why do the characters' colour scheme look like they were chosen by a random colour picker?
ok I know you guys don't like the gas mask, but ngl I actually really like it. idk cause he's younger than hunter Cha right? it really does feel like he's younger and a little bit silly.
idk I really like his gas mask... less big scary S-ranker that wants to do creepy stuff and more like a cute kouhai that's like senpai please notice me
like idk Clear from DMMD
(づ￣ ³￣)づ
I agree
author I have a basement if you have the guts to do this to us (⌒▽⌒) please do not do this to us
tldr: If you are confused, it is not your fault. BSD's recent Dostoevsky arc is complete bullshit where the author just pulled random shit out of his ass and decided it was fucking acceptable for shock value in the mystery way. 90% of it is useless gimmicks that I could replace with guns and knives and anyone who says elsewise is either a 13 year old with a nsfw gojo body pillow or just straight up an idiot who can't read and only reads to worship Dostoevsky's feet (which I ngl approve of).
we are literally combining abilities now like tetris blocks... it's funny not serious, I don't feel at all surprised Fukuzawa is dead, and you shouldn't either since we all know in another 5 minutes, everyone is going to be revived because Asagiri doesn't kill characters (which should be a really big warning sign in of itself).
Early when the Cannibalism arc came out, and we were officially really truly introduced to the best anime character in the entire world, Fyodor Dostoevsky, I told my friend that when he and Dazai do a showdown (when, not even if that is how predictable THAT was), ONE of them HAS to die in that showdown, or else this manga will go to shit.
This manga has already gone to shit and will continue to go to shit for two main reasons: 1) Asagiri is dragging this out too long 2) Asagiri doesn't know what balance is.
I cannot begin to explain how stupidly overpowered Dostovesky's ability is, and I cannot begin to explain why the implications of his ability on LITERALLY EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE and every instance where his ability almost directly goes against what was explicitly shown in the series. I don't know what fantastical ability Asagiri has to make up to make up for those incidents (read: Karma and that one guard) but it will be ridiculous.
However, what I am actually truly disappointed in is that this is seinen. It's a mystery, psychological seinen that has heavy topics that range from someone who idealizes suicide to people who functionally have the claw their way out of hell to make a living. Does this series give two shits about that? No. Is there honest to god any focus on it? No. This series is functionally a shounen, it's not a seinen, it was never made for an older audience or an audience that wants to use half of their brain cells.
To prove this, let's go back all the way to the Guild arc. What happened at the end? Atsushi and Akutagawa beat up Fitzgerald. Then let's go to Cannibalism. What happened at the end? Atsushi and Akutagawa beat up Goncharov. What are we doing now? Atsushi is planning on beating up whatshisface and Dostoevsky. Of course, there are caveats, but these chokehold moments that determine this goddamn series are always determined by who? Atsushi and Akutagawa beating shit up.
Do you know where you find this pattern? In young age shounen. Do you know why? Because it appeals to kids. Atsushi and Akutagawa are not characters designed for an older audience, they aren't even all that complicated - we could guess what happened to Akutagawa a good few chapters into BSD. Now just to make sure, because I know how braindead BSD fans are, they aren't "bad" characters, they are good characters, they're just functionally very simply designed characters, with stories that don't have an extrema of depth. Of course, people will fight me on that, but they are not difficult characters to understand. They don't make you think and are fairly straight forward in that sense. Do you really need to wonder about human relationships through Atsushi and Akutagawa? God no, it's fed to you, you need to be like 14 to be wondering about that whilst reading this.
I have heard the, OMG BSD is such a SERIOUS series and it's SOOOO mature. It isn't? I've been reading it since I was twelve and I never once thought this series is all that mature. Just because your main character idealizes suicide doesn't make it mature, that just makes it edgy. And BSD isn't edgy, it's just ALMOST edgy. There is nothing "deep" about this story, if you think Dazai being affected by Oda is such a deep character trait you really need to read more lol. That's not depth, that's called cause and effect. But the thing is... it is also A deep story. It's not NOT deep, it's just hen you read it, there is no depth to it, you have to think about it... And yeah, people who don't serially read manga will fight me on this, but BSD reads like a shounen action with some cool gimmicks and once in a blue moon shocks everyone with how depressing it. it's not that it lacks depth and this is why it's *nearly* edgy, it's that it's presented in a way that it seems like it lacks depth especially with the recent arcs.
Just because you make the mood feel older doesn't mean your content it lmao. it's not hard to make a mature mood, it's harder to have mature subjects and adding in stuff like mafiosos and killing people and family member death ooh chuya doesn't feel like he belongs in this world because he's basically a robot isn't... all insightful...? idk why some people feel like it is, it really isn't... if you guys ever bother to think about what even is going on in your life, it really isn't all that special in anything it does, mostly because the author refuses to do anything with it. Like he can crank Dazai's story to meteoric levels of insane character development, but he doesn't. He can make Mori into this godly character that people don't just simp for because they are degenerates. But... he doesn't. Instead, we're stuck with a kind of mid character... whose development is spearheaded by a community of people who probably haven't read anything once in their lives and the idea of someone changing is groundbreaking to them - COME ON Shakespeare's been doing that and he's literally known for being a shitty plot writer lmao.
However, I'm not saying Dazai isn't a complicated character, I'm saying he's not written as one. He is and functionally just by his base lore of being a ex-pm executive is probably one of the more complicated characters. It's just... this series doesn't really do anything with it. Wow his past got revealed... did we get any character introspection? No. Do you know the purpose of his past? yes, it was one of those shounen this is the past behind this character with a dark past. It doesn't really do anything with it at all. Dazai should have some of the most introspective plot dynamics in this series because he functionally changed his entire personality and values - DOES THIS HAPPEN? NO.
... yeah, author really fucked up on that point. if you think that teensy tiny little bit on Dazai's past serves as anything valuable - his past arc is something you find in a shounen series because you don't need this level of depth in a character a 13 year old is going to watch. If me at 12 could understand what was going on perfectly fine and basically grasp why he did so and so, then there is something fundamentally wrong. And I used to read a lot of psychological, so when 12 year old me stumbled on Death Note, no i did not understand it that well. The that even when I look retrospectively I find that my younger self's understanding of this character is fairly consistent just shows this series is NOT written well.
and the most common argument against bad character writing is: "you should just analyze his character" fuck you that's not how this shit works. if you are going to make ME analyze his character first give me enough material to do that, or base the entire story around it like how Houseki no Kuni did it so that since the entire plot is based on that you HAVE to. Don't give me this bullshit where I have to baby like an entire cast of 70~ characters and analyze all of them because the author doesn't know how to keep track of his goddamn characters as well.
you don't do introspective character plot circulation using a cast of 70~ MAJOR characters.
The reason why this fandom is so saturated with Dostoevsky's rat babies (I actually did meet one who called themselves this lol) is because it's not deep and it's not deep because it doesn't write itself as being deep. If someone was truly deep you aren't going to get these kinds of fans. Because the emotional crisis the series would and honestly SHOULD get will scare away all of them rat babies like rat poison. This isn't slow damage where you have layer upon layer of parts to a character being peeled back, it's a straight forward linear relationship that is stupidly contrived to seem complicated but in reality is fucking stupidly simple because author refuses to give any nuance to it.
When the author introduced Dostoevsky I was actually really hyped. Because Dostoevsky is the perfect character to force readers to reconsider Dazai since they are functionally 'mirrors' of each other. Did that happen...?
...
Some people saying that their conversation is super deep - it's only message was that Dostoevsky doesn't believe in the power of friendship - WHICH WOW, IT'S NOT LIKE I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING SINCE HE IDK CLEARLY USED EVERYONE AROUND HIM LIKE THEY WERE PROPS??? When Dazai said that I laughed... I l a u g h e d.
Now, I actually do think that the Friendship is Magic concept isn't inherently cheap or boring by itself, it's just, almost anyone with half a brain could figure that one out the second Dostoevsky showed up with that obnoxiously cute smirk of his and decided to punpunpun into my heart. It's not that difficult to even just assume he's a paranoid cute shitface. It's like his entire character archetype, now they just have to copy paste some sad background - wow that's so... creative. I'm sorry, but if this is the best character you can come up with combat Dazai you really don't understand your own characters...
And the entire Oda's death affected Dazai is also ngl complete bullshit in of itself. That's not how people work, and the only reason why I accepted it at the time was because Dazai is smart enough to make that change. Actually there is a good Shakespeare play that does this (hopefully you BSD fans aren't too braindead for this) but in Kind Lear, Edmund, functionally does the same thing. When everything he has done is laid before him and every crime he has committed becomes apparent to him explicitly, he changes almost in like two lines.
And some people say that's sudden, no that man was a manipulative genius who got almost his entire family dead purely through his own machinations he has the intelligence to afford that kind of moral regeneration.
Dazai does too, so I accepted it. But the way how BSD writes it... it makes it feel as though it is entirely on Oda who changes him, when it really isn't and shouldn't be like that. And I've seen people argue this and every time I just want to cry that's not how people work no matter WHAT they say to you.
Everyone in the Port Mafia is a shitty person (do NOT try to argue with me on that lol, you are insane if you think otherwise, the only person who can even slightly be afforded an argument elsewise is Akutagawa lolol). Someone like Dazai can immediately drag out every evidence of that and immediately understand the implications of what he is doing. He knows everything he just functionally doesn't really care about it and now that Oda forces him to care, he can immediately calculate what he is becoming and that is what should make him leave the Port Mafia.
it's not that Oda does anything, Oda just convinces him to think about what he is becoming.
Everything else is stuck in Dazai's own experiences. Everything else should be due to what Dazai experienced and what he rationalizes, not some offhand comment by someone who is dying.
And if you write him in any other way forcing Oda to take on more responsibility... well you can, but 1) that's kind of lame since you already have the set up anyway 2) you are wasting an entire arc you just made why...
Also you would need WAY more information on Oda to do that kind of trick. That honestly the audience doesn't want all that much. Because all of you guys are brainless BSD fans like me.
Do we see ANY of this? No. We really do NOT. I've seen enough people say it's to fulfil Oda's dying wish. That is a really... superficial reason that's usually used as a surface cover to hide a deeper more insightful reason. and I've seen people have cool theories about it.
Let me say that again: Cool. Theories.
This series is over 100 chapters, GODDAMN TELL US ABOUT THE MAIN CHARACTER ALREADY.
And this, my fellow rat friends, is ONE character.
Atsushi and Akutagawa are actually not that hard... since they are so young lol, but the littlest amount of anything has been sprinkled on them. I think people complaining about Atsushi development don't seem to understand - he has had development, his development is huge, it's just this series is so bad at character writing unless you literally give up being a PM executive it doesn't feel like they grew.
And i cannot stress how rare it is for a series to screw up this badly. Usually this slow progression is a good thing (like Tsunayoshi and Reborn's relationship in KHR you can't explain it, but you just KNOW their relationship is better). It's a good thing because it gives a sense of time. Atsushi undergoes this as well, he went from someone pretty pathetic in all honesty to someone who is slightly more trickier whilst also become more firm in what he wants and where "he" as a person wants to go which is massive considering all he wanted was to eat before.
But you don't feel this because BSD shitty writing doesn't show this kind of thing, they just use the same character quirks over and over again without bothering to show anything for it. You don't get internal dialogue, just the classic I need to be stronger or something, and so when asked about character development it's hard to say anything.
That coupled with the sheer NUMBER of characters that could have been the mc... and you have where we're at right now, where everything feels disconnected and everyone has their own show.
BSD is written with way too many complicated characters and that sounds kind of weird to say since you would argue that it's a good thing, but the issue is that they aren't complicated in a good way, but in a complicated way with varying relationships between each other that makes it really difficult to do anything about it. And makes the story complicated and hard to follow (big brain moment, yes I am too stupid for this stupid plot device)
Like, let's just talk for a moment about Ranpo, Yosano, Fukuzawa, and Mori who are in this deadass SQUARE of a relationship with each other. It's 'complicated' is an understatement we get like a few chapters worth of it when it really honestly should be way longer. THESE PEOPLE COULD HAVE AN ENTIRE SERIES WRITTEN ABOUT THEM AND IT WOULD BE TOP TIER.
Seriously... the entire concept that Mori is an army doctor that forced Yosano to use her abilities in ummm interesting ways and the entire idea of being undying due to someone else is really cool but it doesn't last as long as it should and Asagiri has this issue and I ngl think it's because he doesn't know how to end the matter in a good way so he shoved them all into one thing instead of actually bothering to expand it.
But the thing is... thing kind of writing of massive amounts of main characters HAS been done before... Baccano has done it before. So why does BSD suck compared to Baccano (and this is objective btw, Baccano is hands down BETTER than BSD at how they handle characters)? Well, Baccano basically did what BSD is doing right now... but it doesn't use... gimmicks. Everything ties into each other, everyONE ties into each other because let's be honest, BSD as an office would be a physical pain. Opposites attract is a lie and the entire concept that Kunikida and Dazai working together is a good thing does NOT make sense at all.
You can be opposites, but you need to make up for each other. Dazai does not make up for Kunikida, his laziness drags Kunikida down. Kunikida does not make up for Dazai, he's not goddamn smart enough to keep up. If anything, Dostoevsky is a better pair but those two would just make the series straight up boring. Chuya and Dazai are shitty people to work together you guys are INSANE if you seriously think your ship is going to be canon (there are some people like that...)
Which is why we introduce the second group: Atsushi and Akutagawa. They are... actually functional lmao. Actually, if this series focused entirely on Atsushi and Akutagawa it would probably run like a Baccano, but Dazai keeps on butting in and shoving in his entire vomit-inducing past into our faces, dragging our attention away to all of his dysfunctional relationships - this is the other problem with characters in BSD.
Now that asagiri has fully expounded useless cheap (above) data on Dazai that... fails to what it should have been doing, we are left with tidbits of everyone else.
Yeah. BSD character background pacing sucks.
A lot of things that are really interesting in BSD should honestly get their own series or their own really long side note, but they really don't. Actually the Guild is a really good example where Asagiri made good side characters. They are somewhat complex and have varying motives, but they aren't overbearingly complex that require too much brainpower that I am diverting from Dostoevsky's smile (he's so cute I-). The Guild is arguably the only arc in the entire series so far that is good because it is early so all of Asagiri's creative juices are actually speaking to each other and communicating on pacing and spacing. The only thing I have against Guild is honestly that the entire was too shounen-esque and a pretty meh ending.
As much as indepth characters are good, if your main characters are hanging off a thread you are... really just overcomplicating things. And with how the author seemingly just decided to decrease siscon brocon siblings Tanizaki and Naomi instead of going borderline twitter cancellable and exploring that relationship just shows how much guts this author has... Ranpo has been reduced to unwillful negligence which sucks because he would have been way more interesting if it was willful, and
On a side note, we have like 2 or 3 light novels about Chuya. Now yes, I hate that man lmao, but I swear I am being completely objective when I say this, but Chuya's arc is the most fucking boring arc in the entire series because Chuya is as Dazai hates him for, basically really annoying, simple, and arrogant.
I don't really want to go full on trashing on why having that much stuff on Chuya is straight up overkill because I know Chuya fans are like a nuclear bomb waiting to be thrown at me, but basically, he's simple. He's basic. He's arrogant. His entire plot gimmick is just he's a couple of codes (explains why he's so simple and stupid ngl). Yeah wowww he's not understood by anyone... sadly he's too GODDAMN STUPID TO CARE ABOUT IT.
yeah ok, that's why we don't need to waste time on Chuya as a character (I do hate him with all of my nonexistent heart for him, so I honestly never really bothered to think that hard on him because lolol I HATE HIM, so there probably is something more to him, I just never thought it to be useful enough to waste that much time on... sorry your husbando is so annoying...)
And this is functionally the issue with BSD. You don't see people praising its character dynamics of which it hinges on A LOT. You see people praising its plot mechanics and I will say this right now: its plot mechanics suck (below). The characters are complicated... not by the merit of the writing but by everyone's headcanons... When we say, everyone has their own interpretation of the character... sure but when 90% of a character's intention is STILL not shown after 100 chapters, there is an issue.
There is another issue. Gimmicks.
BSD is functionally a gimmick story. It uses cheap tricks and unique small (read: SMALL) plot twists to create small breaks to make people interested in it. The entire "mystery" of it after all. To prove that this is a gimmick and hardly anything important, just ask yourself, can you replace 90% of all the abilities in this series with guns and classic fighting abilities and leave it there? Can you? Actually, you can. If you didn't notice, you can functionally replace 'abilities' and do some shifting and you could probably get the same story - my point is, their abilities are inconsequential to the stories.
Abilities are rare my friends - does that matter to the story? God no, it was mentioned once and we were all thrown in ability fever.
Ok well there are a lot of gimmicky shows that are cool; 1) those are almost ALL comedy, 2) those have an actual seinen psychological plot to back them up.
I know BSD readers don't have brain cells (including me) so let's talk about the most brain cell inducing series made: Liar Game. And then let's use Tomodachi Game.
Liar Game is considered a masterpiece, Tomodachi Game is a meme. They have functionally the same genre, they have functionally the same premise, they even have functionally the same character archetypes honestly. Why is Tomodachi Game a meme? Because it has nothing worthwhile to say. Liar Game is gold because it considers what is means to be a good person USING the gimmicks they have to create a point. Tomodachi Game does shit about that, but I love the genre so 5* anyway. Tomodachi game is the survival game for normies genre type on every stereotype possible, it doesn't really do anything - say anything about human relationships, Tomodachi Game has terrible takes on what people mean to each other and just does things for shock value, what am I supposed to say? Don't trust anyone??? What a shit message.
How does that translate to BSD? Abilities just EXIST. Like anything interesting about abilities are locked behind the light novels, and even then the most we got on anything is from Chuya who is possibly the worst character to do this analysis on because he's a fucking exception.
THAT'S RIGHT.
Chuya is an exception as is Verlaine.
Ohh right, I forgot that they had gods sealed in them? Do we investigate these gods? No. If the readers have to live off crumbs for when this author decides to write a novel once every 2000 year years this author sucks. I'm sorry, Asagiri, even if you flood your twitter account with writing tips you are shit at writing and pacing and power dynamics and character dynamics.
And honestly, all that's fine because this is a seinen and seinen has this tendency to bounce around and force readers to figure things out - Oh right... THIS WASN'T WRITTEN LIKE A SEINEN BUT A SHOUNEN.
Basically, this series took the worst of both demographics, pushed them together and prayed to Dostoevsky's adorable homicidal tendencies that it will work, and like Dostoevsky's homicidal tendencies, decided to shoot you in the face whilst laughing.
Now I've actually mentioned this before, but the issue with gimmicks is that when you do something to this extent where your entire series is just a huge uno reverse... you suffer from the fact that you now need more gimmicks to resolve your previous gimmicks.
Which is something again, only comedy series do.
BSD also has an issue where as Kawase from Hashihime once said to Tamamori, "Too shallow... Really, too shallow". This is a series about books I expect there to be some relevant information on the themes from those books not some blanket recovery sentence that they share the same name and are therefore related. I argued with someone about this because they think just using character names counts as being related, that's is an offense against these works if you are not using them to their full potential, everything about them has to be inherently related to the theme of the book I don't care how hard that is, you don't drag masterpieces in and then leave it in the hands of ducking Chuya Nakahara to blemish with his sordid words.
Almost any series that uses these books will try to include some aspect of them. This series BLATANTLY does not... Honestly... it really doesn't. Dostoevsky is NOT a representation of ANYTHING crime and punishment discusses at all... NEITHER IS DAZAI FOR THE MATTER.
I love this series, and I hate this series. I will continue to read this series in hopes the author actually does something ingenious that fixes everything even if I can't see it. But so far, this series has done nothing but drag the audience through the dumbest arc I have ever seen where everything is determined by gimmicks rather than an overarching purpose. The so-called paranoid Dostoevsky is currently facing the soloist Atsushi, is that not completely ironic?
Now before anyone in the comments starts cancelling me, yes I am a hypocrite, yes I do suck, yes I hate Chuya, yes I am biased against him, yes I love Dostoevsky, yes I love Dostoevsky. My personality is horrible, I am a horrible person, and you all scare me... Sadly no, I am not a furry. BSD fandom is so mean...
ok I'm tired rn... I just got sunday from HSR so my brain is dead he is SO cute...
I need more homicidal men to simp on lolol
Honestly I don't see any main goal in this story like what is the direction of story? They do have Fyodor as the main villain who manipulate everyone but what's his reason to do so? Other stories has specific goal like defeating the demon king, the MC want to revenge, or etc.
Dostoevsky actually isn't the main villain.
Author said he wanted to write something else after it...
he doesn't have any character so far, he's just there...
he doesn't have any purpose other than to be (づ￣ ³￣)づ
and all he does is cause trouble.
yeah...
(he probably will get some backstory... AFTER 200 MILLION YEARS)
I read the first two paragraphs and then scrolled down ARE YOU OK
no.
I was on board and then u tossed me off with that chuuya slander. Also Oda was a very important character in dazais life, he didn't wanna force dazai into anything, therefore he phrased his suggestion the way he did, but dazai wanted to do as his friend suggested. And saying it like he did it on a whim isnt true at all. Dazai was extremely depressed after odasakus death, and fs didn't proceed with his change as soon as he died. The only thing that happened fast was him leaving the port mafia, his change came only after he was able to get himself back up, and had nothing else to do, and no, this isnt that uncanny for a human being to feel. Dazai plays a big role in the story, ffs, beast dazai literally knew about the other bsd universes, you can't deny the screentime he deserves. But, I do agree that it's too much sometimes. But the reason is even more simple; Dazais character is also a huge fanservice. 90% of bsd fans if not more started watching and stayed for Dazai, that's why he's shoved up our throats so often, but I'd argue that an annoying suicidal man's story is better fanservice than women bouncing their melons and showing us their choice for today's underwear.
I think I misconveyed what I'm trying to complain about. I'm not complaining that Odasaku was too important, nor am I saying that they shouldn't do it, I'm saying the actual writing was so poor that it turned it bullshit. Which is why I got desperate and listed ways they could actually just avoid the entire issue of pacing.
As you said, Odasaku is a big part of his life, but that really only extended to the PM where he picked himself up and then did some. But we don't get that level of introspection at all. We get one conversation a few descriptions, it's very flat honestly. It's limited. I get really upset with Chuya, because he got a lot of material for a character whose lore is more interesting than the person himself. But Dazai doesn't get enough on his character (which sounds really weird, but it's more like resource management than it is sheer volume). They focus so much on useless parts to him... they don't give anything useful... they just do things to suit their gimmicks.
It's also fairly cheap to force everything onto Odasaku because Dazai turns into a cave that echoes him, but it's not terrible. It's just kind of lazy honestly, which was what I was saying when I said that Dazai was limited as a character because the author refuses to do anything with him. It would be more interesting if we saw more into the time between PM and ADA and it would be more interesting if Dazai actually had to confront himself on what he was doing, rather than do the Odasaku route. No, this man just... seemingly accepts it. Yes he doesn't EXACTLY do that but the PACING makes it so that it reads AND feels like that.
I was expecting him to have an entire upheaval of him questioning himself the entire time but we didn't get that at all. This isn't at ALL a psychological manga if the author seriously uses the Odasaku route for Dazai because it's... it's very basic honestly. It's not... i don't know why people think it's so insightful or deep, but it really isn't. It's a fairly common tactic in manga... It doesn't make Dazai's character bad, it's just you could do so much more because of it but Odasaku limits it.
but it's not inherently bad because of Odasaku, you still NEED Odasaku as you said, he is still a big part of Dazai's life. It's just the manner at which they presented it. The main issue I was arguing for was that for a character development period that usually would itself span an arc, there was nothing. There is nothing. I never once said this series' plot was stupid or bland or improper, but that the style it did so was bad. I expected a lot more from Dazai than just, Odasaku dies, I get depressed, and then from Odasaku, I find new purpose. It's... so simple it doesn't seem to suit someone like Dazai who imo should have had layers upon layers of lies he either fed to others or himself. I was expecting something like 10x more complicated than what Tamamori in Hashihime of the Old Book Town had to face, but no, I got... literally Todoroki level character development. Dazai has ONE layer to him so far. It's frustrating...
Yes he is smart, yes I do think he should be fast when it comes to realising these things, but... his past feels empty. It's one layer of depressing backstory come on...
(I just realised I wrote Odasaku the entire time... I-)
lowkey I read allat and thank you man i actually thought i was brain dead cause i could not understand what the hell was going in recent chapters
Realness.
My biggest problem with your paragraph is one thing. Chūya is not lines of code, he canonically is human they threw a curveball in the epilogue where we find out that he is the original and not a clone. Also I'm pretty sure Chūya is the only one with a God sealed inside him, Verlaine isn't human and his ability is artificially created.
Just needed to correct that. Otherwise I agree with you.
No I completely agree this is just lazy writing at this point. I feel like a lot of times this story tells us things that make zero sense but put it in a smart way to gaslight us into thinking it's genius too ╮(￣▽￣)╭ when thinking about it for more than 10 seconds it's really not all that and arguably even stupid. Imo author made a great cast, but he doesn't really know how to take it from there which causes a mess, like you said. Also chuuya really isn't that bad of a character. I may be a glazer but come on. Chuuya isn't stupid, sure, he's impulsive at times, but certainly not stupid. And he's actually very calm as a person, sadly, his life doesn't exactly allow him be that person. But it's also not rare to see that part of him. Its only rare in the anime, since 90% of his scenes in the show were with dazai, which he greatly despises, due to their past and the fact Dazai just got up and left, when he was his partner, just left without a word, and a big part of Chuuyas character is hating betrayals. Chuuya is loyal, and would do anything for those who helped him, even if they ended up betraying him, he doesn't become ungrateful. Sure his attitude would change, but whose wouldn't? if someone had betrayed them? And this isnt even the tip of the iceberg about his character. Point is, chuuya isn't a bad character. Not talking only about his story, but his character overall. You can go ahead and say he isn't interesting, sure, that's subjective, go ahead you can have your opinion. But putting him as some bad character who got a good story just isn't it, when his character is so complex you have to read two lightnovels to truly understand him, and even then you may not completely understand him. Anyways I hope to one day see this amount of focus on Dazais character too so we could truly understand him
... I don't see how that makes him anymore or less interesting as a character but thank you (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ (bro I know 0 about Chuya because of how fast I skimmed his light novel lmao (I really really do not like him))
if I could edit it to fix it I would but... no editing for comments
(Honestly Chuya is a good gateway to abilities since as you said Verlaine etc etc have artificial abilities, but I'm more mad they didn't use it to expand on abilities all that much... (⊙…⊙ ))
BSD writing gives me genuine nightmares ngl.
When I say a character is boring, it's more so... I have seen this multiple times already. When I realised there were this many light novels about him, I thought there would be something more to him? His entire, I am not human but below human thing is... well it's not 'bad' it's just really... ╮(￣▽￣)╭ that's what it is, it's ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Maybe I'm just oversaturated with anime to the point that everything is repetitive...
Also it might just be me, but whenever Chuya got really mad at Dazai it always felt... weird. Like, as you said he's not JUST mad. He can be really rational sometimes. He has every right to be mad, but it just seemed cheap to me when he was shown to get stupidly mad at Dazai because that's just... idk it just doesn't make sense to me, because if he truly valued his loyalty thingy and he was really a calm person then shouldn't his hate be just as cold? But it isn't? It just felt really cheap to me.
though that might just be bad writing, like I would have tried to show exactly how Dazai's precise words affected Chuya, but they were all just stupid jabs for the sake of humour, when it really shouldn't be a funny matter.
Well chuuya getting silly angry at Dazai and not serious anger is just their usual bickering. But in the first interaction we saw of them in the dungeon Chuuya was really mad. Stone cold towards Dazai. The anime did a shit job of showing it, in general they do a shit job of showing Chuuyas emotions properly. The manga did much better job at it, Chuuya seemed like he was about to rip Dazai to shreds in the manga. But there's a difference between the hatred Chuuya holds for Dazai, than other hatreds. That hatred is a mix of emotions that took the form of hatred. They are essentially all the grievances Chuuya has with Dazai. And now about the bickering and chuuya getting silly angry at Dazai is mostly because Dazai doesn't exactly consider his relationship with Chuuya to have ended. Explains why he still acts with Chuuya the same way he did when they were younger, and why Dazai still refers to Chuuya as 'partner'. In that reunion we can also see how Chuuya warmed up a little to Dazai again, why? Honestly idk.
Sorry for yapping so much I just love talking about Chuuyas emotions since they are so neglected and overlooked all the time
Bro wrote a whole ass novel
Also my congratulations on Sunday ✝
I actually really liked her throughout the story.
People are too obsessed with characters being smart or realistic or "not stupid". The entire plot from beginning to end, if you haven't notice, is literally calling out people for thinking too much and being too dishonest. Several times throughout the story it's been proven that there are ways to win the game if we work together are stop being disgusting but people don't want to do that. Nao is the epitome of what people should be. That is, if everyone was like Nao, then this world would be a much better place (I honestly argue against that but meh).
However, Akiyama tells Nao that her innocence and honesty isn't a good thing, yes he does say that, but if you read what he said, he didn't say Nao is wrong, but that people are wrong and people are trash and people are dishonest and in this reality you cannot be that honest or innocent. People are bad, and you can't stick a warm face to someone's excrement and expect anything good to come to it. You need to suspect people, not because you are wrong, but because they are hide things.
If we were to talk about people, we SHOULD be like Nao. Do you know why Akiyama likes Nao? It's not just because she's like his mum, it's because she is a good person and Akiyama understands that people like Nao are rare. Nao is an oddity in a world where everyone is so selfish that no one cares about anyone else but themselves. Nao is someone anyone and everyone should want as a friend because she is the one person who will never hurt you will never betray you and will never reject you. She will always accept you for everything you do and that is why Akiyama sticks by her. Because, of everyone in this story, he knows the best how precious people like that can be. He knows that people like that are rare and he knows that he might never meet someone he can trust this much.
And this isn't even trust anymore, he implicitly knows that even if they were to become enemies, she would never do anything back to him.
So he never really tries to make her a bad person. He never tells her to cheat or steal or become selfish. Rather he tells her that she needs to have awareness that people are not like her in perhaps some of the most vague ways possible. She has to have some defensive measure because the world is bad and she can't live in a world like this if she continues.
Somewhere at some point, we've decided people like this are stupid and annoying. This isn't stupidity. It's innocence, a lack of greed, selfless, righteousness, everything we need in a person and we call them stupid because we can't think beyond anything but practicality.
Nao is good because she doesn't consider practicality, she thinks what she should do as a person. She's not realistic, because she's a moralist. She puts her ethics above everything else and it's not realistic, but it's the right thing to do. I can't hate a character for literally being a good person and I don't understand why people can too.
She does make mistakes. She isn't practical. Her innocence leads her to decisions that get her cheated. She causes trouble, she ropes in other people - these are all valid criticisms of her, but they don't stem from her being a good person, but from the world being a bad place.
I agree that a person who is good, but still causes suffering to others is not absolved of all guilt, but I also believe that such people only cause suffering to others because of everyone around them. Being a good person is a crime in a world where most people are bad. That's a big thing in this manga, and if you think this manga is saying that the world should be like this, the entirety of watching liar game competitor fail over and over again to get the best results for everyone, is just proof that's not what they meant.
I don't really know when characters like Nao became annoying and seeing them wise up is considered a good thing, but honestly, if you ask me, I really like these characters as they are. Even if they don't have a lot of agency because it's like a reminder that we still recognise what a good person is. It's a reminder that I want someone like this in my life, even if I have to babysit them, because it's safe around them.
Which seems to be something people don't realise now.
Look you guys can like and dislike whoever you want, I just think it really says something if you are saying you dislike Nao because she is annoying. You are literally saying the epitome of what people should be is annoying. Think about that. You are saying, what people should aim to be is annoying because they are too much of a good person.
what is this world.
good people are bad.
bad people are good.
Damn... I like you
I thought the first page's guy was Taeha and got so confused lmao help what are we going to do when they're in the same room?
"Hello Taeha."
"Hello not-Taeha"
Are they going to label them 1 and 2 or something
Look for the mole ha ha ha
yeah the one on their ass?
ok so:
dad is tae ha 0.0
the brother is tae ha 2.0
tae ha tae ha is tae ha 1.0
because I cannot tell them apart wtf
by the end of this there's going to be a tae ha 3.0 istg
I just really like the title. Straight to the point: "I am the Most Powerful Transcendent Being"
Not even a world/universe limit, guy is just the best hands down.
who had a girlfriend in grade 10 when he was in grade 12
he is in university, his girlfriend is in grade 11
our entire class called him a pedo because he was 18 and she was 16 lmao
(⊙…⊙ ) this entire series reminds me of him
Hello, this is a link for the novel, but it's only in korean. You can only use a translate extension for now. I might try and see if chatgpt can do it for me too.
If I find the will inside me to copy paste into a google doc and chatgpt it, I will and repost again, but that might take uh a lot of time. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ and i have work in ummm thirty minutes (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
https://booktoki467.com/novel/3887646?stx=0과+1
Also if it doesn't work put this link in too: https://booktoki331.com/novel/6015?stx=%EB%B0%B1%EC%9E%91%EA%B0%80
Thanks