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Then he has a way better view on making BL bc there was no justifying a rapist seme in this, or incest, or just loads of sick shit that most female authors put in their stories

I never said which one is good and which one is bad
I just said it's different
Sure, some people regardless of their gender truly have some strange tastes and I'm all against justifying rape as I should be

I was simply pointing out that the type of interaction that majority of men have, is very different from our interactions
It's way more simpler
And we don't usually see that in yaoi because it's written from a woman's perspective
Also if you look at the art style you see that it's exactly drawn to visually satisfy a man

Again, I'm not saying it's good or bad

Even if it is meant to satisfy a man I’m gobbling it up like it’s my favorite food (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Yeah it's really not bad
Not exactly my favourite, but not bad at all
Also it's quite funny

while that is very true in real life, this doesn’t seem to be a case that applies to this story. If it was about health then it would make sense to STOP having anal sex after 10 years not suddenly start it now when the uke is older and takes a greater toll on his body.
From this story it seems like they never even considered the idea of anal sex until now which is just mostly unbelievable. I’m only surprised at how it never appeared to be a thought. Certainly anal is not for everyone including gay couples but not to never even try or consider it? For 10 years? Yet now you do? Just seems wild.

Yeah I'm with you on that

Some people in the comments were like "ain't no way you can go for 10 years without penetration" and stuff like that, so I was trying to make a point about that

About this specific couple tho, yes it's a bit odd
And I guess we'll get an explanation later on

But I think it's still understandable
I mean they had good sex without penetration for so long but it's only natural for one or both of them to want something more at some point
People can change
Straight folks do it all the time
They get a bit older and it gets a bit cold and boring so they go for some new things

my thoughts exactly...Kang's personality is such a tough nut to crack but hopefully we can see them make up soon

Yup he's tough and harsh but not toxic
He's one of my favourite semes, very sexy as well as intelligent

I love the fact that he says he's immoral and gets his hands dirty, but in fact he's the one with the most strict moral boundaries

He definitely IS toxic, just not in an irredeemable way. He does what he does because it's hard for him to trust anyone. He's afraid of appearing vulnerable and he feels quite insecure due the intense feelings that mc is forcing out of the walls he has built. But yeah, while i enjoy how flawed he is (since it'll feel more rewarding once mc wins him over) I wouldn't blame mc if he no longer wanted to put up with his calousness.

I mean, I get what you're saying
I agree that he's flawed and insecure
But I don't consider that toxic, he's not forcing himself on anyone, yunshin is putting up with his behaviour consensually

And also I'd be angry too if I was insecure about being used and I've caught my partner lurking around in my personal space right before he confesses his feelings for me literally sobbing in the middle of the street. And as if that's not enough reason for suspicions, I find out that he has a serious matter that only I can solve and he kept it from me

I'll admit, he should've talked about it with Yunshin instead of throwing a tantrum
But let's be realistic, he's human and he's hurt. It's called defense mechanism. But it's not like he was being violent or abusive or anything

Sorry for the long ass reply lol
So what I'm saying is I agree and disagree with you at the same time, if that makes any sense

Being toxic is being human a lot of times. It's not only when someone forces themselves on you that it's considered toxicity. Just because Yunshin putting up with him doesn't change anything.A lot of people put up with bad behavior, this doesn't mean though that the behavior of the other person isn't bad. And I'm not speaking about this specific instance where his feelings got 'hurt', there are plenty of scenes where he was a complete asshole. Let me add to that, that someone can be toxic to another human being without necessarily having a relationship with them. Being traumatized explains the behavior, it doesn't automatically make it 'healthy' (not toxic). I can mention various instances when he was very toxic in the story. Is it because of his trust issues stemming from trauma and his overwhelming feelings? Yes.
Does this make his behavior not toxic? No.
Just because i feel irritable for example and i have certain views about people with a personality like you due to my trauma, it doesn't excuse me treating you badly. Yeah, i may be pitiful, but my bad mental state doesn't give me the right to be bad to you, even if you've unknowingly hurt me with your existence. Hope this makes sense.

You can understand and like a character without justifying his behavior by calling it healthy. It's not, by any means. I like him as well, because he's a well written character but I'm not overlooking the fact that he is toxic, I'm just looking at him as a flawed human being, which is what he is.

Yes I understand, thank you for explaining
Although I have a different opinion, I completely understand and respect what you're saying

I didn't exactly mean that he's "healthy"
He's obviously not
It's just that I think "toxic" is a bit extreme for this character as a whole
I mean we all know people with a couple of bad habits, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are "bad" as a whole
Same goes for Mr. Kang, he has a couple of mini toxic habits but he's not a toxic person in my opinion
He is flawed and he's made a ton of mistakes and he has to make up for them tho

Oh, but i never said that someone toxic is bad as a whole. People are not just black or white, we all have aspects that are good or bad. Someone can be toxic and still have good aspects which will eventually lead to even healthier behavior. Toxic is a word to describe someone behaving in a unhealthy way towards others, it's not a term that describes someone's whole personality nor is it necessary something permanent. Almost all people have the potential to heal and become a better version of themselves, even if they've been toxic in the past. Humans after all, are complex creatures.

Hope that makes sense. Toxic is nothing more than a term, it's not an "extreme" way to describe someone's bad aspects. It's a spectrum, you could say. Some people are more toxic than others for example. Someone's actions may not be as bad as another's extremely hurtful actions, but their still toxic nevertheless. What I'm trying to say, is that this term is not used in just extremely bad cases, but in general to describe hurtful behavior towards someone undeserving (and yes, mc was undeserving of ml's hurtful behavior in a lot of cases. Without saying of course that mc is always without fault. He's a flawed character as well)

Oof, you were saying you're the one who writes a lot, but look at the huge paragraphs i created XD

Yes now that you've put it like that I totally agree

Lol ikrrr, I always start with the intention of writing one sentence, and end up sending a thick ass love letter =)))))

This was a nice conversation, thank you for the effort

I suspected we had a misunderstanding over the use of the term because we were technically coming to the same conclusion lol

It's okay, it's hard to explain things in a way that can be understood by other people without writing a whole paragraph so i get it XD

Thank you for the effort as well! It's indeed a fascinating subject.

Wait why is Kang feeling betrayed

Because he found out about the problem that Yunshins sister is going through and he thought Yunshin confession was all a lie to get him involved in the case

Oh whew I have t read this so I thought MC cheated or some misunderstanding with a love rival

Thiss, but I won’t drop it yet, they owe us a spicy scene after these past depressing chapters

I understand, but for me personally, I think seeing that would make me even more disgusted

there's only one more chapter.. and yah the "spicey scene" made me wanna bleach my eyes

Wtf really?
So the main part of the manhwa was about him being a dick with no character development?

I love how you've read 53 chapters bc you were too lazy to unsuscribe

Gurl, I stayed heartbroken over one person for six years just because it was bothersome to be depressed over something else ╥﹏╥
I just don't like change
I can't adapt

Damn ._. Such is life I guess

Damn Bro that must hurt, I hope you're feeling better but reading over 50+ chapters because you can't adapt shows that you're at least consistent... (well consistently sad but still consistent...)

i meant to leave a like but my freking big ass thumb clicked the dislike