Seo An’s side-eye October 27, 2023 11:19 am

How are you pronouncing Hyo-un?

Hyo-uhn or….
Hyo-oon??

Romanizations get so confusing!

    HerNamesDexxie October 27, 2023 11:22 am

    I've been reading it as the first version but now I'm confused

    scared October 27, 2023 11:37 am

    idk how to either but i pronounce it as “hiyo-unh”

    偉大な王 October 27, 2023 11:59 am

    Hiyo-u-nh

    YourLocalYaoiQueen October 27, 2023 12:32 pm

    its Hyo-oon

    Qxeen_zxy October 27, 2023 12:38 pm

    Hyo is one syllable so it’s more likely to sound like “hiyo” if you slur the “iy” part of it. Un is also one syllable so it’s unh. You say it as you would un but push a little more air through when you say it. You wouldn’t split it up as slowly as you would in English when saying hyo-un and instead would say it as if it is 2 syllables of one word. This is how I learnt to say words in Korean but tbh if you want to learn properly, you need to learn the pronunciation of the Hangul letters because to tell the truth, all romanisations will be slightly off as they use different mouth positions than we do. L and r are separate in English and have different mouth and tongue positiosn whereas in Korean ㄹ has a mouth and tongue position halfway between l and r so romanisation could be either/or depending on what seems better and more easier to comprehend.

Seo An’s side-eye October 21, 2023 11:54 am

The illustrations in the newest chapter (33) are just stunning wowwww wow beautiful. I especially like the drawing with the slightly overhead view while they’re having beers at the outdoor restaurant.

Also I love Heesuh. He’s so funny. He’s that tsundere that you’ve gotta keep hugging, while they’re flailing and complaining, until they buy you a gazillion dollar watch and admit to liking you too.

Seo An’s side-eye October 18, 2023 2:46 pm

As an addendum to my earlier comment: I think people are forgetting that president mo started out cold and extremely difficult to work with. He didn’t really turn around and become a more likable person *until* secretary Xiao began to influence his behavior. He had to be taught to engage with his employees and show that he cares. Mo has flaws too! And that’s okay!

I’m really weirded out, though, that there’s so much hate for secretary Xiao because he’s an abuse survivor. It’s been very plain (obvious) in the story that that’s what he’s been going through. Mo is sad that they’re not official boyfriends but he doesn’t HATE secretary Xiao because of it. The plot is clearly headed towards a happy conclusion! It’s not dragging to me at all!! President Mo will get his happy ending! If everyone is so into Mo, the biggest part of his personality is that he loves xiao nuo! C’mon!!!!

    Vidabels October 19, 2023 2:15 pm

    It's kinda understandable in an office setting that people who are on the top of the food chain yk like presidents of the company can be viewed as "cold and difficult to work/communicate with" People like them do not nonchalantly interact with their subordinates as not everyone is comfortable with that (they can be intimidated or whatever) or some interactions may affect his standing in the company(misinterpretations, miscommunications etc). It's really Xiao Nuo's job as his secretary to get to know the people around the president so that it will help their boss know how to talk to them without them being suspisious or uncomfortable. Long story short it's part of his job really so you can only commend him for doing his job well. I think the hate for Xiao Nuo here is because President Mo has been clear about his intentions and feelings to him and Xiao has been playing on dear president's heart. And theyre not official because of that's what Xiao wanted and the president has been respecting all his decision and even not minding his disrespect to him at times. Yea, it is shown he has past trauma and whatever that backstory is, it is also not fair and not an excuse to drag another person just because you havent recovered with your past trauma. You cant hurt people just because you were hurt in the past and he is aware of what he is doing.

    I mean we all know that this will eventually be happy ever after for them but you cant deny the fact that Xiao has been a jerk all along.

    Seo An’s side-eye October 20, 2023 4:42 am

    I really don’t see xiao nuo as a jerk at all. president mo has autonomy and is able to make decisions on his own, as well. He’s very much capable of that. He was aware *all along* of what secretary Xiao could give and was willing, if not fully happy, to go along with the status of their relationship. I truly don’t understand why readers are so hateful towards xiao nuo when president mo himself, a grown adult making his own choices, still cares for this person and shows no resentment. He’s even besties with Xiao Nuo’s mom!

    Xiao nuo is allowed to have boundaries! He’s not intentionally hurting Mo. They’re in different places with their feelings. Secretary Xiao has no idea that President Mo has been pining for him for ages. Mo is the one who kept showing up to Xiao Nuo’s apartment day after day after day.

    Also “CEO types are always cold, etc” is not an excuse for the bad behavior of executive types. Mo is noted, in particular, as having a bad personality. Truly, I think readers favor Mo to an excessive extent because they see him as a wealthy authority figure who’s warmed up a little and become a “Prince Charming” sort of character in their eyes. Like damn what’s going on when readers have no empathy for secretary Xiao—the character who’s worked his ass off and is from a poorer background AND has suffered intensely?? It breaks my heart.

    Irene October 28, 2023 4:29 pm

    Past abuse is not an excuse to string along people in your current relationships though? While I understand Xiao has his own baggage to carry, that doesn't make his behavior towards Mo any better. Mo loves Xiao, that's why he is putting up with him essentially playing with his feelings.

    Seo An’s side-eye October 28, 2023 7:58 pm
    Past abuse is not an excuse to string along people in your current relationships though? While I understand Xiao has his own baggage to carry, that doesn't make his behavior towards Mo any better. Mo loves Xiao... Irene

    Dang so many people are crazy harsh on secretary xiao!! Yeah president mo might have deep and lingering feelings for him, but xiao nuo’s been honest about what he’s capable of giving. He hasn’t been leading anyone on! I hope everyone remembers that when pres mo wanted them to get serious and live together, he cut things off cuz that was more than he could handle.

Xiao nuo’s character should be allowed to have an arc and move at his own pace! He’s not going to magically get over horrific abuse just because someone wants to be his boyfriend!

    They’re not in an on-and-off relationship. The most they’ve done is hug since they ended their friends with benefits relationship. Anyone who’s an adult and capable of empathy would understand and respect another person’s boundaries in attempting a relationship. Mo is aware of what’s going on and doesn’t even resent Secretary Xiao for it! A lack of empathy on the part of readers does not mean Xiao Nuo is acting unreasonably. They both have lingering feelings for each other and are giving their relationship some distance while they sort things out. That’s a mature thing to do.

Also, they’re having conversations that are alluded to but not fully depicted in the comic, such as at Xiao Nuo’s sister’s apartment. Mo wasn’t surprised when Secretary Xiao resigned because they’ve been communicating with each other! There’s no reason to hate the characters or place any blame.

And Mo isn’t perfect either! He’s had to learn to be more kind and humane. They’re both having to learn to open up in different ways.

This is a great comic that has a lot of fluff and humor, yet deals with complex topics, too. I hope people can gain some empathy and learn to be more humane from reading it, as well.

Seo An’s side-eye October 18, 2023 9:55 am

My only comment is: these are the most 80s looking illustrations I’ve seen since reading actual printed comics from the 80s

Seo An’s side-eye October 18, 2023 6:52 am

Dang so many people are crazy harsh on secretary xiao!! Yeah president mo might have deep and lingering feelings for him, but I think xiao nuo’s been honest about what he’s capable of giving. He hasn’t been leading anyone on! I hope everyone remembers that when pres mo wanted them to get serious and live together, he cut things off cuz that was more than he could handle. We’ve not gotten the whole story so far, but the flashbacks are plenty to know he was in an abusive relationship before and getting beaten up.

Xiao nuo’s character should be allowed to have an arc and move at his own pace! He’s not going to magically get over horrific abuse just because someone wants to be his boyfriend!

And Mo isn’t perfect either! He’s had to learn to be more kind and humane. They’re both having to learn to open up in different ways.

Honestly, there’s no story if they just fall in love from day one.

This is a great comic that has a lot of fluff and humor, yet deals with complex topics, too. I hope people can gain some empathy and learn to be more humane from reading it, as well.

    Irene October 28, 2023 4:38 pm

    It's been 78 chapters, I think at this point in the story, people are justified in their frustration with the story. Xiao clearly has been stringing along Mo, he let's Mo go and then doesn't.

    Seo An’s side-eye October 28, 2023 7:49 pm
    It's been 78 chapters, I think at this point in the story, people are justified in their frustration with the story. Xiao clearly has been stringing along Mo, he let's Mo go and then doesn't. Irene

    I don’t agree in the slightest. They’re not in an on-and-off relationship. The most they’ve done is hug since they ended their friends with benefits relationship. Anyone who’s an adult and capable of empathy would understand and respect another person’s boundaries in attempting a relationship. Mo is aware of what’s going on and doesn’t even resent Secretary Xiao for it! A lack of empathy on the part of readers does not mean Xiao Nuo is acting unreasonably. They both have lingering feelings for each other and are giving their relationship some distance while they sort things out. That’s a mature thing to do.

    Also, they’re having conversations that are alluded to but not fully depicted in the comic, such as at Xiao Nuo’s sister’s apartment. Mo wasn’t surprised when Secretary Xiao resigned because they’ve been communicating with each other! Theres no reason to hate the characters or place any blame.

Seo An’s side-eye October 17, 2023 5:37 am

Are woo won’s mom and Seo An’s aunt girlfriends???

    adlrov October 17, 2023 4:12 pm

    i think they're friends (??)

Seo An’s side-eye October 16, 2023 11:05 pm

I love how Seo an thinks woo won is prissy for wanting to shower first but then he’s actually too prissy to have his ass eaten Seo an, woo won can teach you some things too I love them so much ughhhhhhh

Seo An’s side-eye October 14, 2023 5:59 pm

I think their behavior makes a little more sense if you consider who they are. Heesuh is a top tier chaebol who thinks a Mercedes is a shabby hooptie. Jinmoo is also from an extremely wealthy family but he’s not at that very top percentile so he’s perceived to be a “dog.” Heesuh was raised to believe that relationships and marriage are solely transactional, theyre for business/class advancement.

Reading this comic, I’ve never thought that Heesuh actually hates Jinmoo. He’s fighting against the fact that Jinmoo is this person who causes him to have all these FEELINGS. Feelings in his world are uncomfortable and annoying. If you have feelings you might have to learn to be true to yourself. If you have feelings you might have to deal with the fact that you’ve liked Jinmoo since high school—instead of being the perfect chaebol with a trophy wife. It’s a fight Heesuh is having with himself, not Jinmoo.

Because Jinmoo is a lot more perceptive, he understands why Heesuh is struggling so much. It’s kinda like “ahhhhhh you’re trying” when Heesuh gets all pouty and whiny. I get why Jinmoo finds it so cute and adorable!

    Night_owl October 21, 2023 7:51 am

    Someone finally explained ukes character beautifully, all the people who hates uke should read it to understand the uke better and stop hating him for his arrogance just think why he's like that.

    Seo An’s side-eye October 22, 2023 12:53 am

    Ahhh thank you!! Heesuh has just been in such deep denial! Like he literally made Jinmoo move to another country with him when they were younger and has never thought to ask why lollllllll

    They had an awful start that Heesuh still needs to atone for but I believe his feelings for Jinmoo are genuine. The most recent chapter was so sweet!!

    Night_owl October 22, 2023 7:04 am

    Yeah he's the kind that doesn't know what he's actually feeling or don't want to admit it cause of their pride, it's also because how he was raised... People just don't want to think much but quick to judge...

Seo An’s side-eye October 14, 2023 6:39 am

At least I’m not alone in feeling like this series has gone haywire since they started having sex. Before the boss really was doting and would do all these little things to show his love. Now it’s like… “who else is gonna cook for me” and forced sex. Wtf happened I hate this!!! The mc would be so much better off alone ☹ It feels like he’s in a loop of shitty relationships because he’s afraid of being outed. Looking back there’s something really ominous about the boss saying “now you’re not alone” or whatever after they first have sex. It comes off more as “now you’re trapped with me.”

Seo An’s side-eye October 13, 2023 1:34 pm

I hope his magic dragon powers kick in!!!! Biting my nails!!!

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