wontaek June 17, 2024 10:57 am

This is definitely one of those Mantua where the r@pe has no business being there and is completely unnecessary. I just don't get it, you can write him as a psychopath and have a terrible personality. But any cute or wholesome things that happen later, just dissipate when you think about how the story started. This is a story, this is BL, this is nowhere near realistic but some things are just too unrealistic to get past sometimes.
I just don't understand this author's thought process whatsoever, I've seen this happen so many times. The r@pe doesn't even make any sense from a writing standpoint. It's like these authors just put it in for the hell of it or we're going to do something completely different but now it's too late. Like thanks for ruining something that could have been not s***.

    catbutler June 17, 2024 12:04 pm

    I agree with you. this is the reason why I don't give any thought about what happens in the beginning of the most BLs. I see them as 'paying motivators'. most authors put hardcore sex in the early chapters so that readers would buy other chapters for their curiosity. these scenes doesn't add the story anything because they are drawn to be meaningless. then they move on to the 'real plot'.

    sanyong June 27, 2024 6:42 pm

    that’s an opinion a lot of people disagree with

wontaek June 17, 2024 10:52 am

I kinda wanna give this a chance because ppl in comments seem to like but the r@pe so early was shit. The author didn't try to make it sexy, didn't even really show it and made it feel like how r@pe u know actually is horrible. If the author wanted us to hate or dislike the seme from beginning, their are other ways to do so. Or if the author wanted the uke to hate the seme they wouldn't have to do much as he was already a cop. Why am i 10 chapters in and the uke is already Lowkey chummy with seme.
I get that seme has gone through a lot, has been alone for a while and would unknowingly get used to another person's warmth. But as a reader it just feels really uncomfortable, r@pe is not anything new in BL but I really don't like it when we play it for laughs. Unless the seme later on in the story is on his knees begging for forgiveness and crying, I don't understand why anyone else should like him. And you know what you're allowed to like psycho crazy guys girlies, if that's the book boy you want to smash go ahead.
I'm also just not having a good time because two chapters in uke r@pe seme and after that all we get is BS investigative dialogue that I don't care about from the r@pist seme. And of course in between that little tidbits of the seme finding himself going back to the flower shop cuz he is already down bad. I don't know I just feel so bad for the uke.

    sanyong June 27, 2024 6:43 pm

    why tf would the author try to make rape sexy

    wontaek June 29, 2024 10:28 am
    why tf would the author try to make rape sexy sanyong

    Authors do this to make the assault not like it is a horrible thing. What I am saying is this author knows it's a horrible thing because of how they presented the action. However, our big boobie boy doesn't care/forgives him just cuz the top is a bit nice and this has happened before/bottom just thinks of it the same as punching etc. I just find it strange that the author knows it is bad, illustrates said crime but for the characters it just gets put to the side as if he kicked him of something. Especially, when their are plenty of other ways to get bottom to hate top that could be reified later.
    EX. Puts a very kind gang member behind bars for a long time and he has a fam or something. This could be rectified by the very smart top speaking with judge or prosecutor about gang member.

    sanyong June 29, 2024 10:51 am
    Authors do this to make the assault not like it is a horrible thing. What I am saying is this author knows it's a horrible thing because of how they presented the action. However, our big boobie boy doesn't car... wontaek

    where exactly did he forgive him

    wontaek June 29, 2024 10:56 am
    where exactly did he forgive him sanyong

    That's what I'm saying, as soon as they start to get a little chummy and even after he does it again. As the top said as long as he is a little nice to him the bottom wouldn't even care if he stabbed him. Similar to how instead of facing the possibility of his ex gang boss possibly stabbing him, he just opens up a flower shop.

    sanyong June 29, 2024 11:01 am
    That's what I'm saying, as soon as they start to get a little chummy and even after he does it again. As the top said as long as he is a little nice to him the bottom wouldn't even care if he stabbed him. Simil... wontaek

    when did he say he forgave him lmao

    wontaek June 29, 2024 11:08 am
    when did he say he forgave him lmao sanyong

    NVM bro idk if u just refusing to see it or honestly don't know, i literally just told u too.

    sanyong June 29, 2024 11:16 am
    NVM bro idk if u just refusing to see it or honestly don't know, i literally just told u too. wontaek

    no you literally didn’t. not once did he say he forgave him for what he did. he’s clearly just being potrayed as tolerant of the ml and it’s most likely because he knows ml isn’t going to leave him alone and it’s not like he can physically harm ml so he’ll leave him alone

wontaek June 16, 2024 10:18 am

Nah man I already wrote a whole essay about this and let me tell you. The journey may have been rough but God damn it, it's worth it.

wontaek June 16, 2024 10:16 am

You know what people the beginning of this is ass, but sometimes we have to let the author cook. I don't know if this is their first work but the beginning of this is very rough. I would even say horseshit, however, this ends up being really funny and when I tell you the top is so down bad. Not obsessed because there is a difference, but this man is so down bad it should be a crime.
I would say this really starts to get good around 20 chapters but it stops being horseshit at like chapter 15 maybe. What was really annoying in those first few chapters is the fact that. The top was trying to get revenge because bottom pushed him slightly so that he could shut his house door. Mind you the top was being rude for no reason and hella judgmental. Also and this does change a bit later the art isn't bad but it isn't that great at conveying emotions. In the beginning you can guess what they're feeling but I shouldn't have to guess.
Also bottom seems like your typical stupid innocent type and he is but later it is like the best thing. When I tell you this man, we'll sleep with somebody and give zero f****. It's great, peak comedy, never been done before lol. Also this is just something I find Lowkey great, the top would sell his soul to give the bottom head. When I tell you I've never seen a top want to suck a bottoms dick before, as much as this guy, it's ludicrous but also perfection.

    kmochi June 17, 2024 3:56 am

    the top being so hungry for the bottom's dick, hell yes we support a service top in this household

    zero June 20, 2024 10:26 am

    In a long running story like this it doesn't make sense to judge something like that based on the first few chapters anyway. It would be like judging a 500 page book on the first 3 pages. Obviously there will be development. If the seme stayed that way with no development that would be different but it wasn't the case. Clearly it was an intentional writing decision to make him unpleasant and then have a gradual character developent. A character having a nasty personality is not the same as bad writing or bad story.

    wontaek June 21, 2024 5:08 am
    In a long running story like this it doesn't make sense to judge something like that based on the first few chapters anyway. It would be like judging a 500 page book on the first 3 pages. Obviously there will b... zero

    Clearly, u didn't understand what I said and that's fine I was ranting. Obviously, any s***** top in the beginning is typically going to go through character development. And I've also noticed that plenty of authors do this thing where they make you really hate the character in the beginning but for some reason you end up loving them later, because emotions be funny like that. However, that wasn't what I had such an issue with in the beginning. What I had an issue with was the writing and visuals. In those first 10 chapters, the art does not really convey or tell the audience what the characters are feeling all that good. You can be a jerk / psychopath but there's typically obvious reason or explanation for it.

    As the character stayed in the beginning he doesn't typically like to do the bets anyways. However, despite the fact that he was rude first and bottom was only nudging him out of his house. He came to the conclusion that the best way to get back it said person was to make them fall for him or sleep with him or whatever and then ghost him. That's hella Overkill, now maybe for some reason he just found him especially aggravating hate/love. However I wouldn't know that because the art in the beginning is not poorly drawn but emotions are poorly conveyed.

    This isn't played for comedic value, he's not a psychopathic type of character, he's not even that big of a jerk. The reasoning just feels very lazy, silly, and doesn't make any sense. I also only kept reading this because I looked at the comments. It's one thing to give up because a person finds a story boring and in those situations yet you should give it time in the story will probably be less boring to the person. However, I didn't find the story boring, I found the art not conveying the characters emotions. And I found very lazy reasons for why characters were doing things. I also didn't like why the friend was trying so hard to get bottom to sleep with the top that he did not want to sleep with at all.
    If there are already so many issues when I start reading something, it's very off-putting and doesn't exactly want to make me continue reading. That first chapter is not going to be perfect but it still sets the tone for what's to come towards believed to come.
    Sorry for the essay lol

    zero June 24, 2024 6:53 pm
    Clearly, u didn't understand what I said and that's fine I was ranting. Obviously, any s***** top in the beginning is typically going to go through character development. And I've also noticed that plenty of au... wontaek

    ahhhh yeah I do get what you're saying and now that you pointed it out there definitely are a few things which weren't properly explained and seems like it was thrown in just as a plot device but then caused characters to lack depth because of it

    wontaek June 29, 2024 10:38 am
    ahhhh yeah I do get what you're saying and now that you pointed it out there definitely are a few things which weren't properly explained and seems like it was thrown in just as a plot device but then caused ch... zero

    Girl as I was riding my little essay, I realize I didn't really explain it thoroughly enough. And clearly I need to go back to writing class. Cuz idk how you summed up almost everything I thought in that few sentences.

wontaek June 11, 2024 5:52 am

Top is unintentionally a manipulative prick. If this were real Life the tops actions would be on purpose to try in guilt the bottom into making the him feel guilty about the tops actions. Honestly, without all the manipulative writing of characters and SA that really didn't need to be there I would really like this. Solid six chapter manga but I guess the author wanted there to be spicy in every chapter. And they chose the laziest way to do so.

wontaek June 11, 2024 12:41 am

Ppl wild for justifying the crazy, not that crazy top is anything new but this situation little different. I don't know why but I also noticed how crazy these mc/bottoms be. A mother f***** just stabbed you and bottom be like "no oooo he had a troubled childhood and I broke up with him, he has no idea how to take no for an answer it's not his fault". If I was his friend, I'll be looking at this b**** like he was crazy. I wouldn't even care what happened to him at that point, I would just stop being his friend.

I will give props to the author though because the transition from somewhat crazy to complete psychopath was done very well. From the get-go we're curious as to how we get from point a to what we see in the prologue. I don't think the author is bad at writing, I just think nobody would would be friends with these people.

wontaek June 11, 2024 12:08 am

This shit is mad wacky, author is wild... Art good tho

wontaek June 10, 2024 11:19 pm

Honestly, didn't think we were going to go with the kidnapping route because it seems lazy. Even for a one shot, I think they could have just gone with something else. I personally thought it was going to be that he was only sleeping with the other guy because he had something on him or he had this big plan. And that either boss had already liked said person but got turned extra horny from the other dude. Honestly, this could have been like a solid 30 chapter smut bl, Little disappointed. I don't know it just feels weird that we would have all of this backstory and drama for the first chapter. Just for it to be a three chapter kidnapping and not even a good kidnapping trope.

wontaek June 10, 2024 10:59 pm

When I say I want to read a smut story this is what I mean. Not some half baked creepy crazy cringy story with the author trying to justify the stupid stuff that happens. A story that is just meant for the smut.

wontaek June 5, 2024 11:23 am

So I read this back when it first came out and after rereading it up to like chapter 13. I have realized this is really bad... Like after rereading it the teacher feels super creepy, I think it's partially how the author did his dialogue. Because I know the teacher isn't actually a bad dude and this is a b******* BL world rules. Like if we go back into the earlier chapters where they first do the deed. The way that he asks the uke and his face scream creep. How did he come to the conclusion that his student was going to sexually assault him. Why did he then jerk off his student? Why did he do any of the things that he did? It almost feels like a bad creepy gay stereotype.
Even if the uke is 18, just a lot of the seme's dialogue and actions are wild. Like an earlier chapters he says this one line " I can't help but thinking rebellious kids are cute", which would be a totally normal line to say. If he wasn't f****** a said rebellious student, and makes it sound like he's done this before. Obviously, he hasn't but God does it sound like he has.
I'd also like to point out that there are plenty of BL that wait until the student has graduated or even like gone to college or something. I also read this when I was like 17 and when ur 17 you don't notice certain creepy shit.

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