black hair twice. Even if the MC performed oral he was black out drunk and could not consent he literally thought ML was someone else. That’s not say MC was in the right for making a sexual advance and play, ML was completely sober(had a single shot) and knew better than to let things transpire as they did. He was “curious” how far things would go and let things escalate purposefully and then has the audacity to blame the MC and then assault him in turn as compensation.ML IS NOT A CHILD. He’s a grown man with an active sex life and I’m sure he knows he could have never done this to a woman in either situation without it clearly being assault but because it’s between men excuses are being made. It’s gross. And it’s disgusts me how often this genre relies on drunkenness to perpetuate sexual crimes. It feeds rape culture and significantly muddies acceptable depictions of consenting sexual intimacy. That authors keep doing this and especially female authors in this medium of constantly romanticizing toxic and dangerous behavior and glamorizing as sexy, idealistic, and desirable is at this point disturbing. It’s bad enough many men take their sexual education from video pornography, a fictional depiction of sex, and it is acknowledge for its damage. Yet, we don’t do the same for other mediums of “fictional sex” that contribute to spreading misinformation and desensitizing its audience to altering depictions of idealized love and romance. Alcohol is number ONE used drug to initiate sexual violence please remember that.
What is it about abuse and toxic relationships that people find sexy to read and watch? Why is it the number one utilized trope in most genres across the board, that continues to gather audiences from all ages and backgrounds?
Because readers find conflicts intriguing. We like seeing characters being challenged to overcome a situation (which may or may not be resolved). Most fiction is based on some element of conflict, all of which span every genres of manga:
man vs. man
man vs. self
man vs. society
man vs. supernatural
man vs. tech/machinery
Honestly fluff is so boring. Like for 80 chapters all the uke and seme do is UWU each other, not even a fukin kiss. Blush here, Blush there…. UGHHHH So boring. I just want the Seme to pound the Uke so hard till he starts bleeding But Nope nope nope NOT in fluffy Mangas!!! That is the reason why I love hardcore and mangas with fuked up caracters.
I think in this case, the person is asking more why so many people gloss over toxicity and problematic relationships in vast majority of yaoi stories. A conflict/climax is needed in almost every story to keep interest flowing and have readers want to find out more. But in many cases of yaoi stories, the toxicity in the relationship is actually not even used as a conflict at all, in fact it always gets swept over as nothing, or a slight little "misunderstanding" between the two characters, when in reality it's HUGE problems such as non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse. These types of situations aren't regarded as "conflicts" in these stories, they always get glossed over as "it was just a moment of jealousy", or "it's cause of his tragic past". It gives young readers this idea that if a man does or has any of these toxic characteristics, it's actually because he "loves you", and that right there, is a big problem in society because men or women won't leave their toxic partner since there's the thought that "he/she is only doing this cause they love me".
Things like these shouldn't be overlooked, but the reality is that they almost always are, and authors and also readers almost always refuse to acknowledge in fact just how toxic the relationship actually is, because, like most comments above said, most people are only reading for the sex.
The love-hate trope differs from toxic/abusive relationships. The person is questioning why people overlook yaoi stories where relationships involve things like non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse.
I love the hate-to-love trope, it's my personal favourite, but just because the two characters hate each other, doesn't excuse for non-consensual sex, or rape, there's absolutely no excuse that justifies any of those actions, but in vast majority of yaoi stories, that's exactly what happens, and the author and readers refuse to acknowledge how wrong those actions are, and it gets glossed over with a couple exhcnages of "I love yous".
Don’t even know if I like this. It’s so cliched.